Best Laptop CPU 2023? Ryzen 9 7945HX vs Intel i9-13980HX

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +92

    Update: The full review of the ASUS Scar 17 with 7945HX is up! Get all the details next: ua-cam.com/video/TjvQ1ZezOXY/v-deo.html

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 Рік тому

      Hyping for the review, since EOFY is happening soon in Australia, so massive sales are coming soon

    • @OldManBryan
      @OldManBryan Рік тому

      Hey Jarrod, would you be able to get a laptop with a 7745HX in it and compare it with the 7945HX in single core heavy games and benchmarks? I play alot of game / VR games that utilize single core heavily so the 3.6 vs 2.9 base clock has me concerned that getting the top end will gimp my personal experience. Problem is alot of companies force you to get the high end if you want a high end graphics card which sucks. EG Alienware.

    • @FTL1511
      @FTL1511 Рік тому

      Any chances you will also review the regular Strix G 17/18 or how it's called this year.
      I'm curious how it compares to mine from last year.

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 Рік тому

      @@FTL1511 The difference between them is mostly different GPU, with overseas version of g17 and g18 only having up to 4070 while scar 17 and 18 starts at 4080

    • @Bass-xg3tt
      @Bass-xg3tt Рік тому

      what do you think of this configuration for this laptop? legion pro 5 2023 - ryzen 9 7945HX - RTX4070 - 1TB - 32GB - screen 240 hertz 500 nits - for the price of 1896.56 US Dollar

  • @rudrakshpathak5834
    @rudrakshpathak5834 Рік тому +723

    Good to see AMD giving a tough competition to Intel. With Apple pressuring Intel with it's M series, Intel will be pressed to find a better performing processor thermally. Good for the consumer.

    • @bionicseaserpent
      @bionicseaserpent Рік тому +59

      Apple has to watch for AMD not intel.

    • @muhammadtausif7195
      @muhammadtausif7195 Рік тому +22

      Not good for wallet though

    • @abdullahnaeem7275
      @abdullahnaeem7275 Рік тому +19

      when it come to laptop my brother always had a preference to AMD seems to be a good reason for it.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat Рік тому +43

      @@muhammadtausif7195 How is more competition by having 3 CPU vendors not good for wallet ?

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 Рік тому +13

      ​​@@abdullahnaeem7275eems your brother is just a fanboy, like me 😂

  • @attilad.8142
    @attilad.8142 Рік тому +151

    The last 1-2 years have been really great for mobile CPUs. I'm really excited to see how the next few years will shape up.

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay Рік тому +1

      What's best laptop between/under 2500-2600 USD?

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay Рік тому +3

      WHat's best laptop around ( 2500USD-2600USD) 1.5-1.8 lac for working professional
      Screen Size 17.3 or 18
      Data Science and AI graphics
      Computer modelling and networking
      Virtualization??

    • @gwanime4929
      @gwanime4929 Рік тому +1

      @@Samdevay get Asus ROG strix g16 with the nebula display. it should be around 2500USD, you get 4070, 32gb ram ddr5, nebula display mini LED 1600p, 100% rgb 100% DCI-3, 3 fan, best laptop cooling technology at the moment. and best core i9-13980hx

    • @gwanime4929
      @gwanime4929 Рік тому +1

      @@Samdevay basically you get best everything in the market right now, best screen display, best CPU best ram, best cooling system but only 4070 gpu because if higher than that with 1600p Nebula display in asus it will overheat your laptop unnecessarily.

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay Рік тому

      @@gwanime4929 Thanks how is G18 and what's difference in performance and heating?

  • @saurabhkumar3054
    @saurabhkumar3054 Рік тому +95

    Hey Jarrod, please make a video comparing the ryzen 5 and the i5 too. Majority of the people are planning to buy midrange laptops with those processors.

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 Рік тому +9

      You're right. I hope r5 can beat i5 in single core 🙏 while also giving better battery life

    • @Risa222
      @Risa222 Рік тому +17

      i7 and ryzen 7 would be good too

    • @AstroTwist
      @AstroTwist Рік тому +1

      ​@@randy89555 No Bro This year will be different❤❤❤
      In single core intel will easily beat AMD ❤❤❤
      And because of higher single core Clock in AMD so Battery life will be also Degrade
      And another think clock speed can't decide the single core speed but yeh higher clock speed will definitely decide battery backup
      Because if any company build a processor core for higher clock speed then that core can't use for lower clock speed
      Thats why intel use P+ E Core Architecture for Efficiency
      In battery power mode your laptop will use E core for more battery life.

    • @sonicboy678
      @sonicboy678 Рік тому

      You'll need to be far more specific.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +27

      If I ever get any 😅

  • @ZenithX2000
    @ZenithX2000 Рік тому +186

    The gaming results where the AMD chip is faster in 1440p and 4k are due to the chip using less energy at lower usage, allowing the GPU to use more of the available TDP, allowing better FPS.

    • @IvanConor
      @IvanConor Рік тому +9

      yes, I have same thing.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat Рік тому +17

      Yeah I was thinking it's funny how the CPU difference mattered more at higher resolutions 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @chrisbullock6477
      @chrisbullock6477 Рік тому +13

      Sounds smart to me.

    • @eric131313
      @eric131313 Рік тому +8

      Dude couldn't make connection despite making his living out of this comparisons 😂😂

    • @achaffer1237
      @achaffer1237 Рік тому +12

      Didn’t he have the cpus power limited in those tests though?

  • @Eleganttf2
    @Eleganttf2 Рік тому +273

    Love it when Intel and AMD are competitive like this on the CPU side... on the GPU side tho its far grimmer for this generation especially, both AMD and Nvidia did a massive flop for price to performance especially when the price hike is so big.

    • @bogganalseryd2324
      @bogganalseryd2324 Рік тому +9

      Though amd has integrated rdna3 that blows away anything Intel has

    • @abdullahnaeem7275
      @abdullahnaeem7275 Рік тому +14

      @@bogganalseryd2324 ohhh yeah rog ally seems to be benefitting from it the most.

    • @chrisbullock6477
      @chrisbullock6477 Рік тому +4

      You have to look at overall cost and performance you're getting. the good old Intel/Nvidia combo of laptops are always sure to be extremely expensive. And the Nvidia Laptop GPU's from 80 series to 90 series never deliver what they hype up to be...that's been proven. Why I love the AMD Advantage laptops. Perfect balance of power and efficiency within a cohesive ecosystem

    • @bogganalseryd2324
      @bogganalseryd2324 Рік тому

      @@abdullahnaeem7275 I agree

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +2

      yeah, it's especially funny to see desktop buyers complain about prices of the 4070 when its laptop equivalent(4080m) costs like $2500

  • @mattdhargett
    @mattdhargett Рік тому +23

    Thank you for including C++ build times! I’d love to see the LLVM Linux build complemented with a windows/Visual Studio build, like a Chromium Windows build.

  • @RealLifeTech187
    @RealLifeTech187 Рік тому +28

    Hey love the analysis you do and that's great as always 👍 *BUT* you often switched around the position of the i9 and R9 in the different sections so viewers always have to check which one is on top on which graph. It would be better if one of them is always on top and the other always bottom.

  • @InterstateRaziTV
    @InterstateRaziTV Рік тому +49

    This is probably the most informative channel about laptops. Excellent Videos Jarrod!

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +6

      Thanks!

    • @InterstateRaziTV
      @InterstateRaziTV Рік тому

      @@JarrodsTech Np! Can't wait to see more computer reviews.

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay Рік тому

      What's best laptop between/under 2500-2600 USD?

    • @InterstateRaziTV
      @InterstateRaziTV Рік тому

      @@Samdevay Go for an Alienware. Amazing Build Quality!

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay Рік тому

      WHat's best laptop around ( 2500USD-2600USD) 1.5-1.8 lac for working professional
      Screen Size 17.3 or 18
      Data Science and AI graphics
      Computer modelling and networking
      Virtualization???

  • @milanpaudel9624
    @milanpaudel9624 Рік тому +26

    Man imagine being able to afford one of these.

    • @RTCSAW
      @RTCSAW Рік тому +7

      6k for a laptop... dreams bro

    • @greebj
      @greebj Рік тому

      there are cheaper, better options than Asuss imo. $4K AUD for a Legion 7 Pro 13900HX/4080 is about the best ... I mean least worst value...... and $5k for L7P with 4090, or the Tongfang (XMG Neo 23 / Mech17 GP / Aftershock Manta etc).

    • @Freestyle80
      @Freestyle80 Рік тому +9

      Go get a job instead of complaining about how you can't afford anything and starting a pity party under every tech video.

    • @kingvamppp
      @kingvamppp 8 місяців тому

      😂😂😂@@Freestyle80

    • @TechieTard
      @TechieTard 5 місяців тому +1

      My friend, I make 6 figures, and 6K for a laptop is extreme! I would never in 1000000 years bite that bullet.

  • @Raintiger88
    @Raintiger88 Рік тому +11

    The work you put into your comparisons is quit amazing. It's not something that's lost on most of us. Thank you for all the work you do!

  • @lrmcatspaw1
    @lrmcatspaw1 Рік тому +50

    Quite interesting data.
    I find it especially interesting how Intel and AMD are trading blows instead of having a clear lead for one side or the other.
    EDIT: In gaming.

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay Рік тому +1

      What's best laptop between/under 2500-2600 USD?

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay Рік тому +1

      WHat's best laptop around ( 2500USD-2600USD) 1.5-1.8 lac for working professional
      Screen Size 17.3 or 18
      Data Science and AI graphics
      Computer modelling and networking
      Virtualization??

    • @Blackstar-ti4py
      @Blackstar-ti4py Рік тому +1

      Part of the circus thats why 😂

  • @sonicboy678
    @sonicboy678 Рік тому +44

    It's worth noting that the Radeon 610(M) is on the I/O die and explicitly meant for extremely light tasks and especially GPU diagnostics.

    • @mikeb3172
      @mikeb3172 Рік тому +13

      It's meant for youtube videos as well, & long battery life. I think Jarrod messed up that test.

    • @randxalthor
      @randxalthor Рік тому +5

      Really interesting how poorly it did at UA-cam playback, considering that's half the reason it exists in the CPU.

    • @VideogamesAsArt
      @VideogamesAsArt Рік тому +31

      @@randxalthor The iGPU didn't do poorly at youtube playback, battery life is unrelated to performance. The issue with battery life is with chiplets. Chiplets are much less efficient than monolithic dies, and it's a sacrifice that had to be made in order to achieve such high multicore performance at lower power. The 15W-54W Phoenix will have much higher battery life, since that is monolithic too.

    • @mingyi456
      @mingyi456 Рік тому +5

      @@mikeb3172 It might also be because the 7945hx is chiplet just like the 7950x (because they need chiplets to get 16 cores with good yields and reasonable cost), and the 7950x has significantly higher idle power consumption than even the 13900k due to the chiplet design. When amd does monolithic, they beat intel in battery life but seem to lose performance due to the lack of l3 cache that can fit.

    • @ikjadoon
      @ikjadoon Рік тому +4

      @@mikeb3172 I don't think he messed up the test, but it is hard to pinpoint what as there's no power data during the battery life test. Maybe that would help? Notebookcheck found the 7945HX CPU package power to consume 42% more power at idle than the i9-13900HX (8.3W on AMD vs 5.8W on Intel). 2.5 at 1hr idle = 2.5 WHr stolen.
      >We also checked the CPU Package Power while idling with identical power settings on both systems. Intel's Core i9-13900HX is better in this regard with an average consumption of 5.8 Watts, while the AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX consumes 42 % more at ~8.3 Watts.
      But that'd only explain maybe ~10 WHr due to higher load (thus a ~11% loss in battery life). Something else is wrong here.

  • @50H3i1
    @50H3i1 Рік тому +30

    I think the adantage in higher resolutions might be the efficiency of 7945HX letting the GPU use more of the TDP budget

  • @warslayr7341
    @warslayr7341 Рік тому +12

    Thanks Jarrod ,for all your hard work. Really appreciate it

  • @MrSvetrkravata
    @MrSvetrkravata 2 місяці тому +3

    Jarrod, did you have any instability issues with the i9? Are they affected by the CPU degradation?

  • @KaoruSugimura
    @KaoruSugimura Рік тому +21

    "For those who dare"
    ...to not have an honored warranty

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 Рік тому +3

      Bruh, hope the motherboard problem doesn't spread into their AMD laptop lineup (as the Ryzen 9 7945HX is basically a 7950X desktop but with cutted down TDP)

    • @Eleganttf2
      @Eleganttf2 Рік тому

      @@sihamhamda47 All good

    • @KaoruSugimura
      @KaoruSugimura Рік тому +1

      @@Eleganttf2
      Considering the temps in this video I'd sooner bet it isn't. That AMD chip was running much hotter than the Intel and that was while pulling less power. Definitely something going on there.

    • @kiro_luv8424
      @kiro_luv8424 26 днів тому +1

      @@KaoruSugimura "hur dur definently something" oh idk maybe the fact it's a damn 16 core and it's a dragon range processor

  • @Guitar_Dude09
    @Guitar_Dude09 Рік тому +15

    What a right moment for this video to release, the M18 was offering both high end configs but ended up getting Intel since it was cheaper oddly enough & I guess i made the right choice since the performance difference in games is negligible (I play at 1080p anyways so went for the 480hz option ) all I care about is cooling & maintaining its max speeds now, thanks for the video glad I don’t have to cancel my order lol

    • @jacedragon
      @jacedragon 10 місяців тому

      how are you enjoying it? and why do you prefer to game in 1080p instead of 1440p on the m18? i keep going back and forth as i was gonna use AMD for the CPU and the 7900m GPU but it requires me to get the FHD screen and not the UHD

    • @Guitar_Dude09
      @Guitar_Dude09 10 місяців тому

      @@jacedragon I enjoy it a lot, IMO FHD is where it’s at for high refresh rate gaming & I love high FPS. It really depends on what you want, I went with the 4090 config but I hear the 7900m is in between 4070 & 4080. & on an 18 inch screen 1200p is fine for me of course QHD will look crispier but I don’t care much about res if Im being honest. I went for the 4090 for the best performance possible & the 13980HX since the test shows it was doing better at 1090p

  • @Belsen85
    @Belsen85 Рік тому +5

    Jarrod, thank you very much for improving the "Professional applications" Section in the review: I must say that more and more engineering companies and such start using gaming laptops instead of "Professional" laptop with "professional" video cards (like RTX T1000, RTX A4000 and so on) -- the price premium for "professional" became insane lately, not reasoning the gains.
    If you could add any 3D CAD applications (SolidWorks, CATIA, Fire Pro) and FE software (CalculiX is free, for example) that would be great!

  • @alun1038
    @alun1038 Рік тому +11

    AMD winning in gaming performance but sadly sacrificing efficiency on battery kinda makes sense for these big desktop replacements

    • @DeepteshLovesTECH
      @DeepteshLovesTECH Рік тому +4

      It's by design of their desktop chiplet architecture. It has an always active seperate I/O die.
      Dragon range is their desktop chips.

    • @defnotatroll
      @defnotatroll Рік тому

      ​@@DeepteshLovesTECH ELI5?

    • @greebj
      @greebj Рік тому +5

      they don't sacrifice efficiency under load though, it's absolutely the opposite.
      Which might make a difference in a few years in a laptop with a total board power limit when the CPU is hammered in a game using a full 175W on a 4080 or 4090. In other words, something like a CPU limit of 75W will get more work done by a 7945HX than it will by a 139x0 HX.

  • @BostonFenian
    @BostonFenian Рік тому +12

    I'm trying to decide between these two laptops right now and want to thank you for such a detailed, informative, and concise video. My current gaming laptop has an intel CPU but for most of my life I've preferred AMD, and, thanks to your excellent comparative review and AMD's friendlier price point, I think I'll be returning to my AMD roots. Thanks again!

    • @elderly_horse
      @elderly_horse Рік тому +1

      I am also trying to choose, I have already reviewed 20 videos that you have chosen

    • @sfeffeefeffe-bn6rp
      @sfeffeefeffe-bn6rp Рік тому +1

      R9 намного лучше. Бери его.

    • @elderly_horse
      @elderly_horse Рік тому

      @@sfeffeefeffe-bn6rp я уже выбрал.

    • @Ō-ZARU
      @Ō-ZARU 10 місяців тому

      ​@@elderly_horsesatisfait ?

  • @theinfiniteisallaroundus2576
    @theinfiniteisallaroundus2576 4 місяці тому +1

    To think 5-10 years ago it was unimaginable to have more than 4 cores inside our high end laptops was incredible, and see today 16+ cores is going to be the norm is insane😮, and it will continue to get better and better, when all tech companies start to pursuit efficiency and performance at the same time with new machines andthe rise of ARM processors 😃.

  • @Hubwood
    @Hubwood Рік тому +3

    Thanks for you hard work once more!

  • @TheJPedrosa
    @TheJPedrosa Рік тому +23

    quite a bummer for me, I loved the last generation of amd processors because they managed to deliver pretty good performance while doubling the battery life compared to intel. sucks to know that this isn't the case with these two high end chips

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat Рік тому +4

      you need to get 7040HS or U series processors for that, they have better battery life compared to even ryzen 6000. 7945HX is just 7950X desktop with less memory speeds. Same with 13980HK, it is literally a 13900K.

    • @rafaelclp
      @rafaelclp Рік тому +2

      From other reviews, the ryzen 9 seems to be way more efficient than the i9 in multi-core heavy workloads (all cores being pushed as hard as possible), and show similar efficiency in single core heavy workloads (a single core being pushed to 100%). However, for workloads that are not heavy at all (like the one done by Jarrod - watching a simple youtube video), the efficiency cores in the i9 are enough to keep the task going, so there's no need for the performance cores to kick in, thus saving a lot of battery.

  • @Vj-mi7fi
    @Vj-mi7fi Рік тому +5

    You should have tested intel’s 150W performance.
    So that we could know that the power difference matters or not

  • @amadei2
    @amadei2 Рік тому +3

    I wish a compagny will put a 7945hx in a smaller chassis, even at 65w. Seem like it would destroy everything for a productivity laptop

  • @muhammedozbek7492
    @muhammedozbek7492 Рік тому +8

    with undervolt, amd cpu reaches 36000 score at cinebench r23 and intel cpu reach 34000 score, pretty close tho

    • @shrey522
      @shrey522 5 місяців тому

      Can you undervolt AMD CPU?

    • @muhammedozbek7492
      @muhammedozbek7492 5 місяців тому

      @@shrey522 Not much as intel, but you definitely can

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal Рік тому +6

    12:34 Zen 4 laptop chips are same as desktop ones. Those aren't monolithic. 610M is simply what Zen 4 comes with by default, as this iGPU is inside of the I/O die

  • @cocohebert199
    @cocohebert199 Рік тому +24

    Could the 4K results seeming to be higher for AMD be a result of the 4090 drawing max wattage at 4K leaving less total power for the CPU ?

    • @raymondrached6301
      @raymondrached6301 Рік тому +17

      I thought about it too, if thats the case its just amd's efficiency coming into play and a genuine advantage.

    • @niko1even
      @niko1even Рік тому

      no shouldn't be, the Scar 18 has a 330w power supply, and games shouldn't push the CPU all the way to 175 watts.

    • @greebj
      @greebj Рік тому +1

      cross load limits might be lower tho. The less pure performance-oriented models like these tend to have firmware limits in place to limit CPU power under full GPU load to keep well below powerbrick limit.

  • @TabalugaDragon
    @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +5

    Thanks for another excellent comparison, Jarrod!
    You think you could make a review of an HX i7 model+4090m?
    The 1% lows due to too many cores on the i9 is terrible. Imagine buying a top end gaming laptop and get poor framerate stability just because you chose a top end CPU

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому

      what to do? can we disable e cores?

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      @@vmafarah9473 depends on a laptop I guess

  • @5kyX0
    @5kyX0 Рік тому +1

    "If you need more power than this, why are you on a laptop?" - best point made

  • @sasca854
    @sasca854 Рік тому +2

    Just what I was looking for, thanks!

  • @coolvinay
    @coolvinay 4 місяці тому +2

    The problem with AMD CPUs are higher idling power which is what needs to be measured. Its ok on desktops and not on laptops.

  • @saturnotaku
    @saturnotaku Рік тому +3

    While I don't need MacBook levels of battery life, I do quite frequently use my gaming laptop unplugged for content consumption and light duty tasks. AMD's result was surprising and quite disappointing

    • @unionofslavstanrepublics2317
      @unionofslavstanrepublics2317 Рік тому +4

      16 cores across two dies ie not a monolithic die like Intel with higher idle power draw makes sense that AMD has worse battery life.

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 Рік тому

      Hopefully ryzen5 will be better🙏

    • @VideogamesAsArt
      @VideogamesAsArt Рік тому +2

      @@randy89555 what will be better is phoenix. That one is monolithic, and while it will only top out at 8 cores, will bring similar or even better battery life than macbooks

    • @souvikmondal6161
      @souvikmondal6161 Рік тому

      If you want battery , then look for the 7000hs series laptops. They are almost as powerful as the dragon range while providing better battery life

    • @ucle9955
      @ucle9955 Рік тому

      @@souvikmondal6161that's just not true. While 7000 HS series have impressive performance for their TDP, they're roughly about the same level as Intel i7/i9 H series, and far more slower than HX big boys (especially in multi core work load).

  • @mr3_def
    @mr3_def Рік тому +1

    okay, just before I watch the vid: mad props for putting all these chapters and timestamps.

  • @celticgibson
    @celticgibson 7 місяців тому +1

    I have the 7945hx in my legion pro 7 and man it’s fire. Love it!

    • @sosuslays
      @sosuslays 7 місяців тому

      thinking about buying the 4090 version of the pro 7i, based on you having it would you recommmend i buy it? is there anything holding back why you wouldnt?

    • @celticgibson
      @celticgibson 7 місяців тому +1

      The 4080 is a scream as it is. I'm sure you will be thrilled with the 4090. I love the design of this laptop. Very stylish and subtle yet powerful when it needs to be.@@sosuslays

  • @rajandeep9242
    @rajandeep9242 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for this video jarrod

  • @Sakosaga
    @Sakosaga Рік тому +2

    The realization of Intel is doing what AMD did, adding more cores to the problem, but failing.....

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 Рік тому

      Yeah, I mean, Intel is trash, right😂😂😂

  • @contiplays
    @contiplays Рік тому +2

    Daaamn, how much I love competition.

  • @RipeStories
    @RipeStories Рік тому +4

    The ryzen one is so damn good at 65w. Thanks for testing jarrods tech. Embarrassing that no other tech reviewers have tinkered around with tdps before and showed the amazing perf of this cpu at 65w

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 Рік тому

      ryzen is so much better with power efficiency intel had to cope by making extra weak eco threads 🤣

  • @creepo1230
    @creepo1230 Рік тому +4

    Great comparison! I wonder how the Intel Core i9-13900H compares to the intel i9-13980hx since I see the 13900h in many midrange to highrange laptops and the 13980hx in more highrange laptops. Are the 13980hx laptops worth their price?

  • @-MrEVIL-
    @-MrEVIL- Рік тому +4

    Whoa intel really improved battery life
    They literally switched places 😅

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому +1

      Idle power consumption of this 5nm desktop chiplet cpu used hear is more. 4nm 8 core regular ryzen processors have better efficiency than last gen 7nm and 6nm ryzen.

  • @ryanvtec3885
    @ryanvtec3885 10 місяців тому +2

    wow 16 full cores in a laptop and 32 threads wild

  • @LeoDDJ
    @LeoDDJ Рік тому +2

    Other hypothesis: AMD does better at 4K, because of the higher efficiency. So a bit more thermal headroom is available for the GPU to stretch its legs.

  • @otozinclus3593
    @otozinclus3593 Рік тому +1

    11:37 I think I have an explanation:
    As you stated before, the 7945hx is a bit more efficient. So maybe it drawing less power improves thermals or powersupply for the GPU?

  • @PendiemMV
    @PendiemMV 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks information brother 🙏🏻😊

  • @themadears
    @themadears Рік тому +1

    What about 13900hx? Much difference?

  • @architectpiperr4918
    @architectpiperr4918 3 місяці тому +1

    So in a nutshell if you're into rendering or gaming go for AMD... If you're into graphics design and video editing go for Intel

  • @Osama-wj5gn
    @Osama-wj5gn Рік тому +1

    1:25
    Intel at 150W equals Ryzen at 75W. For a laptop, you don't want to run your CPU at 150W, as that's a laptop not a toaster!
    I'd limit the TDP at 75W for the CPU or even 65W.

  • @user-dz3ph7dl4m
    @user-dz3ph7dl4m Рік тому +1

    A lot of work done on this one. great work.

  • @adibayoub6048
    @adibayoub6048 Рік тому +7

    So basically, for these 2 laptops:
    if buyers are mostly doing 3D rendering on the go - AMD
    if buyers are mostly doing heavy video editing - INTEL
    Great to see consumers are getting options on which one to buy... although I myself can't afford to buy neither of these 2 laptops... LOL

    • @lelouchabrilvelda1794
      @lelouchabrilvelda1794 Рік тому +4

      In DavinCi resolve amd and intel are the same adobe is so bias that why i dont use it.

  • @RelentlessSavageryGaming
    @RelentlessSavageryGaming 7 місяців тому

    Phenomenal video per usual and much appreciated! In the process of upgrading in the next few days. Been bouncing between the Scar 16,17,18. I wish I had somewhere local to see them in person but unfortunately do not.

  • @michaelan9688
    @michaelan9688 Рік тому +4

    Nice power scaling graph

  • @n0t_rogue
    @n0t_rogue Рік тому +2

    I think this time AMD focused on performance rather than efficiency

  • @itzarrandom6245
    @itzarrandom6245 Рік тому +3

    Competition looks great for buyers this generation! GPUs... eh

  • @juan5h
    @juan5h Рік тому +2

    Great video!

  • @eltk1785
    @eltk1785 Рік тому +1

    Holy, look at that 65W limit Cinebench difference between 7945HX and i9-13980HX. Intel got kind of exposed here. Adding more E-Cores to inflate benchmarks and claiming at the same time they improve efficency did not work well here.

  • @BASTIKS_I6
    @BASTIKS_I6 Рік тому +1

    Please make a comparison of these laptops, and tell me which one is best to take, which one would you take?

  • @mikeraptorh6888
    @mikeraptorh6888 Рік тому +1

    i got i9 13980hx with 4070 for 2444 dollars was it worth it?

  • @marioweinberger9478
    @marioweinberger9478 Рік тому +1

    Great comparison, thank you! Would it also be possible to include a game like Anno 1800 in future comparisons? Since this game really benefits from fast CPUs and especially Cache, it would be great to see the difference in the processors performance.

  • @poemontyperacer
    @poemontyperacer Рік тому +7

    Thanks for your work jarrod!

  • @nehalmathew7510
    @nehalmathew7510 Рік тому +1

    Ty for the review

  • @chaitanyapahl
    @chaitanyapahl Рік тому +1

    Damn Jarrod ur videos are great keep it up 😎

  • @danman1287
    @danman1287 Рік тому +4

    In tech u always go cheaper... I don't need an expensive GPU so I would go with strix g17

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 Рік тому

      Not cheaper, but you mean whichever has the best value for its money👍

    • @tekeagle2136
      @tekeagle2136 Рік тому

      I do not recommend going cheap with tech, probably go mid-range. Believe me. I have had a $100 phone and doing anything (even checking my e-mail) took minutes to do. With laptops, at least $1,000 is required.

    • @danman1287
      @danman1287 Рік тому

      @@tekeagle2136 what r u talking about monkey. I wrote strix g17

    • @danman1287
      @danman1287 Рік тому

      @@randy89555 right... Buy for what u really need... Goes a long way... It turns out strix g17 is cheaper than it's i9 peers and go lower on GPU (for me I am not a gamer). If they paired AMD 7945hx w 3060 3070 I take it.

  • @carlosalvarez8076
    @carlosalvarez8076 Рік тому +2

    What AMD can do with 35W, Intel matched it with 50, and What AMD can do with 45, Intel matched it with 75. AMD is Really efficient now. Imagine that in games, you can give way more power to the GPU. Outstanding from AMD.

  • @absaglam
    @absaglam Рік тому +1

    Thank you. You are always my favorite.

  • @jointy
    @jointy Рік тому +4

    You should allow Intel the fast ram because they support it. It's like turning off some Intel cores to make it fair.....

    • @jonnypena7651
      @jonnypena7651 Рік тому

      400mhz won't make no even 1% difference.

    • @jointy
      @jointy Рік тому

      @@jonnypena7651 tell we test, we don't know. Also, then why swap it out then. If it can use more it should be allowed.

    • @VideogamesAsArt
      @VideogamesAsArt Рік тому

      In desktops, where you buy the RAM yourself, for sure. But a laptop that already comes with RAM? That is the fault of the laptop manufacturers, they can't expect us to be changing the sticks to maximise performance. Whatever machine is better in its stock configuration is what wins.
      Also, on the other hand, faster RAM has an effect on gaming more than anything else, since multithreaded applications don't benefit from memory bandwidth so much. And in gaming is where intel was already most competitive, if not better.

    • @jointy
      @jointy Рік тому

      He changed it for the video

  • @Games_and_Tech
    @Games_and_Tech Рік тому +3

    The AMD CPU is better in multicore with a worst cooler? Because at the same wattage it always has worst temperatures... too bad intel

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 Рік тому

      All this effort and can't beat a single core performance? Too bad, AMD. 90% of the routine of 75% of all users requires single core performance. Killing battery life for this???

    • @makeurmomproud
      @makeurmomproud Рік тому +2

      ​​@@randy89555 try AI coding, running multiple VMs with your single core performance 😂
      And if you're in the market for a desktop replacement why would you care about battery life?

    • @Games_and_Tech
      @Games_and_Tech Рік тому

      @@makeurmomproud leave him, intel is for monkeys these days, and no matter what you can't talk to them

  • @pweddy1
    @pweddy1 Рік тому +1

    The reality is for most users the grossly multithreaded applications are meaningless.
    I love me Cinebench benchmarks, but the single threaded performance is really more reflective of my actual day to day workloads.

  • @intraspec
    @intraspec Рік тому +1

    16 (high-performance) Cores in a Laptop CPU. That's crazy

  • @rajis92
    @rajis92 Рік тому +1

    It's amazing how the multicore rendering performance of a laptop CPU is in touching distance of a 32 core/64 thread Threadripper 3970x that uses 280W

  • @MogRules01
    @MogRules01 Рік тому +2

    Competition is good. Intel was king of the hill for WAY to long and it only led to stagnation and minimal to no improvements for years. I am glad to see them trading back and forth again.
    That being said, my 13900HX can hit 32k in Cinebench, and I have seen some get up to 35k, so the model of laptop seems to REALLY affect this.

    • @greebj
      @greebj Рік тому +1

      peak scores of >37K on the Legion 7 Pro and Mech GP17 with tuned RAM pulling like 180W. 7945HX in these Asuss units on sale isn't good enough when it comes to pure CPU benching. Waiting for a Legion 7 Pro with a 7945HX sitting under a vapour chamber!

  • @IdeasAreBulletproof
    @IdeasAreBulletproof Рік тому +2

    We just need More AMD chips early on so suppliers can always have two options for their Laptops, but Instead AMD isn't prioritize on their Laptops so we don't get as many and they are all sold out, and being an Intel user, I just want to Try AMD again cuz I just want to Experience the Ryzen and see If I have another Choice that I can buy, I don't mind Buying intel their Products are good and AMD sure has woken them Up from their stagnant Sleep.
    However ASUS won't be getting my Money, a company named Framework is more likely too (More Repairable and Upgradable GPU) and should be the standard if you buy new. (Buying older laptops if you buy used) + I don't have to worry about problems when I run Linux and I want to do a

  • @shawn5106
    @shawn5106 Рік тому +1

    Laptops can't justify CPU or GPU performance properly. You have to use the same hardware for both only then it's a fair comparison.

  • @Clips_IPY
    @Clips_IPY Рік тому +1

    what you advice me to buy LEGION 5I PRO 2023 4060 OR ASUS ROG STRIX G16 RTX 4060 PLEASE ANSWER I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS ❤❤❤❤

    • @d5811
      @d5811 3 місяці тому

      Legion is better

  • @kmtaslimulhasan
    @kmtaslimulhasan Рік тому

    Appreciate your effort. Earned a subscriber.... Keep it up❤

  • @santiniperico8627
    @santiniperico8627 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting as always, thanks JT

  • @unknownmonkey8661
    @unknownmonkey8661 Рік тому +2

    Ordered the 17 for $800 less than the 18 with the same specs. Also seems like 17 has less or no coil whine compared to 18 as some say. Will see when it arrives in a day or two

    • @vivek1393
      @vivek1393 Рік тому

      Have you experienced any coil whine yet?

  • @danutzzz1990
    @danutzzz1990 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for this review i made up my mind thanks to it. I bought the Intel version rog 18, but with nvidia 4070. I work a lot in Corel Draw and with Adobe Suite.

  • @m7md_al3teegi40
    @m7md_al3teegi40 Рік тому +1

    moral of the story get anyone they are all good

  • @wawaweewa9159
    @wawaweewa9159 Рік тому +1

    How tf is 2 graphic cores using more power for video playback, did you bother investigating? Is it high cpu idle while paying video thats esting up battery??

  • @mediocreape
    @mediocreape Рік тому +3

    thank you for putting this together, your work is appriciated.

  • @mono4968
    @mono4968 Рік тому +1

    I found for the scar 18 a deal at msrp in my country

  • @sakuyahuang7407
    @sakuyahuang7407 Рік тому

    Very Detail's Test!!! Thx !!!!

  • @k1dtw1st
    @k1dtw1st Рік тому +1

    Can you do a 2023 Ryzen 7 vs i7 comparison?

  • @Deathdemon65
    @Deathdemon65 Рік тому +1

    Still rocking a Ryzen 5 5500u laptop really good from amd power igpu cpu everything very well balanced great job AMD

  • @febriosetiawan
    @febriosetiawan 3 місяці тому

    For those who are looking for a laptop for a daily light-needs and haven't decided between these 2 processors. Please just pick the cheapest price among these.

  • @RussianPlus
    @RussianPlus Рік тому +1

    AMD ahead of Intel

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 Рік тому +2

    I think in gaming you're seeing the difference between older game engines and newer game engines, especially UE5 which puts a decent workload on the CPU and lumen and nanite in particular, and probably at greater resolutions it's a bigger workload on the CPU and GPU BOTH. So, the old view of greater resolution always means more work on the GPU, so much so that the CPU doesn't matter just isn't true anymore. It's not true for desktop now as the 4090 is showing. The CPU is making more difference.
    In fact even NOW there isn't a CPU that exists that can keep up with the 4090 in all situations, even at 2K and 4K. In some games you're not hitting a GPU bottleneck, but you are with CPUs paired with the 4090.

  • @DaeguKyle
    @DaeguKyle 5 місяців тому

    Your videos are excellent assessments and just what I was looking for. I enjoy the lack of hyperbole.

  • @XBnPC
    @XBnPC Рік тому +1

    Man, your content is just amazing. It highlights the best of each product and is as thorough and non-biased of a run down as I've ever seen. Fantastic job 👏 Ty

  • @sushimshah2896
    @sushimshah2896 Рік тому +4

    Can't wait for the *7840U* review as well, that's a proper M2 killer!

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 Рік тому +2

      Apple had its free lunch by getting the first 5nm chips first. Now that the heavyweights got to the same manufacturing node, Apple is no longer so shiny. Still have to give it to them, launching it so early is a feat. And even with AMD being better, it's not massively so, the M chips are genuinely good.

    • @steph_on_yt
      @steph_on_yt Рік тому +1

      AMD and Intel chips still need to sort out idle efficiency. Apple Silicon really shines when just browsing the web and doing light tasks; hitting 10-12 hours of real-world usage is honestly so effortless that it feels almost magical.

    • @yellowflash511
      @yellowflash511 Рік тому

      ​@@steph_on_yt some Ryzen 6000 laptops already hit those numbers with light usage. My Omen 16 AE gets about 8 hours but it's a full fledged gaming laptop while Zephyrus g14 does 10 hours and Zenbook, ThinkPad etc do 12 hours. Just depends on the type of laptop and optimization

    • @VideogamesAsArt
      @VideogamesAsArt Рік тому +2

      sadly, jarrod only seems to test laptops with dedicated GPUs. I wish he paid more attention to non-gaming laptops too, I for example don't really want dGPUs in my laptops...

    • @defnotatroll
      @defnotatroll Рік тому +1

      ​@@VideogamesAsArt you know any UA-camrs that would test a 7840U laptop? I know Hardware Canucks probably will

  • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
    @DragonOfTheMortalKombat Рік тому +1

    Waiting for this for a long time.

  • @Fontouraf22
    @Fontouraf22 Рік тому

    thank you for the great vid Professor Snape.

  • @Majthoub
    @Majthoub Рік тому

    How long would the battery last if the laptop was using 300W 💀

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      The battery wouldn't be able to expend that much power consistently

  • @psiko3860
    @psiko3860 Рік тому +1

    RIP my rx 6600 which has almost the same fps on the 2 presser on the gpu test

  • @karlbjorn1831
    @karlbjorn1831 Рік тому

    great video thank you so much

  • @romaniachin6751
    @romaniachin6751 6 місяців тому

    Perfect review, tnx a lot.

  • @Atlink
    @Atlink 5 місяців тому

    From what I see, these are two perfectly good processors that 99.9% of people wouldn't notice a difference with when performing everyday tasks.

  • @YoreHistory
    @YoreHistory Рік тому

    AMON AMARTH SHIRT...alone worth watching the video seeing you wear that :) Great video, great band, great reviewer. Thanks Jarrod! cheers m8!