Dynaudio Core 47 - AES 2019
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2019
- 7" 3-way Powered Studio Monitor, tri-amped for a total of 1,150 watts (500W + 500W + 150W) of amplification
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"that's for the reggae system" 😂😂😂
I did like the reggae system comment!
When I have space I do want a massive low end section for the Dub productions.
I find a system like this so easy to get the bas and sub just right.
You have to get it so right to work.
I've done productions before for Dub and hit a system and heard nothing but bass.. pull it down and it was then dull and flat.... such micro moves to get bass heavy songs to play right on big bass focused systems
Damn I need that stuff... Yummerz
So I've got these, psi m-17 and MUM 6's on my list to test for my setup...
Really hope it's these as the sub will work well and the digital input will be for stereo and analog mono for the Atmos and make it a very simple setup
Dynaudio Core 47 Right; Active 3-Way Studio Monitor; Woofer: 7", Midrange 4", Tweeter 1"; Amp: 500 Watts Woofer and Midrange, 150 Watts Tweeter;
price?
@1:21 : 2500 ($ probably) ...
Alexsandr Warzar
Why don't they give the power consumption of these in their specs? Is it because the 1050W figure is complete BS?
@Bogdan Serban NIce math bro. It's 1150 total watts, which he also states clearly in the video (or you could calculate yourself if you could do basic math). it's very clearly listed in the specs on the website. Why don't you learn how to add, read, and listen.
@@yungpepe watts are a measure of electrical power. If you get 1150W out, you need to get 1150W in plus losses. Simple math, go figure it out.
@@BogdanSerban The power the speaker consumes is a function of the volume level that the amplifier is set at, and has nothing to do with the speaker rating. Typically the 1150w rating is the peak power the speaker can deliver but under idle conditions or soft sound output, it consumes much much less. Usually the efficiency of newer Class D amplifiers (which these Core 47 use) is about 85% efficient. So, if the sound output is produced by 10W of power the amplifier is only drawing about 11.5W. Do your research next time and stop being ignorant.
@@costinvaly1 Hey Professor, if I wanted to power these babies at say 103 to 105db peak output for 3 hours, what size lithium pack would I need? Was thinking one of these for each speaker. 1000 watt, 1002WH. What is your oppinion? Thanks much, you sound very intelligent!🙏🙏🙏
Too much, about right, or not enough.
@costinvaly1 www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B083KBKJ8Q/ref=psdcmw_348967011_t1_B07T8YV9WS#immersive-view_1594441220966
1050 watts!! That is wildly inefficient. Geithain 901k go down to 25hz and 122dB at as low as 100hz. All this at 300W. And of course coaxial point source driver arrangement and cardioid bass response! Small drivers + un-ported cabinets will always require a 1000W amp to drive them. It's such a bizarre choice for a full range speaker.
Don't get me wrong it's great to see Dynaudio finally putting quality amplifiers in their speakers after getting by with shit for so long while pretending they put out quality but there are some weird design choices here. I don't want 2000W total power requirements. That's insane. And I especially don't want them when I can have a better performance at as low as 300W consumption if I go with bigger drivers type speakers like the Geithain. PMC do this too and I wish they'd stop. The laws of physics are very clear on this. If you want a flat low end that's distortion free at higher levels while also not requiring a small power plant to run them your driver needs to be 15" at a minimum. And when you consider how much these cost when you start stacking you're better off with something like the Geithain 901k.
@UCjVhK6l4xAhQfXXn0cEHxGQ Or you can just fit the speaker with a big driver. That's the other approach. A 16" driver doesn't need a thousand watts to avoid compression and distortion. You need maybe 300w tops. A 9" driver needs a big box and lots of power.
@@Screaming-Trees you're not the one manufacturing/designing speakers in the industry, so why bother with your comment? The power is there to provide the output headroom when more is needed out of a super compact/room size friendly studio monitor. It's the size of the speaker and its drivers that dictated the amp requirements and inner specs. 901k is such an off comparison candidate in this case, yeah i know it may use a less powerful amp with a higher spl result, but the speaker is almost twice as large as the Core 47. You're very ignorant, looking just into your own personal and subjective design taste and needs, not understanding the fact that the speaker in the video has been designed with the space/room-friendly factor in mind which many of them musicians require nowadays (i was in that case as well).
Also just because the Core 47 is rated at a peak power of 1150w that doesn't mean the speaker will consume nor requires 1150w at all times 24/7. Consumption is directly proportional to the output volume with an efficiency rating of around ~85% (class D amps).
@@costinvaly1 "Just because the speaker is rated at 1150 watts it doesn't mean it will consume that"- Really?! Wow that's some insight right there. Consumption is directly proportional to the output volume is it? That's some obvious shit right there mate. Never would have thought of it myself. Thanks.
Regarding the rest of it I guess you skipped the introduction to physics class?
It's a total con to say I'm selling e a small speaker that's designed to deliver below 40hz in a small room. Room friendly haha. Look how long is a 30hz wave? About 9 meters or so (38 feet). That's the absolutely minimum room size you need if you want to work with content around 30hz. If you go lower, say 20hz, you need a room that's about 17 meters long. So wtf are we talking about here?
What room friendly? These are just some basic facts that you'll have to consider if you want a workable response on the low end. So somebody comes along and says I'll sell you a small speaker that will deliver on the low end in your tiny room, which is woefully inadequate to handle it, and you just lap it up?
If you want to have any hope of accuracy below 40hz you need a very large room. And at that point you're no longer space challenged so the whole premise of your argument, room friendly speakers etc etc, dissolves. It's a bunch of bullshit. It isn't a variable that needs to be considered at all. It's a fictional market that can never deliver on its promise. You completely bought into the marketing bullshit. It's a con. But I'm the "ignorant" one here. Right.
@@Screaming-Trees Depends on where we're coming from. "Room" also means the amount of relative space you have in front of you, on your desk, around your video monitor, hardware, etc. Why would you place 2 huge speakers around your (4k in my case) video monitor that leaves no space around them nor from their position to the nearest bass traps. Of course you need the room lenght of 17m long when you work with 20hz, but that ONLY applies IF the room is NOT treated. And when i say treated i mean the actual walls to have built in bass absorbtion from the ground up based on its design and core concept (like most high end recording/mastering studios), if you'd work in such industry you wouldn't bother to find validation in the YT comment section. You really don't understand the fact that some pro's need small sized monitors in their broadcasting trucks that can be vesa mounted (also the case of Core 47 which again you ignored), mobile studios specialized in field recordings, etc. that can act like a big speaker without taking the space of a big speaker. You mate need to join their industry, do the exact same work every day having the same routine and you'll see how your point of view turns 180 degrees. Subjectivity sounds like a disorder on some people nowadays.
@@costinvaly1 You need 20hz, 1150 watts per side, monitoring in a field recording/broadcasting truck? What published broadcasting standards are we talking about here?
We're going to talk about room design and acoustics now?
You can treat your room till you're blue in the face and it still won't matter given your premise. You can't negate basics physics. Treatment will never be able to compensate for room size when it comes to low end frequencies. At the minimum you need a room that's ten meters long and six meters wide if you want to work at 30hz. That's just the start and it of course implies design and treatment. In no way does does this only apply if your room is untreated as you suggest.
You entire premise, i.e. "this is for 20hz monitoring where room space is a factor hence you need a small speaker" is faulty. Because you can't monitor below 40hz in a small room. You'll not be able to consistently get it right on an industrial scale (no matter how much you wish it or how much treatment you throw at the problem). Hence my point this market is pure fiction. It doesn't exist nor can it exist.
You ever been to a serious mastering studio that didn't have large monitors in a large, designed and treated, room? There is a reason they don't exist; it's basic physics.
Validation? Hey, you replied to an old comment of mine not the other way around. Did you really need to do that if you were so busy working in the aforementioned industry? Pointing out that the premise is a con is of course about about validation.
i call this bs
what makes you say that?
@@OSCOMusic Frequency response (- 6 dB): 37 Hz, Frequency response (+/- 3 dB): 44 Hz . it will do 51hz at 0 db. that might be correct. not 37 hz. And than he talks about power like it's RMS 3kW. Even then it's not that much impressive. its like measuring dicks.
@@666chege Yeah true. I hear these monitors are pretty good though. And they should be if they are £5k a pair. I wouldn't go for these if you need a sub with them. May as well go for nearfield 3 way genelecs and a sub for that price.
@B B im not saying that product is bad.