"The Quran Is Full Of Scientific Evidence For God" | Talk Heathen: Throwback
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Aristotle was studying embryos back then... Hence, Zeus exists.
The Greeks also proposed the earth was round long before these other religions caught up or even existed
Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
@@rs7656 That's a good one, Bruce.
@@rs7656 Weren’t they all?
Muhammed, peanut butter upon him
Allahu Snackbar
Mo HAM med
@@SecondaryHomunculus 🤣🤣🤣
Shallow Noms!
Wahakabulshitla
I was taught not to use cliches/idioms with people who aren’t from the US because they don’t always know the meaning behind certain phrases (horse before the carriage). In Mexico there is a phrase Throw me water, which I’m guessing people wouldn’t realize means Give me a hand. I’m saying this because I think foreign callers may get confused with some of the things y’all say.
When Americans are in a country that is not America, THEY are foreigners. 😊
Tbh, cart before horse is kind of easy to understand even if English isn’t ur native language
Is it the earth that orbits the sun, or is it the other way around? Wow.
My mother didn’t even know what a star was, and we live in the states, and I watched science stuff though out my childhood. I was honestly speechless, but then explained it to her. It was surreal.
@@manatwilight8434 Not as uncommon as you think. I know grown adults who say that stars are supernatural or angels. People who say men have one less rib and a woman has one extra.
From what I understand the koran was written, not by a culture, but in a culture that had access to most of that era’s science. The Library of Alexandria was in Egypt, Algebra, Alchemy. No god required.
Yep, they were basically the most educated people in the world, at the time. It was a hub for the sciences, art, etc. Nothing supernatural there at all.
They had access to some pretty surprising inventions too. Magnetics, steam powered machines. Mostly treated as novelties, or used in temples, etc. Not dark ages.
@@manatwilight8434 Steam power back then? I never think about it existing until the late 1700’s?
@@NoHateLikeChristianLovedate back to 400bc
The Christians had destroyed Alexander's library by then just saying
If by "scientific evidence" you mean "horrific messages" then i can agree
_"Glaube heißt Nicht-wissen-wollen, was wahr ist."_ [Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche]
(Faith means not wanting to know, what's true.)
HP Lovercraft mentioned nuclear energy and radiation before anyone else so his “gods” must be real according to this caller?
FYI that’s technically “true”.
All praise Cthulu.
H.G. Wells described a dogfight before the Wright brothers flew at Kittyhawk.
@@HatstandTuesday Well that means he’s got supernatural insight!
Luke: 'What will I find in there?'
Yoda: 'What you take in with you.'
Omar Khayyam said something similar in the Rubaiyat.
'Myself when young did eagerly frequent.
Doctor and Saint and heard great argument.
About it and about but in the end.
Came out the same door as in I went.
Funny story: Around when this clip was new my mon tried to make a xmas pudding for the first time. She also found a fun surprise in one of the eggs, and it was horrifying and depressing seeing her try to spoon it out while trying to convince her that she had to pitch it and start all over. Super gross.
So how you doin'?
This BS really annoys me, science is NOT a series of pronouncements from on high, it's not mystical statements meant to be puzzled out, it's a PROCESS where you SHOW YOUR WORK! If the Qur'an is 'scientific' to this bozo it just shows he has never read a peer reviewed article.
Correct. The same goes for the Bible. Just because someone put words in a book, is NOT scientific evidence. Science is not "Saint Bob said so".
his two verses at the end were so meaningless. he may as well as read a horoscope and connected that to creation
These muslim "proofs" are always the same. And the dudes think no one has heard of them before and rejected them with reason. This dude's got a "Top Proofs of Islam" list and has just accepted it. He hasn't come up with this by himself.
"I have a bunch of scientific evidence in the Quran"
* can't really even get through the first one.
The Filipino's eat partly developed egg embryos, usually from ducks.
Most Asians do
Balut? I couldn’t. I’m from the south so desperation food is common. But not something like that.
@@NoHateLikeChristianLove it is considered a delicacy
@@Gerryjournal Eh… I mean so is that cheese that gets softened by having maggots it! And fugu (blowfish) which can kill you.
Hippocrates, who recorded the first embryological study between 460 BC-370 BC, (isn't actually the first, it's just one..)Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love
Religion: Your b.s. is ridiculous. Take a look at my b.s. and you'll see the light.
Love that ❤
The whole of religion is based on a single misguided argument, which runs as follows: "Something exists / doesn't exist and I can't think of any way that that can be the case, so it must be due to magic, i.e god."
Caller: They knew about embryos and God had to have told them.
Matt: Here is a detailed five minute explanation about how it's perfectly logical that people could easily know about embryos in ancient times.
Caller: I'm pretty sure only divine intervention could account for this.
It was basically "But why male models?"
Ugh, from where does the need arise to type up an “alternative dialog” for a video we all watched, heard, and/or read the closed captioning?
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 Start conversation?
They either don't understand scientific evidence or they don't have anywhere to stand in claiming God cannot be disproven. Either way, their statement carries zero weight.
It's interesting to see examples of confirmation bias happening live like in this call. He finds the chewed gum passage, and rather than ask 'what possible ways could they have known about this at the time?' he instead just went 'they couldn't have known this, it must have been god'.
Having personally had to dispose of an 11 week fetus, I can confirm that chewed gum is as good a description as any.
My wife had 3 miscarriages over the years (and we have 2 healthy children), and in one the fetus was large and distinctive enough that we were worried that we should report it to the hospital, in case special disposal or reporting was required by law. In essence they told us to flush it.
That didn't feel good for something that had been carrying our hopes and dreams for several months, so we performed a private burial service, away from our home, and whenever I visit that location I have a quiet cry for Quinn, our unknown child.
@@ziploc2000 Aw man. I’m so sorry that happened to y’all. I hate hearing that. Can’t imagine what that must feel like.
I look at things in a historic perspective. Religion was our first science as it was a way to describe what we observed until we had an Explanation that stood the test of Scrutiny. So Reality and Religion has been separating ever since. It has become worse because we have these Written in Granite Guide Books that refuse to change when Science and Society discover new Information.
All these "holy" book were full of it all right.
"There is a thing in our heads that looks like grey worms."
-Another Quran verse that only God could know, probably 😂😂😂
They had chewing gum 1400 years ago!
Yes, actually lol
Goes back several thousand years, found in many different civilisations. Most often made of some kind of bark tar, but anything in a sense chewable.
People were chewing 'gum' 9,000 years ago
I like how these scholars said maggots somehow were spontaneously generated. Like farmers didn't notice that fly covered stuff got maggots but stuff flies avoided didn't. It's like black swans don't exist, until you get out of the crappy continents you would think that was true.
Tons and tons of other proposed insanity, Mohammed is only ONE such absurdity.
He had to ask if the Earth revolves around the Sun or vice versa! smFh!!
Obviously this poor guy has religion poisoning.
🙄🙈🙉
These conversations would go differently if women were involved as the questioner.
How so?
@@NoHateLikeChristianLove Who's Matt Berry?
@@Wix_Mitwirth World’s greatest actor.
@@NoHateLikeChristianLove I've heard that somewhere.
The history of the show proves otherwise.
I kind of wonder what the mountain claim was going to be
Hallucination, great proof.
offers food for thought
then he leaves you starving
Was chewed or any gum known whrn quaran was written?
Yes. That’s why they put it in the book.
How it feels to chew 5 embryos.
@@jonathant.6382😂
More than 5000 years ago they were chewing gum.
People were chewing 'gum' 9,000 years ago
Somebody in the past noticed something that we notice therefore they were wise! Said every religious wackydoodle person ever, followed by a rapid jumping to conclusions and pointing at the sky and some magical wors from a magical book and a bunch of idiots finding it all miraculous.
Looks like every magician must have supernatural powers. What other explanation could there be for their magic?
The only scientific miracle of the Qur'an is that Allah was able to learn that 2 and 2 are 4 without ever going to an elementary school.
Water is wet therefore my god is true 😂
And then he leaves with two verses that he thinks will do 'something'. Why do believers always do/try that. It has no impact on me other than revulsion and a feeling of arrogance coming from the speaker. As if: "we might have had a nice conversation but this is the (absolute) truth". Am I alone in that assessment?
I’m sorry but I cannot even take this argument seriously. You cannot argue that the Qur’an is scientific when it states that man was created from clay and Mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse. That and countless other nonsense. It is so childish that we need to have this argument to this level of depth and it still feels like a waste of time.
As I recall Arthur Conan Doyle was very interested in Spiritualism, so the dematerialism makes sense in that context.
I think maybe Assad was fixating on the word "embryo" rather than what the word means. I'm fairly certain that before scientific study the blobs from miscarriages were called something else. Oh, well he tried.
Some people walk around a box, therefore god
They had gum back then?
Gum was being chewed in the Neolithic period and probably earlier. They used sap from a tree. Modern gum was based on Chicle from a tree in central and south America.
People were chewing 'gum' 9,000 years ago
When was chewing gum invented?
People were chewing 'gum' 9,000 years ago
@@Gerryjournal Wrigley's or Hubba bubba?
It's full of something, I tell you what.
How come the Quran talks about chewed gum when it was only invented in 1869😮
Theists, of any religion, can't fathom the thought that their God's aren't real but just a fantasy of their minds
While they dismiss thousands of other gods and religions.
Why do the religious willingly tie themselves into a complete basket of macrame knots to try to prove their gods? Isn't it much easier and more fruitful to accept proven science?
It’s because who they are gets attached to the narrative, it’s not easy letting that go. Especially if you were raised with it.
Sudden uncertainty regarding death, is also terrifying. When confronted with such things, logical parts of our brain literally shut off, and we tend to jump through hoops to keep from dealing with it.
@manatwilight8434 My father was a baptist minister, I walked out of church at 8 years old, immediately after the talking snake story. I've been an atheist ever since. I'm now nearly 80.
@Gerryjournal
You are one of the lucky ones. You had self esteem.
@@GerryjournalUr father let you walk away? My dad was great to me, but he made me promise to accept J when I was around 5 or6. Thot I was saved twice as a teen. I wadnt
Does anyone, who has actually seen an embryo, think it looks like chewing gum? I, for one, can see NO similarity.
Yeah it kind of looks like chewing gum that someone has put on a class desk ect
There is no way to prove nor disprove any gods. Their mystical powers can be disproven using math. Infinity is not containable. Kind of simple.
If those mystical powers how no discernible effect upon reality, then what’s the difference between that and nothing.
If there is no difference then those mystical are no better than fiction and therefor pointless. Simple.
Some god concepts can be and have been debunked, others aren't falsifiable.
No it is not !!
Impressive look it's a circle shape => that explain litteraly the earth orbit the sun(whose was stated 1st by Aristarc of Samos around -200 BC if my ability to search on Google is good enough, so like 900 years before Coran being writed) is as good at the embryos concordism explanation. Concordism not new too, fascinate me as it's always weak(not hte weaker bc some callers happened to have great imagination, a shame they used it for such useless thing as trying to prove a fairy tale).
When we encounter a proposition, and we want it to be true, we ask _"can_ I believe it?" We then search for a reason to believe it and when we have it, we stop looking. If we don't want it to be true, then we ask _"must_ I believe it?" and look for a reason not to believe it. When we have it, we stop looking. This is the natural mode for humans.
Not true. If you actually care if said proposition is accurate to reality you ask “How can we demonstrate if this is accurate to reality?”. If you can’t you drop it.
What you said is true for a majority of modern Americans but that doesn’t concern itself with the facts. Just how people feel.
@@NoHateLikeChristianLoveMost people don't care if the proposition is accurate to reality.
I can't even think of a time where this was the reasoning that I used.
I must be unnatural then.
@@drewdrake9130Or you've fooled yourself. I don't know enough about you to say.
time to ask how one can believe it
The Quran is a guidance book.
Only if u consider rape and slavery guidance 🙄
Guidance into ignorance.
So are many others, it doesn't make them true
Yes, guidance to the past
not
After watching many of your videos I conclude that religion requires you to be a non-thinker. Also you must be gullible. I would have thought people would go over their arguments before calling in, but no, they wear their ignorance like a badge of honor.
Stop your nonsense
I'll trust the one who designed and created all things before I will trust one (finite man) who claims we came from monkeys. We are not monkey men or ape men; we are human (sinful creatures at that). Take your head out of the sand and look around you. If you can't see all the evil, sinfulness, corruption you are wearing the wrong glasses. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Reality, wake up. This world is about to become more chaotic/evil then it has ever been before. If you can't see that then you are deceived. Thinking this world is where we should place our hope. Jesus Christ is our only hope. Our living hope.
Call the show on Sunday at 1pm central. Our hosts would love to dive into this with you
So not a fan of actual evidence and rationality then? Good luck.
@@sceptictakeout6809 Atheists despise the truth (Jesus Christ) because they would have to admit they have sinned/done wrong. Some people are too proud to ever do that.
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;
Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
@@alamunez Atheists despise the truth (Jesus Christ) because they would have to admit they have sinned/done wrong. Some people are too proud to ever do that.
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;
Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
None of what you have said is convincing. Rather than preaching why don't you call and have a discussion that can be dissected?
Repent of your sins. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. John 3:16, Luke 13:3, 1 Peter 1:23 KJV......
no
Lol
Live a decent life, free of gullibility !
Lol, naa. Fake news
I haven't sin. What would be salvation for?
"I bet they don't dare touch christinsanity 🥸🥸"......
inanity