Niche buffers are not a problem, the problem is they all suck until C6 and thats a massive investment you have no control over for a niche playstyle as a reward.
Maybe the devs are changing this going forward. Chevreuse's buffing is 5 star level even for c0, she's actually comparable to kazuha buffs. And she gets busted at c6.
@@misipapa3626wait until they fill the next abyss with single bosses with millions of hp and Clorinde overload outclassing your classic vape/dendro etc teams
Id love a cyro support that had a passive that basically said "enemies who cannot be frozen instead become "brittle" brittle enemies take X% increased damage" or something along those lines, maybe a second passive on a con that gives the shatter reaction a massive buff or increasing the duration mobs are frozen for.
Putting all 4* characters in the Starglitter shop would be nice. It would give me hope that I could someday build teams like c6 Lynette + c6 Faruzan. We all know how bad things can turn out when you try to target 4* on a banner, so these non-meta team comps remain locked up. :( Gatcha gonna gatch.
I still don't get why Hoyoverse won't add new characters to the shop. New weapons? Ok, maybe, just MAYBE that's forgivable, but we have been stuck with the exact same 4⭐️ characters since the beginning of the game. Is now time for a change! And when I say a change, I don't mean new materials for the shop.
@@Otherface even if hoyo wanted to get money out of ppl, at least make it just a little less obvious maybe sync it with the chronicled wish banner or something - if it ends up following the theme of regions, let all the 4 stars of that region be available in the shop for the duration of the banner. that way, that banner could pull in more moolah if ppl try to go for the 4 stars, or the limited banners in that phase get a boost if ppl roll on them instead to get more starglitter
Nilou definitely counts as a niche buffer. She's just so good at it that it becomes generic, similar to Xianyun and Chevreuse. Same type of restriction as Chevreuse as well. No ones playing Bloom without Nilou except maybe Neuvilette with Baizhu and that isn't for the reaction.
The thing with Chevreuse is that she buffs Pyro characters that deemed bad in comparison with other top Pyro characters because they only had standard ICD in their kit that they can't do vape most of the time. At the same time she buffs the whole team's damage so it doesn't matter that they don't get strong reaction damage if every hit of everyone hits like a truck. It's also easy to keep a 100% uptime and isn't very strict with character rotation.
Chevreuse Overload to be precise. Overload as a reaction is bad, but Chevy makes it that it empowers the whole team with 40% Pyro/Electro RES shred and up to 40% ATK with 100% uptime. It also adds to up to 60% Pyro/Electro DMG bonus at C6, and that's on Chevy alone. Which is insane since you can add another Pyro or Electro team buffer like Fish or Benny to empower the whole team and not just Arlecchino
I think the problem with Shenhe is that she was designed not even as Ayaka support, but as a pure mono Cryo support. This is the team where her buffs give the most. However, Cryo really lacks a strong sub-dps character (and good characters in general), so those teams always turn out to be lackluster.
The best off-field cryo we have is probably Ganyu and she's an old unit. Add Kazuha and there's still 1 slot left for hopefully some new cryo unit. Maybe someone like Arlecchino or Neuvilette that can self-heal and deals good damage.
Chevreuse was definitely a blessing to my account and I don't even have her c6. Abyss bosses became a lot easier with Raiden Xiangling Bennett Chevreuse team.
Something I like a lot about niche characters is that you can free up a slot from the super high demand supports and use them on the other side, only thing thats annoying is when they lock the potential of said niche behind constellations.
me too. We really could have some debuffers via shatter, where shatter causes a def shred as def shred is rarer than resistance shred. A superconduct support would just be a character that buffs atk when superconduct is triggered and maybe applies a physical DoT.
It's kind of funny to me because people complain when characters are too niche and people also complain when characters have overlapping roles. I don't think niche characters are a problem, but I DO think their issue is almost always needing full cons to be worth it. Needing 7 copies of all these niche buffers is painful. Especially with how terrible of a job they do balancing 4 star rate ups.
I like niche supports tbh. It feels like how the game is SUPPOSED to be instead of the terribly balanced early ones that are to this day on every team and make the game still feel old and never changing while also being new (like getting a cool new Wrio with cool new mechanics only to still see the same brain dead Xiangling Bennett combo for the past 500 years same with Lyney...that is rough to see). I'm hoping Natlan will fix some of that and give us more cool niche supports. With the leaks pointing to cryo getting a buff I'm hoping they can finally have more comps outside of the Pyro duo and freeze.
There's an argument to be made for niche buffers, but I still like their kit design philosophy compared to other Gacha. Before Fontaine, I got no reason to build other healers, never saw crystalize reaction for my units, nor was I building an overloaded team. For my personal playstyle preference to change so quickly and frequently in such a short time, I am currently enjoying the characters they are releasing.
@@purp1e200 The thing is that only benefits Ganyu, Lyney, and maybe Tighnari (depends on the elemental vision of the charged attack buffer). If he/she is pyro, that he/she works very well with melt Ganyu teams and Lyney mono pyro teams but he/she cannot work with Tighnari since he/she will ruin Tighnari's spread reaction because he/she will cause burning reaction instead.
my problem with niche is like the Itto / Gorou case, Itto doesnt have many support options besides Gorou and Gorou doesnt have many uses besides Itto, Itto can be used a weird reverse support hyper carry driver with petra and off field dps characters and Gorou only other uses are Noelle and Chiori, Yunjin and Albedo are supports and nobody needs more defense on their shielders to lose dps and not complete abyss in time, I don't mind characters being niche and I have those two fully upgraded and equiped but when they do niches, those niches need to be a little bit broad like Xianyun that enables so many characters and can fit into so many teams or Faruzan that enhances all anemo, not just an specific stat and an specific element (or everyone in that element uses that stat), if it is too narrow just turn them into Cinnabar Spindles and call it a day -_-
A cryo chevy could be really cool. I think a new stackable 'slow' mechanic would work great for it, one that could even work on unfeezable bosses. They could buff dmg or whatever on how many stacks of slow you have on the enemy and at max stacks they could even freeze/stun for a few seconds where you could get the max buff until you have to reapply the stacks again.
this sounds like SUCH a fun new mechanic to add to make cryo more interesting. imagine the ridiculous reverse melt teams you can make with this feature which has the boss enemies slowed or stunned right before their one shot attacks and then with the use of a pyro character like thoma you can just cancel their animation entirely and do huge damage
If they had a DEF polearm with some ER passive it could help Yun Jin so much. Right now to use her effectively you have to stack basically all her stats into ER and hope the DEF works out
I feel like even though there's niche buffers who literally cannot be used elsewhere, it still works out because they are best in slot for the charecters they buff. As an ayaka lover who lost 50/50 on shenhe last time, I can proudly say I'm skipping clorinde for shenge and it's just for ayaka. Niche charecters provide people with the ability to further invest into the charecters they love without having the RNG of artifacts, that's why they are still so good. Or, well, you can always just build Bennet. (I use him on my non-ayaka team tho)
I love niche buffers, give me more niche buffers, give me a DEF-Scaling Anemo Shielder that buffs Elemental Skill Damage based on their Max DEF like there's so many ways they can make wacky kits from supports and buffers
OooOOO I’d LOVE that! Also finally deviating from DEF scaling being locked to geo -(mostly. I think Xinyan is the only exception with that split scaling)-
It is a misconception that Chevreuse can't use anemo characters. The only buff you miss is the convenient resistance shred ability. Her attack buff and damage buff c6 still works for pyro and electro characters as long as you can produce overload reactions. You can use anemo for cc but shredding both electro and pyro is gonna to be tricky, you would probably want to shred pyro over electro because overload deals pyro damage, so her pyro+anemo option is pretty much restricted to pyro carries.
i think it'd be fun if there was a Hydro/Cryo Nilou that makes freeze more like burning as a frostbite reaction, also slowing enemy movement/attacks. This would enable blizzard strayer on unfreezable mobs as well as shatter on any mobs.
I mean arguably Navia did the same thing just for herself, making Crystalize a viable reaction and encouraging builds that could make the most crystals as possible.
@@Otherface Chiori could have been the petra Zhongli Replacement we could have gotten but she didn't. like they could have made her sub dps and also a support that reduces Geo resistance. and also a res shred dependent on what crystallize shield you attacked the enemy with.
We only need one more Navia for Crystalize, but instead of only for herself but for the rest of the team (basically support Navia). Do those kind of stuffs for other reactions as well.
man i wish they'd put more 4 stars in the the shop, im at c4 Faruzan + close to pity and kinda want sigewinne. it could help alleviate the problem with getting specific 4 stars
The cool thing is that you can play any character you like and clear all the content. My Shenhe is well and healthy. She'll be even stronger by the time the Tsaritsa comes ;)
Tbh I don't think niche buffers are a problem. If they release more universal buffers like furina, it's a good thing. But I think seeing the same character everywhere makes the game less unique and boring. Imo they should release more niche buffers of every type.
Nilou walked so chevruse could run. For you to say sue buffs a reaction but not a character and then talk a character who buffs reactions is a little baffling. Love you jello this was just a waffle moment 😭😤💀
Nilou buffs the bloom reaction, she literally changes how the reaction works in her teams. She doesn't buff any characters. Meanwhile Chevvy doesn't really buff overload itself, just pyro/electro units if they trigger the reaction. The units deal more damage, the reaction doesn't change. So honestly Jello was right. Although I'd still count Nilou as a niche buffer, I can see how someone could count her as a niche dps instead.
I still use my Shenhe in my Ganyu freeze and well freeze ain't as dead as it seems. She is more than servicable for any cryo dps still even after all this time, at least my experience show as much.
Im not sure I agree with your mika takes, Off-field physical damage isn’t a thing on physical teams, and regarding atk speed, it is specifically important for Eula for the comfort in achieving her stacks while still spending time dodging, its why her SOBP is such a good weapon,
Yeah, he kinda repeated some misinfo about ATK SPD, the thing about ATK SPD is that at low amounts, it's difficult to notice any difference but when you have something as huge as Mika's, you'll definitely notice a difference. Both Freminet and Eula are able to get stacks faster with just Level 1 of his Skill.
I'm so mad that sara is the way she is. Even with c2 i feel like i gotta do to much for a lot of nothing. But i also just stopped trying to build her. She looks so cool which makes it worse😂 if i could redesigned a character's kit, she's got the#1 spot
17:55 Already felt that 4-star issue for over 2 years ever since my friend got C3 Raiden before C6 Sara. They still have yet to update the shop to include more characters for starglitter. Pulling for non-guaranteed 4-stars is as bad as the artifact system in this game.
sara, the electro C6 4 star buffer. Gorou, for geo; Faruzan, for anemo, Mika, for physical. Those happened to be the weakest 4 DPS elements. They will never release a hydro, pyro, or dendro sara because those elements already have cracked DPSes and the release of such buffers will break the balance. Cryo tho, I am not sure. We do have wriothesley akaya and ganyu but cryo is not in a good spot.
@@The-hamster2471 *Mika he gives 20% in Single Target and it's on top of Furina's massive damage bonus, but the thing is, you're already getting so much damage bonus that it's better to focus on ATK buffs instead through Noblesse or Tenacity
Shenhe is one of my favorite characters but for the Abyss I had to changed her out in my Ayaka team. Now I use Ayaka, Charlotte, Kazuha and Furina and imo it just works better. At least I can use her in the overworld.
We need a niche support that will make burning meta in the same way that Chevreuse makes overload teams somewhat meta. I'm hoping Emilie to be a dendro sub-DPS that specializes on burning reaction.
I've missed most of the pairings unfortunately. C6 YunJin but no Yoimiya, C6 Faruzan but no Xiao/Wanderer. Gorou but no Itto. I wanted C6 Sara, but that never happened. Maybe I'll try them with XianYun or Noelle, see how they buff others.
I follow a different strategy playing this game. When I get a 5 star weapon , a very good buffer or a very good artifact, I just save for the character who can actually benefit from them. For example, I pulled Yoimiya because I had C6 Yunjin, 2 copies of TP and cracked SR artifacts .
YunJin is really great with Noelle in a Noelle/Gorou/Yunjin/Furina team. I assume she is the best in slot as the 3rd geo (for gorou's buffs) in this team
Do you have Faruzan C6 or are you close to it?If yes pull for Wanderer.Since most of the time you spend in the overworld exploring, Wanderer is the best option with his 3D mobility.
@3606PIZZA look the highest dmg I can do wanderer CA spam is 70-80k and c0 lost prayers if you are happy with this dmg go for it ! If you ve a well build raiden/ fischl I don't think another electro character is worth it
@@3606PIZZA Ok but my other team is a hyperbloom raiden nahida xingqiu baizhu.So I spent a lot of resin in the domain and finally have a 94 195 ratio wanderer with lost prayer and cr dmg circlet and 1012 em raiden.But are you willing to do the same?
Personally I want two kind off niche characters: - Charged Attack Buffers for Bows. The whole class can't use Xianyun properly, they were left out, so they deserve it. The buff could be around Charge Speed, which could make it insta charge like Sethos, and the less time you hold, the more damage it does. It could balance Liney/Ganyu since they'd get a lot of benefits to spam their charged attacks, but they'd need to hold it a little more than other bow users just to get the extra effect. Not sure if this specifically would work, but I find that it could be fun. Imagine Ammo's Bow on a Diona or Aloy with that niche character + shenhe. It could be better than Ganyu is right now. And, of course, Ganyu could feel better. - Reverse reaction buffers. I feel characters like Chongyun and Candace aren't appreciated enough for their infusion, and it's such a nice mechanic, so there could be a character that buffs someone that triggers a reaction by not using their original element. For example, Rosaria could be buffed if she's triggering Freeze with Candances infusion instead of her Cryo application. Another example could be Xiangling, Chongyun, Xianyun and that X Character, where Xiangling would plunge in Cryo and trigger Reverse Melt and get buffed. This would also buff Bennett C6 (as if he needed), but I think it's fine, I just want Chongyun and Candance to be viable for their infusions, I don't want anything metagame changing.
Thanks for the video dude, there's too many people just talking about who are great buffers but it's good discussing problematic 4* (or 5*) which need constellations because let's be real most people won't get a c6 until that character has been ran several times on the banner. I've spent hundreds of wishes on every Xinqui banner and still only have him c4 (yes I know he's cracked anyway) but still he's part of my main team so it's frustrating.
Anyone know what best f2p version for arlechino teams is (im talking max 1 five star support low cons 4 star supports cause I started recently don’t have many cons and 5 stars)
As someone who's picked up all three Cryo five-stars' alternate outfits, here's hoping Shenhe resurgence happens by the time she reruns, because I am of the mind to pick her up for my fleshed-out roster.
I was surprised that you forgot to mention Yun Jin as an Arlecchino support, maybe it slipped your mind. I know Yun Jin isn't part of Arlecchino's overall best teams, but Arlecchino is functionally a better Yoimiya in that she's a normal attack spammer pyro main dps. For her mono-pyro teams I believe Yun Jin is a good option for the support picks, of which she probably performs better in the double geo comps. You could play her in a mono-pyro comp with Arle + Bennett + Kazuha / Xiangling + Yun Jin or in a double-geo variant with Zhongli over Kazuha/Xiangling for comfort and resistance shred. Overall good video, I think niche supports should exist and they are healthy for the game, but I think that requiring c6 for 4-stars is gacha-bait. Like you, I am also sad that Shenhe's relevance in the meta is minimal, I love her character and her design, but she is criminally overlooked by Hoyo both in her banner releases and her lack of viable teammates. I don't suspect they'll ever make another 5* niche support and they'll probably reserve this archetype for 4*s.
I heard a rumor that there's going to be another 5* niche support that specializes in burning named Emilie. She's going to be a sub-DPS Dendro catalyst.
Year 6 supports are gonna buff the active character's 4th normal attack damage by 10% of their HP, but only for anemo units born on the 6th of September whose name has less than 2 syllables
The thing is, i have c6 gorou and c5 faruzan but i dont have a hyper carry for them, and also i dont want to pull for faruzan's cons when i dont want a hypercarry
My problem is not with the Niche buffers on their own. My problem is a majority of them only feel useful at C6, on top of them not having any guaranteed pity on limited banners that you may not even want the 5 star.
Chevruse is the first character I've noticed, I have none of her talents leveled, and I still 36 Abyss with her teams. She great at C0, talent level 1 lol. Still level 90 though.
i don't mind niche. it's that most of them are not good until C6 and usually on specific banners. they should just add more 4* characters to the shop, 5 per round instead of 2 13:00 i could have sworn there was no circle impact with Bennet. i'll lay his burst and i'll move out of it and i still have the buff for quite a bit. it doesn't seem to go away until his burst does. am i imagining it?
I don't think it's just that Xianyun buff niche thing like plunge that make her good, but she also enables plunge as well. Imagine Shenhe not only buff Cryo but also infuse other characters' NA with Cryo(,which sadly, Chongyun stole that role already.)
Last time I checked Heizou setup I saw was he on Cashflow and Marechoussee, Furina Bennett Faruzan, is actually more dmg than plunging, you do N1C spam on Heizou
In the new game mode they probably will be. But they are also a problem if you like the character design of the buffer but not the characters they can buff. Or if you just want to play the buffer as a DPS.... The REALLY big problem is how the undertuned and borderline unplayable characters pollute the 4 star character pool and at least half of those were the bad niche buffers.
Although i do prefer general buffers/Supports(as long as they don't end up broken like bennett.) I don't mind Niche Buffers as i think they are good edition but they better not be part of a clunky mechanic at C0 or feel worse at C0 than C6. Chevreuse is great at c0 better at C6. and Not like Faru without c4 and C6 and Sara without c2 and C6 as they both feel clunky to me.
Some people have _dreamt_ that, _maybe,_ the level cap _could_ increase from 90 to 100 in the future... If that becomes true, then certain niche buffers that depend on their base stats - like *Yunjin* and *Shenhe* - _would_ have more of an *Impact* on their carries' DPS... So there's hope!
I think it depends on a lot on the character. And a lot can go wrong. Some examples of where Hoyoverse has screwed up: 1) The C6 requirement is bad design. 2) Gorou is very poor design, due to being too niche. He's geo and def, and with the 3 geo requirement, basically forces mono-geo. If he was just geo, he'd help more geo characters out. If he was just def, it would help out Xinyan. But by being both, he dooms Itto. 3) Next screw up, characters that don't do enough. Prime example here, Yun Jin. And to a lesser degree, Shenhe. Yun Jin is outclassed by Benny, almost always, while Shenhe is the 4th team member of a cryo team, after the cryo DPS and Kaz/Furina. And she's a five star. That's just bad. Kaveh is another example, though a bit of a DPS. Just not good enough to warrant using. 4) Then there's when the devs demonstrate they have no clue about the character they're buffing for. That's Mika. Phys has a few issues. It is bad at breaking shields... and Mika has the worst elemental application of any character. Phys doesn't interact well with anemo, and consequently, doesn't have access to grouping. Mika doesn't group. The main physical characters are all claymores. Mika buffs attack speed, which helps claymores the least. He makes it very, very clear that whoever designed him doesn't have a clue about physical. He basically buffs only things phys didn't need, while doing nothing that phys actually needed help with. Garbage character, now only useful because Furina is OP. But there are also a few cases where they've done fine. 1) Chev is nice. At C0, she's useful enough. At C4, she can have some nice offense. And at C6, she's a very strong buffer. 2) Xianyun has opened up a new playstyle for certain characters. On the whole, though, niche buffers would work better if they'd actually had the guts to nerf Benny back in the day, like he needed. Because he's warped, everything else is warped, and the likes of Furina is also OP, and, yeah, it doesn't leave much room for niche buffers.
Your 4th point is kinda misconstrued, Physical teams always have access to at 3 elements at least, Mika can't cover for everything the same way a regular non-Physical unit can. All he does is buff, heal and enable Furina. He doesn't need extra Cryo app because the Physical carry will always have Cryo app Why would he contribute to breaking shields? You can just have your other team members be in charge of it, in his case, you have Furina and Electro. Physical doesn't have access to grouping usually because it's best against Elite Mobs (which comes in pairs or groups of three hence the enemy count related passive he has). Incidentally, you seem to have the wrong idea, what Physical needs isn't better supports, what Physical needs are better 5-Star carries that aren't Eula because majority of Physical's supposed weaknesses are actually Eula's weaknesses. Here's to hoping someone powercreeps her.
@@salceds you must be mika main to be so blind. if you really thnik the carry is the promblem with physical you just don't know anything about the game
@@erronblack3462 I was there when she was released. I was also there when Freminet's kit was leaked and how it's immediately better than Eula's except for her multipliers. Just admit that Eula's kit is outdated and we need a new Phys carry that doesn't feel like shit.
@@salceds well if frem is so much better then why is he the least used character in the game his kit is not better its different . eula's kit is amazing the only flaw she has is no prefunnel and no detonate button otherwise the most satisfying character, but to compete with vape they need a lot more than what mika provides.
@@salceds and mika isn't the source of the issues with physical it is still physical itself that is the problem mika and eula would be 1000 times better characters if they were not physical
As a Furina-Ayaka user as myself, some call it CJB, bec. her premium team comp. is still the best in terms of Excel impact and rotation. The problem with Shenhe that they've learned is with her sig. weapon, given that she is already a niche unit, her sig. weapon being her best in slot only for her doesn't help. And if u wanna equip her with her bis, the most comfortable gameplay will be pulling her c1 for ER problems, coz if not, pairing her with Ayaka, she needs favge.
Not really.mine it's c0 with Her Sig it's amazing and makes it easy to build her, 3,8k atk 195Er and with her weapon passive I get 4k atk , on ayaka I have 2150atk 35CR 265CD 45ER 4 set BS. 100% burst up time always in the team
@@yakimlukanov6964 Ya I mean they still clear content in the abyss with Furina-Ayaka-Jean. But that 195 ER is a lil bit of a high investment, I have only 160 ER and Jean on favge and sometimes still find her burst not ready. And not to mention the ER of Ayaka into account, coz my one friend who have her at c6 still run favge c1 on Shenhe coz Ayaka has an ER of 110 only. If u wanna compare build UID: 825618005
My 4 star constellation map should ALWAYS be. Usable at C0. QoL at C2. Pretty good and very much usable at C4. Broken at C6. If its Trash at C0 Good at C6, Then its just a bad design
Funny thing about Faruzan, now that I finally got her C6, I realized she is good enough to just buff herself and be the DPS. Like, not f12 meta speedrun level good but comfortable easy floor 11 clear level. And she didn't run into serious energy issues at a mere 110% ER, all other stats in ATK and Crit. To be fair I did give her a Sucrose and Venti as team for easier energy but why wouldn't I do that when she buffs their damage for free on top of buffing herself? I'm looking forward to the day when I get C6 Lynette and can try that team..sometime in 2026 maybe lol
I don't think it's a bad thing per se. what is bad is having no way to guarantee a C6 4*. Or any 4* constelation. I like niche buffers, but I will never go out of my way to wish a character that you can C6 in 7 or ~≤∞ pulls. I did go for Shenhe for my Ayaka Team because I can actually quantify the amount of pulls I need to spend. My resources are limited and I'm not made of money to whale, hell, even if I had the money I don't think I would try going for a C6 4*.
The problem I have with niche buffers is that they're just greedy cash grabs in most cases. The 4* buffers especially. Most of the issues are already mentioned in the video. The biggest issue when it comes to 4* buffers is that you have no guarantee you'll get any constellations or even your very first copy of the character. There are plenty of streamers who've spent over a hundred fates before they get a single copy of a new 4* character.
I like the idea behind niche characters, but I really really really really hate when they are useless/great depending solely on C6 (gacha problems lulz)
That’s why I think Mihoyo should do balance changes on each patch. Buff the weaker characters, fix some bugs, tweak them a bit so they’re actually playable
The reason why many Yoimiya mains abide by Yunjin is because she is equal to Bennett's buff for Yoimiya, which allows for a comfortable double-geo team with Zhongli that doesn't have to play circle impact (or gets vaped/melted by enemies). While double hydro would amount to more team dps, I think a lot of people who main a character prefer to buff their main's damage instead (just for the feels) if DPS checks are achieved anyways. Yunjin is the most comfy pick for a Yoimiya shield team.
I feel like Mika isn't a character without Furina, the only reason why Mika seems undertuned is because he's Furina enabler of the teams he's in, no other niche support does that
The problem isnt niche buffers but the fact you need them C6 for them to work properly... Oh and no way to ensure you get there in a reasonable amount of time. 300+ pulls for only 2 Faruzan... Im pretty sure the rates are rigged.
Bro has a problem with everyone
That's easy content
Pot meet kettle
Look who is talking. Mr fischl salesman.
Well he's right for sure locking niche potent behind C6 and still outshined by other 4 stars .... That's a big joke from genshin
bro is just making a title and just raising a question for analysis
Niche buffers are not a problem, the problem is they all suck until C6 and thats a massive investment you have no control over for a niche playstyle as a reward.
Maybe the devs are changing this going forward. Chevreuse's buffing is 5 star level even for c0, she's actually comparable to kazuha buffs. And she gets busted at c6.
@@jebroni99 tbf Chevereuse only good in Overload teaam with electro and pyro characters adn thats it.
@@theskywalker8416 and overload is kind of a bad reaction. I don't want to run to my opponents after every hit.
@@misipapa3626wait until they fill the next abyss with single bosses with millions of hp and Clorinde overload outclassing your classic vape/dendro etc teams
@@misipapa3626 youre meant to use cheveruse teams against bosses so she becomes insane in those scenarios
I like niche characters, the problem is when their niche is really unlocked with their c6...
Yeah I really like kujou sara but completely useless because she's c3 :(
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And then they never appear outside of banners you don't want constellations of...
True, i wanna get an anemo hypercarry but almost everyone recommending c6 faruzan while I have c0 is a massive deal breaker for me
Not to mention that they are sometimes much more rarer than the 5 star characters
Id love a cyro support that had a passive that basically said "enemies who cannot be frozen instead become "brittle" brittle enemies take X% increased damage" or something along those lines, maybe a second passive on a con that gives the shatter reaction a massive buff or increasing the duration mobs are frozen for.
Maybe Cryo Archon.
cryo Nilou would be pog
Pretty sure in future we will get
Giving cryo dot damage would make it a bit more viable against freeze resist enemies
Imagine this is the new artifact set coming in Natlan 😂 would be hilarious
Putting all 4* characters in the Starglitter shop would be nice. It would give me hope that I could someday build teams like c6 Lynette + c6 Faruzan. We all know how bad things can turn out when you try to target 4* on a banner, so these non-meta team comps remain locked up. :( Gatcha gonna gatch.
I still don't get why Hoyoverse won't add new characters to the shop. New weapons? Ok, maybe, just MAYBE that's forgivable, but we have been stuck with the exact same 4⭐️ characters since the beginning of the game. Is now time for a change!
And when I say a change, I don't mean new materials for the shop.
@@Otherface because dont put them on the shop and make you pull for them without pity give them more money xD
yeah.. i was a player since 1.0 and my sucrose is still at c2..
i thankfully have c6 faruzan and lynette… but my bennett is still c0
@@Otherface even if hoyo wanted to get money out of ppl, at least make it just a little less obvious
maybe sync it with the chronicled wish banner or something - if it ends up following the theme of regions, let all the 4 stars of that region be available in the shop for the duration of the banner. that way, that banner could pull in more moolah if ppl try to go for the 4 stars, or the limited banners in that phase get a boost if ppl roll on them instead to get more starglitter
Nilou definitely counts as a niche buffer. She's just so good at it that it becomes generic, similar to Xianyun and Chevreuse. Same type of restriction as Chevreuse as well. No ones playing Bloom without Nilou except maybe Neuvilette with Baizhu and that isn't for the reaction.
Eh Fridge exists by using the Cryo aura to generate more blooms, but it's far from good and only exists as a fun option.
The thing with Chevreuse is that she buffs Pyro characters that deemed bad in comparison with other top Pyro characters because they only had standard ICD in their kit that they can't do vape most of the time. At the same time she buffs the whole team's damage so it doesn't matter that they don't get strong reaction damage if every hit of everyone hits like a truck. It's also easy to keep a 100% uptime and isn't very strict with character rotation.
...isn't one of arlecchino's best teams overload?
Chevreuse Overload to be precise. Overload as a reaction is bad, but Chevy makes it that it empowers the whole team with 40% Pyro/Electro RES shred and up to 40% ATK with 100% uptime. It also adds to up to 60% Pyro/Electro DMG bonus at C6, and that's on Chevy alone. Which is insane since you can add another Pyro or Electro team buffer like Fish or Benny to empower the whole team and not just Arlecchino
@robink8317 overload team without Chev is pretty dogshit ngl. The damage is underwhelming and the pushback is annoying ah.
I don't have a problem with niche characters, not every character has to be versatile, but i do have a big problem with their constellations
I think the problem with Shenhe is that she was designed not even as Ayaka support, but as a pure mono Cryo support. This is the team where her buffs give the most. However, Cryo really lacks a strong sub-dps character (and good characters in general), so those teams always turn out to be lackluster.
The best off-field cryo we have is probably Ganyu and she's an old unit. Add Kazuha and there's still 1 slot left for hopefully some new cryo unit. Maybe someone like Arlecchino or Neuvilette that can self-heal and deals good damage.
@@alexprus7953 Ganyu is a terrible off-field unit
Wait for Cryo archon.
Chevreuse was definitely a blessing to my account and I don't even have her c6. Abyss bosses became a lot easier with Raiden Xiangling Bennett Chevreuse team.
Gonna run this team but with Arlecchino instead of Xiangling w/ Raiden as a skill bot/backup DPS bc I would rather do that than build Xiangling 💀
@@novalytyxp I once tried building Xiangling.....and well, she's still at level 50 two years after 😖
Something I like a lot about niche characters is that you can free up a slot from the super high demand supports and use them on the other side, only thing thats annoying is when they lock the potential of said niche behind constellations.
i cant wait for a good shatter and super conduct support
Wtf
Super conduct is dead just like how Physical Dmg Character 💀
TRUE!!! my fremi would be so much happier if these existed
I'd like Varka to be a better eula, if he's playable
me too. We really could have some debuffers via shatter, where shatter causes a def shred as def shred is rarer than resistance shred. A superconduct support would just be a character that buffs atk when superconduct is triggered and maybe applies a physical DoT.
It's kind of funny to me because people complain when characters are too niche and people also complain when characters have overlapping roles.
I don't think niche characters are a problem, but I DO think their issue is almost always needing full cons to be worth it. Needing 7 copies of all these niche buffers is painful. Especially with how terrible of a job they do balancing 4 star rate ups.
I like niche supports tbh. It feels like how the game is SUPPOSED to be instead of the terribly balanced early ones that are to this day on every team and make the game still feel old and never changing while also being new (like getting a cool new Wrio with cool new mechanics only to still see the same brain dead Xiangling Bennett combo for the past 500 years same with Lyney...that is rough to see). I'm hoping Natlan will fix some of that and give us more cool niche supports. With the leaks pointing to cryo getting a buff I'm hoping they can finally have more comps outside of the Pyro duo and freeze.
There's an argument to be made for niche buffers, but I still like their kit design philosophy compared to other Gacha. Before Fontaine, I got no reason to build other healers, never saw crystalize reaction for my units, nor was I building an overloaded team. For my personal playstyle preference to change so quickly and frequently in such a short time, I am currently enjoying the characters they are releasing.
All 4 stars should be in the shop at all times. There is zero reason not to
Possibly the reason is people will no longer spend money to specifically pull for 4 stars
I need a character who boosts charge attack and gives interruption resistance. Bring Ganyu back to the top
That also means that C0 Neuvillette is gonna be more broken.
@@ShevaAlpha2002"Buffs only bow characters" problem solved.
@@purp1e200 The thing is that only benefits Ganyu, Lyney, and maybe Tighnari (depends on the elemental vision of the charged attack buffer). If he/she is pyro, that he/she works very well with melt Ganyu teams and Lyney mono pyro teams but he/she cannot work with Tighnari since he/she will ruin Tighnari's spread reaction because he/she will cause burning reaction instead.
@@ShevaAlpha2002 maybe they could be anemo, they may not help tighnari much but they can buff his supports
my problem with niche is like the Itto / Gorou case, Itto doesnt have many support options besides Gorou and Gorou doesnt have many uses besides Itto, Itto can be used a weird reverse support hyper carry driver with petra and off field dps characters and Gorou only other uses are Noelle and Chiori, Yunjin and Albedo are supports and nobody needs more defense on their shielders to lose dps and not complete abyss in time, I don't mind characters being niche and I have those two fully upgraded and equiped but when they do niches, those niches need to be a little bit broad like Xianyun that enables so many characters and can fit into so many teams or Faruzan that enhances all anemo, not just an specific stat and an specific element (or everyone in that element uses that stat), if it is too narrow just turn them into Cinnabar Spindles and call it a day -_-
A cryo chevy could be really cool. I think a new stackable 'slow' mechanic would work great for it, one that could even work on unfeezable bosses. They could buff dmg or whatever on how many stacks of slow you have on the enemy and at max stacks they could even freeze/stun for a few seconds where you could get the max buff until you have to reapply the stacks again.
this sounds like SUCH a fun new mechanic to add to make cryo more interesting. imagine the ridiculous reverse melt teams you can make with this feature which has the boss enemies slowed or stunned right before their one shot attacks and then with the use of a pyro character like thoma you can just cancel their animation entirely and do huge damage
I just managed to get my Fazuran to C6, and as soon as I get a copy of Cheuve I'll be fine on supports for a while
If they had a DEF polearm with some ER passive it could help Yun Jin so much. Right now to use her effectively you have to stack basically all her stats into ER and hope the DEF works out
I feel like even though there's niche buffers who literally cannot be used elsewhere, it still works out because they are best in slot for the charecters they buff. As an ayaka lover who lost 50/50 on shenhe last time, I can proudly say I'm skipping clorinde for shenge and it's just for ayaka. Niche charecters provide people with the ability to further invest into the charecters they love without having the RNG of artifacts, that's why they are still so good. Or, well, you can always just build Bennet. (I use him on my non-ayaka team tho)
Shhh you’re not supposed to know the leaks
Shenhe in 4.7?
4.8 most likely@@kurokenstein
Same here. Skipping everything for Shenhe, my Ayaka needs Shenhe and I won't settle until I have her
I love niche buffers, give me more niche buffers, give me a DEF-Scaling Anemo Shielder that buffs Elemental Skill Damage based on their Max DEF like there's so many ways they can make wacky kits from supports and buffers
OooOOO I’d LOVE that! Also finally deviating from DEF scaling being locked to geo -(mostly. I think Xinyan is the only exception with that split scaling)-
I want Tsaritsa to freeze all enemies including bosses in time around her and buff freeze.
Yes! Maybe aoe-freeze on burst (similar to Zhongli's petrification) , and with c1 even bypassing the need of hydro application.
It is a misconception that Chevreuse can't use anemo characters. The only buff you miss is the convenient resistance shred ability. Her attack buff and damage buff c6 still works for pyro and electro characters as long as you can produce overload reactions. You can use anemo for cc but shredding both electro and pyro is gonna to be tricky, you would probably want to shred pyro over electro because overload deals pyro damage, so her pyro+anemo option is pretty much restricted to pyro carries.
when do we get the nilou of shatter
i think it'd be fun if there was a Hydro/Cryo Nilou that makes freeze more like burning as a frostbite reaction, also slowing enemy movement/attacks. This would enable blizzard strayer on unfreezable mobs as well as shatter on any mobs.
I'm seriously hoping that they are saving major Cryo (indirect) rework for Sneznaya.
I mean arguably Navia did the same thing just for herself, making Crystalize a viable reaction and encouraging builds that could make the most crystals as possible.
We need more characters like Navia. I'm so tired of mono-geo. I wanna give crystallize an actual use that isn't a tin paper shield.
@@Otherface Chiori could have been the petra Zhongli Replacement we could have gotten but she didn't. like they could have made her sub dps and also a support that reduces Geo resistance. and also a res shred dependent on what crystallize shield you attacked the enemy with.
@@Otherface fuck geo characters that don't scale on def
We only need one more Navia for Crystalize, but instead of only for herself but for the rest of the team (basically support Navia). Do those kind of stuffs for other reactions as well.
man i wish they'd put more 4 stars in the the shop, im at c4 Faruzan + close to pity and kinda want sigewinne. it could help alleviate the problem with getting specific 4 stars
I also wish the increase the amount of cons each character we can get especially starter characters since it takes 3 years to c6
I really like them because they can make some characters a lot better or nicer to use
The cool thing is that you can play any character you like and clear all the content.
My Shenhe is well and healthy. She'll be even stronger by the time the Tsaritsa comes ;)
Tbh I don't think niche buffers are a problem. If they release more universal buffers like furina, it's a good thing. But I think seeing the same character everywhere makes the game less unique and boring. Imo they should release more niche buffers of every type.
The music at the end, just Bringing one back 👌🏻
I really liked your hypothetical concept for a cryo/hydro equivalent of chevreuse that allows freeze to be viable on bosses. I hope that comes to pass
Faruzan In Thumbnail Looks So Gorgeous...
She Really Is An Angel!... ❤
Nilou walked so chevruse could run. For you to say sue buffs a reaction but not a character and then talk a character who buffs reactions is a little baffling. Love you jello this was just a waffle moment 😭😤💀
Nilou buffs the bloom reaction, she literally changes how the reaction works in her teams. She doesn't buff any characters.
Meanwhile Chevvy doesn't really buff overload itself, just pyro/electro units if they trigger the reaction. The units deal more damage, the reaction doesn't change.
So honestly Jello was right. Although I'd still count Nilou as a niche buffer, I can see how someone could count her as a niche dps instead.
Correction: Chevreuse doesn't buff a reaction (Overload). She buffs the characters from the elements that can trigger it (Pyro and Electro) ;)
4 star niche buffers constellations wouldn't be a problem if they were available at the shop.
I have a hopium that physical damage buffs will come during natlan through some op artifact💀
I still use my Shenhe in my Ganyu freeze and well freeze ain't as dead as it seems. She is more than servicable for any cryo dps still even after all this time, at least my experience show as much.
I love niche buffers. If they aren't undertuned.
I await the day we get a charged attack buffer it would be so cool 😭
Im not sure I agree with your mika takes, Off-field physical damage isn’t a thing on physical teams, and regarding atk speed, it is specifically important for Eula for the comfort in achieving her stacks while still spending time dodging, its why her SOBP is such a good weapon,
Yeah, he kinda repeated some misinfo about ATK SPD, the thing about ATK SPD is that at low amounts, it's difficult to notice any difference but when you have something as huge as Mika's, you'll definitely notice a difference. Both Freminet and Eula are able to get stacks faster with just Level 1 of his Skill.
I'm so mad that sara is the way she is. Even with c2 i feel like i gotta do to much for a lot of nothing. But i also just stopped trying to build her. She looks so cool which makes it worse😂 if i could redesigned a character's kit, she's got the#1 spot
17:55 Already felt that 4-star issue for over 2 years ever since my friend got C3 Raiden before C6 Sara. They still have yet to update the shop to include more characters for starglitter. Pulling for non-guaranteed 4-stars is as bad as the artifact system in this game.
sara, the electro C6 4 star buffer. Gorou, for geo; Faruzan, for anemo, Mika, for physical. Those happened to be the weakest 4 DPS elements. They will never release a hydro, pyro, or dendro sara because those elements already have cracked DPSes and the release of such buffers will break the balance. Cryo tho, I am not sure. We do have wriothesley akaya and ganyu but cryo is not in a good spot.
Chevreuse is the closest "sara-type" to pyro, but she gives dmg percentage not crit damage.
Wrio & ganyu will most likely be buffed from Natlan onwards because of melt. As for ayaka, they need to make more enemies freezable.
Mika has a new use as a healer for Furina-based teams now.
Mila isn’t even a good physical buffer though 😭 we need an actual physical buffer.
@@The-hamster2471 *Mika
he gives 20% in Single Target and it's on top of Furina's massive damage bonus, but the thing is, you're already getting so much damage bonus that it's better to focus on ATK buffs instead through Noblesse or Tenacity
3:45
Yunjin will buff more if u use the set give u elemental dmg bonus if u pick up crystalize
Archaic Petra
Shenhe is one of my favorite characters but for the Abyss I had to changed her out in my Ayaka team. Now I use Ayaka, Charlotte, Kazuha and Furina and imo it just works better. At least I can use her in the overworld.
I have Faruzan c6... and I don't have any of the strong anemo dps 😅
Bruh ☹️
Time for DPS Faruzan then
If you have Kazuha or Venti you are good to go. Faruzan C6 is just thet good.
I play Ayaka/Shenhe/Jean/Furina and it doesn't even matter if I can't freeze the enemy, still does major damage while being fun and easy to play
technically Nilou is also a niche buffer, Shenhe wasnt the last one
We need a niche support that will make burning meta in the same way that Chevreuse makes overload teams somewhat meta. I'm hoping Emilie to be a dendro sub-DPS that specializes on burning reaction.
I've missed most of the pairings unfortunately. C6 YunJin but no Yoimiya, C6 Faruzan but no Xiao/Wanderer. Gorou but no Itto. I wanted C6 Sara, but that never happened. Maybe I'll try them with XianYun or Noelle, see how they buff others.
I follow a different strategy playing this game. When I get a 5 star weapon , a very good buffer or a very good artifact, I just save for the character who can actually benefit from them. For example, I pulled Yoimiya because I had C6 Yunjin, 2 copies of TP and cracked SR artifacts .
@purp1e200 smart. I tried getting yoi, Itto, wanderer and lost 50/50 sadly. My record of losses is probably why i have a few of the c6 buffers
YunJin is really great with Noelle in a Noelle/Gorou/Yunjin/Furina team. I assume she is the best in slot as the 3rd geo (for gorou's buffs) in this team
I can’t decide whether to pull for Clorinde or Wanderer 😫
Same here buddy 😅
Do you have Faruzan C6 or are you close to it?If yes pull for Wanderer.Since most of the time you spend in the overworld exploring, Wanderer is the best option with his 3D mobility.
@@dannybazzz9408 I do have C6 Faruzan! I was thinking about pulling Wanderer because Faru would just never be used otherwise.
@3606PIZZA look the highest dmg I can do wanderer CA spam is 70-80k and c0 lost prayers if you are happy with this dmg go for it ! If you ve a well build raiden/ fischl I don't think another electro character is worth it
@@3606PIZZA Ok but my other team is a hyperbloom raiden nahida xingqiu baizhu.So I spent a lot of resin in the domain and finally have a 94 195 ratio wanderer with lost prayer and cr dmg circlet and 1012 em raiden.But are you willing to do the same?
couldnt Hoyo fix cryo in general with a cryo reaction orientated artifact set?
Hmm, good idea
I’m gonna call it: your secret Ayaka team is Hyperfridge
Personally I want two kind off niche characters:
- Charged Attack Buffers for Bows. The whole class can't use Xianyun properly, they were left out, so they deserve it.
The buff could be around Charge Speed, which could make it insta charge like Sethos, and the less time you hold, the more damage it does. It could balance Liney/Ganyu since they'd get a lot of benefits to spam their charged attacks, but they'd need to hold it a little more than other bow users just to get the extra effect. Not sure if this specifically would work, but I find that it could be fun. Imagine Ammo's Bow on a Diona or Aloy with that niche character + shenhe. It could be better than Ganyu is right now. And, of course, Ganyu could feel better.
- Reverse reaction buffers. I feel characters like Chongyun and Candace aren't appreciated enough for their infusion, and it's such a nice mechanic, so there could be a character that buffs someone that triggers a reaction by not using their original element. For example, Rosaria could be buffed if she's triggering Freeze with Candances infusion instead of her Cryo application.
Another example could be Xiangling, Chongyun, Xianyun and that X Character, where Xiangling would plunge in Cryo and trigger Reverse Melt and get buffed.
This would also buff Bennett C6 (as if he needed), but I think it's fine, I just want Chongyun and Candance to be viable for their infusions, I don't want anything metagame changing.
Thanks for the video dude, there's too many people just talking about who are great buffers but it's good discussing problematic 4* (or 5*) which need constellations because let's be real most people won't get a c6 until that character has been ran several times on the banner. I've spent hundreds of wishes on every Xinqui banner and still only have him c4 (yes I know he's cracked anyway) but still he's part of my main team so it's frustrating.
Would Chevy be concidered a niquche buffer? Also do you think I should build her as we come up on clorinde?
Anyone know what best f2p version for arlechino teams is (im talking max 1 five star support low cons 4 star supports cause I started recently don’t have many cons and 5 stars)
I think Niche buffers are cool up until either good or super viable at C6 or another unit can I only buff but damage as well
As someone who's picked up all three Cryo five-stars' alternate outfits, here's hoping Shenhe resurgence happens by the time she reruns, because I am of the mind to pick her up for my fleshed-out roster.
I was surprised that you forgot to mention Yun Jin as an Arlecchino support, maybe it slipped your mind. I know Yun Jin isn't part of Arlecchino's overall best teams, but Arlecchino is functionally a better Yoimiya in that she's a normal attack spammer pyro main dps. For her mono-pyro teams I believe Yun Jin is a good option for the support picks, of which she probably performs better in the double geo comps. You could play her in a mono-pyro comp with Arle + Bennett + Kazuha / Xiangling + Yun Jin or in a double-geo variant with Zhongli over Kazuha/Xiangling for comfort and resistance shred.
Overall good video, I think niche supports should exist and they are healthy for the game, but I think that requiring c6 for 4-stars is gacha-bait. Like you, I am also sad that Shenhe's relevance in the meta is minimal, I love her character and her design, but she is criminally overlooked by Hoyo both in her banner releases and her lack of viable teammates. I don't suspect they'll ever make another 5* niche support and they'll probably reserve this archetype for 4*s.
I heard a rumor that there's going to be another 5* niche support that specializes in burning named Emilie. She's going to be a sub-DPS Dendro catalyst.
Year 6 supports are gonna buff the active character's 4th normal attack damage by 10% of their HP, but only for anemo units born on the 6th of September whose name has less than 2 syllables
Yun Jin buffs normal attacks, can she be good for Arlecchino?
The thing is, i have c6 gorou and c5 faruzan but i dont have a hyper carry for them, and also i dont want to pull for faruzan's cons when i dont want a hypercarry
My problem is not with the Niche buffers on their own.
My problem is a majority of them only feel useful at C6, on top of them not having any guaranteed pity on limited banners that you may not even want the 5 star.
Imagine if the Tsaritsa is a physical carry
Oh yes I would love that.
I could see it as a cryo dot damage, that could revitalize cryo
No, we need a good cryo sub dps.
They still don't release a strong cryo sub dps since forever.
At least, pyro have one good pyro sub dps since 1.0.
Chevruse is the first character I've noticed, I have none of her talents leveled, and I still 36 Abyss with her teams. She great at C0, talent level 1 lol. Still level 90 though.
Let's get a support that buffs shatter. Fund it Hoyo.
i don't mind niche. it's that most of them are not good until C6 and usually on specific banners. they should just add more 4* characters to the shop, 5 per round instead of 2
13:00 i could have sworn there was no circle impact with Bennet. i'll lay his burst and i'll move out of it and i still have the buff for quite a bit. it doesn't seem to go away until his burst does. am i imagining it?
As a recent Gorou and Faruzan C6 getter, this'll be a niche -- er, nice, watch.
-When's Sara, though?-
I don't think it's just that Xianyun buff niche thing like plunge that make her good, but she also enables plunge as well.
Imagine Shenhe not only buff Cryo but also infuse other characters' NA with Cryo(,which sadly, Chongyun stole that role already.)
Last time I checked Heizou setup I saw was he on Cashflow and Marechoussee, Furina Bennett Faruzan, is actually more dmg than plunging, you do N1C spam on Heizou
could u show ur Scara stats? pls
Wait will yun jin work with arle?
In the new game mode they probably will be.
But they are also a problem if you like the character design of the buffer but not the characters they can buff. Or if you just want to play the buffer as a DPS....
The REALLY big problem is how the undertuned and borderline unplayable characters pollute the 4 star character pool and at least half of those were the bad niche buffers.
Although i do prefer general buffers/Supports(as long as they don't end up broken like bennett.) I don't mind Niche Buffers as i think they are good edition but they better not be part of a clunky mechanic at C0 or feel worse at C0 than C6. Chevreuse is great at c0 better at C6. and Not like Faru without c4 and C6 and Sara without c2 and C6 as they both feel clunky to me.
Isn't Candace a niche buffer too? 🤔
We still don't have an Electro off field support that is niche to Physical
I accidentally got a C6 faruzan while wishing on standard banner. Idk what to do with her. I dont like any of the anemo DPS.
Some people have _dreamt_ that, _maybe,_ the level cap _could_ increase from 90 to 100 in the future... If that becomes true, then certain niche buffers that depend on their base stats - like *Yunjin* and *Shenhe* - _would_ have more of an *Impact* on their carries' DPS... So there's hope!
I think it depends on a lot on the character. And a lot can go wrong. Some examples of where Hoyoverse has screwed up:
1) The C6 requirement is bad design.
2) Gorou is very poor design, due to being too niche. He's geo and def, and with the 3 geo requirement, basically forces mono-geo. If he was just geo, he'd help more geo characters out. If he was just def, it would help out Xinyan. But by being both, he dooms Itto.
3) Next screw up, characters that don't do enough. Prime example here, Yun Jin. And to a lesser degree, Shenhe. Yun Jin is outclassed by Benny, almost always, while Shenhe is the 4th team member of a cryo team, after the cryo DPS and Kaz/Furina. And she's a five star. That's just bad. Kaveh is another example, though a bit of a DPS. Just not good enough to warrant using.
4) Then there's when the devs demonstrate they have no clue about the character they're buffing for. That's Mika. Phys has a few issues. It is bad at breaking shields... and Mika has the worst elemental application of any character. Phys doesn't interact well with anemo, and consequently, doesn't have access to grouping. Mika doesn't group. The main physical characters are all claymores. Mika buffs attack speed, which helps claymores the least. He makes it very, very clear that whoever designed him doesn't have a clue about physical. He basically buffs only things phys didn't need, while doing nothing that phys actually needed help with. Garbage character, now only useful because Furina is OP.
But there are also a few cases where they've done fine.
1) Chev is nice. At C0, she's useful enough. At C4, she can have some nice offense. And at C6, she's a very strong buffer.
2) Xianyun has opened up a new playstyle for certain characters.
On the whole, though, niche buffers would work better if they'd actually had the guts to nerf Benny back in the day, like he needed. Because he's warped, everything else is warped, and the likes of Furina is also OP, and, yeah, it doesn't leave much room for niche buffers.
Your 4th point is kinda misconstrued, Physical teams always have access to at 3 elements at least, Mika can't cover for everything the same way a regular non-Physical unit can. All he does is buff, heal and enable Furina. He doesn't need extra Cryo app because the Physical carry will always have Cryo app
Why would he contribute to breaking shields? You can just have your other team members be in charge of it, in his case, you have Furina and Electro. Physical doesn't have access to grouping usually because it's best against Elite Mobs (which comes in pairs or groups of three hence the enemy count related passive he has).
Incidentally, you seem to have the wrong idea, what Physical needs isn't better supports, what Physical needs are better 5-Star carries that aren't Eula because majority of Physical's supposed weaknesses are actually Eula's weaknesses. Here's to hoping someone powercreeps her.
@@salceds you must be mika main to be so blind. if you really thnik the carry is the promblem with physical you just don't know anything about the game
@@erronblack3462 I was there when she was released. I was also there when Freminet's kit was leaked and how it's immediately better than Eula's except for her multipliers.
Just admit that Eula's kit is outdated and we need a new Phys carry that doesn't feel like shit.
@@salceds well if frem is so much better then why is he the least used character in the game his kit is not better its different . eula's kit is amazing the only flaw she has is no prefunnel and no detonate button otherwise the most satisfying character, but to compete with vape they need a lot more than what mika provides.
@@salceds and mika isn't the source of the issues with physical it is still physical itself that is the problem mika and eula would be 1000 times better characters if they were not physical
As a Furina-Ayaka user as myself, some call it CJB, bec. her premium team comp. is still the best in terms of Excel impact and rotation.
The problem with Shenhe that they've learned is with her sig. weapon, given that she is already a niche unit, her sig. weapon being her best in slot only for her doesn't help. And if u wanna equip her with her bis, the most comfortable gameplay will be pulling her c1 for ER problems, coz if not, pairing her with Ayaka, she needs favge.
Not really.mine it's c0 with Her Sig it's amazing and makes it easy to build her, 3,8k atk 195Er and with her weapon passive I get 4k atk , on ayaka I have 2150atk 35CR 265CD 45ER 4 set BS.
100% burst up time always in the team
@@yakimlukanov6964 Ya I mean they still clear content in the abyss with Furina-Ayaka-Jean. But that 195 ER is a lil bit of a high investment, I have only 160 ER and Jean on favge and sometimes still find her burst not ready.
And not to mention the ER of Ayaka into account, coz my one friend who have her at c6 still run favge c1 on Shenhe coz Ayaka has an ER of 110 only.
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With more 4 stars coming, shop should have a rotation with 3 characters, its like getting new artifacts added to the strongbox
My 4 star constellation map should ALWAYS be.
Usable at C0.
QoL at C2.
Pretty good and very much usable at C4.
Broken at C6.
If its
Trash at C0
Good at C6,
Then its just a bad design
I got shenhe on release but no other cryo dps besides Ganyu, and I don't use her at all
Imo niche for a certain element or mechanic is still acceptable, but when the support is niche for a certain character, for me that is a big no.
Funny thing about Faruzan, now that I finally got her C6, I realized she is good enough to just buff herself and be the DPS. Like, not f12 meta speedrun level good but comfortable easy floor 11 clear level. And she didn't run into serious energy issues at a mere 110% ER, all other stats in ATK and Crit. To be fair I did give her a Sucrose and Venti as team for easier energy but why wouldn't I do that when she buffs their damage for free on top of buffing herself?
I'm looking forward to the day when I get C6 Lynette and can try that team..sometime in 2026 maybe lol
We get a lot of buffers, but I feel like we need more de buffers. We have vv, Lisa, Mona but compared to buffers, they’re of small quantity
I want a support focused on shatter.
I don't think it's a bad thing per se. what is bad is having no way to guarantee a C6 4*. Or any 4* constelation. I like niche buffers, but I will never go out of my way to wish a character that you can C6 in 7 or ~≤∞ pulls. I did go for Shenhe for my Ayaka Team because I can actually quantify the amount of pulls I need to spend. My resources are limited and I'm not made of money to whale, hell, even if I had the money I don't think I would try going for a C6 4*.
I am still wating for the first support that completely transforms the elemental damage type of a character / team for the duration of the buff :-X
The problem I have with niche buffers is that they're just greedy cash grabs in most cases. The 4* buffers especially. Most of the issues are already mentioned in the video.
The biggest issue when it comes to 4* buffers is that you have no guarantee you'll get any constellations or even your very first copy of the character. There are plenty of streamers who've spent over a hundred fates before they get a single copy of a new 4* character.
I like the idea behind niche characters, but I really really really really hate when they are useless/great depending solely on C6 (gacha problems lulz)
That’s why I think Mihoyo should do balance changes on each patch. Buff the weaker characters, fix some bugs, tweak them a bit so they’re actually playable
I am running my top 500 akasha ayaka as a support for melt arlec with banny and zhongli (I don't have kazuha lost him 3 times
The reason why many Yoimiya mains abide by Yunjin is because she is equal to Bennett's buff for Yoimiya, which allows for a comfortable double-geo team with Zhongli that doesn't have to play circle impact (or gets vaped/melted by enemies). While double hydro would amount to more team dps, I think a lot of people who main a character prefer to buff their main's damage instead (just for the feels) if DPS checks are achieved anyways. Yunjin is the most comfy pick for a Yoimiya shield team.
I feel like Mika isn't a character without Furina, the only reason why Mika seems undertuned is because he's Furina enabler of the teams he's in, no other niche support does that
The problem isnt niche buffers but the fact you need them C6 for them to work properly...
Oh and no way to ensure you get there in a reasonable amount of time.
300+ pulls for only 2 Faruzan... Im pretty sure the rates are rigged.