4 things we wish we knew before we started working
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2023
- In this week's video, we discuss 4 things we wish we knew before we started working as corporate lawyers.
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Timestamps:
0:15 Doubt is normal
2:57 Newsletter
3:30 Creating/finding opportunities
6:05 Impostor syndrome
8:47 Sacrificing ability to plan
![figuring out what's next | the space in between [ep. 02]](/img/n.gif)
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...and for anyone wondering, my (Lloyd's) glasses fog up a lot because we film without air conditioning on, and it's very hot in Hong Kong 😂
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Hey, what do you think of the CCP? Kinda communist right?
The less scripted approach is refreshing :) well done for no umms and ahhs! We get to see more of your dynamic together :)
Thank you 🥰 we’re enjoying the format too!
Hey guys as a 22 year old fresh graduate in HK from AUS find your advices very relatable and looking foward to more of your video's!!!!
Lol Natalie recommended me this channel and I love it!
Indeed career doubts discussed here are applicable to many fields, definitely to finance
if I may respectfully add another point: we enjoy a high-priced freedom, either in terms of monetary value or time/energy cost
Such a good advice! Being proactive in creating your destiny is a continuous journey and the earlier we know this, the more fulfilled we can be. I always found for myself in my early years that I wasn't able to differentiate between what would be considered 'proactive', 'domineering' or simply 'rude' so I would hesitate to take action when it comes to things I want to do at work.
Would you please consider making a video on this topic? What hinders young professionals from being proactive and what have you learned throughout your careers in terms of communicating your personal development needs/goals?
New to your channel. Found your video on office setup and it led me to preview more of your content. I'm not a lawyer but I really like your videos and am looking forward to seeing more.
Very insightful video, thank you for your great content, you have a new subscriber 😊👍👍
as a software engineer i’d say about 20% of everything in a computer science degree is useful for day-to-day work as well
I'm going to make this comment before actually watching the video:
Is it that soul-crushing corporate long hours ratrace jobs aren't a lot of fun? Perhaps so misery inducing that they just aren't worth the money? That the salaries, when you look at the hours you're working and what you're giving up to work those hours, are actually pretty terrible? That there has to be more to life than wake up, commute, work, commute home, sleep, wake up, commute, work, commute home, sleep?
haha - not quite the points we raise in this video, but to respond to each of your points briefly:
1) on the whole, they're definitely not super fun;
2) whether or not it's "worth it" is definitely an individual assessment, and will depend on the person's circumstances and what stage of their career they're in;
3) salaries look pretty bad on a "per hour" calculation generally speaking, but to play devil's advocate, that also doesn't take into account the benefit of any experience gained on the job;
4) hard agree with this one
we left our jobs as lawyers at big corporate firms because they no longer made sense for us at our current stage of life, but we're also quite aware of the fact that the value proposition is different depending on the person and where they're at with their career progression. Case in point: neither of us regret the experience we gained from the work that we did, and the skills we picked up while working those jobs will stay with us forever 🙌🏻
@@EmandLloyd So it's like I've discovered with banking - balance of probabilities says you take the job for the exit opportunities and go into it with a plan to leave after spending a couple of years proving your mettle. So it's essentially a filtration process for the companies that you DO actually want to work at.
Hi Llyod & Elm, does it take you a long time before you quit being a lawyer? After studying so hard for the law degree and those experience you have gathered?
Absolutely. It took us about 1-2 years of thinking and planning. Ultimately we decided not to engage in the sunk cost fallacy - i.e. instead of focusing on the ~10 years we had spent in law school and working as lawyers, we instead wanted to focus on the 40ish years of work and life we have ahead of us. The experience and skills we picked up as lawyers never leaves us either!
Hmm... I've usually heard the opposite. I think you should absolutely only go to law school if you know you want to be a lawyer. I don't know where you guys were trained, but in the US, many people have to go over six figures in debt (on top of any undergraduate debt) in order to pay for law school. And the non-law opportunities for law school grads are (1) few and/or (2) pay far less than being a lawyer (at least a biglaw attorney). I think what people don't talk about enough is that you absolutely don't need to go into law school immediately. Take the time to actually understand the day-to-day of a lawyer (e.g., work as a paralegal) before making the decision to go to law school.
Why there is a plant behind the background? Can't focus
Your legs look great in that thumbnail
Your legs look great in that thumbnail
Even something as specific as Chiropractic school...I'd say less that 50% of what we learned is relevant to actually being a practicing Chiro. However 80% of that 50% is very outdated 😂
Good to know! Need to stay up to date on the best back crack tech 😂