How To Make More Power On A Mazda Rx8
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2019
- Power making mods, ranked for easy with low gains to hard with big gains, that will make your Mazda Rx8 Faster.
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Grandma's respect is the goal.
Yeah cuz stock rx8s impress the family but power impresses the prior car slut of the village.
Grandma is the best social media platform ;)
Bro grandma respected my Volvo S60 R that I’ve just sold and now I’m gonna get an RX-8 😂
2:43 i love, how the Rx-8 simply straightens itself out, whitout much interference, when you decide midst corner that you are done clowning around. It`s as close as foolproof as it gets. It's great on snow too.
Hey, thats my engine! wooo!
But a few comments here:
- The stock airfilter housing is already a cold air intake. Power gains, if any, are probably too small to measure.
- Decatting and replacing your entire exhaust does almost nothing for power either as the rotary engine doesn't do "exhaust scavenging"
- My engine builder who isn't new to RX8's tells me that an ECU tune will hardly be worth it either
Leaving you with one of the following 4 options:
- Port it
- Turbocharge it
- Supercharge it
- Swap engine
My prototype should add A little more power to almost any engine.
A small test video is on my page and I plan on modifying A RX8 in the future with it.
Even if you port the thing these engines are damn near maxed out from factory without doing something extreme. It's not really all that worth it unless it blows up.
@@tiondrayhartsfield Absolutely right. That said, people shouldn't get to hung up about power figures anyhow. I slaughter 911 GT3's in my 1.6 non turbo civic. The 8 is a damn fine car as it is. Just lighten it, make it more reliable and you got a winning car right there.
@@Flyingdutchy33 You don't slaughter a 911 GT3 in a non-turbo Civic.
@@Sjowie92 Did many times.
If I'm correct I know the shop that owns the white RX-8 in the beginning of the video. It actually was LS swapped. It's from Louisiana. State capital raceway is like 20 mins from my house.
"Too soon Junior".... ahahahaha!!!!
This is what I was waiting for
I'm very Glad to hear that :D
This videos is dope! keep it up I'm sure all of us look forward to new content.
Thanks bro, always enjoy your vidz. I see over time how well this is improving. Keep it up bro.
Thaank you so much bro! I'm very glad you like them :)
Always helpful
I think the best moderate option (meaning more than bolt-on but less intense than crazy engine-swaps) these days is a super or turbocharger with a strong/stable tune, some supporting cooling mods (better radiator, upgraded water-pump, thermostat, etc. - check the RX8Club forums), and don't exceed ~7psi; this will put you at ~260-280 rwhp but without sacrificing reliability if you keep up on maintenance (plugs, wires, ignition coils, oil changes, etc.).
FI used to be a quick death-sentence for Rennies due to people initially not understanding the different approach you have to take when boosting a Renesis in contrast to boosting the older lower-compression 13B's, but there have been a LOT of advancements, discoveries, and innovations in the RX8 communities over the last 5-10 years that render most of these concerns obsolete if you take the time to really do it right.
sounds like the same as the current crop of high compression skyactiv engines tbh
Hey man do you have any resource I could refer to regarding this. Ik it’s 2 years after but I just got an rx8 and after I fix it up I want to boost it.
Probably the only mod that I would include is upgrading the studs if you're shooting for over 500hp. If the trans is the same from the FD rx7, it can handle 700 but the studs can only withstand about 500. Upgrade the studs if you plan to go farther than the 500 mark.
Not even just fuel cell and fuel pump but you'll need injectors, new coils, sparkplug, an fd alternator and a tune for swaps and turbo kits to work well
Awesome video
Thanks man :)
Racing Beat Europe has an example of turbo boost. Definitely seem quite solid on stability
Loved this as an 18 year old driving for six months just cut me up and wrote me off, salt in wounds rings a bell
THanks man! Don't worry, speed is but the talent of the skill-less. In my opinion, for street driving this car is perfect. It could use some more power down below, but then where's the adrenaline of getting to 9000 rpm :)
Damn bro. Once you get the opportunity, purchase a nice little Honda EK Civic manual for daily use. Trust me, you'll never need speed again. I drove a Subaru WRX Hatchback afterwards and even though that car just grips and grips and wants you to get up on that turbo, I remembered how scary it was driving fast with the civic and let go of the turbo spool. Im currently trying to fix the old gal and somehow even though in canada we get the worst rust and winter storms, the car has minimal problems!!!!!!
Now we talking. Interesting, love the 20b conversion. But most enthusiasts tell me that the RX8 is not the car to mess around with. Not if you want it to last. My baby has 110 100km and still flying, all I do is put in 100ml of 2 stroke every time I fill her up and I did changed the exhaust a few years ago. Love your advice Mr Driven by Madness, always short, sweet and to the point. Please keep it up.
If you want REW power without as many of the custom parts needed swap it you can rebuild your renesis with Rotor housings from the 1984-85 gsl-e rx7. I am planning on doing this along with a bridgeport in a year or 2.
Thats a lot of custom work
Its funny that the extra large license plate blocks basically your entire front bumper vent 😂
6:28 A man of culture.
The grandma one makes me crack xD
I would love to engine swap my Rex but I don't wanna risk getting the car impounded because it's pretty much impossible to get a fd swap street legal here in Austria unless I run e85
Great overview, but please let people know that they should really do deeper research prior turbocharging or supercharging. You can NOT just throw turbos on your engine and tune your PCM. You need to start with a rebuild aimed for turbo lowering the compression via rotor replacement and increasing the clearances since things will get hot and will expand beyond factory specs.
i thought this is why people focused more on cooling when going for higher hp
AEM (same as Mazdaspeed) and RacingBeat air intake have a power gain within the 2% measurement tolerance of modern dynos. I wonder how you can speak of "noticable increase of power". I think this is just a placebo-effect combined with a different sound if you "notice" that. The stock airbox is extremly good for a series production car, there's no significant "blockage" of air.
Rims might be a good approach, but keep in mind that the stock wheels are also pretty light already. And not everything which optically looks lighter is also lighter in reality. ;-)
I would really like to see dyno run logs of tuners before and after which proof 15-25 PS by PCM adjustments. I doubt it's that much increase just by software adjustments. 25-30 is already in the range of Porting.
Do you know if R3 rims are much lighter than S1s or base model S2s?
This. Plus, the stock filterbox is already a cold air intake...
You can check publicly available on the versatuner demo the difference between a stock tune and a custom tune for the REVi intake. Racing Beat has long history building rotary stuff, for example Mazda Furai engine. I doubt they didn't made the research before releasing their product.
@@DENetworkES The thing I dont doubt is that they want to make money.
@@Flyingdutchy33 Everybody wants to make money.
Do you have any info or tried Force Performance Chip...
Rb airduct, kn drop in filter, bhr ignition coil, ap pulleys, short shifter, prolite flywheel, gyro 2pc Front and rear brakes, rx7 store hiflow cat, hks legamax exhaust, street port 221whp... Looks in garage, greddy full turbo kit, mazmamanic 3701r turbo kit upgrade, aem meth kit, oil coolers and etc... Then looks at phone searching for engine swap options.. .. 2 blown engine so far... Might as well sell everything and swap something into it on the next kaboom.
Do not forget about most essential mod - two times lighter driver.
Love my rx 8 😍
You're not alone :D
Yeah me too
Looking into that nitrous for my 8, good video!
Don't do it.
Awesome man, thanks :)
@@tiondrayhartsfieldis that experience talking?
@@dt-w7660 I've just seen it happen a few times the irons won't last. Lower the compression and turbo it or don't push it too far pass 300hp. Not necessarily saying you can't but it won't end well if you're going for power.
Daffy Fox yeah I’ve heard not to push it past a 50 shot so I hear you on that, nice one 👍
BIG NOTE: Procharger is a popular manufacturer for CENTRIFUGAL SUPERCHARGER. There are other manufacturers for centrfugal superchargers like vortex
This video should be: How you make power on your RX8 for 10mins and spend the the next few weeks rebuilding/sourcing new housing and irons. lol jk
75% of mods to any rotary engine will all be COOLING upgrades. just keeping the damn thing from melting itself.
The REW swap is a legit solution. but the 1st thing before adding any power to any rotary is getting better side seals and apex and corner seals.
Well, i was reading a lot about turbocharging renesis engines, i got to the conclusion that if you want to stutu your mazda, it has to be rx7 or a custom built engine, as stock 13b for rx8 have high compression rates and putting even more compression could make the engine blow or increase considerably the wear and tear of these engines, turbos work better with rotaries designed to have lower compressions to top them up, but definitely not recommended on stock rx8. It makes me cry but not worth the risk, get a billet one
A13b rew single turbo would be nice
4 rotor 13B-MSP RENESIS
dude that double brake system in the screen of 3:11 turns me wet. plz some info about it or if there are a kit to get it ty
I need parts in the U.S any information?
What about mods for an automatic manual rx8
Great Video and Advice from years of experience. I'm still 4 days away from picking up a 2009 RX8 GT MT in Excellent Condition and the History shows a complete Mazda Service Shop and OEM Cockpit and Under the Hood. Stock. Unmolested. NO CELs. Adult Owned and Operated. Never Raced. So I'm looking at ALL these Mods and Add Ons and I'm asking myself as an Old Muscle Car Guy from the past....Why not just blow 10% Nitrous? Seriously. Has anyone done this? We do it in America and with NO MODS to anywhere on the car(Save for maybe Exhaust) we usually get at least a 7-10% Boost in HP. 235HP to 258HP with the flip of a switch? Granted you have to upgrade internals when you starting blowing higher NO concentration systems. 10% is the Gold Standard for 'Street and Unmodified' Applications. Simple to install. Bottle usually goes in the Trunk with plumbing running underneath to the Intake. Clean, Affordable, and On Demand. Looks like my 1st RX8 is going to the the Nitrous Test Bed since I can't find anything on the web so far.... JP PS I don't plan on Racing or Dragging and at 68yo I'd be out of place in a 'Drifting' Event....
That 20b is gonna live in my RX8 some day..
That's when a house will become a home
Another easier, well, not super easy mod is final drive.. swap out your ring and pinion gears in the diff.. lower top speed, but much better acceleration! 👍🏼
Please don’t do this guys he’s doesn’t know what he’s talking about you don’t wanna be cruising on the free way in 6th gear
Juan Rios uhh what are you talking about..? You might be cruising around 2k rpm higher than normal.. but if you’re looking for power, you typically don’t care about fuel consumption. And what gear would you rather be cruising in on the freeway..? FIFTH?! read what you wrote.
#RideLife 2k is alot
Daniel Morris do you drive an rx8? 2k isn’t that much at all.. and it keeps you closer to the power band.
A lot of people do this when they want more acceleration and power. I didn’t make it up, look it up!
#RideLife most people daily their rx8. Terrible mod for s daily. Don’t tell yourself otherwise.
Naa I like to stay with my stock 13B renesis engine if you ported properly and put proper air intake, exhaust system, turbo charger you will get around 500 to 600 hp without any problems
Have you done those mods to your rx8 already?
With all the respect i wouldn't recommend the first mods. You should make the engine more reliable adding better water pump to keep it cool and remove all the plastic covers in the engine bay for the same reason. Next I would use some nonsynthetic high quality oil for the engine so that it burns it better but I would recommend the use of premix in case of track use. Still the cold air intake is a good idea.
Okay so im going to get an rx8 soon. What build would you recommend to get some good power while keeping it pretty economical. I do not mind spending 1k on upgrades, but i need to know which ones i should get and in what order i should get em.
Economy and rx8 ha ha ha
Did you get an RX-8?
Do you put in the car the AEM intake AND the racing beat Revi or just one of them but not both ?
You put one or the other. You can't put both.
@@AlbertoGomezSE3P Ok thank you !
For the AEM and the revi intake combined it's almost $1,000 for both. For just 3 to 5 horsepower increase. I would go fo the AEM.
13B RE/REW swap the engine. Done
3 rotor giant turbo that's it.
Suspension, welded differential and clutch make the biggest difference for the price they cost . Anything short of force induction doesn’t do enough to be worth the money they cost.
RX8 doesn’t need a welded diff it’s already an LSD
Slo_Rx8 the stock torsen LSD is garbage for drifting.
Oh nvm I was about to say it’s great for canyon driving and such, but drifting yeah a Welded or a 2 way
Tldr, ignoring some of the silly recommendations:
#1 Catless Midpipe
#2 Cold air intake
#3 tune
After that, you are looking at reliability mods, and engine swap for any serious gains.
You forgot the red break calipers plus 100 whp each
You know why you dont really find rx8 turbo kits, right? The renesis is a side port exhaust engine which does not work well with turbos. It would be cheaper to 20b the 8 than it would be to reliably turbo a renesis. And even after spending all that money reliably boosting, you're still driving a ticking time bomb that can go at any moment.
4.77 differential
strictly speaking not power gain, but then, neither is lightening stuff.
Grandma's and Mothers respect too🤣😊
Porting + exhaust + ECU-tuning = ~270 - 280 hp, turbo (~0.6 - 0.8 bar) + Porting + exhaust + ECU-tuning = ~ 280 - 320 hp
Video starts at 1:43
Not giving any idea how much power gains from each mod is next to useless.
You forgot about the 4 rotor billet engine 🤣
You dont know a Dahm thing about it
Thought this was an informational video on specifically making the renesis engine faster
And it is... What point, except the swaps and brake rotors does not involve the renesis engine?
Do not put a light fly wheel the stock fly wheel weight is specific , in order for a light fly wheel you’ll have to have it weighted the right way!
It's not a power gainer but the sohn bypass is near required
I got short ram intake
Peripheral Port is the way to go.
now your talking
before add more power mod, make sure google apex seal replacement job
After buying an rx8 and having it for a couple of days I found put this is am expensive car.
donno about that rx8 mainly eng. loss of power and apexi seal prblmz
BROTHER
Grandma flexes on me with a c7 z06
Your grandma is like top dawg! What her number?
Kinda trash but ok
@@maybelive765 what your gran drive mate
Another mod would be to F20 or LS swap it. O.o
modify the ICU only worth in a turbo charged engines ...
I bought an air intake resonator delete block off plug off Ebay. The car ran worse.
deleting the resonator should not effect how the car runs. i would recommend getting it checked out. or recheck your installation
Twin charged 13b rew 🤔
Napalm is the best rx8 mod you can do for it.
I kinda think the best overall RX8 build would be with the Pettit supercharger and a streetport for two reasons:
Firstly, the streetport is known for giving out enough hp for anyone to enjoy at first, and the Pettit supercharger gives that low end torque everyone misses in the stock rotary engine. But, also the supercharger puts less emphasis on engine pressure contrasting a turbo build, meaning the engine's lifespan typically doesnt decrease any more than before!!! It'll also produce something close to 315hp if tuned right, which is absolutely amazing considering how impossible people tell me it is to make power out of these bad boys.
Me personally, Ive heard stories of the RENNY/REW hybrid engine and im very interested because aftermarket RX7 lightweight rotors are known to go 10Krpm+ on the power figures (and parts of the REW block is stronger for high PSI vs Renny) ... Exactly what i want out of a rotary!!! That and a light bridgeport for that slight brap sound I so love. Coupled that with a very careful supercharger install and I think my 8 could be making a healthy 400hp!!!!
I mean if you're already going that far you might as well skip the bridge and go semi pp. Save the irons the added stress with a little more up top than the bridge. Also when you say hybrid do you mean the one where they mate the renesiss front cover to the FD so it keeps all the RX8 functions or something else?
@@tiondrayhartsfield yeah... Something like that... I forget because I informed myself of this build what like 2 years ago already? Damn... Right now im trying to build a winter daily and its really hard because most 2nd gen subies in this country are rust buckets now :/
Try being stuck in Korea with a Supra. You'd think it would be easier because Japan is right there but ost people refuse to source the parts and the rest simply don't know where to look. Can't wait to go back to the states.😔
@@tiondrayhartsfield sounds like a pain :/ why are you stuck in korea?
@@maybelive765 military.
But, my grandma is the one giving me my RX8 🤣🤣
Let’s say you did the first few mods on a healthy rx8 and then turbo charged it and ran 8-10 psi what powers could you expect and how many miles could one expect the motor to last before needing to be rebuilt to replace apex seals?
At 10psi? 45000miles probably.
how can I give more power to my rx8 which is automatic
good question
Where is muh ls1
Only acceptable swap is a 13brew or other rotary swap. Sorry kids
If you wonna keep the soul yes :)
Best mod. Throw out the rotary engine and start again.
Tires
LS swap??
Ditch the rotary engine.
A pro charger is a belt driven super charger not turbo
Lol your grandma is hard to impress
5:50 at this point just buy the whole rx7
Where can I get a turbo kit
Drop in K&N air filter is always the way to go for me.
Be careful you don't do K&N filters on cars with a MAF sensor. Only use it on cars with a MAP sensor as the oil will char the glow-wire used in MAF sensors and will screw up your air fuel mixture over time.
@@Flyingdutchy33 not only that.. a k&n filer is known to let fine dust through... that can damage the internals of the engine over time.
Platina Hunting that’s why I use a sock on small engines, better filtering than K&N while also looking halarious (great airflow with “tubular filtration area” along with style points if you want with custom seasonal design. “Nothing makes power like a SuperMan sock!” TM
All those mods will add virtually nothing to the power output of the car. The only way to add power to an RX8 is a ported rebuild. What you'll spend on the mods that you suggest you could put towards a rebuild.Turbo charging a renesis is a bad idea, engine life will be reduced. If you have to go the FI route you're better off super charging it
Oh i like ur accent,where r u from?
I wish someone would produce a show about adapting a more generic supercharger for the 13B Does anyone know of some companies that build "generic" superchargers that can be adapted? Keep driving the Madness!
26b
Du bist Deutsch?
Nein, Slowenien.
Okay weil bin Deutsch und verstehe deswegen nicht viel und mir werden keine Untertitel angezeigt :c
Lol You forgot to say if you Want a 3rd gen 13b installed and properly tuned is Only gonna Cost you Like 15K or More oh yea That's US Money
Grandma will borrow my car ...
No ls swap today hell yeah
How to increase power in a rx8?
Swap in a V8 or 2jz or my personal favourite a K20
Gross
pfff.... 3 rotor? slam a 4 rotor there 😁
elitist :p
@@Flyingdutchy33 😂😂😂
Why put an FD Rx 7 engine inside a Rx 8 instead of buying an actual Rx 7?
What’s the difference between $20k and $1k?
@@shanebaronak1625 It's worth it
Cheaper to swap
My rx8 is horrible on gas
You must be new here
Josh Justice I am
nr. 1 ENGINE SWAP /closed
True, the most cost effective mod that will guarantee the effect your were expecting.
A procharger is supercharger....
Wrong
@@xESPplayer500x you’re wrong lol
Common sense.
No talk of LS swap but shows the white twin turbo ls rx8 multiple times......