Best PC Controllers in 2024! | 20 Tried and Tested
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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Dive into the ultimate best PC game controllers showdown! With 20 contenders battling it out, our video guides you through the top options, the cheap options, the powerful-most options. Helping you find the perfect companion for your gaming adventures. Get ready to upgrade and dominate the game!
Buying Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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/ What is polling rate?
/ Which is the best controller for PC?
/ How much should I pay for a controller?
Product(s) from Video (Amazon except if stated otherwise):
geni.us/MfN5 - 8BitDo Pro 2
geni.us/p0jI6X - 8BitDo Ultimate 2.4GHz /w BT
geni.us/F5sqh - Amazon Luna Controller
geni.us/fXLVR - EasySMX 9124
geni.us/N6Guhx - EasySMX 9124 Pro (EasySMX Website)
geni.us/cjsB - EasySMX X10 Mechanic
geni.us/GKs6 - Flydigi Apex 4
geni.us/9CHMXy - Flydigi Apex 4 (AliExpress)
geni.us/EXCxszm - GameSir Nova
geni.us/ZSAb4H - GameSir Nova Lite
geni.us/X7qBAu - GuliKit KK2 Pro
geni.us/KE6SQ - GuliKit KK3 Max
geni.us/Q8Z11 - Manba One
geni.us/vsuN5gn - Nintendo Switch Pro Controller
geni.us/h2uME - PB Tails Crush (PB Tails Website)
geni.us/H7vzzb - Sony Dualsense
geni.us/ZHmDsXv - Sony Dualsense Edge
geni.us/aKBXQY - Stadia Controller
geni.us/MIK17h - Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra
geni.us/SsJQQTR - Xbox Series Controller
geni.us/GlXEZw - Xbox Series Elite Series 2
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📖 Chapters
00:00 20 Controllers
01:00 Latency, Polling Rate
04:25 Testing Setup
06:02 Stability and Jitter
08:53 Price Per Performance (Per Category)
17:12 Roundness Indicator
18:55 Polling Efficiency Indicator (Per Category)
33:15 About that one controller's price
36:18 Buying Guide Concluded - Ігри
Great video, however i feel you could've explained polling rate better, so if anyone is still lost, listen up. Say you had a 1Hz polling rate. That means once a seccond, the controller would report back to your computer what you pressed within that 1 seccond. The higher your polling rate is, the more frequently your controller reports back to your computer what you input. This kinda indirectly reduces lag the higher your polling rate is. Hope this helped, and great video nonetheless!
Sorry about that and thanks for the assist, greatly appreciated!
Everything over 1k hz polling rate is useless, 4 example 8k hz from ps5 Controller just shows 8times the same latency so its placebo and 8times more "work" for your PC.
Thanks for everything friend, I really appreciate your efforts in those videos 😊 , I was just wondering if the Nova lite still runs good after a month of use?
Thank you, your words mean a lot to me! Yes, it works absolutely fine, I fact I got another one because I had the white (I used it in my review) and wanted the blue one too (seen in this video). Great product really!
I have a question. My Gamesir Nova will be arriving in few days, and i will be just playing it mostly on PC games. What's the standard polling rate of it on PC? Is it 125hz or 500hz?
So wired on the PC mode, it does go up to 500hz. On Switch mode, 125hz. In other words, just make sure to always connect in X-input and you'll be fine. Cheers!
Hi, thank you for this video, u did an insane work and help me very much !
U deserve more viewers, i hope many will come watch !
This means so much, I'm happy to put in the work, I just hope that UA-cam finds people to share it to. Thanks greatly, this makes my day!
This very helpful. Thank you!
Happy that it was, thanks and if you have questions for me, don't hesitate! Cheers :)
Great guide, thanks man 👍
Glad you enjoyed, thanks!
Excellent Video. This is the type of information I was looking for. Thank you !!
Great to hear and thank you greatly for watching AND commenting! 😊
Hi, if you compare between Gamesir T4 Cyclone Pro and Flydigi Vader 3 Pro, which controller is better for pc and emulator gamer?
So unfortunately, I do not own any of these two controllers but I did study them for my own knowledge. Vader 3 Pro is the better option, which the Vader 3 Pro is basically the Apex 4 minus the screen and the adaptive triggers. Better D-pad too but the T4 Cyclone Pro is particularly amazing, just tailored a bit more around value than the "feature rich" approach. In this instance, I'd personally go Vader 3 Pro for sure. Cheers!
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A big hug from Spain.
There's a special feeling when you know that the work helped people, from all around the world too! Wow, thanks this comment make my day, if not my week!!
Just crazy the Gamesir Nova. Hope works right for mi pc and games 😁👍
Hello, aside from flydigi 4 and xbox elite 2, are there other controllers that can be map or configure with keyboard keys? thank you so much!
I didn’t test particularly but safe to say that any controller without PC software can’t do that and even the very few that do, say Turtle Beach, do not support that feature. I would think Dualsense might have a third party software to do that? Sorry I don’t have a better answer but I think you already named the two that do.
@@GameTechTalk thank you so much!
hi, could you help me ? I still play with my xbox 360 controller on PC and I want to change it, I only play RPGs and action games (god of war, marvel spiderman, final fantasy, nier automata etc), nothing competitive/fps, do you recommend an xbox core controller or another one ? I have heard very good things about apex 4 and vader 3 pro (although on the vader 3 pro I don't like the extra buttons)
Quite frankly, you seem to have pretty standard needs out of a controller and no specific ones for all the extra fluff. That is why my recommendation is none of the products you mentioned but rather, go with the Nova Lite. You would be shocked at how good (yet regular) that it is. It comes with a dongle, it has no extra buttons but seemingly you don't need it. It's just a very humble, and stupidly amazing quality for the price, game controller. It outperforms a plethora of other ones on the market. If you don't care for analog triggers, I'd recommend the Nova because that would then give you HD rumble and could be a fun thing to experience in your games.
I have a 2-in-1 review of both controllers on my channel, that should be a great assistant for you to see if they are products for you!
Edit: Just to clarify, the Apex 4 and Vader 3 Pro are phenomenal, but they do sound like overkill for what your needs are, you won't really have much benefits past just being good reliable products but their prices include a whole lot more.
Amazing video! This is very helpful. I just finished building my first gaming PC and paired it with a nice OLED 144hz TV. My use case is casual gaming from the couch and occasionally some fps gamig (mainly Warzone). My budget is up to 100usd. Can you give me any recommendations? Greetings from Colombia!! And thanks again for the review
You know how to live my guy! OLED 144hz with a new PC? That's gonna to do it for sure! Without a doubt, go Apex 4. You come across as someone that wants an experience and yes, you will cap that budget to the penny but I assure you, it'll be worth every single one of them to complete that setup! Cheers and thanks for engaging! :)
Great video! I wanted to ask you something: basically I would like to buy a controller and, in the beginning, I was thinking to buy the flydigi vader 3 pro but in my country is not available if not for at least 80€ which is too much for me since i'm more a mouse and keyboard player and i use the controller only for some games like fifa or souls like. So i wanted to ask you which are the best controllers for me that do not cost too much but, at the same time, they are not entirely cheap so to avoid "dead zones", good hall effect thumbsticks, wireless etc.
I did not make this up in the video. Go GameSir Nova Lite, it is still since making this video, the absolutely best "bang for your buck" option there is. You won't break the bank, you won't feel like you gimped out, and you also won't get lost in the superfluous that some more elite controllers sometimes have.
Hi bro, great video. i have a question. Does the adjustable analog stick tension on xbox elite 2 affect the performance parameters you tested? Did you experiment with adjusting the stick tension during your evaluations, and if so, how did it impact the results?
Thanks 😊 I did not, stick tensions are a physical modification. When talking polling rate and latency, it is all digital readings. As such, stick tension won't affect these parameters. It might affect the user's precision, which is the intention. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk ah thanks. Appreciate it. Would you say the flydigi apex 4 is the best high end (lets say above 60 bucks) controller available. I was thinking to buy the og (elite series 2 or dualsense edge) but after your review my perception changed. Whats your take?
@abyanshiddiiq4667 If you need a PS5 AND PC controller? I'd go Dualsense Edge if price is not a concern.
If you need a PC controller primarily, I'd go Flydigi Apex 4 and probably grab a kit with the dock. Keep in mind none of these controllers work on Xbox Series consoles. The Elite 2 controller is really only decent if you want an Xbox Series controller, not bad for it's hardware modding capabilities but for raw performancd, it's far behind the other two.
Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk thanks for the insight bro. Really appreciate it
Would the gamesir nova be good for pc gaming and performance or would the lite had been a better option. Cause i just got the gamesir nova .
They are both as good in terms of performance, you just trade some things, Nova has RGB and HD Rumble. Nova Lite has analog triggers and an included dongle. I wouldn’t stress too much about it, especially if playing wired, as long as those triggers don’t bother you. Cheers!
Hey man great vid! I mainly game on my new ipad on remote play and stuff when I travel. So I am only connected via Bluetooth. Would you still suggest I should buy a apex 4 or would you go with a cheaper one? Thanks in advance.
Thanks! So this answer might surprise you, I'll explain. I would recommend getting a PS5 Dualsense. Basically and to keep it short, Apple's MFi blocks a bunch of controllers, yes you can use the Apex 4 on your iPad but you can only do so using Bluetooth. Xbox and Switch also won't work wired.
So if ever you want an option that you can utilize wired AND bluetooth, you are considerably more limited. The Dualsense is one of the few controllers that you will be able to successfully use both with bluetooth or wired if you don't have battery left or if you just want a more steady connection to not have input lag, or not have to deal with radio signal issues. I hope this helps, cheers!
@@GameTechTalk definetly a surprise but I understand. Just so I get it 100%, if I only play via bluetooth it doesn’t matter which one I get cause they all pull the same right? Thanks again.
@@dzenisaga7610 No not quite ahahah! In fact, on bluetooth, Dualsense polls higher than any other controller on that list. Both Dualsense and Dualsense Edge can poll 1000hz on Bluetooth but the technology caps it at around 600hz. Most other controllers cap at 125hz on bluetooth. Despite that though, you still have more latency than wired cause it's Bluetooth.
All the polling discussed in this video is exclusively when talking wired, which the Dualsense Edge can do 1000hz, the Dualsense regular can do 250hz. It can be overclocked to 1000hz but I don't see how you would do that on iOS. If you want wired 1000hz on iOS the only way that I know of would be the Dualsense Edge or another controller that can spoof as a DS4 or Dualsense.
@@GameTechTalk Wow now I know everything I wanted to know hahah. Thank your for your help and knowledge. Looking forward wo your videos from now on.
Really nice, thorough work! I've got a Flydigi Vader 3 Pro that I picked up for $70 (Amazon price; Aliexpress sells it for $55) and I absolutely love it; I wonder how it would compare to the Apex 4 that you include here. Regardless, really impressed by the versatility and price of Flydigi controllers, and the D-Pad is weird (in terms of being super clicky - the buttons are, too - and oddly shaped) but I love actually using it. Being able to physically switch the triggers from digital to analog is also really cool, and something I'd never seen in any other controller.
Well first, thank you greatly! Second, I'm happy to say that I'm good on my production time so the Apex 4 video should release on the 20th. I'd love to hear your impressions of the controller and of my review of course if you do watch it. I left no stone unturned so that should be all the information you know to determine if it's worth getting. Thanks again!
Mega job bro, thanks!!!
Glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
Excellent breakdown! Can't overstate the importance of realizing the difference between self-reported polling rate versus actual input lag measured mechanically. Pulling rate has become a marketing scam for some I didn't put lag can be very high even with good polling.
Yeah it’s definitely the new « buzz word » for controllers. I’m not against it but I wanted the video to not only be about that. Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot!
I have a dualsense and I have overclocked it for half a year at this point, how do you get those numbers to test it overclocked at 1000 polling rate myself?
I warned during the beginning explanation that overclocking is a thing and that I have not used overclocking for these results at all. I also put a link to an app for people interested in trying for themselves.
Thanks for pointing out how great overclocking can be in the right conditions, as a PSA, results may vary.
@@GameTechTalk ye I watched the whole thing, I just want to know how you got the latency / jitter etc
@@iwantchocolate8017 It's an app called Gamepadla, pretty reliable!
@@GameTechTalk I ended up testing my overclocked Dualsense to 1000hz with gamepadia, here are the results in case you want to know:
Dualsense Overclocked to 1000Hz:
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Polling Rate Max.: 1000 Hz
Polling Rate Avg.: 994.77 Hz
Stability: 99.48%
=== Synthetic tests ===
Minimal latency: 1.0 ms
Average latency: 1.01 ms
Maximum latency: 2.0 ms
Jitter: 0.07 ms
I also use Ds4windows since the game I use my pad on, doesn't natively support dualsense, here are also the results of the emulated ds4:
Emulated DS4 - DS4 windows:
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Polling Rate Max.: 1000 Hz
Polling Rate Avg.: 991.64 Hz
Stability: 99.16%
=== Synthetic tests ===
Minimal latency: 1.0 ms
Average latency: 1.01 ms
Maximum latency: 2.0 ms
Jitter: 0.09 ms
I gotta say I am impressed on how good overclocking my dualsense turned out to be, it even beats the dualsense edge (maybe overclocking that one is even crazier)
Is the aliexpress apex 4 same latency and polling as amazon one?
Absolutely, it’s just priced differently for different markets
Hi! What budget controllers do you recommend for me since I mostly play games like Elden Ring and Dark Souls. It will also be my first time buying a controller for my PC.
If you number one goal is best bang for you buck, go GameSir Nova Lite. You can't go wrong and it's pennies and change. Plus, it comes with a dongle for nice wireless solution if your PC doesn't have a bluetooth antenna (still use the dongle, it's better).
@@GameTechTalk love the response and thank you!
how much can nova lite stay ? for daily use
Depends, for example if rumble motors are active but they're saying approximately 10 hours on a full charge which takes about two hours to charge.
Yoooo! Underrated AF channel ! Quality stuff!
Also, I think you should give much more credit to the Hall Effect featured controllers. Its revolutionary.
I'm sick of my Xbox and PlayStation controllers dying after 6-9 months... They don't deserve that much praise for the scummy planned obsolescence.
Funny you should say that, I have in my production timeline another video that will consider features while leaning less on raw "performance". I don't have exact details yet but hopefully, that video will look at a more "jack of all trades" kind of approach to these controllers (and it will feature a bit more too). Cheers and thanks for the kind words!
@@GameTechTalk Looking forward for this ! Keep up the good work, sir !
Yeah I used to think third party controllers suck but then I got sick of drift in my PS and xbox ones.. Now I just consider controllers with the hall effect thing. I am waiting for my apex 4 now..
Consider some kind of dpad test, I play alot of old resident evil games and PS1 games, speed runs etc and ive been looking for a decent dpad for a long time. It would be great to also have a controller that is good all round. Not to mention fighting games which you need a decent d pad for. Maybe a metric you could use is smushy vs clicky and accuracy
Great suggestion, I'm definitely looking to make more videos like these and I'll keep your suggestion as one to dive deeper in, thank you, any more great ideas like that? 🤗
what do you think is the best controller here that works on pc ns and android
I'd go Flydigi Apex 4 if money is no objection. For a good value, I'd probably go EasySMX X10 or GameSir Nova if you don't care for z-axis triggers (throttle/brake L2 and R2).
Would you say digi apex 4 is better then Vader pro. I’m trying to get a great controller for pc
They are both great in their own rights but if I could summarize in a sentence, I’d say the Apex 4 is better for immersion and shooters where as the Vader Pro is better for platformers, metroidvanias and Soulslike. Cheers
I’m looking at apex 4 I’m from uk and can’t get it anywhere. Is Aliexpress a good/ reliable place to get one from? Amazon it’s $160 but on aliexpress it’s like £50 to £80?
Yeah they often get sold out, it's so stupid good. I have purchased many years over AliExpress. I'd say the reliability is as good as the product is. And that's the thing, shipping, customer service, it's usually a very positive experience (except that one time I describe in the video) but before that, I never had issues and I did have to connect with customer service a dozen of times over the years, never anything so drastic but they really do help and offer greater support for buyers. But yeah, the quality of the sellers and products is where it sometimes fall short.
With that said, the product, I'd totally get behind it, the Flydigi Apex 4 is a very VERY robust piece of hardware and it's obvious that the company has well-placed pride in their products and quality. Personally, I wouldn't pay the extra inflated tax on Amazon and get it on Ali because it's that much more affordable.
@@GameTechTalk do you have a link with the controller and a reliable seller??
@@GameTechTalk just picked myself one up! Just another question. The panels at the back of the controller, can they be used for either jumping or crouching on games like Cod? Like the Xbox elite controller??
@@iF3ARHD Yup they totally can, you map them the way you see fit. So if you want A for jump on one of them, go for it. Enjoy, it's a great product and would love to hear your feedback when you get it! :)
@@GameTechTalk thankyou for your reply! I look forward to using this competitively in warzone! I shall give an update when I get it Tuesday as I’m from uk it take a while for it to come
Damn great video thank you.I am going to buy GameSir Nova and they are the cheapest one in your list :D
It's a great buy, you won't regret it! Thanks for the kind words btw 😊
Great video but I am wondering why you didnt do any testing with the scuf envision as rated the number one pc controller.
I do not own one. I’m sure they have benefits to them but in the “in-depth” testing communities of gamepads, they do not have the best reputation. One for hardware easily breaking and second for having internal performance that are often sub-par and not overclockable. Google “Scuf polling rate”, you’ll see what I mean. I don’t think it’s the only thing that makes a good controller and I’d love to review their product in the future but I am not at the point that I would spend 250 on one and probably never will with solutions like Apex 4 on the market. Cheers!
Thank you for the reply the emvision pro is 179 right now. One thing I’ve had my eyes on then about is the swappable sticks, side buttons, the G buttons also makes for a very versatile controller.
Does gamesir nova lite support Xbox games without (x360 ce) ?
By "support Xbox games" you mean working on an xbox console right? (Just to be sure) If so, the answer is no it would not.
@GameTechTalk I mean if I PC game with Xbox layout like rocket league or blur . Do I need to use x360ce app to be supported. Because there is PC controllers with this future like . Redragon Saturn controller which have switcher
Is every thing the same with apex 4 for AE as the amazon one
Yup, not to worry, you’ll get the exact same top performing controller no matter where you get it from! Cheers
@@GameTechTalk thx
Helpful video, most of the product you reviewed is available in Indonesia market
Glad to hear that, which one are you thinking of picking up?
I will never not be amazed at just how good the GameSir Nova Lite is. It would be considered legitimately excellent even if it were priced a whole lot higher than $25 + free shipping. I don't know how they were able to hit that price point and still turn a profit. It makes me wonder about just how high are the profit margins on controllers from these other brands? Maybe instead of buying stock in defense contractors and maple syrup distilleries I should invest in game controller manufacturing? That's obviously where the real money is at.
I won my Nova Lite in GameSir's launch livestream about a month ago, so maybe I'm a little bit biased here. But, it's been great so far. It feels great in the hand. All the buttons and sticks are satisfying to use. Nothing feels cheap to me. The battery seems to last forever. Cosmetically speaking it looks like the purple Stadia controller and an Xbox controller had a baby. A very handsome baby, clearly. I'm happy to see that it placed Number One in this roundup.
Neither do I honestly but I had the exact same thought on margins. Both the Novas in fact, they are killer products for sure!
Hey man, the gamesir g7 se has a 1000hz polling rate. Might be something to add to the spreadsheet or worth checking out. Great info in the vid. Those stats really point out things like why the Apex 4 is double the price of the gulikitt kk3 even though they have similar stats
Trying the do the good work as they say, thanks for the suggestion and kind words! I did add the Kaleid to the document after having reviewed them, look at it this way, the Kaleid and G7se are from a performance standpoint the exact same product, identical. There are a few differences but those ones do not pertain to the performance itself, more to aesthetics and button styles.
Cheers! :)
@@GameTechTalk Wait so you can change the kalied to 1000hz too!? yoooo, that's insane!
@@GameTechTalk checking out the review now lol
I have thousands of bucks worth of purchases spanning many years back, i generally dont have any issues with sellers, but when i did i never had any issue with aliexpress, the only issue with the platform is that its slow, if you cant return a product you need to wait for 30days to repeal to then talk to support to wait for 1-20 days for the refund to go to your bank, and shipping is 6 days for the controller, but 80 usd shipped to france on a trusted company, ill take my chances.
That's why I personally have no problems buying on Ali, much like you I've bought thousands over the years, this one time was hopefully a one off and the issue was really not Ali, it was the vendor, I just couldn't get through to customer service somehow. As in I would literally reply and they said they would close the request number because I didn't respond... Like 4 times in a row. Anywho, I got it fixed through my bank.
can g7 se work with android via usbC hub?
I want to say with extremely high likeliness, yes it can. The one reason why it might not is if the phone/device you would like to use it on doesn't have the OTG USB-C protocol, it will not work but that, while not impossible, is super unlikely. If you can plug other devices just fine on that Android through USB-C, say a mouse, a keyboard, a 3.5mm adapter, a USB flash drive, it pretty much means you have OTG support after which, it's basically guaranteed that it will work. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk thakn you so much
This video encouraged me to purchase easysmx x10. Looking into it. People sleep on that controller. Incredible price for all the features.
I feel priviledged to have been the person to give you the data you needed to feel like you reached a place to make the decisions you were holding off on. Thanks for having taken the time to watch. Cheers!
Aliexpress is great, but like you said, warrant is forget about it.
I needed a Vid like this 😁👍
Heeyyyy!! It's been a while! Thanks, you put a smile on this gamer's face. If I helped one person, that's mission accomplished!
cool vid.
I'm currently using a Logitech F710.
Previous I used a F310. That I used for more than 15 years. Some opening up and cleaning and it worked again. the 710 I recently got connection issues with the dongle. I travel around a lot and taking that stuff with me. And the in and outs was after not even 2 years so much that the connection has issues.
you know the crazy thing. In old times. When I bought the 310. It had its own software to swap buttons with a freedom I don't see in any controller.
Only the very expensive Xbox pro controller has the ability of button freedom. I mean putting keyboard commands on the keys to increase the input or to use it for games that don't have controller support.
It's sad that the XBox controller I got had wobbly sticks.
For now I keep using my F710 as I at least can change button layout. And as the controller is battery driven I won't have the problems that is known to accu driven controllers. Switch them and they hold for months. just two stupid AA batteries.
Sony falls out for me as the controller becomes crippled on PC.
AliExpress...I buy shit on Ali. but I wouldn't buy Tech on Ali. My experiences with Ali is that you get the china market tech. Things that melt down by heat or even burn your house down. (USB adapters) Don't buy those.
In case of specified things like controllers, you usually don't get the "real" product. It's usually the sorted out shit. So you often have some issues. 30 bucks is my limit for anything I would buy on Ali. If that is shit. I throw it away. But everything else I want to send back and get a replacement.
Amazon is quite good with it's return policy.
Another thing that would cause me trouble are batteries. Lithium Ion Batteries are very sensible and when damaged they burn like hellfire. Buying a product from Ali with those inside...it's like smoking in bed. I like my life. I don't have a death wish. So no to that.
That PC crippling of the Dualsense seems to have disappeared, I was shocked the other day to see my adaptive triggers and rumble work even when wireless but truth be told, might be a software I installed at some point and forgot about but yeah, that was shocking as those features historically only worked when being wired.
And yeah, I catch your drift (no pun intended) when it comes to tech on Ali. I'm not opposed to your strategy, in fact, I think it's a smart one. It's just that sometimes, options are only available there, especially in the niche I cover on this channel. I gotta say, never owned the F310 or F710 that you mentioned but I might pick up a F710 for beeps n giggles in the future because just looking at it inspires me of an era of PC controller gaming, late 80s, early 90s kind of era, yet modernized to tackle the new games.
Thanks for engaging and bringing some pretty cool nuggets of wisdom and knowledge in there, love those comments!
best controller for me right now is T4 kaleid, with 27$ u got hall effect stick + trigger , mechanic face buttons and most important for me is 1000hz wired connect on PC, swith, android, IOS .... so u can tryhard fps game on every platform coz at 120fps and more u almost feel 0 latency at all !
If u try to lose then bluetooth connection is OK !
Lol that jab at bluetooth! Yeah GameSir sent the Kaleid for me to test and review so I'll be doing that a little later! Cheers :)
I'm from Brazil, and I noticed that you guys (from US and UE) are not used to buy from Aliexpress, but in Brazil We are very used to buy there, its like 2 or 3 times cheaper then buy inside country, but i have to say, The comunication is terrible, keep in my you have to buy from a confidence store, see if the store/product has a good review and lots of buyers. Its really important indicators.
Totally agree with everything you said! Completely unrelated, I love Bossa Nova, I don't understand the lyrics but it's one of my favorite music styles of all time! Got an artist to recommend?
I hope this video will be the one for me. I need a high polling rate so any xbox controller is not important for me. I play apex at 300 fps meaning I need a controller that has a polling rate that’s high enough to do frame perfect movement tech.
Important to also note PS4/5 controllers can easily be over clocked to 1000 while the Xbox boards don’t allow that
Yup Sony went hard with their controllers. However, I do prefer if not needing to overclock just because of variability with various host controllers and whatnot. So, did the video answer any of the questions you had? I hope so, cheers and thanks for watching!
@@GameTechTalk going to keep looking. Budget is about £200($250/€230) so it’s not the type of thing I just watch one video on. Got to make sure I get something I’m happy using for 3+ years
@@ReepsWasteOfTime I totally understand and respect that, well if ever you have any questions you need answered, let me know, always happy to help a fellow gamer! Cheers :)
Looking for a "good" controller is so hard any more cause what makes them "good" is a possibility of an edge you could have on someone else if they didn't pay to have those physical features. Like all i want is a controller that feels good and the macros on the back dont press down just from breathing on them 💀
(PlayStation just sucks at plug and play on pc)
How I wish the Dualsense would just be feature complete when using wireless, I hate that you have to be wired at all times with it. And you are right, at least outside of Steam (thanks to Neptune), the Dualsense compatibility on PC is often a hit and miss, I'm hoping this'll change with Sony becoming more and more invested in PC. Honestly, if you want a no brainer controller, I'd say Apex 4 is the king right now. The backpaddle buttons are not everyone's cup of tea, personally I like them, they don't press if not intended and I can flick my middle finger left or right to action each on each side but there is a paddle mod for people that prefer that.
If you have questions I can help with, don't hesitate, cheers!
@@GameTechTalk thanks for the heads up 🙌 just started looking and haven't seen anything on it yet myself.
Apex 4 pro, the best controller I've ever used, I have a few limited edition ones as well
That Assassin's Creed Edition though... I might have to splurge that dough to get it!
@@GameTechTalk I got the EVA edition and the normal one at the moment, but I have a collection of other flydigi, Eva2 and a Gundam 1 for the moment, I like to collect
I want to see the Apex 4 vs Victrix?
I came so close to buying one to run the comparison but I'll be honest, I've been feeling like I would do better to coast on content I have to make anyway and gain in notoriety for when larger brands want to open communications. It looks interesting but there are some caveats for me personally.
Apex 4 >>>>>>>
Pretty much!
Ong, stealth ultra and the newly vader 4 pro are a solid 2nd and 3rd tho
@@n64slayer Vader 4 Pro is on the way! Stay tuned for that one. Cheers ;)
I want a high Pulling rate with a good Dungle.
Flydigi Apex 4 / X10 Mechanic / KK3 Max
i used the flydigi apex 4 for 2 weeks on pc now after my dualsense got analog drift....it is the best controller i had tried...much better than dualsense..the weight, grip, button, battery and the looks
I still have appreciation for the Dualsense but I can totally agree with everything you're saying. How I wish the Apex 4 could be spoofed as a Dualsense to have the triggers behave just like on the Dualsense on Sony's games.
In chinese app taobao it’s only $50 usd
No envision pro?
Unfortunately, I do not own this product currently. Hopefully, whenever there'll be a version 2 of this guide, I'll have reviewed one by then.
@@GameTechTalk I took my stick drift riddled xbox controller out to the garden last night and smashed it with a hammer so i'm looking to get a new one right now. Any brand apart from microsoft! I'm thinking about buying the flydigi 4 which is a first for me to spend so much on a controller but i'd like paddles and to experience the hall sticks etc. Hopefully it lasts me a while!
@@TheDwarburton Do keep in mind the Flydigi Apex 4 will not work on Xbox with an adapter to convert it compatible. So I will assume that you game on PC and in the event that you do, the Apex 4 is a great pick! Just don't increase the tension all the way, apparently it's been known to cause premature failures as the mechanism breaks.
@@GameTechTalk Yeah I saw amazon reviews saying if you increase the tension too much it will snap and people are recommending to just keep the sticks loose. I am a PC player yes but unfortunate to say the Flydigi dont stock on UK amazon and i'd prefer not to pay shipping especially as I have Prime! Still on the hunt for a good deal on UK amazon sadly.
It's a shame too because the FLYDIGI Direwolf 2 PC has a really good deal on right now at £28 Which is £35!!
@@GameTechTalk Flydigi products arent very accessible in UK but ive decided on the Gulikit KK3 max!
wheres my gamesir g7 se 😅
I unfortunately do not own one of those but I've heard FANTASTIC things about it. Who knows, maybe I'll review it in the future but no current plans to do so.
Binbok ultra pro go buy one
I actually reviewed one of their joycons, good stuff, I might give the one you suggested a try at some point. Thanks for the suggestion!
Hi bro plzz gv me top 3 so i can decide 😅
Well with Vader 4 Pro having just been released, the top 3 might soon change. I unfortunately still do not have one with me to test so I'll give you this as top three:
Well rounded - Nova Lite
Best regardless of price - Dualsense Edge
Best all around - Apex 4
I hope this helps! :)
@@GameTechTalk thx a lot bro ☺
Controllers these days don't last 5 mins. The sticks on modern controllers are rubbish. You end up with the stick sinking down in the socket effecting the movement. The amount of controllers that have some kind of loose connection is staggering. I almost feel like giving up gaming.
Go kb+m my friend! I love controllers and they have their fair share of use in my gaming but for me, when it gets serious and camera movement is involved? I go kb+m. And the thing is, as much as we want to blame controllers, the landscape of gaming drastically changed too. Now, gaming is all about min-maxing, going meta and competing for platinum rankings. Controllers are getting beat up way more than they used to, the sweat plays are mastered art forms.
I'm not saying some products don't deserve to get a permanent residency in a recycling bin but to some extent, we also have to realize that the battering these things receive is nothing like when games had a couple platformers and a shooter or two with half of the other titles being JRPGs. Anyway, if you are a PC guy, which I am primarily, I'd recommend turning your interest towards a different method of gaming, you mind find a liking to it!
I bought Apex 4 for $90 along with a dockstation in Russia)))
That is a pretty good deal! Mind if I ask you where you got it? Was it a Russian based reseller or more like AliExpress? Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk I bought on the OZON marketplace. This is our Russian marketplace where the Chinese can trade directly without intermediaries.
@@GameTechTalk i bought it for $100 with dock and controller bag and mobile mount from aliexpress, there is now discount on it, i also bought with it analog stick replacement from the same seller.
U mean parasha
@@GameTechTalk Chinese
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