5 Things That Should be Canon (Star Trek)
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Star Trek has a lot of books about Star Trek. And games about Star Trek. But Star Trek tends to ignore these Star Treks in favour of telling its own Star Trek. Make sense?
This is a video where I list the top 5 things that I feel have earned their place in Star Trek canon and deserve to be treated as such moving forwards.
I tried to go for a myriad of sources and justifications based on their impact to continuity from the New Frontier books to Star Trek Online.
This is my opinion and so on... I've not read/played/experienced/inhaled/digested or danced on everything Star Trek in the universe so can only speak to what I've experienced. :)
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As I watched this I just found out that René Auberjonois has passed away. Odo has returned to the great link.
i have said this before, and will say again... and again... and again.
Fuck. Cancer.
Darn it, first Nog now Odo.
Odo was a character I quite liked in a series I loathed. Rene Auberjonois was a wonderful actor and by all accounts a pretty good person. He will be missed.
I saw that too, regarding Rene Auberjonois. What a big loss in the Star Trek community and also the loss of great actor! I
What?!
Would Rikers captains chair be backwards so he can step over it
DirtyFishFingers I’m sure he installs a bench to put one leg up on.
Velociraptor wonders: How does Riker sit on the toilet?
@@Toybinging Some people as they age get grab handles and bars installed into the walls to hold on to and balance themselves, so I imagine Riker would have a bar placed to the side which he can stick one leg up on while he poops
Riker doesn't need a chair. Because they keep pulling the Captain chair out for Riker, but he doesn't sit down. Not even when Picard gives him a well intentioned kick in the rear end.
@@oddish4352 New Star Trek. Fans have waited nearly 20 years to see RIker in command of The Titan. Instead we get old tired Riker in command of washing dishes in Kirks old cabin.
Worf has lost the love of his life twice, It would be cool if he got a happy ending. Also Captain worf would be beast
Wasn’t he the captain of the Defiant for a while?
@@joshuahadams No, he was not. He commanded it but that was no different than when LaForge, Data, Deanna Troi, Dr Crusher Commanded the enterprise here and there.
@@ramrod924 There's a marked difference here. When LaForge, Data, Troi or Crusher commanded the Enterprise the CO and XO were still on board and thus took interim command as Officer of the Watch. When Worf commanded the Defiant during the Battle of Sector 001 Sisko and Kira were not on board. Worf, as acting captain with all the rights and privileges that title entails, as per naval tradition, would've been addressed as captain by the crew during those two weeks.
I wish they would do some patching up with Alexander. I think it is one of Worf’s few faults is that honestly he wasn’t a good father. I always felt this played into the “absentee black father” trope, when the writers were trying to distance the Klingons from that as much as possible since his introduction in TNG in the new makeup.
We’d seen he grown to accept Alexander with his quirks in DS9, but I’d like to see a moment where he shows how much he truly adores his son and apologizes for how things happened.
After botching the mission to rescue the cardassian defector he was told he would never be a captain.
Five things to add to cannon:
- Powder
- Wad
- Ball
- Fuse
- Lanyard
- Alex Kurtzman
- Dukat
The USS Verity got re-labelled as NCC-97007 in the collected paperback, incidentally.
Beautiful.
Take my like amd add it to that fucking cannon
See I just want the Slipstream drive in so that we can bring back Nicole de Boer as CAPTAIN Ezri Dax since she's one of the youngest remaining legacy cast members, easy to anchor a series around, and a character that didn't get enough screentime to get fully fleshed out.
Did Ezri Dax host after Jadzia?
@@msamour Yes. Jadzia died violently and needed a Trill host ASAP. Ezri was not ready to be a host but just sort of fell into being one. The show ended before she became a real Dax, she was still a cute-pie confused damsel Dax in transition to being a full-blown Ezri Dax in more than just name. Her full development just ran out of time... she went from being a baby Dax and ended as a child Dax. D^mn shame, I loved Ezri Dax and almost forgave the show for killing off Jadzia... almost.
@@That80sGuy1972 I'm not there yet. I am at the beginning of season 6. I haven't seen the death of Jadzia yet. Heck, I haven't even seen the wedding yet. Looking forward to it.
@@msamour Oh... sorry for throwing some spoilers at you. I didn't know you were still watching.
@@That80sGuy1972 Oh no worries! It doesn't bother me anymore. In 1998, When I was in the Navy, I was in the mess watching 7 and a guy came ans ruined the ending on purpose. I was upset. I promised myself after that not to attach importance in which order I receive information. I started looking at life and time in a non linear way. It takes some getting used to. Think of that movie with the aliens that she knows everything that happens because she's seen it before type thing. Thanks for your consideration.
Trip lives! He didn't die in the ENT finale. That was a cover up.
Was he recruited as a temporal agent? *raised eyebrow*
I want the whole episode to not be canon.
Read a novel that had him working for Section 31.
@@tachyontee3877 so he went to the darkside, then?
Tachyon Tee I had a goldfish die when I was a kid. I hear it too went to section 31. Everything is section 31. It’s stupid.
what I would like to see made canon? Captain Nog and the USS Chimera
You should play Star Trek Online, then. He's in there.
Unfortunately I'm sure you're aware Aaron Eisenberg passed this year.
@@mikey2363 it's made canon, not a movie... that means they can refer to it on other series :)
Moribax oh absolutely I agree - sorry just thought you weren’t aware 🖖🏻 though you meant an actual physical programme
Moribax it’s not canon. If it isn’t on tv or a movie it’s not canon.
Headcanon always includes "the good that men do." It gives proper closure to Enterprise, shows what it could have been, and ties it into TOS continuity.
I would love to see the events of the DS:9 novel Unity canonized, officially bringing back Sisko and letting us see how the Gamma Quandrant is adjusting to the Founders no longer being complete and total despots following Odo's return to the Great Link and the location of more of the 100. We also would get to see more on the details of Bajor's official induction into Federation membership.
I'd love to see a return to the Enterprise era, with an adaptation of the Romulan War and Rise of the Federation book series.
TRIP LIVES! I love the Enterprise books!
it's a genuine shame Enterprise didn't make it to season 5 to give us that. It would've been magnificent.
InfernosReaper It should've been atleast six seasons, considering they wasted so much time on the temporal cold war bullshit
Absolutely! Especially as at the time it would be straightforward war movie, as it was before Federation with way more militarized Earth.
I would really like to see a whole new series centered on the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-B) and her crew and set in the early 2300s made canon.
I'd love it but even more I'd love the story of the C. Yes, we all know how and when it would end but still...
i would second that motion.
I would like to see a temporal accident where discovery never existed.
@@ericb4127 It's be easy to write. "Captain, this temporal anomalymajig is going to destroy Earth. We can stop it, but we'll have to fly Discovery right into it."
"So it will destroy us?"
"It's worse captain. Due to *insert gobbledegook about spore drive and tachyon mumbo-jumbo here*, when we're done, we may never even have existed at all."
Discovery make it pretty much possible, to make prequel series
The Odyssey Class is such a beautiful design and fits the post TNG era when ships took on a more sleek and slightly more aggressive look perfectly.
It really deserves a place in alpha canon.
I should pull mine out of dry dock and give it a modern refit.
Indeed the Class shows all the lessons that were learned during the Dominion War. Starfleet finally learned it needed a Battleship
Titan wishes granted by Lower Decks of all things. The jazz being used for his captain's orders. Oh god, the jazz indeed. I actually really liked ST:LD as a lens on Trek issues and deep cuts.
When i see it correctly the novel "A Stitch In Time" was even written by Andrew J. Robinson the actor who actually played Elim Garak on Deep Space Nine.
Some of the Enterprise novelization should also become canon. Specifically the fate of Trip Tucker. Since his death happened in a holodeck recreation it was revealed that they actually faked his death so he could become a Romulan spy. His death in the series finale was so un-needed and stupid it left a bad taste in mouths of all the fans.
I always saw captain ezri dax as a stretch, as we never really saw anything about her that had command potential.
IIRC, she was fourth in command and the first three all died in rapid succession in a fight with the borg, so it was a case of her being the highest ranked person alive. She did well enough at it, though, and Starfleet was seriously short of competent people enough, that it stuck after the ship got back to a starbase.
@@thomasjoychild4962 It's a two year old comment, but I should have said, 'command ambition' not 'command potential'. Ezri is a dax afterall.
I think you're the only person that uses the word decimate correctly. Thankyou, you wouldn't believe how much joy that brought me
MineKynoMine
I’m going to decimate you for that comment! Will a hand do? 😉
@@keirfarnum6811 how much does a hand even weigh?
About .4kg
MineKynoMine The accepted meaning of decimate has changed to its common usage today. It no longer refers to 10% just as sinister (for example) has a completely different meaning to its origins.
@@SpikeMoby so has the word literally but that doesn't stop people being wrong
"We'll probably never get to see Captain Riker in action".......
Lower Decks: “It’s the Titan!” _TNG Theme blasts_
“Ohhhhh the jazzzz”
@@makomadns4 We're talking about this later.
What about things that *shouldn't* be canon? _glances at voyager's Tuvix and warp 10 in general_
TNG's sub rosa.
How can I like this comment more? Ah! Comment! Yes. Those were awful
But I liked Tuvix!
All of Nemesis should be thrown out. It is so stupid, start to finish.
Star trek 5, kirk finally became a god of idiots.
We just gonna brush over the fact that my girl Dax became a FREAKING CAPTAIN?!?!
Yeah she's great. Love how she interacts with Picard on even footing.
Having a famous a symbiote with lifetimes of experience makes her one of the most experienced people in Starfleet.
I remember hearing Threshold was de-canonised like 20 years ago. I think by Rick Berman said they don't consider it canon.
I think it's more it's something they no longer want to talk about. With a healthy dose of "I must have been really really stoned the day they presented this one to me?"
If they can "de-canonize" things then I vote for TNG Genesis, all of Neelix, and the entire Shatnerverse, lol.
@@pwnmeisterage Good luck with that. Too many story threads would come apart in other Trek stories if you suddenly decanonized Shatner. I think the idea in the video intended on a consensus of reasonable canonization and not just a bunch of personal axes being grinded in the comments section.
The entire TOS Animated Series.
Agreed, wish we could have seen Uhura take command in TOS not just the Animated series
YES!!!! 1 billion percent behind this xD
Especially the three armed and legged navigator and the feline woman, they were so cool
I thought CBS already considered the animated series canon.
@@seanmcgrath3826 ; You mean Arex and M'ress.
The first book in the Titan series is Taking Wing. It's the book that outlines the formation of the Titan's crew mentioned in this video and outlays that first mission to Romulus, which is absolutely a fascinating read. Went on a camping trip just to read it. Was worth it, sitting by a lake reading about Riker, Troi, Tuvok and the Titan helping Romulus right after the events of Shinzon. :)
It's my head-cannon that Picard lied about his origins. He's English, not French.
Maybe England invaded France in WW III, and their influence took hold before the peace brought about by Vulcan first contact.
@Greggles-that has always bugged me too, mind you Patrick Stewart is a phenomenal actor but I was puzzled by his French heritage. But what bugs me even more is when someone decided that Sean Connery would be perfect for the part of a Spaniard (possibly Portuguese?) in Highlander.
Universal Translator. his accent is super-imposed by his com badge.
@@sarreqteryx Universal translator is utter bullshit and bad writing and you know it, or else Klingon would sound like English and first encounters with powerful but not omniscient space entities would be garbled nonsense in dialects we cannot begin to comprehend.
@@gregbrockway4452 he was Eqyptian pretending to be a Spaniard
Id love a new movie about Klingons fighting tribbles.
_flashbacks to Trials And Tribble-ations scene where Odo makes fun of Worf's little history lesson_
...which reminds me, RIP René :(
And the moment they realize they can eat them...
@@ScientistCat - "Do they still sing songs about "The Great Tribble Hunt?"
@@MrMephiston Used to do LARP fandom in a Klingon group back in the 90s. We used to run our own cons and events. I was famous for my tribble dishes for the potluck.
Lol!
The Dark Mirror version of the Mirror Universe. Also Dolphin officers :D
The TOS book Dreadnaught.
The TOS Book Koybaishi Maru
The FASA ship info esp Maulers
Dolphin officers?
I thought that ST: Into Darkness lifted one of the key plots of Dreadnought, power hungry admiral builds super starship to take over. That might be the closest we get to an adaptation.
I have not read that many Star Trek Books, but I thought Dark MIrror was really good.
I would love having Calhoun and the Titan being canonized, and my other choice would be Kirk surviving from Generations per the books that Shatner wrote
One of my fave characters from books and his pilot
Titan IS canon thanks to Lower Decks now.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 yup, loving season 2 so far! Let's see if the Excalibur makes a cameo or mention
Id love to see the Aventine and Ezri captaining it...
Ditto.
I’d love to see the typhon pact appear on Picard
The Borg have an interesting story start. An entire life race of cyborgs who operate on a hive mind for the better of the collective. But by the time of Voyager and the TNG movies they had gone off the rail as if someone looked at their species bible and said, "Meh, I can do better".
I've almost typed up a wall of text to show my argument for why they don't work beyond the TNG seasons and deleted it twice. Because I believe that youtube is not the place to be posting that type of stuff. Better to leave that for Reddit.
The Borg were utterly ruined when First Contact added in the Borg Queen. Voyager turned them into a joke.
Destiny is the best borg story and what I consider to be canon in my mind. What an amazing and epic story, and it actually gives a "scarier when you don't know about them" type enemy a satisfying and interesting origin!
@@Gunnar001 I agree wholeheartedly. Also, Voyager overused them and ruined their mystique.
Find a copy of the TNG book Vendeta for an interesting take on Borg early years and why they 'can't' be beaten.
Peter David has always been my favorite Star Trek Novel writer. He wrote from a point of view that could almost been seen as 'Fan Fiction', but it often made sense (like Trelane being the child of "Q", or the Borg and the 'Doomsday Machine' being connected).
I for one would love to see an entire series built around the crew of the Excalibur; it would certainly be more entertaining than the vast majority of Star Trek: Discovery.
I've always wondered why the very obvious connection betweent Trelane and the Q continuum was never explored.
Ive read all those books. Peter David is my favorite Trek and sci-fi writer. He wrote Q really well. Q-Squared was my favorite Q story.
I met him a few years ago
@Cthu Lutech How about an even more interesting premise? Gary Mitchell and Elizabeth Dehner from "Where No Man Has Gone Before" don't remain dead. They revive after the Enterprise leaves, keep evolving and eventually become the progenitors of the Q Continuum.
Someone who actually used the word decimation correctly! Love yer vids man, keep em coming.
These are all things I would also like to see as well, I also think though there should be more information of civilizations such as the Breen and the Tholians as both are considered to be two of the larger major powers in their respective sections of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants; not a superpower like the Federation but still on par with the Klingons and Cardassians but without the same devastation faced in the Dominion War.
Considering how often The Breen get mentioned, absolutely.
Weyoun muddied the waters of clarity with his comments about the Breen and their home planet environmental conditions/love of cold. Made me want to know a lot more about them.
The Tholians are the uh...crab like creatures who need heat? Archernate tortured one in "in a mirror darkly"
(And he killed a Gorn)
@@killwalker ; To be more specific, The Tholians are crystalline spider-like aliens who can only survive without environmental suits in Venus like atmospheres. They are also seen in The Original Series as well not just Enterprise.
@@occultatumquaestio5226 ive tried many times to watch TOS. I get thru a couple episodes and just wanna die. I just cant do it. I grew up on TOS movies and TNG/DS9.
TOS was too much 60s camp for me. I was born in 80.
Ive seen most of the classicly popular episodes but i must have not seen the one with Tholians.
Thx
@@killwalker ; Well, here is a Fun Fact: The 23rd Century Constitution Class Federation ship that is seen in the 2 part mirror universe episodes in Season 4 of ENT is the same ship as the one in the TOS episode you haven't seen with the Tholians. (U.S.S. Defiant NCC-17##).
The Tholians also have a strong interest in Time travel and alternate universes.
@@occultatumquaestio5226 very cool
There was this one novel i read a long time ago that explains Calhoun's first encounter with Star Fleet. Specifically with Captain Picard while he was commanding the Stargazer. On the shuttle ride to the ship(which Picard insisted on as opposed to the transporter as Picard wanted Calhoun to see the Stargazer from the outside first) Calhoun commented on how large the Stargazer looked. Picard just kinda shrugged that off telling him that his vessel was mid-sized compared to other ships. I guess Calhoun could not have conceived at the time that he would end up commanding a good deal larger vessel himself and, after said ships destruction, commanding an even larger vessel after that.
Stone and Anvil, good stuff. It also mentions he thought Stargazer was a bit of a wussy name :P He'd prefer to name a vessel something like Killship.
Star Trek Hidden Frontier and New Voyages are still my favorite fan fiction series wish they were canon!
I loved hidden frontier and her sequels. I haven't seen New Voyages
I could not agree with you more, Peter David is quite possibly the best author in the Star Trek universe since Roddenberry. His New Frontiers books deserve to be made canon.
I think the New Frontier book series was the best thing to come out of Star Trek in the last twenty years. CBS/Paramount were idiots for not optioning it from Peter David for a Star Trek series following Voyager. They should have teamed Peter David with a good producer and had them do a New Frontier series. The only problem might have been getting the actors who played the characters on board.
I would like to see the star trek engineering corp series made cannon
I would so enjoy internet Nazis like Dave Cullen, who never *got* Star Trek to begin with, completely melting down over a very Jewish captain speaking Yiddish on the bridge.
The. Corps is cannon. But that particular series would be cool. With lycia naff back. And the 911 axe tribute.
@@mandelharvey3429 it's not canon, only live action TV and movies are canon. Everything else is "beta" material.
@@RoonMian lycia naff portrayed ensign Sonya Gomez on tng and Starfleet corps of engineers did work on ds9. The character and the corps are cannon.
Maybe they could bring back the makes and make them the federation marines
Finally someone who understands the actual meaning of decimation over the modernized meaning of complete and utter destruction.
glad someone else got a slight tingle ,after all its all in the word if you know your latin!
language evolves
@Brett Hazelton It most assuredly is evolution. Why do you assume deci always meant tenth? It probably evolved from a previous word. Perhaps even one that meant something else entirely. And I guarantee there are words that you've used today, that you didn't give a second thought, but only are used how you used them because they gained new meaning through inadequate explaination, shifting use, or shifting spelling and pronunciation.
Star evolved from the word for the planet Venus, which at the time was believed to be a star, and over time, all stars got labeled with the precursor for the modern word for star, because people misunderstood that it was intended to refer to only one. Which is comparable to what has happened here. Decimation meant a horrifying 10% casualty rate, the conveyance of that horror without context has led over time to it just meaning a generalized mass death rate.
To argue the modern use of the word decimation is incorrect because it has deci in the name, is about as pointless as saying we aren't typing English because we can't understand English from centuries ago. Language evolves, and sometimes this is, yes, through ignorance or misunderstanding, but that doesn't make it any less valid. Language is a social construct, and like all social constructs, if it functions (in this case the people you are talking to understand what you are saying) then there is no such thing as right or wrong. Cuz it is purely utilitarian, and does not care how pretentious you get with it
Exactly...if you had to pick between the two, you want your army to be DECIMATED instead of ANNHILATED.
*Circuit breakers* on all consoles and working seat belts with quick release.
Life support systems that don't make the air unbreathable as soon as they lose power.
Separate bridge and internal security and away team crew so your weapons officer doesn't have to leave his post in the middle of battle.
Combat uniforms that have camoflauge (adaptive) instead of primary colours, are practical (pockets?) and provide some protection [padding for stunts].
Rifles that don't break when you smack someone with them - they should be tough enough to club with, advanced materials and all that.
Might be hard to build circuit breakers into plasma lines. They use highly energized plasma as their power source for pretty much everything.
Seat belts WERE shown on Enterprise E in a deleted scene from the end of Nemesis, but unfortunately it was deleted and seat belts probably won't be seen on Picard. Then again, would you want to be buckled in to a seat in front of a console that is likely to explode? Might be worse than letting it blast you out of the chair. :p
Life support going down has never made air unbreathable immediately, unless there was gas or something else toxic leaking and not getting sucked out by the system. They frequently have life support do down and have hours to go before risk of death.
@@brch2 Yeah, they even intentionally shut down life support on DS9 in one episode ("Civil Defense") to deal with another problem.
I wholeheartedly agree! This gave me many things to look into; as much of what you bring up are things that I've thought about and find interesting. Namely; what happened to Cardassia after DS9, what happened in Elum"s past (my favorite character in Trek), exploring the complex society of Romulus and the aftermath of Unification AND the continuted career of Captain Willian Riker and his first officer Tuvok. Thank you so much :)
I love that book about Garak, you didn't mention, the actor who played Garak actually write that book from his own acting notes and backstory he developed! He got it approved and they published the book. so I agree, it should be cannon, both because it was an excellent book and because it was written by the actor himself!
Calhoun was a fun character, I would also like the slipstream being added to basically all Federation ships.
Titan and Captain Riker never to be seen on the screen, then Lower Decks comes around :D
This video just made me want to play STO. Sounds like I need to get to know more things to fully appreciate the new Picard show. I have been having trouble tying new things for a while. Certifiably Ingame has done us all a solid with this video.
YES! I was hoping you would mention the Excaliber. I loved Peter David's books on the crew.
8:21 Since they've also established future starships capable of Warp 14, they could just re-factor the warp scale again.
Warp 10 was broken multiple times in ToS. Twice by the Enterprise and once by an Orion scout ship. Then by Paris on Voyager in a shuttle craft. But Tom started to change because of it. Yet no one on the ToS changed because of it.
@@huntjl88 And they didn't change either in All Good Things.
@@huntjl88 TOS uses the old warp scale, where warp 10 is 1000x lightspeed. TNG, Voyager, and DS9 use new warp scale where warp 9.9 is something like 6550x lightspeed and warp 10 is infinite. I hope they retcon the infinite velocity bullshit in the new Picard series.
@@tomastomasi975
they shoudl have just kept it as a logarithmic scale with no upper limit, where warp-1 is light speed, warp 2 is ten times light speed, warp-3 is 100 times light speed, warp-4 is 1000, warp-5 is 10,000, warp-6 is 100,000 and so on, it's an easy way to express huge numbers, without the need for long number words, hell an earlier episode could establish that the scale has been changed where picard may order a warp speed that would have been possible under the old scale, but not any more, so we get some quick and efficient exposition and move on.
@@tomastomasi975 The warp scale in TOS was # cubed. The warp scale in TNG was # to the 3.2 power.
There is a book series that explains the exact origins of the Borg, and they do a fantastic job of it. Should definitely be canon.
I'd prefer it if the origin of the borg always remained a mystery.
Spectre by William Shatner.
Please no...
@@zekehunter2473 I haven't read that one, I was referring to the Destiny series of books
I don’t know about it being canon, but I thought that explanation in the destiny book was a super elegant and smart way of describing the origins of the Borg.
How about the Q Continuum? Is there a book series explaining their origin? Would be an interesting topic to tackle.
I loved the Vesta class, when I first got into STO, it was the first fancy ship I got. The quantum field focus controller with it's super phaser beam was a lot of fun, at least until some of the T6 ships came out.
The music switch for Ryker is both appropriate and hilarious!
Imzadi would have made an amazing canon story.
Loved that story
"If you ever loved me" screamed admiral riker.
...Troi didn't even hesitate!
In my mind it IS canon. I mean nothing has contradicted it so far, right?
@@RingoLoadagain Such is Peter David's skill. : )
Yeah I really liked the Calhoun series, thanks for adding it!
Omg AMAZING video litterally had goose bumps watchin, so much brilliant information. PLEASE do more like this one!! 🖖 👌👏
Great ideas. I didn't realize that the Titan is such a beautiful ship! I totally agree with your removal suggestion. Just seeing the pic made me cringe. Thanks! Good stuff as usual.
#6:
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She's practically canon already, considering the various easter eggs. Her history will have to be altered to match the current canon, but there's no reason she can't exist.
1. Me
2. Destiny
3. STO
4. Axanar
5. ???
5. Profit!
6. The return of Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko and the arrival of Commander Elias Vaughn to Deep Space 9
@@richmcgee434 I should call the FCA to add this to the rules of acquisition
Destiny for sure
@ValorJ Omega STFU
For me, the “Kirk Chronicles” by William Shatner were a fantastic continuation of the franchise after ST6 & Generations. I loved how they were interwoven with the continuing shows and films. I especially liked how it provided the opportunity for more interaction between the surviving members of the OS & TNG, DS9, and Voyager characters.
I just subscribed to your channel because you're the first person on youtube I've heard use "Decimation" in a sentence properly who wasn't talking about Roman history.
I would die happy to see Nicole deBoer return as Captain Ezri Dax in ST:Picard.
Changes I'd like: Romulan supernova? What Romulan supernova? If you have that then you have red matter and time travel - and that breaks too many things. Just cut the Kelvin films out completely. We've already done the Praxis exploding thing with the Klingons. We don't need a rerun.
With one exception: Putting things like the Yorktown base or O'Neil cylinders into Star Trek is long overdue.
I've also seen some speculation about the Cardassians joining the Federation. That might be fun.
I agree with you across the board. I would like to add the Da Vinci from the Corps of Engineers series.
Great list, I definitely agree. As others have said, I’d add SCE. (I loved that years later Sonya Gomez is still embarrassed but the memory of spilling her drink on Picard.) Also Ro Laren returning and becoming CO of DS9.
I would add the USS Premonition from Star Trek Armada. From the series it seem apparent that the Federation was still working on time travel.
Personally I really don't care much for the USS Premonition. If you're looking for more time travel though, I can't recommend Watching the Clock more. It's a book centered around Dulmur and Lucsly, the two operatives of the Department of Temporal Investigations seen in Trials and Tribble-ations. THe book expands on the afformentioned department, and ties up an awful lot of loose ends left by the time travel of Star Trek, neatly collecting them into one unified model.
You need to read the “Destiny” series. It deals with the Borg and their beginnings and final demise.
peter merz Love those books!
Destiny is one of the best star trek stories, canon or no.
peter merz it should be part of cannon as it encompasses “Enterprise “ series and the episode “the child” on STTNG. There were other connections but those 2 are key. Thank you.
Wasnr one of the first books dealing with the borg, picard and Kirk visited the borg original home planet before that
Agree with pretty much everything on this list. Honestly, anything that sets the stage for the events of STO would be really cool. I'm not very familiar with some of the novels you mentioned but they do sound good. I think the nods that STO is getting from the writing staff for the Picard comics is awesome and I think the reason they can get away with adding things outside of official canon to official canon is that STO is licensed under the Star Trek umbrella (just my opinion).
What is worth adding from Beta Cannon? Hmmm? I always thought Star Trek Online's story arc about the lost Dominion Fleet that the Prophets disappeared into the wormhole was particularly elegant. And made a ton of sense.
*I would love to see the Iconian story arc from 'Star Trek Online' become cannon, or even played out in an actual series. I thought it was great!*
There was a book after generations that had Kirk alive. The book itself "The Return" was good but i doubt it could be brought i to cannon...but it had a defiant class ship in it. Before the Dominion war showed them. It was called the USS Monitor and it did not need a cloak becuse it had a special armor that absorbed light and sensor beems...
The STO Enterprise F and crew. Mostly because, aside from Kirayoshi O'Brian, I think they're all new characters, and would love to see the Enterprise torch officially passed to a new generation the way it was from Kirk's Enterprise to Picard's. Plus I would love to see what little glimpses we've seen of the characters through in game missions or the story blogs get expanded on.
My first dive into the Star Trek universe were the novels, mostly the TNG/Titan relaunch, and it's what got me into the TV shows in the first place. It's nice to see a less-perfect Enterprise crew, Worf absolutely deserves to be first officer, and the Titan is just awesome. I wouldn't get mad to not see it on screen - try getting a bunch of non-humanoid aliens added into live-action TV - but they could at least mention it.
Since watching DS9 and understanding why the Aventine was included in Destiny, I'm also a fan of Captain Dax. It's great that Ezri finally got the chance that Jadzia arguably could have gotten on the show.
I did enjoy the Destiny series a lot (even though the novelverse is insanely complicated and I may have accidentally started with the final book), but I don't think you'd necessarily have to include those events - it simply alters a LOT of the story.
Lastly, please tell us that Voyager got a really big homecoming party, because that was definitely missing from the final episode.
I'd like to see Diane Duane's Rihannsu novels incorporated into the canon, unlikely as it may be.
This! Unfortunately, I can only give one thumbs up.
She is such a good writer
I would like to see Star Trek books as part of ST cannon and those same books as part of ST Online game.
I really like the novelisation exploration of the Breen. It's very clever in how it explains their suits and language.
I would like a series in the ancient past that involved the Federation with the Iconians and also perhaps the constructors of the Beta Quadrant communications array that Voyager used. There's also a theory that aliens meddled in Earth's past, such as the Annunaki and the Roswell Grays in Mexico as recorded in ancient Mexican art, perhaps a Starfleet crew ending up in the distant past, and finding Humans mining gold for a race of aliens, trying to dig in historical records to find out if they should put a stop to it or not.
I already consider _Star Trek Continues_ as canon. Yes, I know it's also a fanwork. It's just so well done.
It also nicely ties the end of the mission back into the beginning, bringing the mission full circle. It should definitely be canonized.
And frankly, CBS should have worked with Alec Peters to turn Axanar into a series, instead of the somewhat canon insulting Discovery.
I second the motion regarding Star Trek Continues, it was excellent.
I like this list. I would make one change: omit Calhoun and add Data in his new "Noonien" body.
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Omg ty ty ty ty for catching the pronunciation....wish I could give you 5 thumbs up lol. Great video!!!!
The Borgs exact origin has been answered in a series of books called Star Trek Destiny. It’s pretty awesome!
Things I wish were canon?
-Hazard Team.
-ST: New Earth and the UFPF Challenger.
-Starbase 47 "Vanguard"
and of course Destiny and the fate of the NX-02 Columbia.
I was looking for a comment with the Hazard Team. The video game Star Trek Elite Force has not aged well, but you can get it to play on win10.
I think doing a animated series not live action it would put the whole star trek universe together , have the prime timeline take over. Not discovery timeline.
Love Calhoun. I am so glad you included him. What about his navigator?
I was craving some M'k'n'zy on large screen, kept up hope after voyager went down. Great series!!
Please do a Star Trek Destiny explained video.
Be nice if he never caught any STD's though.
If you haven't read the series, I would highly recommend it.
DISCO is not StarTrek
I would like to excise the events leading up to the Kelvin time-line, the Romulans losing about 150 iq points, suddenly forgetting how their own warp-drives work and the Narada retro fitting Borg tech.
What's wrong with having the Kelvin timeline??? It has ABSOLUTELY NO the main canon!
@@JacksonOwex the events leading up to them are, which means "Picard" will have to deal with the utter annihilation of Romulus, which the Romulans should have been able fix on their own.
Well the supernova's shockwave spread faster than normal, which in STO was eventually explained but other ideas are always possible. Also, what's this about Romulans being dumber and forgetting how their warp drives work, I don't follow?
@@ScientistCat sorry for my late reply. In canon, the Romulans use quantum singularities (miniature black holes) to power their warp drives. So using a black hole to stop the nova's shockwave, is something they should have come up with on their own.
Alternatively, Spock could have sent the relevant information through sub-space, much quicker than with that (admittedly cool-looking) shuttlecraft.
@@hansakkerman2611 It's fine, I've been AFK after posting that too. Not to mention facing problems much worse than having to wait for youtube comments...
I wonder if that "red matter" had certain properties that made it more effective at this task than what the Romulans could. Maybe it created a much larger singularity than those Romulans could move or use or create.
I like thinkin up plothole-filler ideas like that, so I've already pondered this particular issue.
New Frontier remains one of my favorite concepts for a Trek, I loved how it took minor characters and assembled something unique and fanservicey at the same time.
I know its long past the time it could really be done, but it definitely was something that I could see used to inspire something new in the future.
I'd personally love to see Worfs time on the Typhon during Star Trek: Invasion canonised, but that's more a nostalgia thing. Great list BTW
I'd love to see Star Trek Vanguard canonized. Its a fantastic series of books which can pretty much be dropped entirely into the timeline without hitting the sides at all on the way down.
I'm old enough to remember that the original warp scale was the warp factor cubed was the number of times it was the speed of light. Warp 1=light speed. Warp 10=1000 light speed. Going past Warp 10 is how you jump backward in time... or forward... depending upon the script of the episode. Unless something overpowers your Warp Engine, then you go Warp 13 or 14 and simply shut down somewhere very far away. Warp Drive used to be very inconsistent in its top speeds.
"A Stitch in Time" is one of only two books that I have ever read cover-to-cover in one sitting. This was an amazing read. I highly recommend this book. (As well as the other book I've read in one sitting -- "A Painted House" by John Grisham)
The origin of the Borg can be found in the Star Trek Destiny series of novels - great reading. I would love to see the Titan introduced. The exploratory nature of the missions and diverse crew.
Isn’t this class of ship the first one with a slipstream drive
I would have love to see the battle when the Breen attack Earth
What I'd like to see with the whole transwarp/slipstream issue is similar to what we saw in Star Trek Online's lore.
They indicate in Voyager (and extend into STO) that the thing that made Transwarp unworkable during the Excelsior experiment is the fact that the technology NEEDS a system of infrastructure, a network of corridors. Essentially, stable transwarp needs a highway system. So, a Federation that starts building a Transwarp network could allow ships in the 'core worlds' relatively easy access to the frontiers, making it possible for them to maintain better support to colonies and recent additions to the Federation who have to that point not been well served by the community of worlds.
Quantum Slipstream, I think, needs to be thought of as a form of one-shot rapid gate technology. Think of it as a mechanism for jumping vast distances in a single leap, like a projected wormhole, but one that requires hours or days of recharging capacitors before it can be reused, thus forcing ships that use it to resort to warp drive (the old standard) after using the slipstream. Another upside of making it essentially a temporary wormhole projector is that it would allow one ship to project the slipstream for another ship to use, thus providing a ship that needs an emergency escape whose slipstream is recharging to request a ship in a neighboring system project an escape route FOR them.
Building diversity and downsides into the more powerful transportation tech means that it can be useful without being a full replacement for 'the old horse' of Warp.
I would love to see more details about the Akira class ships. Now that the main wars are over I would like to see the continuation of the class as tough little explorers.
Gray Seven storyline leading up to Khan's backstory just before Kirk.
I'd love to see Elite Force show up in Canon. After their Voyager and Enterprise missions. They became more efficient and dangerous.
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Here. Here.
Definitely agree with you.
I still like the macos it always seemed star fleet was always short in security forces
The Elite Force video games are awesome. It was like they where space marines. First ones in and last ones out. They could do a lot with such a concept.
As someone who prefers audiobooks, I would love to see more of the books you mentioned turned into audiobooks
Hi, I mostly agree, though I didn't read the series with cpt. Calhoun. I love the Klingon Empire series from Keith R. A. DeCandido, made Klingons pretty awesome IMO. :)
I would like to see the canonization of the Starfleet Corp of Engineers at some point.
I agree with you, there. Good to see another fan of the series.
Thank you for mentioning the Warp 10 thing. That never made much sense to me. If warp 10 is infinite speed then shouldn't it be Warp X or something?
Then it makes Warp 13 and and other mentioned high warps make sense.
I sometimes wonder if warp 10's "infinite velocity" is like how Iconian gateways work, since those allow someone to traverse seemingly limitless distances as easily as one would move from one room to another.
The Warp 13 thing from the alternate future from the end of TNG was a reschaling of the warp scale.
Got one better, no Warp drive, instead use the reverse engineered Iconian Gateway tech
@@hudsonball4702 warp 10 was broken at least 3 times in ToS. Twice by the Enterprise and once by an Orion scout ship. Plus how would you rescale the warp scale? That would be like rescaling MPH. You can't. Warp 1 is the speed of light. Warp 2 is twice the speed of light and so on. The speed of light is a constant. Only way to rescale it would be to change the definition of warp. Only reason to do that would be if it was found to be incorrect to begin with.
@@huntjl88 Please watch these.
TOS warp scale - ua-cam.com/video/h1Rf11xdCk0/v-deo.html
TNG era warp scale - ua-cam.com/video/FSoHvHlHTbU/v-deo.html
I actually really loved the entire Iconian War arc and the conclusion to it was beautiful. Of course the game focuses a lot on combat, but I think the Iconian war in a TV show would be incredibly good as a serialized show.
I’d have to go with the comic series “Early Voyages”, based on Star Trek's original pilot, which follows the adventures of the NCC-1701 under Captain Pike. The crew is a delight to watch.
The excellent episode "Feathered Serpent" from the "Star Trek: 25th Anniversary" PC game.
8:11 I’ll have to agree with you on that, but I’d like to see the Federation “struggle” a bit. Rather than have a perfect technology right out of the gate, I’d like to see some prototypes first as they progress to a version capable of exploration. In my research in building the outlines for the NCC-1701-H I found that it would otherwise make space feel very small.