'Then I broke down. I was exhausted' Taimanov vs Bobby Fischer Game 3 | Candidates 1971
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2019
- Grandmaster Daniel King examines the Taimanov vs Fischer Game 3 from the Candidates 1971. Support on Patreon: ► / powerplaychess
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although they didn´t play a match, I´d like to see a series on Fischer-Geller games. Geller proved to be the toughest rival Fischer had,
Thanks, Daniel King for resurrecting this critically important game in chess history. I vaguely recall reading awhile back that Mark Taimanov's then wife, Lyubov Bruk was not very supportive of Taimanov around this time ... that she wanted him to play piano instead of chess, and that this lack of support contributed to losses to Fischer.
Thank you very much for presenting these games Mr. King. I like Taimanov's openings though. He did not have stamina and endurance to keep up the good play, but I really like what he was doing. Very vibrant, attacking style. In the critical position, I would have played Qh3 in an instant there. My first instinct was also Rxg7 and Qc3+ at 15.15, the knight gets active too. Rd1 which Taimanov played was admitting he was worse. In such positions it's better to sacrifice material and lose in style, rather than being slowly grinded down by Fischer and getting psychologically destroyed...
@@MrSupernova111 I wonder why you were triggered so much? All I said was that Taimanov did not have the energy to take down Fischer and that's a widely acknowledged fact. Even if you are a relative to Taimanov, there was nothing in my reply which warranted such a reply from you. And yes, Qh3 was no-brainer. Sometimes obvious moves are wrong and that's what separates good players from average players. The move itself wasn't hard to find. Taimanov messed up and even he acknowledged that.
@@MrSupernova111 And I doubt Rxg7 followed by Qc3+ is objectively a good move. I did not check with the engine but it does look like an "all in" move. I would have played that and hoped for the best. I would certainly not want to waste 2 more hours, wasting my concentration and energy trying to hold on. I personally don't have stamina, nor nerves to do that.
Great video again!! Would you do a Fischer vs Larsen 1971 series? I really love those videos where there is a mix of history and analysis
Thank you. Fischer-Larsen...all in good time!
I think what stands out with your reviews, Daniel, especially of older games like these from the candidates tournament, is your fascinating insights to the surrounding event and the psychological thriller between some of the chess world's greatest players. GM Yasser Seirawan also has some of the same qualities in his reviews, but with more focus on fascinating anecdotes. But I think you surpass him overall. Which says a lot.
As always: great stuff, Daniel!
It's really outstanding to get your take on these famous games I grew up with.
Thanks a lot! I'm really looking forward to the rest of this series! :)
Thanks for the video Mr King!
Hi, i think your analysis is awesome and it really helps me to understand openings, positions and ideas better than almost all analysis I’ve seen of many games in general, so thank you
Thank you!
You're using a new mug today! :)
Brilliant analysis, thank you!
I think Taimanov did quite well but Fischer was just unstoppable those days, so much energy, he was like a force of nature, he was going to win everything no matter what. Taimanov was just in the way.
"The game is afoot" - Bobby Fischer
great analyses... thanks a lot.
Talking about psychological pressure you could show some games from the match between Kasparov and Miles where the latter had the chess equivalent of a mental breakdown!
That was an amazing match. But Kasparov didn't quite manage a Fischer like 6-0 shut out, the match ended 5.5-0.5
@@jprw That's just numbers, though. Taimanov could have easily drawn a couple of games (2 and 5 he blundered in almost dead drawn positions).
Great vid! Thanks!
This is my favourite Fischer's game. I love the counterattack starting after Taimanov's inacuracy. And - what is even more moving - you can see exactly the moment, when Taimanov just broke down psychologically. I believe this move 20.Nf3 just decided about whole match. Amazing.
Excellent
Thanks for the great video. Incredible defensive performace by Fischer. It's interesting if he could have holded the game after Qh3. But 73 minutes by Taimanov speaks for his psychological condition.
Amazing position after Rc6! Fischer in his element but Taimanov playing out of his skin as well.
Best thing with fisher is kings Indian ... The brave heart... King side attack...
dang good thing he can play the piano!
Hi Danny, other fans, what happens if on move 18, white advances the pawn to C6...I think it massive cripples black's light squared bishop or at least gains a tempo
Thanks again Daniel - poor Taimanov was so tilted.
As much as I adore playing chess, I am a casual player only. I can't imagine how players play these kinds of tournaments and games at this level. I would be mentally wiped out, too.
72 minutes just to play a bad move, Qh3 seem to give Taimanov good attacking chances. Great play by the king of kings Bobby Fischer.
At 7:10/7:15: what about Rxc7 Qxc7 Qxd5+ threatening Qxa8 on the next move?
Rxc7 hxg5 black doesn't take the rook. Still according to my engine the move is as good as Rc6, the position is even in both cases
I just had a wacky realization: other than family members i probably spent the most time with you, Daniel.
Thank you for discussing these tense games! Translated notes from '64,' annotated by Tal, have recently been posted here: dgriffinchess.wordpress.com/2019/06/06/the-fischer-taimanov-candidates-quarter-final-vancouver-1971-with-annotations-by-tal-moiseev/
Why not to repeat KID? It's the best opening vs 1.d4 ;-)
Daniel your thoughts on 19.Rxc7?
19 Rxc7 comes very close but Black can defend with 19...hxg5 20 Bxg5 Qd6. Even here my machine declares that White has enough compensation for the piece with 21 Re7 with a draw by repetition after 21...Ra5 22 Rd1 Kh7 23 Qh3+ Kg8 24 Qb3. This line shows just how close Fischer was to losing - but he defended brilliantly.
@@PowerPlayChess thanks for that Daniel. yes Bobby was indeed more than comfy dancing on the razor's edge!
It's very poor from the organizers to let them play game 3 before game 2 ends, that should never happen
Great Game by Bobby Fischer The Greatest Of All Time!
18:37 It's worth mentioning that if 36 Nxf5, yes 36...Qd7 wins, but 36...Qe6 loses to 37 Bd3!
What was the score needed to win the match? Was it a best of 7?
Travis Petit first to 6 wins
@@DoshuWill Thank you
That's actually not true. It was a ten game match, with the first player to reach 5,5 points declared the winner.
Can we please have a positive quotation from Taimanov! Like a non-depressive, non-suicidal ideation type! :-)
Under such circumstances, I think it is quite understandable how Taimanov was feeling. He was famously optimistic - after the first game loss he was still feeling good; but 3-0 down...
@@PowerPlayChessI agree! I am a little ironic here because Taimanov was such a great player and it feels that because of this match and of the subsequent story, he will always be relegated to the abyss of the eternal loser...
Fascinating position after 18..axb6.
After 19.Bc4 it seems to me that 19..Bb7 would allow 20.Ne6 which to me looks very good for white. Am I wrong?
Also I can’t help wondering what would have happened after 19.Rxc7.
19..Qxc7 doesn’t seem too attractive because of 20.Qxd5 followed by 21.Qxa8. Of course after 21..hxg5 the material is equal, but I feel that few black-players would like to allow the fork on d5.
So I guess the alternative would be 19..hxg5 which looks very complicated. Black might be doing fine, but I don’t think I'd like to play black.
19.Rxc7 is answered above. Black doesn't take the rook but the N on g5 by 19...hxg5: 20.Bc4 Be6 and now the RC/ is hanging for real as black's rooks are connected
19.Bc4 would have been answered by ..c6. That's a one reason why Taimanov played Rc6
Let's not put Bobby on a pedestal here. Taimanov, closing in on his fifties, got exhausted (yet again), and failed to keep his initiative up. I think Bobby got somewhat lucky in this game. But of course Bobby had a better stamina, which we all know is a very important attribute in (classical) chess.
You might wish to remove Bobby from his pedestal, but I will put him back! His performance in this match was unprecedented. We can always make excuses for someone's poor play (I frequently do in my videos as I think it is important to have sympathy and understanding for the loser) but this should not diminish Fischer's achievement.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to talk down Fischer's achievement overall. Perhaps I should have said "Let's be careful about putting Bobby on a pedestal here."
My impression is that Fischer got somewhat lucky and that turned the tide for him. Which also had an effect on the adjourned game. I'm wondering what would happen if Taimanov had a better constitution.
Otherwise I agree that Bobby played with guts, especially considering that he played against "the whole of USSR's chess academy" at this point in history. The psychological pressure on him must have been tremendous.
@@rojokongen Flemming Lauritzen There is no need to be careful. Fischer is squarely on the pedestal. No doubt in my mind. It's okay if you don't share my opinion! You do so politely, so that's fine!
@@PowerPlayChess I actually find these games extremely instructive (with your wonderful commentary, that is!).
Fischer was obviously well aware that he was a much stronger player by that time (Botvinnik famously advised his fellow russians to "hide Fischer's real strength from Taimanov"), and he chose to create very imbalanced and dangerous positions as black, possibly relying on his superior instincts.
And it worked out beautifully! Taimanov got promising positions, but could't quite solve the problems over the board!
Btw, I really hope you will go on to cover game 5! I found that always a fascinating struggle, although a draw would certainly have been a more appropriate result!
TIME-an'off haha
uh-oh...here we go again. I plead guilty to all charges of careless pronunciation and throw myself at the mercy of the international court of linguistic offences.
@@PowerPlayChess NO! It's a silly pun!
@@chazzabh Ha! By this stage, having been battered in the past, I simply assume I'm pronouncing incorrectly...
This one was flawless! @@PowerPlayChess
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