It doesn’t worry me. My philosophy is that is it’s terrible I still have the books. And, there’s a possibility that it could be great! At the very least it will inspire some new people to pick up the books and give them a try!
Brandon goes on to say in more detail that he will absolutely only approve a production that allows him to be heavily involved. He cites delays in adaptations being from his trying to get more experience with screenplays so he can play a significant role. Brandon may be softballing on wheel of time but you can tell he wasn't going to let that happen to him.
Hmm. I have zero excitement for film these days. Hollywood seems more interested in ensuring inclusion vs focusing on excellence in film. However, I love Brandon’s work and glad he is being picky.
@@briand3200 In all fairness there is almost no need to worry about that with Sanderson because he has the same goal. He’s already said that when the Mistborn movie happens Ham is going to be female (I personally think that it should have been Dox but whatever), and the Cosmere is already incredibly diverse from our POV. Most of the characters from Stormlight Archive are canonically dark skinned, Ranette from era 2 is lesbian, and the Reshi King is probably transgender. There will probably be a fair amount of agenda in the movies, and we can’t underestimate Hollywood’s ability to screw things up, but with the level of control that Brandon will have over the adaptation I firmly believe that story will come first.
to be fair, the makers of GoT had to read and answer questions by George RR Martin in order to make sure that they understood the books and still they messed it up in the end...
@@leodavinci9682 unfortunately, Hollywood execs still grift and authors can get tricked. But the story has been widely circulated and it seems GRRM wasn't THAT discerning. He only asked one major question (who's Jon's mother?) and that satisfied him enough. I'm not sure what questions Brandon can ask to check more thoroughly, but he's clever.
I feel like he has learned a lot from what happened with Wheel of Time, and his lack of creative control with it. He knows exactly what has to happen to get the adaptation he wants and will not balk at big stacks of cash. Well done Brando Sando!
I don't think he would have taken creative control on WoT if he had been offered (and I think he was, if I remember his streams and podcasts). But I can totally imagine Harriet regretting not trying to take more control and telling Brandon that.
@@charles3840 Absolutely, RJ had to be rolling over in his grave with what they did to the series. How do you take a book series that's already so open to diversity and bastardize it as bad as they did?
@@charles3840 he did once said on a video about how he became the second author of WoT that after he wrote the three finale books, it was not his place to write or make any more WoT content any longer. He didn’t want to dishonor the series by making extra books or adaptations. His job wad to solely write the finale and that was it.
“Hollywood doesn’t know what to do with people who don’t need their money” That was such a boss-ass move it made me emotional, I'm so happy he's leading the charge, unproblematic king!
Kind of a confusing moment as he signs books for the money and says “I don’t need their money”. Confusing because he’s right, he doesn’t need the money, but he’s just signing books to please fans it would seem. Baller moment.
"Hollywood does not what to do with people who don't need their money. It's very bizarre to them." I don't know exactly why but this is hilarious. The fact that they're so used to that "money = yes" mindset that when someone says "eh I don't need it" it baffles them is extremely funny
Hollywood would rather buy an Arthur out for the movie, show, whatever so they won’t have to follow the writers story and do what they think sales and wins them awards. That’s what keeps movie makers in business. Not what the characters are truly suppose to be. The only think that changes current thoughts is how Disney makes movies and season. The season explain the story and movie sales the action. That’s the way to go I guess.
The real power of 'not needing the money' is: First he can actually ask for more money because he doesn't need the money. This may seem like the opposite, but in reality it's because he can say no to a ton of cash which lets him ask for a ton more cash. If Hollywood goes to some low income John Doe Author and offer him 60k and that's x2 his yearly salary for the rights to his books he is going to say yes because he really needs that money and he doesn't want to scare them away by asking for too much. But you offer Brandon 1 million he can laugh and say "come back when you can offer 5". (I'm of course just making up numbers here... I don't actually know what the amounts Brandon would actually be able to ask for. But you should get the point.) Secondly it means he can negotiate for more creative control because he can afford to give up some money to make sure he keeps the rights to casting or final say on scripts and such. This is usually one thing that most Authors need to give up right away because they just need the cash and so are willing to give up too much control because they need the deal. One side effect of being able to command so much money for his works is that they are more likely to get done. If a Hollywood company only pays 50k or so for the rights to an IP, this is such chump change to them that they can afford to just shelve the project if they find it's not convenient for them to make it. They can write that off. But if they have to put up real money just to get the rights, it motivates them to actually commit to the project. It also means they are going to dump a lot more into the budget of said project. If they spent 50k for the rights, they can put 500k into the project and if they make 1 mil that's all they need for the project to be a positive investment for them. But if they spend 1 mil+ on the rights, they will need to dump some real coin into the budget too since they need this to be a blockbuster in order to make it a positive investment overall. If they are smart, they will also likely want a much more high profile director team to take on the project too, since they are putting so much money into it they don't want an untested newbie when so much money is on the line.
I would love that so much! But I know Sanderson has his heart on a live action mistborn. Still maybe he could do a side series or something animated in the same world.
For me Mistborn can be done very well live action. I think translating the whole SA into live action will be very difficult and I feel animation will suit it better. Unless we're talking about WoK and WoR, those I feel can be done well in live action.
Stormlight Archive needs to be finished first. The first 5 at the very least. The people who make TV shows seem to really fail when they get ahead of the source material. I wouldn't mind an Elantris adaptation.
I really hope he does what Harry potter did, and keep his casting rights. That way you don't have actors out of left field, who are cheap, but also don't match the character at all. Hollywood is incestuous in that regard. You deserve to make the show that you envisioned when writing your books. I also want him to make a game out of his worlds.
@@zylertilleman3408 animated stormlight would be so much more inferior than a live-action. It deserves to be in the upper tiers with LoTR and GoT, and limiting it to animated mediums closes off a large audience, and also makes it less of an epic for me.
@@Coltaine_ I think live action would be more limiting. There is only so much you can do with sets and a limited CGI budget (regardless of how big that limit is). With animation you could make the massive battles and fight sequences look far better as there is far less restriction with regards to artistic style.
Honestly most authors aren't so it's cool Brandon can be. And I get it. if an author needs money they'll sell the rights for a big payday and often aren't able to negotiate having power over the film. If they try and the studio decides it's not worth it they could withdraw their offer.
@@cosmerejunkie7931 yep, Brandon sold his first rights when he was just starting and basically broke. He sold them for $30k and that was insane money to him, like yearly wage
Love Brandon attitude when it comes to money. We the people, would much rather see his books come to life the way they were meant too instead of how some Hollywood smooch wants to change it for awards and rating. Keep it true and it will sale. Love it..
@@cosmerejunkie7931 would love to see Manu Bennett as Gavilar Kholin or someone close to him. Accent and look and demeanor he Carry just screams Gavilar too me. Maybe gal gabot as Yesenia kholin. Strong, beautiful, and an air or sophistication about her.
Yeah those two things do put him in an amazing negotiating position. He's free to walk away from any of them and lose nothing, and there isn't another up and coming author of his renown who hasn't had a series made to go to for the next thing. I'm very glad he's taking it slow and making sure to choose the people he wants to work with and the deal he wants. I also really agree with how he talks about adaptations in general. Where his focus is on keeping the essence of the story, and telling the best story possible for that medium, not in being absolutely loyal to everything in the book as some changes need to be made and are good for the story. It's just not changing things just to change them but for a reason. And not losing why people love this thing in the mix.
He's also getting experiences in the tv/film by working with Amazon on The Wheel of Time series. Hopefully he learns a lot in time for Stormlight Archive
"and there isn't another up and coming author of his renown who hasn't had a series made to go to for the next thing" Ok, this is moronic. There a ton of other fantasy authors that could be the next big thing like Joe Abercrombie. Let's not be crazy here.
@@tadious9415 Abercrombie and rothfuss come close though. Remember that if you have sold millions of books then they'll probably come and ask. That's what matters. Wot had sold 80M copies and asoiaf 12 M and still asoiaf managed to break through the pop culture not wot.
God, I really hope they do mistborn first. Not because I think it's the greatest Sanderson property (but definitely amazing), but because it has a tight story, good magic that's understandable, and also would hit so many demographics who are unaware of the Cosmere. It has a heist component, a good female character at the point, a little romance, and what could be amazing fights if the CGI is done properly.
Right? And enough of the powers wouldn’t need CGI like tin, copper or zink. It’s a good first try since it won’t be as CGI heavy as other books like Stormlight
@@cosmerejunkie7931 yah, I think it could be a strong YA-ish style adaptation with some darker elements in the second and 3rd volume. Almost like Harry Potter did. Make it light and fun season/movie 1, then end a bit darker and the seasons or movies get darker and darker until it's almost an adult-themed property by the end of the 3rd. Plus if it's a success, it allows the second era of Mistborn to give a producer 7+ seasons or movies to rake in the cash from.
I hope Brandon keeps an Iron grip on whatever is done. Something where he has to aprove it at multiple steps changes he recommends have to be done. Something where Brandon can say honestly at the start "I'm Brandon Sanderson, and I aprove this (form of adaptation)"
That would be cool. I think Brandon is the first person to admit that he's not the best film maker or screen writer so I think he's humble enough to defer to people who are better at their jobs than he is. However, I hope he's firm when it comes to character arcs to preserve the essence of the story. It's an adaptation so there will of course be lots of changes. Hopefully he can make sure the heart of the story is the same tho.
This response filled me with such joy I can't even describe it. If we ever get an adaptation it will be at the full behest of Sando, a man known for prioritising quality over financial gain (which in turn actually led to financial gain because people want quality).
It’ll be his first real attempt at an adaptation (not counting WoT) so if it isn’t mind blowing I understand. I do hope he keeps adapting and gets better as he goes!
I legitimately read this, felt like it was something I would say, and I used to have an almost identical picture to your profile picture. And then only came back when I realized "wait 1h ago??? I didn't comment on anything tonight"
In defense of that omission, regardless of the quality of the adaptation (which I've heard is mixed, putting it kindly), he might not consider it his in the same way that, say, a Mistborn adaptation would be his, or a Stormlight adaptation. Wheel of Time is Robert Jordan's, and in his absence is presided over by those in charge of his estate. Brandon simply ghostwrote the last few books.
@@Landis963 The issue isn't that he said he doesn't have adaptations being made of his works. Its that he listed off some examples of very good new fantasy property series like witcher and arcane but didn't include the wheel of time adaptation among them
I am so nervous that they will take his genius his writings, his stories, and his work and ruin them as so many adaptations have before. Please don’t allow Hollywood destroy the art you have created
First Law is much more filmable than most other fantasy. I'm honestly surprised somebody hasn't jumped on that yet seeing how similar it is to GoT it is.
Man I hope Brandon manages to get/make good adaptions. In particular, I really hope he can negotiate licenses that don’t prevent future adaptions. Live Action adaptions are ok and I know they generally get more views but I really think Brandons work would be incredible animated. From Mistborn and Stormlight to Sixth of the Dusk and Emperor’s soul.
For Mistborn, both Era 1&2, there's definitely enough story. Warbreaker has it too but it would probably get the GoT season 8 treatment if the story for screen isn't done right
Same! Some people give him a hard time for writing secret projects when he could have been writing Stormlight 5. But he's said he'd get burned out without variety and projects in-between. It keeps him fresh.
Be as picky as you can be! Once these series come to the screens I wouldn't expect anything short of perfection! And none of those "good at first but falls short after episode 3/4*
I am hoping Brandon's books are getting picked up at the right time: after a bunch of successes and flops that both him, the fans, and the studios are all aware this can be successful but that there absolutely is a wrong way to adapt fantasy material that simply won't work. That is: making it cheaply, making something into Game of Thrones that isn't, drastically rewriting the story to somehow make it more palatable to viewers (usually as perceived by execs), trying to cater to what fans are asking for (fans don't know what they actually want/need), etc. I am hoping that Hollywood has seen these bad attempts and has taken notes and learned from theirs and others' mistakes. I think because it has taken Brandon so long to get picked up that he might have avoided the surge of bad productions, but at the point where studios still want to do fantasy adaptations and fund them well. It is likely that LotR will flop, and I am worried that studios will suddenly drop Brandon's material again. But hopefully neither of those things happen. If LotR does fail, it needs to be shouted out on social media and by critics that it is because of a betrayal of the source material. Because execs forced artists and writers to focus on representation, rather than trying to be representative. By that, I mean they insert token actors in but fail to use their talents, tell a story with the character, etc. TV shows trying to be "woke" and "shoe horn in" representation isn't the real problem (it's the newest fad that companies are chasing, like how 3D animation dominated the PG movie space from late 90s to early 2010s) but not doing anything to actually create a good and entertaining story.
@@tct8284 ooooh I never hope someone else’s show flops my dude. Hope for the best! Rings of power won’t have anything to do with his show and Brandon has already said he’s being very picky with which studio he works with so he can have the most control over the adaptation possible
@@cosmerejunkie7931 just my opinion.... IDK how Hollywood negotiations work.... some weird LOTR Prequel vs the Cosmere its not even close what I care about more. I liked the video.
To be fair he has had rights sold in the past, early in his career - did you know that DreamWorks had the rights to make an animated movie based on Alcatraz vs the Evil Librarians? They passed it up for Joe To Train Your Dragon in the end. That Hollywood money really helped him out when he was still fresh. Then Stormlight happened and now he's a bit more discriminating.
I think after the fact they kept Sando on as advisor for WOT and didn't take any of his advice probably opened his eyes. Even with great source material show runners will still try to write there own shit and ignore he source material.
Some great points. I think adapting a book to a film has to be one of the hardest things to do since if you’re too loyal to the source material it can really mess it up.
"They didn't take any of his advice" is completely wrong. Brandon's gone on at length about what he did and didn't contribute. They listened to a *lot* of his advice and character bits on WoT, he just didn't get final say on some of the bigger changes (like Perrin's wife). : They also have him in a heavier more involved role for season 2. If they were completely ignoring him he wouldn't bother.
@@robbybevard8034 Even without that, it is a very hubristic showrunner indeed who is helming an adaptation of a work and does not take shameless advantage of every scrap of material the original author (or in WoT's case, the original writing team, as it eventually grew to be) has to offer. The example of Game of Thrones is illustrative here: when the showrunners ran out of GRRM's original work, the dialogue grew clumsy, the plotting grew convenient, and the conclusion... well, there's been far enough energy spent on the state of the conclusion of Game of Thrones, hasn't there?
@@Landis963 The difference in this case is, Gaem of Thrones didn't have enough material to fill 8 seasons. Wheel of Time has enough material to do 15 or 20 seasons, 400 episodes... and its never ever ever going to be that. At best its going to be 70-80, maybe 8 years. It HAS to adapt and condense and change and do things differently. It's never going be everything the books were, it has to change. l don't agree with a lot of those changes, or the over the top gore, overall I give the first season maybe a 5/10, I'm not excited about it. But I do understand the changes. Things like emphasizing Logain more early on or giving everyone but Rand more to do in the first season make sense. Saving the royal family for season 2 makes sense. It was always going to have to be a different story in someways. I won't object at all if the show cuts the Morgase plot entirely, for instance. She was a major character that had a lot of chapters dedicated to her, but... It's an adaptation. It HAS to cut and scrimp and change. There was never going to be tiem or budget to do the books exactly, so if it wants to cover the whole story it had to start changing course early and often.
As a future writer (or wannabe) I can say that selling your book to Hollywood is always a good choice. It's a win-win situation: 1- They make a great movie... then you will sell tones of books. The Martian is a great example. 2- They make a horrible movie... everyone is going to say the book was better. See? Win-win situation LOL
It's true. I think it was even Sanderson that pointed out book sales usually triple even with bad adaptations. But man, I really want to see the adaptations done well.
Not really, they make a bad movie and then you won't get another adaptation for at least 20-30 years if you ever get it. The dark tower movie pushed back a dark tower show for who knows how long.
I trust Brandon with this. Especially because he will have his pick of the lot, and he now has a lot of experience, even if not directly, with amazon and the WoT Adaption
I agree. I'm excited to see what he does. But I also hope he saves his most complicated works like WOK until he's had more practice with some of his other properties
I am not worried. It’s obvious to me that Brandon is not going to say yes to anybody for the sake of just having it made. I believe that Brandon will choose wisely and we will get a quality product in return. It saddens me a bit that we will have to wait a little longer for Stormlight 5, but experience has taught me that if one has to wait to get the best possible product then we wait.
I’m slightly worried, but only because Brandon has stated that there are things that he felt he got wrong that he wants to do right in the adaptation. The problem is that some of these things he’s claiming he wants to “get right” the second go-round aren’t really problems, just things he perceives as problematic after someone points it out to him. Spoilers for Mistborn book 1: A good example of something he regrets doing that he hopes is bettered in an adaptation is Vin suddenly being able to control the mists at the end of The Final Empire. He calls it her gaining a new power at the 90% mark because, even if he later retconned in an explanation for it in a later book, it seems out of nowhere. He’s hoping an adaptation will fix that by adding in stories or legends of people being able to control the mists or something in that vein. I agree with this change, as it would make her doing it in the end seem less jarring and improve the story and how it functions. Something that he sees as a problem that does *not* need fixing, on the other hand, is having one of the crew members be female in the adaptation. There’s no inherent story problem with having Vin being the only girl in the crew while all the other crew members are male. In fact, it adds a nuance to her arc that would be changed if one of them was female. Vin learning to open up to a group of men is distinctly harder for her because she’s the only girl in the group and she’s still distrusting of one of them betraying her in some form or another. She’s the only girl in what is very much a man’s world: the only reason female skaa aren’t sold directly to the whorehouses is because they could be useful for a job because of their allomancy or feminine charm. The implied fear of sexual assault is very prevalent throughout the book, and while I’m not saying that a woman can’t assault another woman, it’s a much less common fear than a young woman fearing being taken by a group of men around her. Not to mention, when female crew members do show up in book 2, Vin is immediately distrusting towards them. If anything, it brings me back to what Sanderson himself warned The Wheel of Time’s showrunner would happen if they went the route they did with Perrin at the start of the show: having a character do something so horrible would mean they would have to be extremely responsible in how they handled him reacting to it, and they ultimately weren’t able to follow through on that. I think Sanderson has good intentions with making one of the crew female, but ultimately I think he’s doing it so that he can appease a very niche group and his own conscience instead of doing it because it will serve the story better. While this IS the sort of thing that could make for an interesting dynamic in a book (where you’d have time to explore the nuances of females interacting as major players in a predominately male landscape), a film has much less time to explore those things, especially when there’s as much plot to unpack in it as there will be for Mistborn. It just seems to be a change done for the sake of change and not because it will inherently be better for the story overall. However, Sanderson is extremely intelligent and will likely have realized most of this by now on his own if someone hasn’t brought it up to him already. I trust that if he sticks to his convictions and makes this change that he’ll have considered the ripple effect it’ll have in the story and write the adaptation treatment accordingly.
Let's get an adaptation that is actually faithful to the source material and not just some tonally estranged fan fic version like Wheel of Time ended up being. And if we end up going the animated route, hopefully it is something as visually spectacular and well written as Arcane
Man I love Arcane. adapting books is hard. You gotta make changes but it's difficult to find the right changes to keep the heart of the story. I'm excited!
Speaking of animated, I could also see something like "Legend of Vox Machina" working really well. A somewhat unique retelling that heavily paid homage to the source material while condensing something incredibly lengthy...
Wheel of Time certainly had its issues, but it's far from what I could consider a disaster of an adaptation like say Eragon or the live action Avatar was. Wheel of Time had more changes than I would've liked, and some that seemed strange to me. But as a whole the actors nailed their roles, they told a good story, they brought some nice action scenes and when things didn't fit what did happen in the books, it generally did fit with what could have happened plausibly with those characters in a slightly different scenario. It's also just the first season. Many of my favorite shows have bad to meh first seasons. And Sanderson was involved in that to some degree, and I think they'll also realize the things people didn't like are a lot of what he told them ahead of time wouldn't go well.
@@tadious9415 I couldn’t get through 3 episodes. It was horrendous. Brandon’s involvement was giving suggestions and them completely ignoring said suggestions. They don’t like the wheel of time, so decided to write their own story and slap the Wheel of Time name on it. Many people tapped out after like 3 episodes because of how bad it was, most much bigger WoT fans than me. A director can have room to deviate from the source material a little and still be respectful to it, LOTR movies are a great example, but it seems as if Rafe read a synopsis of WoT, didn’t like it, thought he can write something better, so threw the source material out the window. And saying WoT show isn’t as big a disaster as Eragon or Avatar isn’t a complement😂 it just adds a name to that list imo.
@@tadious9415 additionally, the actors are the thing that took me out of the story to begin with, because they look NOTHING like their book descriptions, save perhaps Rand, Mat, and Moiraine
Awesooooomeeeeeeeee! Give me some B Sanderson adaptations please! I just really hope they do it well and don't ruin and undermine how good his books are.
Preach my friend! Worst case scenario we'll still have the books! So long as he keeps writing them! Also, thanks for stopping by! I really appreciate it!
Whatever gets made, the internet will hate it and it will be hilarious. I'd love to see one of the 1990s classic films that were book adaptations come out today. Forrest Gump you actually COULD say 'this is just fanfic based on one faithful character from the book'. Film Jenny is unrecognisable, and the film made up huge arcs. Jurassic Park had a few big changes that changed Nedry's motivations and also changed other things to set up for sequels. Fight Club was also less faithful to the source material than WoT or GoT were. All of them turned out pretty well, even if with Jurassic Park the book was clearly better. They'd all be hated today.
Even LOTR had huge backlash on the budding new internet for not being “faithful” to the books. Now they are adored. It’s impossible to be completely faithful. You just hope it captures the heart of the books
I'm really hoping Warbreaker is first for live action, it could work well in animation too, but seeing it in live action would be amazing (if done well).
OHHH I love that one! It would be really hard to get the returned's auras right. They affect color everywhere they go and that would be tough to animate.
Either that or Emperor's Soul. Emperor's Soul could, if done in a nice art house way, has potential to be a really interesting, personal story that can sweep in awards season.
Performance bond. In major construction projects there is often a performance bond, if you get the contract and you dont get the product built on time and in spec you get huge fines per day and all that goes against a very big bond. So when they want to option a IP make them put a performance bond up. The non serious and IP campers will vanish.
"Hollywood does not know what to do with people who don't need their money" gave me Harlan Ellison vibes in a good good way. It seems like everyone always tries to treat the writers / creators as these incidental people who are just sort of there to be paid off so that the REAL product can be made... ...Sanderson IS Stormlight Achives, Sanderson IS Mistborn, Sanderson IS the Cosmere universe...without his hard work and effort those things simply do not exist. ...good for him for holding out until he can pen a deal where HIS vision for HIS work will be realized. Amazon took WOT and turned it into a 6/10 show (and that's probably being a bit generous depending on the episode in question). He should absolutely keep creative control of his work until he finds someone that's willing to do it right.
I wish people had this same feeling in regards to J. K. Rowling. I won’t be going into whether her views are right or wrong, because that’s not what’s up for debate here, but people saying that anything for the Wizarding World NEEDS to be made without her involvement from here on out is kidding themselves. If someone says that she IS Harry Potter or that she IS Fantastic Beasts, the twitter mob would automatically attack you and spout “death of the author” arguments. Whether you agree with her views or not, she IS those works. She poured her heart and soul into them and they ended up working to varying results. People need to remember that and respect it, especially if, like Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson, they owe their entire careers to her. Anytime people who profited off of the success of someone’s work vilifies them while still raking in the profits behind closed doors, it infuriates me.
@@cosmerejunkie7931 Yeah, Sanderson is this great combination of incredibly talented writer and shrewd businessman...it's honestly really refreshing to see. I hate seeing "creatives" who make amazing things, but don't know how to manage the commercial aspect...and, consequently, getting screwed out of the fruits of their own labor. Ellison was a maniac, but his stance on "paying the author" is spot on even now. Self-publishing and small studio production teams become more and more possible every year with technology. Writers don't need Hollywood...Hollywood needs the writer.
"Hollywood doesn't know what to do with people who don't need their money" I remember reading that there was going to be a 90s Sandman adaptation, and when Neil Gaiman found out what it was going to entail, he personally intervened to ensure it didn't happen.
The clear and intentional omission of Wheel of Time at the beginning of this clip is... sad in many, many ways. Some of us waited 30 years for that adaptation. It should not have gone to the people it did.
Please please Hollywood if your making a Stormlight tv series do not f this up I want it to be prefect none of that whitewashing, race and gender swapping garbage you pull and though I personally would like an Animated project if it must be Live Action I want Parshendi that are just guys and gals in makeup I want top notch CGI like just please please don’t screw this up.
Though question, assuming the Cosmere got adapted into multiple movies/ shows how would the timeline and everything work for the release order? Marvel makes it to where you have to watch a bunch of different shows & films to get the current story (best example being you have to watch Wandavision to understand Dr. Strange 2). Star Wars tell their stories out of order and it can get confusing to know when what takes place
Well the first book in the cosmere is going to be DragonSteel from Hoid's perspective and Sanderson won't write that until after The way of Kings and Mistborn. So they likely won't tell it as one cohesive series. It would likely be multiple seperate properties like the books. Those who know will know. Anyways, Thanks so much for watching!
If the directors and actors don't ask questions that require a RAFO from him: THEY AREN'T THE ONES! And please don't make every accent British. Don't give me some 5'3" actor in SHARDPLATE! I need to HATE Moash. The fused need to be regal and visually intimidating. I need a good 3-4 episodes of the first season to show the horrors of bridge 4, not a 3 min montage. I swear to god I don't trust Hollywood to do this. I need to hear the tones of Roshar, 100 DISCORDANT RYTHMS! Odium needs to instill dIvine dread. Taravangian needs to be a proper mad lad, dont give me some 20 year old actor with a crappy joker laugh and a bad wig. If I don't get chills when Syl says "SPEAK THE WORDS", don't even bother with it. I NEED proper split-personality Shallan, if Sanderson isnt overseeing it I just know were going to get a some actress who slept with someone to get the position and has 0 facial expressions and bad accents.
YYYYYEEEEEESSSSS don’t sell out make your fans proud!!!!!!! Hell live action kinda sucks when compared to anime/ cartoon and we have seen live action do poorly more often then not
It sounds like he’s already said yes which is why he said. “I can’t announce it yet. But if they come out and they are great it may take more of my time.” I bet he’s got some deals in place. He’s just legally not able to tell us what it is yet.
@@brendanh1745 I see your point, but I think the setting would set it apart from The Boys. Chicago being made of Steel, New York being half underwater, and of course the travelling city of sand. And I love the crazy, secret weaknesses the super powered have, and the protagonist catagoring them all. I think overall, it would have a very different feel if done right. But I don’t think they’ll make it anyway. It’s still likely to be Stormlight. Although, Mistborn would be great.
Um, what happened to those guys who optioned Mr. Sanderson's stuff (or at least the Cosmere stuff) a while back? Did they fail to renew? Did Mr. Sanderson balk at renewal? Were there any screenplays made under the option, and if so, what are their use potential statuses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm nearly finished with a possible screenplay for "The Emperor's Soul." I'm afraid it will be ready too late for Final Draft's current Big Break writing contest, and I have no idea how they would judge adapted screenplays. If Mr. Sanderson asks for the most recent copy, I can provide it for him at a moment's notice, but for him and him alone.
Hollywood purchases what is called an option. Basically it is the right to buy the movie for a given amount of time. So if a movie doesn’t get made the option lapses and the rights return to Brandon. This is why Sony will make a spider-man movie every couple of years, otherwise the rights return to marvel.
Yup! In fact sanderson sold several adaptation rights for his books but they were never made. Now he’s in a great position where he has all his rights and can start negotiating hard since he doesn’t care about their money and they really want his properties with his recent success
I wish he could do what marvel did after Iron Man, make his own studio and manage his property and respect the source material. I see the cosmere as the next MCU if it is done right.
Wouldn't that be awesome! The thing is though once Disney bought Marvel their budget skyrocketed! And while the creatives had control their quality was great! Now Bob Chapek is squeezing the life out of the property! If Brandon can keep control but have the backing funds of a major studio I think it would be the best of both worlds!
It cracks me up because you can tell that this was specifically dumb-ass execs watching Brandon make a lot of money and saying "hey we should get some of that"
1:09 Actually, the best selling work of fiction that has never been made into a movie would be Mao Tse-Tung's "Little Red Book," though calling that literature may be stretching things. ;)
He should form his own production company and take a credit as producer, make sure he always has final script approval, input on casting, who gets to direct and what style of film it should be, he should go for at least the same amount of creative control as Rowling had on the Potter movies.
@@lordfifthissth8258 yes it’s ask me anything so you would be likely to get some spoilers for some of the books. However I also uploaded the clip of him talking about his conversations with Hollywood if you go to my channel. It’s my second newest video right now.
@@Andrew.Downing From the interviews I've seen where Sanderson discusses the topic it looks like he likes the showrunner and trusts his insticts for preserving the character's emotional journey. A scene for scene adaptation isn't practical for those books so it's about boiling it down to the character arcs which wasn't too bad honestly. The execution just wasn't great. But lots of TV shows are "finding their footing" the first few seasons before they find their stride. Fingers crossed this is the case.
@@cosmerejunkie7931 I wouldn't disagree but like Eternals was thr closest thing Hollywood has had in terms of what kind of VFX are needed for Stormlight, and we saw how it did. Animated isn't limited as VFX/CGI is, and US hasn't put out anything as great in that department as Anime have, other than Arcane. If they could strike a deal with studios like Mappa or Ufotable, its gonna be real sick. And we need best of best for Stormlight. Also this is assuming Stormlight is popular in Japan too. I haven't seen Japanese edition of the books, which Kingkiller chronicles have a sick one btw, so I don't know how well it is received there.
After seeing how badly Hollywood mangles most properties, I am not sure if this excites me or worries me more.
It doesn’t worry me. My philosophy is that is it’s terrible I still have the books. And, there’s a possibility that it could be great! At the very least it will inspire some new people to pick up the books and give them a try!
Brandon goes on to say in more detail that he will absolutely only approve a production that allows him to be heavily involved. He cites delays in adaptations being from his trying to get more experience with screenplays so he can play a significant role.
Brandon may be softballing on wheel of time but you can tell he wasn't going to let that happen to him.
Hmm. I have zero excitement for film these days. Hollywood seems more interested in ensuring inclusion vs focusing on excellence in film. However, I love Brandon’s work and glad he is being picky.
I'd be more worried
@@briand3200 In all fairness there is almost no need to worry about that with Sanderson because he has the same goal. He’s already said that when the Mistborn movie happens Ham is going to be female (I personally think that it should have been Dox but whatever), and the Cosmere is already incredibly diverse from our POV. Most of the characters from Stormlight Archive are canonically dark skinned, Ranette from era 2 is lesbian, and the Reshi King is probably transgender. There will probably be a fair amount of agenda in the movies, and we can’t underestimate Hollywood’s ability to screw things up, but with the level of control that Brandon will have over the adaptation I firmly believe that story will come first.
I'm so glad Brandon has the freedom to be able to pick and choose who to work with.
Right? He didn’t say a lot of streaming services… he said “EVERY Streaming Service”
to be fair, the makers of GoT had to read and answer questions by George RR Martin in order to make sure that they understood the books and still they messed it up in the end...
@@leodavinci9682 there was no book for the end
Even though Disney does it right with marvel, I hope he avoids Disney. 😂
@@leodavinci9682 unfortunately, Hollywood execs still grift and authors can get tricked.
But the story has been widely circulated and it seems GRRM wasn't THAT discerning. He only asked one major question (who's Jon's mother?) and that satisfied him enough.
I'm not sure what questions Brandon can ask to check more thoroughly, but he's clever.
I feel like he has learned a lot from what happened with Wheel of Time, and his lack of creative control with it. He knows exactly what has to happen to get the adaptation he wants and will not balk at big stacks of cash. Well done Brando Sando!
I don't think he would have taken creative control on WoT if he had been offered (and I think he was, if I remember his streams and podcasts).
But I can totally imagine Harriet regretting not trying to take more control and telling Brandon that.
@@charles3840 Absolutely, RJ had to be rolling over in his grave with what they did to the series. How do you take a book series that's already so open to diversity and bastardize it as bad as they did?
@@charles3840 he did once said on a video about how he became the second author of WoT that after he wrote the three finale books, it was not his place to write or make any more WoT content any longer. He didn’t want to dishonor the series by making extra books or adaptations. His job wad to solely write the finale and that was it.
“Hollywood doesn’t know what to do with people who don’t need their money”
That was such a boss-ass move it made me emotional, I'm so happy he's leading the charge, unproblematic king!
Super excited! I can’t wait to see what comes of this!
Profit is more than just money and Brandon knows that.
Kind of a confusing moment as he signs books for the money and says “I don’t need their money”.
Confusing because he’s right, he doesn’t need the money, but he’s just signing books to please fans it would seem.
Baller moment.
"Hollywood does not what to do with people who don't need their money. It's very bizarre to them."
I don't know exactly why but this is hilarious. The fact that they're so used to that "money = yes" mindset that when someone says "eh I don't need it" it baffles them is extremely funny
For sure! 😂 I know some actors are like that too but not many! Money talks!
Hollywood would rather buy an Arthur out for the movie, show, whatever so they won’t have to follow the writers story and do what they think sales and wins them awards. That’s what keeps movie makers in business. Not what the characters are truly suppose to be.
The only think that changes current thoughts is how Disney makes movies and season. The season explain the story and movie sales the action. That’s the way to go I guess.
The real power of 'not needing the money' is:
First he can actually ask for more money because he doesn't need the money. This may seem like the opposite, but in reality it's because he can say no to a ton of cash which lets him ask for a ton more cash. If Hollywood goes to some low income John Doe Author and offer him 60k and that's x2 his yearly salary for the rights to his books he is going to say yes because he really needs that money and he doesn't want to scare them away by asking for too much. But you offer Brandon 1 million he can laugh and say "come back when you can offer 5". (I'm of course just making up numbers here... I don't actually know what the amounts Brandon would actually be able to ask for. But you should get the point.)
Secondly it means he can negotiate for more creative control because he can afford to give up some money to make sure he keeps the rights to casting or final say on scripts and such. This is usually one thing that most Authors need to give up right away because they just need the cash and so are willing to give up too much control because they need the deal.
One side effect of being able to command so much money for his works is that they are more likely to get done. If a Hollywood company only pays 50k or so for the rights to an IP, this is such chump change to them that they can afford to just shelve the project if they find it's not convenient for them to make it. They can write that off. But if they have to put up real money just to get the rights, it motivates them to actually commit to the project.
It also means they are going to dump a lot more into the budget of said project. If they spent 50k for the rights, they can put 500k into the project and if they make 1 mil that's all they need for the project to be a positive investment for them. But if they spend 1 mil+ on the rights, they will need to dump some real coin into the budget too since they need this to be a blockbuster in order to make it a positive investment overall.
If they are smart, they will also likely want a much more high profile director team to take on the project too, since they are putting so much money into it they don't want an untested newbie when so much money is on the line.
Dude when I saw Arcane, the first thing I thought was, "Holy shit. Imagine Mistborn made like this."
I would love that so much! But I know Sanderson has his heart on a live action mistborn. Still maybe he could do a side series or something animated in the same world.
For me Mistborn can be done very well live action. I think translating the whole SA into live action will be very difficult and I feel animation will suit it better. Unless we're talking about WoK and WoR, those I feel can be done well in live action.
Same feeling but with SA i would love to see it animate, all the sprens, the action, the world it would be amazing! Hope he considers it
There is no way the power system of Mistborn will look good as live action.
Either Anime style or Arcane style. My opinion.
I'm so excited to see what comes of this, a Stormlight Archive adaptation done right I believe would be wildly successful
Oh i hope it is! I want to see this guy explode into pop culture!
This is probably Mistborn adaptation tho
@@Auxzap Mistborn comes first, but i believe Stormlight is close behind.
Stormlight Archive needs to be finished first. The first 5 at the very least. The people who make TV shows seem to really fail when they get ahead of the source material. I wouldn't mind an Elantris adaptation.
I really hope he does what Harry potter did, and keep his casting rights. That way you don't have actors out of left field, who are cheap, but also don't match the character at all. Hollywood is incestuous in that regard. You deserve to make the show that you envisioned when writing your books. I also want him to make a game out of his worlds.
I think he is working on some game adaptations as well!
If possible i'd love somthing like Arcane. I think animation is better than live action. Stormlight or Mistborn would be amazing.
@@zylertilleman3408 100% agree.
@@zylertilleman3408 animated stormlight would be so much more inferior than a live-action. It deserves to be in the upper tiers with LoTR and GoT, and limiting it to animated mediums closes off a large audience, and also makes it less of an epic for me.
@@Coltaine_ I think live action would be more limiting. There is only so much you can do with sets and a limited CGI budget (regardless of how big that limit is). With animation you could make the massive battles and fight sequences look far better as there is far less restriction with regards to artistic style.
I don't think an author could be in a better position to dictate terms to Hollywood - good for you Brandon!
Honestly most authors aren't so it's cool Brandon can be. And I get it. if an author needs money they'll sell the rights for a big payday and often aren't able to negotiate having power over the film. If they try and the studio decides it's not worth it they could withdraw their offer.
@@cosmerejunkie7931 yep, Brandon sold his first rights when he was just starting and basically broke. He sold them for $30k and that was insane money to him, like yearly wage
@@LeoStep93 I believe it was 30K a year for 4-5 years or something like that. That would be a pretty sweet gif just starting out
Love Brandon attitude when it comes to money. We the people, would much rather see his books come to life the way they were meant too instead of how some Hollywood smooch wants to change it for awards and rating.
Keep it true and it will sale. Love it..
So stoked!
@@cosmerejunkie7931 would love to see Manu Bennett as Gavilar Kholin or someone close to him. Accent and look and demeanor he Carry just screams Gavilar too me.
Maybe gal gabot as Yesenia kholin. Strong, beautiful, and an air or sophistication about her.
Yeah those two things do put him in an amazing negotiating position. He's free to walk away from any of them and lose nothing, and there isn't another up and coming author of his renown who hasn't had a series made to go to for the next thing. I'm very glad he's taking it slow and making sure to choose the people he wants to work with and the deal he wants. I also really agree with how he talks about adaptations in general. Where his focus is on keeping the essence of the story, and telling the best story possible for that medium, not in being absolutely loyal to everything in the book as some changes need to be made and are good for the story. It's just not changing things just to change them but for a reason. And not losing why people love this thing in the mix.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. This is exactly how I feel.
He's also getting experiences in the tv/film by working with Amazon on The Wheel of Time series. Hopefully he learns a lot in time for Stormlight Archive
"and there isn't another up and coming author of his renown who hasn't had a series made to go to for the next thing"
Ok, this is moronic. There a ton of other fantasy authors that could be the next big thing like Joe Abercrombie. Let's not be crazy here.
@@RespectTheSourceMaterial there are certainly other fantasy authors. There aren't any that have his level of sales though.
@@tadious9415 Abercrombie and rothfuss come close though. Remember that if you have sold millions of books then they'll probably come and ask. That's what matters.
Wot had sold 80M copies and asoiaf 12 M and still asoiaf managed to break through the pop culture not wot.
2 years later and no announcements. Sad
God, I really hope they do mistborn first. Not because I think it's the greatest Sanderson property (but definitely amazing), but because it has a tight story, good magic that's understandable, and also would hit so many demographics who are unaware of the Cosmere. It has a heist component, a good female character at the point, a little romance, and what could be amazing fights if the CGI is done properly.
Right? And enough of the powers wouldn’t need CGI like tin, copper or zink. It’s a good first try since it won’t be as CGI heavy as other books like Stormlight
@@cosmerejunkie7931 yah, I think it could be a strong YA-ish style adaptation with some darker elements in the second and 3rd volume. Almost like Harry Potter did. Make it light and fun season/movie 1, then end a bit darker and the seasons or movies get darker and darker until it's almost an adult-themed property by the end of the 3rd. Plus if it's a success, it allows the second era of Mistborn to give a producer 7+ seasons or movies to rake in the cash from.
I hope Brandon keeps an Iron grip on whatever is done. Something where he has to aprove it at multiple steps changes he recommends have to be done. Something where Brandon can say honestly at the start "I'm Brandon Sanderson, and I aprove this (form of adaptation)"
That would be cool. I think Brandon is the first person to admit that he's not the best film maker or screen writer so I think he's humble enough to defer to people who are better at their jobs than he is. However, I hope he's firm when it comes to character arcs to preserve the essence of the story. It's an adaptation so there will of course be lots of changes. Hopefully he can make sure the heart of the story is the same tho.
This response filled me with such joy I can't even describe it. If we ever get an adaptation it will be at the full behest of Sando, a man known for prioritising quality over financial gain (which in turn actually led to financial gain because people want quality).
It’ll be his first real attempt at an adaptation (not counting WoT) so if it isn’t mind blowing I understand. I do hope he keeps adapting and gets better as he goes!
It’s about time!! I want this done correctly. This is so important and should be taken with care.
Way excited!
I hope Stormlight gets a better adaption than Witcher, Shadow & Bone, & 2nd half of GoT
Fingers crossed! But I doubt they start there
@@cosmerejunkie7931 the dream is Vince Gilligan doing the Cosmere as his next project now that Better Call Saul is wrapping up
Seeing this on recommended and then realizing about the 2y ago is heartbreaking
I can potentially see White Sand becoming an animation as a first/early project
That could be fun
I found the mistborn series by chance, and I am happy I stumbled upon it.
It’s a fantastic series!
Yeeeeeees! I am SO glad that you get to be discerning and picky! Nothing could make me any happier!
Can’t wait for both adaptations. Super excited for the official announcement!
Are we just going to ignore that he didn't list off WoT when he talked about good fantasy shows being made 💀
I totally missed that! 😅
It wasn't a great first season. I'm surprised he didn't say anything about it though.
I legitimately read this, felt like it was something I would say, and I used to have an almost identical picture to your profile picture. And then only came back when I realized "wait 1h ago??? I didn't comment on anything tonight"
In defense of that omission, regardless of the quality of the adaptation (which I've heard is mixed, putting it kindly), he might not consider it his in the same way that, say, a Mistborn adaptation would be his, or a Stormlight adaptation. Wheel of Time is Robert Jordan's, and in his absence is presided over by those in charge of his estate. Brandon simply ghostwrote the last few books.
@@Landis963 The issue isn't that he said he doesn't have adaptations being made of his works. Its that he listed off some examples of very good new fantasy property series like witcher and arcane but didn't include the wheel of time adaptation among them
"Hollywood doesn't know what to do with people who don't need their money." What a badass!
100% This!
Big Money Sanderson, or B$ as they call him 😎
@@LeoStep93 EYOOO!
The people who animated castlevania would be amazing for mistborn.
Arcane too, but I think Sanderson wish is too be full live action which with a decent budget can be made
I am so nervous that they will take his genius his writings, his stories, and his work and ruin them as so many adaptations have before. Please don’t allow Hollywood destroy the art you have created
Valid concerns
God, i need the First Law Trilogy or The age of Madness tv series
Haha I'll take anything at this point!
First Law is much more filmable than most other fantasy. I'm honestly surprised somebody hasn't jumped on that yet seeing how similar it is to GoT it is.
Yeah, we need that Nick Cage Glokta. :>
You do you mr sanderson. Journey before destination!
Man I hope Brandon manages to get/make good adaptions. In particular, I really hope he can negotiate licenses that don’t prevent future adaptions. Live Action adaptions are ok and I know they generally get more views but I really think Brandons work would be incredible animated. From Mistborn and Stormlight to Sixth of the Dusk and Emperor’s soul.
I want Mistborn and Warbreaker made into tv shows like how Arcane was done, seems like a good fit for those series
Do you think there’s enough story for a show there?
For Mistborn, both Era 1&2, there's definitely enough story. Warbreaker has it too but it would probably get the GoT season 8 treatment if the story for screen isn't done right
with mistborn, I believe they should make it into a movie... specially era 1... they can make a trilogy and finish it with the third book.
Yeah I'd rather wait a few more years if it means the books won't be disgraced
Same! Some people give him a hard time for writing secret projects when he could have been writing Stormlight 5. But he's said he'd get burned out without variety and projects in-between. It keeps him fresh.
Blink once for Mistborn, blink twice for Stormlight
if they REALLY make good work together with Sanderson, for ex "Mistborn" or "Stormlight" or "Steelheart" - this thing will go very very big!
Be as picky as you can be! Once these series come to the screens I wouldn't expect anything short of perfection!
And none of those "good at first but falls short after episode 3/4*
Fingers crossed it’s great!
I am hoping Brandon's books are getting picked up at the right time: after a bunch of successes and flops that both him, the fans, and the studios are all aware this can be successful but that there absolutely is a wrong way to adapt fantasy material that simply won't work. That is: making it cheaply, making something into Game of Thrones that isn't, drastically rewriting the story to somehow make it more palatable to viewers (usually as perceived by execs), trying to cater to what fans are asking for (fans don't know what they actually want/need), etc. I am hoping that Hollywood has seen these bad attempts and has taken notes and learned from theirs and others' mistakes.
I think because it has taken Brandon so long to get picked up that he might have avoided the surge of bad productions, but at the point where studios still want to do fantasy adaptations and fund them well.
It is likely that LotR will flop, and I am worried that studios will suddenly drop Brandon's material again. But hopefully neither of those things happen. If LotR does fail, it needs to be shouted out on social media and by critics that it is because of a betrayal of the source material. Because execs forced artists and writers to focus on representation, rather than trying to be representative. By that, I mean they insert token actors in but fail to use their talents, tell a story with the character, etc. TV shows trying to be "woke" and "shoe horn in" representation isn't the real problem (it's the newest fad that companies are chasing, like how 3D animation dominated the PG movie space from late 90s to early 2010s) but not doing anything to actually create a good and entertaining story.
Hope for the best, expect the worst. But it's fun to also let yourself feel a little excitement along the way! Even if it does lead to disappointment.
I hope LOTR flops and it allows Brandon to get more creative control by telling studios his way is the only way to success!
@@tct8284 ooooh I never hope someone else’s show flops my dude. Hope for the best! Rings of power won’t have anything to do with his show and Brandon has already said he’s being very picky with which studio he works with so he can have the most control over the adaptation possible
@@cosmerejunkie7931 just my opinion.... IDK how Hollywood negotiations work.... some weird LOTR Prequel vs the Cosmere its not even close what I care about more. I liked the video.
To be fair he has had rights sold in the past, early in his career - did you know that DreamWorks had the rights to make an animated movie based on Alcatraz vs the Evil Librarians? They passed it up for Joe To Train Your Dragon in the end. That Hollywood money really helped him out when he was still fresh. Then Stormlight happened and now he's a bit more discriminating.
Hope it will turn out well !!!
Fingers crossed! Thanks for stopping by!
I think after the fact they kept Sando on as advisor for WOT and didn't take any of his advice probably opened his eyes. Even with great source material show runners will still try to write there own shit and ignore he source material.
Some great points. I think adapting a book to a film has to be one of the hardest things to do since if you’re too loyal to the source material it can really mess it up.
@@cosmerejunkie7931 lord of the rings for example books are way to slow to be made directly into a movie. And people love that adaptation.
"They didn't take any of his advice" is completely wrong. Brandon's gone on at length about what he did and didn't contribute. They listened to a *lot* of his advice and character bits on WoT, he just didn't get final say on some of the bigger changes (like Perrin's wife). : They also have him in a heavier more involved role for season 2. If they were completely ignoring him he wouldn't bother.
@@robbybevard8034 Even without that, it is a very hubristic showrunner indeed who is helming an adaptation of a work and does not take shameless advantage of every scrap of material the original author (or in WoT's case, the original writing team, as it eventually grew to be) has to offer. The example of Game of Thrones is illustrative here: when the showrunners ran out of GRRM's original work, the dialogue grew clumsy, the plotting grew convenient, and the conclusion... well, there's been far enough energy spent on the state of the conclusion of Game of Thrones, hasn't there?
@@Landis963 The difference in this case is, Gaem of Thrones didn't have enough material to fill 8 seasons.
Wheel of Time has enough material to do 15 or 20 seasons, 400 episodes... and its never ever ever going to be that. At best its going to be 70-80, maybe 8 years. It HAS to adapt and condense and change and do things differently. It's never going be everything the books were, it has to change.
l don't agree with a lot of those changes, or the over the top gore, overall I give the first season maybe a 5/10, I'm not excited about it. But I do understand the changes. Things like emphasizing Logain more early on or giving everyone but Rand more to do in the first season make sense. Saving the royal family for season 2 makes sense.
It was always going to have to be a different story in someways. I won't object at all if the show cuts the Morgase plot entirely, for instance. She was a major character that had a lot of chapters dedicated to her, but...
It's an adaptation. It HAS to cut and scrimp and change. There was never going to be tiem or budget to do the books exactly, so if it wants to cover the whole story it had to start changing course early and often.
As a future writer (or wannabe) I can say that selling your book to Hollywood is always a good choice. It's a win-win situation:
1- They make a great movie... then you will sell tones of books. The Martian is a great example.
2- They make a horrible movie... everyone is going to say the book was better.
See? Win-win situation LOL
I see lol! If it’s terrible we will all still have the books!
It's true. I think it was even Sanderson that pointed out book sales usually triple even with bad adaptations.
But man, I really want to see the adaptations done well.
Bro backing up your statements by saying you're a wannabe future writer, like that adds any weight to what you say, makes no sense.
Not really, they make a bad movie and then you won't get another adaptation for at least 20-30 years if you ever get it. The dark tower movie pushed back a dark tower show for who knows how long.
@@CHotell96 It does make sense because is what I would do, but obviously you didn't get it.
I trust Brandon with this. Especially because he will have his pick of the lot, and he now has a lot of experience, even if not directly, with amazon and the WoT Adaption
I agree. I'm excited to see what he does. But I also hope he saves his most complicated works like WOK until he's had more practice with some of his other properties
I am not worried. It’s obvious to me that Brandon is not going to say yes to anybody for the sake of just having it made. I believe that Brandon will choose wisely and we will get a quality product in return. It saddens me a bit that we will have to wait a little longer for Stormlight 5, but experience has taught me that if one has to wait to get the best possible product then we wait.
True! I think Sanderson having so much control is the biggest comfort.
I’m slightly worried, but only because Brandon has stated that there are things that he felt he got wrong that he wants to do right in the adaptation. The problem is that some of these things he’s claiming he wants to “get right” the second go-round aren’t really problems, just things he perceives as problematic after someone points it out to him.
Spoilers for Mistborn book 1:
A good example of something he regrets doing that he hopes is bettered in an adaptation is Vin suddenly being able to control the mists at the end of The Final Empire. He calls it her gaining a new power at the 90% mark because, even if he later retconned in an explanation for it in a later book, it seems out of nowhere. He’s hoping an adaptation will fix that by adding in stories or legends of people being able to control the mists or something in that vein. I agree with this change, as it would make her doing it in the end seem less jarring and improve the story and how it functions.
Something that he sees as a problem that does *not* need fixing, on the other hand, is having one of the crew members be female in the adaptation. There’s no inherent story problem with having Vin being the only girl in the crew while all the other crew members are male. In fact, it adds a nuance to her arc that would be changed if one of them was female. Vin learning to open up to a group of men is distinctly harder for her because she’s the only girl in the group and she’s still distrusting of one of them betraying her in some form or another. She’s the only girl in what is very much a man’s world: the only reason female skaa aren’t sold directly to the whorehouses is because they could be useful for a job because of their allomancy or feminine charm. The implied fear of sexual assault is very prevalent throughout the book, and while I’m not saying that a woman can’t assault another woman, it’s a much less common fear than a young woman fearing being taken by a group of men around her. Not to mention, when female crew members do show up in book 2, Vin is immediately distrusting towards them.
If anything, it brings me back to what Sanderson himself warned The Wheel of Time’s showrunner would happen if they went the route they did with Perrin at the start of the show: having a character do something so horrible would mean they would have to be extremely responsible in how they handled him reacting to it, and they ultimately weren’t able to follow through on that. I think Sanderson has good intentions with making one of the crew female, but ultimately I think he’s doing it so that he can appease a very niche group and his own conscience instead of doing it because it will serve the story better. While this IS the sort of thing that could make for an interesting dynamic in a book (where you’d have time to explore the nuances of females interacting as major players in a predominately male landscape), a film has much less time to explore those things, especially when there’s as much plot to unpack in it as there will be for Mistborn. It just seems to be a change done for the sake of change and not because it will inherently be better for the story overall. However, Sanderson is extremely intelligent and will likely have realized most of this by now on his own if someone hasn’t brought it up to him already. I trust that if he sticks to his convictions and makes this change that he’ll have considered the ripple effect it’ll have in the story and write the adaptation treatment accordingly.
Please please please don't screw this up! We want a faithful adaptation of mistborn so bad!
Let's get an adaptation that is actually faithful to the source material and not just some tonally estranged fan fic version like Wheel of Time ended up being.
And if we end up going the animated route, hopefully it is something as visually spectacular and well written as Arcane
Man I love Arcane. adapting books is hard. You gotta make changes but it's difficult to find the right changes to keep the heart of the story. I'm excited!
Speaking of animated, I could also see something like "Legend of Vox Machina" working really well. A somewhat unique retelling that heavily paid homage to the source material while condensing something incredibly lengthy...
Brandon needs to be heavily involved in the making of any adaptation as to avoid another Wheel of Time disaster.
That and I hope they get great writers, directors and talent.
Yes!!!!
Wheel of Time certainly had its issues, but it's far from what I could consider a disaster of an adaptation like say Eragon or the live action Avatar was. Wheel of Time had more changes than I would've liked, and some that seemed strange to me. But as a whole the actors nailed their roles, they told a good story, they brought some nice action scenes and when things didn't fit what did happen in the books, it generally did fit with what could have happened plausibly with those characters in a slightly different scenario. It's also just the first season. Many of my favorite shows have bad to meh first seasons. And Sanderson was involved in that to some degree, and I think they'll also realize the things people didn't like are a lot of what he told them ahead of time wouldn't go well.
@@tadious9415 I couldn’t get through 3 episodes. It was horrendous. Brandon’s involvement was giving suggestions and them completely ignoring said suggestions. They don’t like the wheel of time, so decided to write their own story and slap the Wheel of Time name on it. Many people tapped out after like 3 episodes because of how bad it was, most much bigger WoT fans than me. A director can have room to deviate from the source material a little and still be respectful to it, LOTR movies are a great example, but it seems as if Rafe read a synopsis of WoT, didn’t like it, thought he can write something better, so threw the source material out the window. And saying WoT show isn’t as big a disaster as Eragon or Avatar isn’t a complement😂 it just adds a name to that list imo.
@@tadious9415 additionally, the actors are the thing that took me out of the story to begin with, because they look NOTHING like their book descriptions, save perhaps Rand, Mat, and Moiraine
Awesooooomeeeeeeeee! Give me some B Sanderson adaptations please! I just really hope they do it well and don't ruin and undermine how good his books are.
Preach my friend! Worst case scenario we'll still have the books! So long as he keeps writing them! Also, thanks for stopping by! I really appreciate it!
i am perfectly willing to see Brandon slow down a bit if it means we get his work in other forms of Media as well.
Same! As long as the cosmere is still finished in his lifetime haha
Whatever gets made, the internet will hate it and it will be hilarious. I'd love to see one of the 1990s classic films that were book adaptations come out today.
Forrest Gump you actually COULD say 'this is just fanfic based on one faithful character from the book'. Film Jenny is unrecognisable, and the film made up huge arcs.
Jurassic Park had a few big changes that changed Nedry's motivations and also changed other things to set up for sequels.
Fight Club was also less faithful to the source material than WoT or GoT were.
All of them turned out pretty well, even if with Jurassic Park the book was clearly better. They'd all be hated today.
Even LOTR had huge backlash on the budding new internet for not being “faithful” to the books. Now they are adored. It’s impossible to be completely faithful. You just hope it captures the heart of the books
@@cosmerejunkie7931 exactly. Or improves on parts while losing as little as possible
I want mistborn films!! That would be dope, although there still doubt since hollywood have a tendency to f up book adaptations
I'm really hoping Warbreaker is first for live action, it could work well in animation too, but seeing it in live action would be amazing (if done well).
OHHH I love that one! It would be really hard to get the returned's auras right. They affect color everywhere they go and that would be tough to animate.
It is also probably the most visual of the main Cosmere magic systems along with Elantris.
Either that or Emperor's Soul.
Emperor's Soul could, if done in a nice art house way, has potential to be a really interesting, personal story that can sweep in awards season.
He loves the Dune film. Thats exactly the kind of adaptation he and we want. Should not be that difficult, riight?
Lol
I think Stormlight Archive with Arcane like animation and I can die happy
Performance bond. In major construction projects there is often a performance bond, if you get the contract and you dont get the product built on time and in spec you get huge fines per day and all that goes against a very big bond. So when they want to option a IP make them put a performance bond up. The non serious and IP campers will vanish.
I just always pictured the stories as a Hayao Miyazaki style art, but with the intensity that Attack on Titan can bring. Maybe a little milder.
I'd go for an Arcane vibe. I'll be happy with whatever but would love to see live action.
"Hollywood does not know what to do with people who don't need their money" gave me Harlan Ellison vibes in a good good way. It seems like everyone always tries to treat the writers / creators as these incidental people who are just sort of there to be paid off so that the REAL product can be made...
...Sanderson IS Stormlight Achives, Sanderson IS Mistborn, Sanderson IS the Cosmere universe...without his hard work and effort those things simply do not exist.
...good for him for holding out until he can pen a deal where HIS vision for HIS work will be realized. Amazon took WOT and turned it into a 6/10 show (and that's probably being a bit generous depending on the episode in question). He should absolutely keep creative control of his work until he finds someone that's willing to do it right.
I wish people had this same feeling in regards to J. K. Rowling. I won’t be going into whether her views are right or wrong, because that’s not what’s up for debate here, but people saying that anything for the Wizarding World NEEDS to be made without her involvement from here on out is kidding themselves.
If someone says that she IS Harry Potter or that she IS Fantastic Beasts, the twitter mob would automatically attack you and spout “death of the author” arguments. Whether you agree with her views or not, she IS those works. She poured her heart and soul into them and they ended up working to varying results. People need to remember that and respect it, especially if, like Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson, they owe their entire careers to her. Anytime people who profited off of the success of someone’s work vilifies them while still raking in the profits behind closed doors, it infuriates me.
I hope it’s great! But since it’s his first adaptation I get it if he is learning along the way and getting better as he goes
@@cosmerejunkie7931 Yeah, Sanderson is this great combination of incredibly talented writer and shrewd businessman...it's honestly really refreshing to see.
I hate seeing "creatives" who make amazing things, but don't know how to manage the commercial aspect...and, consequently, getting screwed out of the fruits of their own labor.
Ellison was a maniac, but his stance on "paying the author" is spot on even now. Self-publishing and small studio production teams become more and more possible every year with technology. Writers don't need Hollywood...Hollywood needs the writer.
Stormlight Archive should be animated.
I’d honestly love it either way
"Hollywood doesn't know what to do with people who don't need their money" I remember reading that there was going to be a 90s Sandman adaptation, and when Neil Gaiman found out what it was going to entail, he personally intervened to ensure it didn't happen.
I heard these studios like to but rights that they never use. I hope when the rights get sold, something actually gets made
He’s sold stuff before that never get sold. But he’s said this time they are much more serious because of the kickstarter
The clear and intentional omission of Wheel of Time at the beginning of this clip is... sad in many, many ways. Some of us waited 30 years for that adaptation. It should not have gone to the people it did.
I wish it had been better. But at least we still have the books!
Please please Hollywood if your making a Stormlight tv series do not f this up I want it to be prefect none of that whitewashing, race and gender swapping garbage you pull and though I personally would like an Animated project if it must be Live Action I want Parshendi that are just guys and gals in makeup I want top notch CGI like just please please don’t screw this up.
Only the best for Sanderson's Adaptations! I'm glad he's being picky!
Though question, assuming the Cosmere got adapted into multiple movies/ shows how would the timeline and everything work for the release order? Marvel makes it to where you have to watch a bunch of different shows & films to get the current story (best example being you have to watch Wandavision to understand Dr. Strange 2). Star Wars tell their stories out of order and it can get confusing to know when what takes place
Well the first book in the cosmere is going to be DragonSteel from Hoid's perspective and Sanderson won't write that until after The way of Kings and Mistborn. So they likely won't tell it as one cohesive series. It would likely be multiple seperate properties like the books. Those who know will know. Anyways, Thanks so much for watching!
THE DESCRIPTION LOL
Haha! I'm glad someone noticed it! 🙏
If the directors and actors don't ask questions that require a RAFO from him: THEY AREN'T THE ONES! And please don't make every accent British. Don't give me some 5'3" actor in SHARDPLATE! I need to HATE Moash. The fused need to be regal and visually intimidating. I need a good 3-4 episodes of the first season to show the horrors of bridge 4, not a 3 min montage. I swear to god I don't trust Hollywood to do this. I need to hear the tones of Roshar, 100 DISCORDANT RYTHMS! Odium needs to instill dIvine dread. Taravangian needs to be a proper mad lad, dont give me some 20 year old actor with a crappy joker laugh and a bad wig. If I don't get chills when Syl says "SPEAK THE WORDS", don't even bother with it. I NEED proper split-personality Shallan, if Sanderson isnt overseeing it I just know were going to get a some actress who slept with someone to get the position and has 0 facial expressions and bad accents.
Arcane appreciation always welcome
No one hates Arcane. It’s truly masterful
YYYYYEEEEEESSSSS don’t sell out make your fans proud!!!!!!! Hell live action kinda sucks when compared to anime/ cartoon and we have seen live action do poorly more often then not
Super excited no matter what they do. I hope we get a mix of live action and animation
Please get Fortiche to do and animated adaptation of Stormlight!!!
That would be really fun to watch! I'm not much of a gamer sadly but I'd love to see someone take a crack at it!
Subscribe or Lift will steal your Pancakes!
Jokes on you I'd be honored if Lift stole my pancakes!!
@@tadious9415 I can’t argue with that logic! 😂
Just really hoping he does say yes to someone before the winds of interest blow somewhere else
It sounds like he’s already said yes which is why he said. “I can’t announce it yet. But if they come out and they are great it may take more of my time.” I bet he’s got some deals in place. He’s just legally not able to tell us what it is yet.
I would love it to be either the Mistborn series, or the less taked about, Rekoners series.
Reckoners would be a great way to cut his teeth on filmmaking
I feel like Reckoners would be really tricky since it would draw a lot of comparison to The Boys...
@@brendanh1745 I see your point, but I think the setting would set it apart from The Boys.
Chicago being made of Steel, New York being half underwater, and of course the travelling city of sand. And I love the crazy, secret weaknesses the super powered have, and the protagonist catagoring them all.
I think overall, it would have a very different feel if done right. But I don’t think they’ll make it anyway.
It’s still likely to be Stormlight. Although, Mistborn would be great.
Hopefully we don’t get another Eragon movie.
Agreed
Don’t let Hollywood make it
I hope they don't ruin your books like they did with The Wheel of Time.
Luckily they didn’t ruing the wheel of time books! Just the show :)
B-Money doesn’t need Hollywood‘s Money.
Put it on a T-Shirt
Um, what happened to those guys who optioned Mr. Sanderson's stuff (or at least the Cosmere stuff) a while back? Did they fail to renew? Did Mr. Sanderson balk at renewal? Were there any screenplays made under the option, and if so, what are their use potential statuses?
The reason I'm asking is that I'm nearly finished with a possible screenplay for "The Emperor's Soul." I'm afraid it will be ready too late for Final Draft's current Big Break writing contest, and I have no idea how they would judge adapted screenplays.
If Mr. Sanderson asks for the most recent copy, I can provide it for him at a moment's notice, but for him and him alone.
Those are some great questions! Sadly I don’t know the answers to them! That’s awesome you’re writing a screen play! I loved Emperor’s Soul
Hollywood purchases what is called an option. Basically it is the right to buy the movie for a given amount of time. So if a movie doesn’t get made the option lapses and the rights return to Brandon. This is why Sony will make a spider-man movie every couple of years, otherwise the rights return to marvel.
Yup! In fact sanderson sold several adaptation rights for his books but they were never made. Now he’s in a great position where he has all his rights and can start negotiating hard since he doesn’t care about their money and they really want his properties with his recent success
"movie and TV stuff"
Oh no
We just need to remember that the movie and TV stuff can't hurt our books! We'll still have them and maybe more people will find them!
Imagine a CCU cosmere cinematic universe to overtake The comic movies and GoT. The crossovers…. My god the crossovers.
Wait, where is the full thing?
There is a full spoiler video on Brandon Sanderson's UA-cam Channel. Search him up and I think it's his second latest video on the channel right now.
I wish he could do what marvel did after Iron Man, make his own studio and manage his property and respect the source material. I see the cosmere as the next MCU if it is done right.
Wouldn't that be awesome! The thing is though once Disney bought Marvel their budget skyrocketed! And while the creatives had control their quality was great! Now Bob Chapek is squeezing the life out of the property!
If Brandon can keep control but have the backing funds of a major studio I think it would be the best of both worlds!
It cracks me up because you can tell that this was specifically dumb-ass execs watching Brandon make a lot of money and saying "hey we should get some of that"
Haha right? That kickstarter did wonders!
I thought DMG had the rights of cosmere. So it timed out, right?
I honestly don’t know the answer to that
1:09 Actually, the best selling work of fiction that has never been made into a movie would be Mao Tse-Tung's "Little Red Book," though calling that literature may be stretching things. ;)
Haha lol
Let me get an HBO Game Of Thrones budget Mistborn or Stormlight series and I can die happy.
R.I.P
He should form his own production company and take a credit as producer, make sure he always has final script approval, input on casting, who gets to direct and what style of film it should be, he should go for at least the same amount of creative control as Rowling had on the Potter movies.
I hope so too!
I totally agree! That way Brandon could also aim people in the right direction, with him knowing his books in and out 👏👏👏
mistborn in animation will feel like arcane
Hopefully they get arcane level animation
Mr Sanderson, please, keep your work safe, keep it true.
Sanderson FTW
100% I'm so thankful I'm younger than him so I have a better chance of seeing his life's work.
Brandon to hollywood: I don't need your money.
Hollywood: But...but....what?
😂
I feel like the final empire could be a good movie but i feel like the way of Kings would be insanely hard to do
I agree. it’s have to be a show. And I wouldn’t want them to start with it
Stormlight Archives deserve 8-10 1h episodes per book made by the guys from Arcane or Catlevania
Link to original interview?
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@@cosmerejunkie7931 thanks!
Joder dímelo Brandon DIMELOOOOOO
So excited!
Don't let your books become the next Eragon! Strive for the Lord of the Rings-
level quality!
That would be heartbreaking
Where is this interview from?
His most recent Reddit AMA (they transcribed what he said) but the video is on his channel.
His UA-cam channel! :)
Thanks guys!
What do yall think is the earliest we'll be seeing adaptions of Brandon's works? 2025? Whenever it may be, I can't wait!
Try 2035
Nah for sure before that
I bet mid to late 2020’s. 2025 is totally possible if they are ramping up to an announcement right now
I sure hope they do a better job in adapting his books than they did for The Wheel of Time series, which sucked.
Please Gawd, don't go to CW
I would probably cry lol
00:15
Proof that Brandon Sanderson doesn't think WoT Show was good.
It is odd he left that one out haha
Is the full interview posted anywhere?
Yes, Brandon did a a AMA yesterday on his UA-cam channel. You should just be able to search his name to find the channel
@@cosmerejunkie7931 are there any spoilers in there? I haven't read everything in the cosmere yet
@@lordfifthissth8258 yes it’s ask me anything so you would be likely to get some spoilers for some of the books. However I also uploaded the clip of him talking about his conversations with Hollywood if you go to my channel. It’s my second newest video right now.
@@cosmerejunkie7931 thank you for the help
Of course! Thanks for the support! 🙏 It means the world!
animation would be great like Arcane
I 100% agree
Just don't let it be like the dumpster fire that is the Wheel of Time show.
That had a very troubled production. Hopefully they can get their feet under them with Season 2
@@cosmerejunkie7931 from the stuff I've seen so far it doesn't look likely. The show runner doesn't respect the source material at all.
@@Andrew.Downing From the interviews I've seen where Sanderson discusses the topic it looks like he likes the showrunner and trusts his insticts for preserving the character's emotional journey. A scene for scene adaptation isn't practical for those books so it's about boiling it down to the character arcs which wasn't too bad honestly. The execution just wasn't great.
But lots of TV shows are "finding their footing" the first few seasons before they find their stride. Fingers crossed this is the case.
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AWSOME! Be picky make sure it is done right. R R screwed up with that weak GOT ending. Don't let Stormlight or Mistborn fall to the same fate.
In Brandon we trust!
We need anime studios to work on Cosmere adaptations. Stormlight works way better on animated and US can't do that much well
I think it’s subjective and depends on the talent involved. There is a world where the live action might be the superior adaptation
@@cosmerejunkie7931 I wouldn't disagree but like Eternals was thr closest thing Hollywood has had in terms of what kind of VFX are needed for Stormlight, and we saw how it did.
Animated isn't limited as VFX/CGI is, and US hasn't put out anything as great in that department as Anime have, other than Arcane. If they could strike a deal with studios like Mappa or Ufotable, its gonna be real sick.
And we need best of best for Stormlight.
Also this is assuming Stormlight is popular in Japan too. I haven't seen Japanese edition of the books, which Kingkiller chronicles have a sick one btw, so I don't know how well it is received there.
I totaly agree with you stormlight archives needs to be animated I'll hate to see Kaladin vs Szeth becoming a Neo vs Smith fight yet again
How realistic is it to do what vox machina did?
Hmmm not familiar with that one
They crowdfunded an animated show for prime video for 11 million