The "Correct" Way to Play Tarkov
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2023
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you're saying stop torturing yourself to a tarkov community...
No
i would be torturing myself if i got Opera.
Do a review on SPT next
its been getting slower and slower for me. had it 2 month now
“Fight your battles on your own terms, not the terms of your enemy”- Sun Tzu
Okbuddy
"war is based" - also Sun Tzu
Counterpoint: fucking skill on them
Notorious rat
Tarkov was definitely what sun tzu had in mind when he wrote the art of war
I feel like ratting is the natural reaction to getting bullshitted by Tarkov too many times. You run along your way, and all of a sudden you are dead. You don't know why it happened, you don't know how you could have prevented it, you just dropped dead.
So naturally, sooner or later, people will want to be the "winner" in such an encounter. In my opinion, the best way to deal with such a thing would be to introduce a kill-cam, so at least you know where the rat was hiding.
They won't because, You could see the amount of cheaters that BSG endorse.
@@madiimadthey don't want to loss there only money gain
Kind of, but its more about wisening up and knowing what "wins" a fight. What wins a fight is you waiting for someone to run into your sights. You know theres a limited time, and number of players, so waiting for people who have to go past your position to get out is often the best way to get loot out. Its better than spending 20 minutes looting up to get killed by the guy sipping his beer with youtube up on the secondary waiting for footsteps.
@@jordanbauerly8843 not to mention newer players having really bad armor and can't win a lot of fights latter in wipe unless they get a full half mag into them before the realize what's happening
Solos would have 0 chance at that point, a group of even 2 would have such an advantage in a discord call because you could just tell your friend exactly where he is and what he's using. Not sure a killcam is the play, thats just how tarkov be homie.
What I love about EFT is there isn't a single victory condition. In a Battle Royale game the only victory condition is to be the last team standing, but in EFT each player in a raid will likely have a different objective and it is quite probable that multiple players can complete their objective in a single raid. This also means there is no single "correct" way to play EFT as different objectives may be easier to accomplish via different playstyles.
There is a victory condition though. Manage to extract before the time runs out.
@@hombreg1 I would argue that "victory" in an EFT raid means doing what you came into raid to do - which is typically trying to complete a task / quest. And since many quests don't require the player to extract, this means the player can achieve their personal victory condition even if they die.
@hombreg1 as mentioned not really, things change depending on the player or whatever your objective is, right now this late in the wipe its a raid is a victory if I get kills
@@hombreg1 what if my personal victory is just causing mayhem to players before i die. i dont have to win, someone else just has to loose.
you're right about this, as a solo I play really slow and uses the bush, trees and other cover to my advantage ALWAYS. I didn't even know they call this type of gameplay rat and everyone is disgusted. Well my goal was to play tarkov and simulate realistic military tactics when you're a solo operator and acting like a ghost. Even if I play 40mins in one spot as a sniper and only killed one, I feel victorious coz my goal was completed. People may say I can do that in other games like COD, but COD doesn't have the survival mechanics and covert mechanics. And it doesn't have enough soft coverage to use as a camouflage, and lastly it's doesn't look good hitting an enemy with a rifle and just casually sprints away like nothing happened. I love tarkov's hitbox and all. So yea, you're right about different victory condition. xD
EDIT : My best experience was killing a 4 man squad around customs smuggler boat, we were all on the hillside I followed them and waited for a chance to headshot one. When I did I move from bushes to bushes, killed another. Until I was cornered near the small wall alongside the road and used the tree's leaves to camouflage myself after that it all got silent for a couple of mins. Everyone was just waiting for a sound cue, little did they know that I was just hiding alongside them. I was just waiting a chance to swing my rifle without making a sound. Until I did got a chance, that was the best!
2nd best was with an 8 man CHADS. As I was trying to do a quest in reserve I stumbled with an 8 man CHADS running like they own the map. I figured they may had a discord group and tried to queue in together and luckily found themselves on the same server because I don't hear VOIPS from them. Then I followed them moving from bushes to bushes waiting for the perfect timing to disguise myself as one of them. Until I did, then I waited again for the time the group separates from each other. It was a long and scary experience my hands were shaking the whole time, until the group started to move slowly as entering the bunkers. I found myself doing a stack position as 2 members check the corners before moving in, that's when I decide if I should now pull the trigger. As I did pull the trigger I was shaking and crazily got all the gears, only to be killed by a scav on the way to extract. Crazy game!
Tarkov is a slow game but it doesn't mean you sit in a bush but it also doesn't mean you w key everything. The mix of both defensive and offensive play styles makes the game fun
I don't get why w keying is considered bad. If you have good mechanical skills why not use it to your advantage?
@@miracoli234 If you are a casual player you will know what i mean
@@miracoli234 w keying is considered bad by people who suck at the game or people like me who bought the game looking for an immersive, tactical experience and got 50 kg gigachads hopping, dolphin diving, and point firing all over the place.
@@fluffysquirrel8385 people will always use their skill to their advantage, so stop complaining and instead adapt. Chads are already complaining about people that just wait if they hear something.
I W key every fight. 9.8 K/D and a 68% survival rate. It’s astonishing to me how brain dead most of the Tarkov community is.
"Ratting is fishing in an aquarium" is a beautiful analogy. Beautiful work as always brotha
Sitting in a corner for most of raid time is that.
Looting and opportunistic ratting is much more like fishing in actual lake or river.
Focusing on PvP/PvE is more like hunting.
fishing in an aquarium of bulletproof sharks maybe
@@SleepyReaper75 itty bitty legs thou
"You know you are eventually going to get something" no. Its just like fishing in a pond. Not all players go to the same extract, not all players loot the same places. Its counter-acting that "I know what they will do next" strategy of run and gun.
Ratting skill is the equivalent of a land mine.
I think this honestly shows a very basic problem with tarkov. A huge split in the community. some People want a more sim like experience such as with squad/arma 3 and such. but tarkov itself very clearly is not nearly a sim. Tarkov call itself as such but almost every game mechanic kinda contradicts that especially considering how a lot of people "actually" play tarkov.
I think what the devs (and just the aim of the game) is something of a "middle ground" between full on sim or full on arcade.
On one hand, you don't want it to be like call of duty, apex, titanfall, or similar fast paced arcade games. Stuff like the Inertia update (and or nerf), along with stuff like nerfing the strength skill shows that some.
Yet at the same time, also don't want it to turn into something like squad, zero hour, or similar simulator style game where you need to take everything insanely slow or your going to die no matter how good you are since that's how the game's designed, and even if you do there's still a chance you could die anyways either due to unforeseen circumstance , unfortunate timing, or something else.
I will say, I do hope that they manage to get it just right at some point, because I *love* the guns in tarkov... great models, nice and simple animations, and complex interactions (compared to other games anywho). Only issues I have are stuff like the recoil, which I feel honestly should have a more "squad" style to it (the recoil getting worse the longer you keep shooting, making single shot and burst fire the most accurate forms of shooting... instead of how it currently is where if you keep shooting it basically turns into a laser)
i love coming to tarkov and making cringe wannabe operators look silly
and thats why tarkov is dead,people bought it to play a tactical shooter,90% left and the 10% who wanted a dota mmo rpg with guns stayed,simple as
I want a survival experience, for good weapons and gear to be harder to get a hold of. Kind of like Stalker which is a huge inspiration to this game, in Stalker you are using garbage half the time but its about building your gear up with each successful mission and having that connection to your gear and character making the thought of losing it more exciting.
At this point in Tarkov, nothing matters. W into room, spray with meta guns and gear, die and repeat. it's not super engaging to me. no suspense or 'story' just kinda mindless.
@@itzaleaf405 Maybe a good comparison would be insurgency, its also arcadey but definitly no cod
I feel like I run into less cheaters if I spend the first 20-30 minutes of each raid in a bush I dashed into off of spawn. I basically wait until my guy is hungry enough to eat the lunch I packed, eat that and then start the raid 20-30 minutes late like a scav.
Dressing like a scav gets you the added benefit of getting to talk to and have the safety in numbers of the player scavs that do spawn in.
i love hitting co-op extracts
@@FedkaSlovanich yessssss! I feel really accomplished when I can get that going. Especially when there ends up being like 4-5 people involved.
Sniping and ratting have become one of the only strategies. I run in and get a few kills solo. Loot and get sniped from a bush by a guy who has laid there for literally 30minutes.
I am totally cool with this strategy, but it's sad when it's become the only strategy.
I think that's the main thing... it's not that it's an inherently BAD thing for that to be a strategy, it's proven in both real life and games alike afterall.
It starts to be an issue when literally every/every other raid the entire lobby is hiding in various random bushes meaning it turns into a game of "Where's Waldo with the 50 cal sniper", but you only get like 4 or 6 seconds at best to spot the *tiny* near unseeable speck of an enemy who's currently lining their sights up with your skull...
Exactly. I used to soft rat (a wipe ago, I quitted this wipe), then hard rat this wipe (staying in spots for an entire raid), and let me tell you: I wish it wasn't so effective. The thing is that Gear diff is too strong and I lose 90% of regular fights because of it and duos/trios/teams + desync. That's what FIR update + Inertia + Cheaters has done to the game, people play too scared because they can't buy good gear/replace it easily.
@@NaderinZim I mean it isn't even all of that alone...
Another thing is armor has become FAR worse compared to what it used to be, and compared to what access you have to it.
These days you can get ~4 or 5 if your lucky from the traders. Yet a whole level sooner (or hell for some ammo types at level 1) on the traders is ammo that beats that armor. Meaning it's far far less likely to save you compared to what it might have done before. (Another thing is blunt damage for instance)
Which means if your caught out in the open you ARE going to die, and the armor is likely going to make little to no difference even if you do have it...
its the only strategy by necessity,you cant play the game any other way without being a no lifer or a streamer that plays it as a job
@@aziirax3400wrong, just stop being bad
I think there's a fine line between sitting still for 40 minutes and holding W. People say its because they don't want to lose gear but it really isn't hard to make money if you know how to do it.
I think the real issue is how tasks and FIR status works. I've been merced trying to grab shit in dorms or whatever other shithole (shoreline resort) they send me to its just, hey why not squat down for 30 minutes and go do something else, come back when no ones alive and get this stupid shit over with. The other scenario is, "Hey I found something I need for a task with FIR status, guess I'll just animorph into a cockroach until it's safe to leave." Because Nikita said fuck your shitty secure container, you will play game how I want you to play game.
I feel this. Resort quests like Nostalgia makes me groan in agony. Either I have to sit in a bush for eons to get it (Maybe even get instantly head eyes by a scav, happens sometimes) or I try to w key in there, grabbing it and just getting rolled by a group of 5.
Seriously, how do you make money in this game? I played like 3 or 4 wipes, only finally got to 20 million roubles in my stash at the end of the 2nd wipe, then the way I made that money got nerfed into the ground, and the last 2 wipes I played, the scavs were instantly killing me before I could even react, and would constantly vog me after I wiped a 3-man squad and then I didn't get any of the loot because this game has a stupid "found in raid" thing now where everything is useless if you bring it into a raid. I've just been playing SPT for the last 6-months because the game is so annoying now.
@@GiltUwUthe whole point of tarkov isn’t to make money, if I have more than 2 mil in liquid rub’s, I’m probably not doing something right. Invest in your character at every chance, get that hideout upgrade, have enough room to store quest items, use all your best gear and just game.
That's what I did. I had max stash and finally got to 20 million rubs. Then I've never hit it again.
@@GiltUwU good shit, no reason to complain about 20 mil, that’s a large amount of rubles if you’re not JUST playing to make money
I agree with your point that ratting can be very boring. But on the other hand, when you eventually try the aggresive playstyle and end up getting stomped 9 out of 10 times by some walking chad-tank or someone who is genuinely better than you or even a stupid aim-bot AI scav, you end up getting frustrated and feel like shit at this game. And that's where the rat mentality kicks in. Sometimes it's the only option for us casuals.
You forgot to mention all the gear sets you lost when trying to play aggresive then dying.
While ratting all you need vepr hunter or an sks while being basically naked with some light snacks and a drink.
Ratting is great, I get to play games and read a book.
I'm so conflicted because I love your content but I am also an avid StankRat enjoyer so idk who to side with
StankRat is da way
We feared chads since the beginning of the game, being a Rabid Walking Tanks full of rage and bloodlust... something has to be done, we needed badly to make the PVP demon himself to develop botanophobia (Fear of Plants).
A nice surprise seeing you here!
@@ViroRads I have been a follower of this man for a long time, since back in 12.8 patch
I think you're assuming that people have a lot of time in their hands (when it comes to your dopamine rush analogy) to:
1) Do loot runs;
2) Take your time making a loadout that's optimal;
3) Wait the loading screens;
4) Hopefully survive while going for PVP/Bosses, if you survive, go back to step 3, if not, go back to step 1.
There's a lot of time lost for a bad raid where there's 20% chance that you get "outplayed" (as most of the time is a gear diff problem for casuals more than skill diff), 10% that it's a cheater and 70% for desync/bugs/loss of framerate, etc so people would rather do low risk/low reward while avoiding, at least, the desync/bugs,etc as you have mentioned, especially if you only have like a couple of hours a day (4 max) to play, and don't want to come out of a session with less rubles, a worst KD than you had, and being in loading screens for 20% of the time, a problem that is not so bad if Tarkov is your job.
This. Exactly this.
I mean wouldn't you want to actually play the game than sit in a bush for 2 raids where someone might or might not even come if you have limited time ?
@@IMIv2 It's better to wait 40 minutes to get someone's loot and extract, then to die 3 times in row (even if you do get a kill) with loadouts several times more expensive than the one you use for ratting. Let's say that you can repay a good loadout with one scav run/loot run (and most of the time, loadouts cost more), then each death by the 10 minute mark, is more like 30 minutes or more lost.
TLDR: Dying 3 times in a row by the 10 minutes mark or more costs, at least, 1 hour and half, not just 30 minutes, while ratting really only costs the time spent in raid (since rat loadouts are so cheap).
If you cant ahve a tug and make someone want to off themselves at the same time then rattign isnt for you
You have no idea how many people I have evaded on woods in bushes and staying slightly out of sight.
I've had dudes walk into the same bush as me passing on by. Usually during night raids ofc.
It's one of the most awesome feelings when you evade being seen or spotted. Almost second to real life in a way with the fear of death and all.
Game is a trip...
I wish you go to woods an "evade" my...(MK-18+Thermal)
@@cazaconaire-supervivencia-396still gonna die to this keter at extract when it mag dumps your legs
never happen to my, I wish a kedar extract camper sit in a bush in outskirts on woods while I am extracting with a FUCKING THERMAL...another tag I guess
@@cazaconaire-supervivencia-396 I've actually killed a person once who was following me in the dark on the west side of the map. I was running to the north and looked to my right via head swivel I see some dude tailing me LOL, ended up stopping behind a rock and mag dumping him, ended up missing some shots, he started shooting so I proned and started lobbing nades. The second one killed him out of 3 nades. It was a vog24 I think, the skinny black one.
His kit was like 230,000+ roubles, mine was around 80k that night LOL
But yeah you'll probably kill me from afar.
the split in the mindset of the player base playstyles is always entertaining.... guys that play super aggressive talk down so hard to guys who play slower...u yourself said ur just here for the adrenaline dopamine rush... but for those of us that arnt here for that or dosnt experience it the same as you. to use your own logic of what u find interesting some of us dont find it interesting to w-key and peeker advantage every single right peak on someone or just spraying point fire aimlessly as you parkour around with 60kg of gear on... w-key also "abuses" using that lightly ...the sound being so bad in the game...if u just straight sprint up most star cases u'll be on someone and killing them as you put it before they even realized they were being shot. but im just expressing my opinion same as you i dont actually even mind the w-key play style and i dont just rat i chose the situation and do what i feel helps me survive it the most. but its crazy how much content u creaters get outta this old chevy vs ford like argument lol in the end its all opinions that nobody actually cares about they jus wanna yell at lol
Have you ever tried fighting while weighing 60+kg? You literally cannot move
@@honeypotusername u can on stims but it was an exagerated statement i thought that was implied
I enjoy these videos quite a bit. A combination of your editing, talking in a way that doesn't grate my ears, and sense of humor make these videos where you're just talking about the game some of my favorite tarkov vids.
honestly the most memorable fight i had was a 1 v 4 where i was the tactical rat, sneaking around, gathering as much info as possible through footsteps and other audio. managed to extract with 3 mins left with a loaded backpack.
This is the real Tarkov experience. If only the W key players could slow down and use their brain long enough to realize it.
@@v4lhulme This is why there is just enough time in raid to be tactical. I love the slow moving playstyle, but once the firing starts, then you can start moving, not SHIFT W run past doorways, and fly around corners, but literally normal pace combat.
@@v4lhulme At least the people that use their keyboard can be heard and somewhat avoided compared to people that just pick a spot and sit there. One takes some sort of skill at the very least.
@@ateamandadream1126 they dont just sit there. Its positioning...
@@S0me0ne353 I could care less if I die to someone who heard me and decided to be sneaky, or someone who crept up on me when I was distracted/not properly clearing things out. What I cannot stand are people that sit some where not because they know someone is nearby, but because someone MIGHT come by eventually. It is very unfun to play against people roleplaying turrets.
not every rat chooses one spot to post up, a lot of us adapt to situations around us. a good example of this was when i metal gear style took out a 4 man in interchange while sneaking around in the shadows, took one of em out, repositioned, took another out, repositioned. ratting can be a very versatile and adaptive playstyle, it doesnt have to be boring. and a counterpoint, i get a way bigger dopamine rush clearing squads one by one while they freak out and scream over voip trying to get me to give myself away, and the rush that hits when they walk by 2 meters ahead of you is insane
isn't that what he basicaly said when talking about "good ratting"?
I wouldn't even consider that ratting though, that is literally just playing the game and using your enviroment to your advantage. I think that people that literally just pick a spot and sit just to sit are the problem with the game. If you hear me coming and wait for me to come by, fair, but if you spawned there and just sat there all game then go fuck yourself. Crazy people payed $120 on a game just to not play it or experience it.
@@su1t0n11 not really, he didnt feel out the fun side of ratting, he talked about it but he just did the bad ratting then said its boring, and that the adrenaline rush isnt the same. he didnt even try the fun stuff
Most of the times I've been ratting, I had a plan on how I was going to actually find and engage contact. Like you said with "good ratting", listen for contact, move in slowly, and engage on your own terms. That being said, there are some legitimate ways to camp rat that can be a fun way to be stupid with stuff you stole from scavs.
I know scav baiting was heavily nerfed a few updates ago, but being able to bring one guy in tagged and cursed on Factory and use him to funnel scavs into Gate Three was a great time when you could get a group of guys, and it opens an opportunity to actually use voip to talk to PMCs and say "Hey, truce, we're here to mess around but we have five 153s with magnum and nothing to lose, so just run past us," or otherwise negotiate. I've had times where people actually would make deals for safe passage, like "Hey, I'll throw this T-Bag in with some food if I can run past." That on top of the fact that we ended up shredding Tagilla and sometimes blocked the door with scav bodies made it a lot of fun and allowed it to not just be "Hee hee hoo hoo see movement gun go brrr!" Being able to actually think about situations and determine what the plan was instead of just slaughtering everything was way more fun, and if you die? Congrats! You can now be scav bait since your job is to run in with a hatchet anyway, so a bunch of rats with no gear fear could meme around all day.
Scav baiting was also fun because it gave an opportunity to get in the Official Tarkov Discord and chat with a bunch of guys. Part of what I enjoyed in Tarkov was being able to hop in with some dudes I've never met before and have conversations about the latest moves by Activision, the pros and cons of different kinds of cars, and sometimes just random hobbies. One of the biggest issues Tarkov is running into is that running around killing is getting boring, so bringing in an element that's constantly changing and talking with some random buds you fumbled upon was a way to toss things up. Sure, there were guys who said "Man, this is boring," and fair enough, but when you pull a G0at and give yourself ways to start saying "Hey buddy," things start to become a lot more fun.
This may also come from my DnD background and the fact that a ton of DnD sessions have at least a quarter of the time spent shooting the shit and hanging out with the buds. In DnD as well, you can go for the murderhobo playstyle and kill everything in front of you, or you can meet a bunch of new people who you have a great time hanging out with for that session. Just killing things can end up being a grind, but killing things while discussing random topics like whether or not the 40k Orks have met their victory condition brings a bit more variety and makes the game more fun.
I couldn't agree more with you. If I wanted to shift w the whole time I'd go play cod. If I wanted to rat in a bush for 40 minutes... I'd probably shoot myself, it's so freaking boring. This slow, tactical approach to fights is the best part of Tarkov.
The most fun raid I've had was on woods. I was going up the mountain with my friend, to do some sniping (popping heads from 600 meters away is also a lot of fun. Probably because it actually requires some skill to do it consistently). 3 dudes were already there, I was the only one left standing. Went back a bit to heal, and just as I was about to go loot, a five man rolls up. At one point I was running alongside them lol.
I started hunting them. I've spent the rest of the raid sneaking around the mountain. Flanking. Making some noise to fake them out, retreating, creeping up from another angle. I must've gone up and down that mountain at least 20 times. They didn't know what to do, the panicked spraying random bushes, when I once again attacked from a different lane... I felt like the freaking Predator, picking them off, one by one. I was a bit too slow, and the last one just barely got away. Still, my heart was pounding the whole time.
holy shit, he ran to live the tale
My experience with the game is that, the way to play is to learn. If you are just ratting in a bush with the best gear in the game, that doesn’t make you learn anything, thus when you actually play the game fairly, you get completely bodied
I'm a console peasant at level 2 with zero wipes so pretty much as new as you can be. Today I spawned into Ground Zero but didn't have the extract I needed for a quest so I decided to just do a run through and try again. Ran from the underground to the Mira Avenue extract while stopping to loot exactly one single bag. There was already a rat camping the extract. Dude was prone in some ground clutter and tore my legs off with a P90. Total time in raid was about a minute and a half. Much fun, very coolness.
I think bad ratting has a place though, especially for those not good enough. Though in saying this I don't think it should be a permanent playstyle. It is for those people who have had it bad, are low on cash and supply, and need to fund. Sure, tactical ratting is more FUN, but in a game so punishing, some people need that extra edge.
Number one (and i guess two, but they go hand in hand) reason to rat in my personal experience isn't for pvp but to avoid getting killed out of spawn in the first 30sec or less after 'waiting for players' for double the amount of matchmaking + loading time, and then after that segment is over, it's to make completing certain quests much easier to get done as a solo. Admittedly though, this does lead to the gameplay and quest farming to become boring rather quickly...
But i sure do hate losing a loadout in the first 30sec from the enemy's first shot that went heat seaking right into my eye socket.
Tactical ratting pretty much sums up what I do for 4 whole wipes. Never successful enough to be covered in meta gear, so most of the time I am sneaking around clutching hard on my 74/ump/akm, running around as if there's someone watching me all the time. Going slow and listen had won me plenty of fights, a few in resort even. If things go south and I didn't get head eyes right way, at least my stealth would give me enough time to gauge the situation and hide or run away.
This is my 5th or 6th wipe. At this point, I literally sit in the bushes at night for about 20 minutes to do any task because I can't fight or Nikita says "fuck you". I'm tired of playing like: I die in the first minute after a headshot when I can't see/dsync/somehow I shoot plastic balls where others just shoot my way. And I can't change it, because I'm afraid of dying 10 times in an hour and I don't play like typical chads 24/7. In addition, I play solo, and I only meet groups with meta gear. And someone will tell me now, how am I supposed to do anything in this game, since for such a casual person, doing the simplest thing gives me a headache?
Get good
Would you like a tissue with that skill issue ?
It's simply a skill issue brother. As a fellow solo boy I can feel it a bit. But eventually you'll learn to just play different the the W key chads. Tap a guy, reposition, move around, always consider that your at a disadvantage and use everything you can to even the playing field.
He forgot to say you can transfer all your stuff from your other browsers (like book marks and all that ) to opera gx , which I feel is a big thing that makes people decide to switch
i got tarkov because i love tactical shooters and i play very very slowly but i cant imagine just sitting in bushes and shadows all game. the most fun is when you come into an active area slowly, estimate where everyone is and clear the area with deliberate and precise positioning. ratting is boring and im sure running and gunning is fun but it doesn’t seem like it's as satisfying
Ayo, that LEGO Complete Saga Theme slaps hard. First time an ad convinced me
i have to refute your point about ratting being for poor players if me and my friends aren't doing quests than we rat we referred to ourselves as the "Chad Rats" because we would bring our best gear to camp and if we died we would lose collectively millions of rubles
Lol me and my buddies will do a similar thing where we will just snowball off of other peoples kits and see how long they work for. Keep in mind all of us have Millions of rubles in our stash its just more fun to make it a challenge.
Same with me and my friends camping, we'll lock down emercom extract with thermals and gl's just for the sake of having fun
I get pleasure from the thought that they had no chance against the spot I was in
5:35
You know what is also boring? Dying to W chads every raid.
I prefer to stack the cards in my deck in my favour by doing what I do best, being very patient.
One time I was laying in a bush with someone like 5 meters away also in a bush and I was more patient than him, he got up and I blasted him. This took 20 minutes of waiting LOL
And you say that like that's something you're proud of lmao.
on the way to the 100k sub grind I see, you're almost there!!!
Bru I'd love to watch some full raid videos made by you!
bro went with the humble ending
Sick video! Love the content here bruv
Best ratting is exfil camping - i can just read some books until i hear the steps
One of my most memorable rounds was when my duo got killed right after we spawned in i got also dinged up me and the enemy disengaged rotated we both killed other players fought each other. I won i have to cross all the map till exfil. I slowly and methodicly work my way through customs. Get another engagement dude flashbangs me after i shot at him and missed the headshot. I lean my silhouette is hard to see flashbang wears of i kill him as well. I heal up and get on my way. Another engagement i hear the enemy before he hears me i hide wait for him to approach "pew" enemy dead. Than i am at the end of my journey bunch of dog tags some loot and a great round after a shitty start just to get killed by an exfil camper sitting in a fucking tree for the past 30 minutes. These kinda stories happened to me on customs, interchange, woods and like every other map. I don't mind actual camping rats if they don't do it for the whole round at an exfil hell i don't mind exfil camping if you don't do it the whole fucking raid...
I'm lvl 13 trying to get back into tarkov and even ratting is getting me killed I haven't survived the past 10 raids. Time to wait for wipe ig 😢
Learn and observe player movement around the map and make routes in your head that avoid most player movements.
That's what I do on woods, I can reliably avoid 80-90% of players if I want to by playing the map in a tempo that doesn't synergize with other spawns
This fits for me 100%. I hate ratting, but this is just carefully playing. Nice vid man.
This is a great play style for hanging out with friends and chatting it up or watching tiktoks. It's definitely hit or miss though.
Start of wipe is the best, once it gets to M855a1 i leave because its 1 shot city all wipe then as ppl are only getting better stuff an early wipe fights are the best ones when it feels like you have been shot 500 times with 9mm pst and your still going with your lvl 3 armour on
i enjoy both playstyles finding some stupid camping spot parcouring in to it and trying it out is just fun to me but i could never imagine only playing in this way
“Oh no don’t exploit the bushes.”
1:13 I am now convinced I need to make Opera GX my browser!
This makes me excited for arena. Lots of opportunity to practice being a lead spitter without the risk.
Im level 54 and i find ratting way more enjoyable, because fair,long and high skill fights happen in tarkov extremely rarely. Its either they are dead instantly or me. The combat just feels like a coin toss, yeah you can increase your chances for sure but like its not who is smarter/faster/more tactical/knows the map down to a pixel its who abuses the game better so traditional pvp gets boring. Especially,situations like when you were rotating alongside your opponent for ten minutes and you just ended up not engaging at all because if you expose yourself for 0.3 seconds u r dead reserve pvp in a nutshell btw. On the other hand then i rat naked,kedr,gshsz, no rig and kill a duo with thermals i feel like a god its orgasmic, because obviously i should have been dead but somehow i won the unwinnable. Honestly it feels like gambling and hitting jackpot.
most of the figjht in tarkov feel like a huge game of cat and mouse until finally of you dies and it just kind fucked
There's a big difference between "getting the drop on someone" and "GeTtINg Th3 drOp oN S0meoNe"
I do like inertia but man tarkov pre inertia was crazy quick fun
Inertia on it's own is fine and was never the problem, it was the weight system that makes you feel like a whale on ice skates that really ruined it.
Stopped to say it's not about the rush more so the fact for me I work 14 hour days so feasibly I can't just hop.on and lose millions worth of kits just to cheaters and try harda with more time. The satisfaction knowing I prolly ruined someone's day by being a rat is good enough for me. It's like playing DF or any big Sim game it's shot at first but around the longer game time mark it starts to get pretty fun and entertaining
sometimes i love kedr leg meta in corners or bushes, cause it's funny killing geared dudes
That maroon 5 reeses puffs edit at the end was funny af 🤣
I love to sit on a good spot with nice overview and snipe. Meanwhile i drink a beer and listen some interesting podcast. I do it all the time on shoreline or woods and i will never stop. That is my way to have fun in the game and i really enjoy it.
i was playing a whole differnet game i have heard abt tarkove never played it never say gameplay but i heard his commentarys like 3 or 4 vids i watched them while playing minecraft and wow did i enjoy them
theres a big difference between playing slow/tactical and being a rat, any rat who says they are playing tactical is kidding themselves, pieing corners, stopping to listen and checking surroundings is not the same thing as laying in a bush waiting for someone to run by.
"Oh yeah I use my wits and tac ratting to get close and win the engagement." but that only happens in like 1% of games, there are always more people and if You don't have the time to grind early wipe or cheats you will always be outmatched in both equipment, skill and level making it harder to level up and enjoy the game with the flea and high level traders. there is no chance to win early wipe for good loot without out manning the enemy with the best equipment you start out with and being lucky enough to make it out alive. or be lucky with stash runs. yes you can get a lucky mosin headshot but that might be on the 15th attempt of just trying to get basic missions done and then you end up being exit camped anyways.
Love the bo3 Minecraft zombie tower gameplay. Certified classic map right there
There’s a big difference in playing careful, staying out of combat or not going for risky straya compared to running to a high traffic area and camping for 25 minutes
That feel when you're lying down in your bush then you suddenly get sniped by a scav boss who shouldn't have been anywhere near that area. And you were a scav.
I just found this channel and I know it’s a good channel because I actually looked at the sponser
I think the guy you shot going over the pipe when you were hiding in that blue container was me
Ratting has done wonders for my reading
Tarkov is weird because you can’t just play it like a tactical shooter, you have to play it like tarkov if you want to win, I try to play passively like I was actually in the situation and don’t want to die but seems like I do more often because of rhay
I loved the veggie tales reference, well done.
Literally yesterday I had to exterminate a rat (not well trained rat as it was prone to making gun sounds), which also had an audacity to report me!
On a side note: a lot of the time I also turn into a rat, like for example I kill some people at fortress on Customs and I'm in a process of looting and hear something coming... I'm not gonna give it up easily
the fact he knows the pain edgerunners brought to everyone is good
levi you are getting very close to 100k started watching you at like 1,5k and didnt expect you to go this far, nevertheless you are doing gods work keeping people entertainded. Keep it up man
I once waited like 35 mins infront of a closed door bc I thought I heard an enemy and just thought they were patient(it was water dropping)
The only time it is a good feeling to kill someone while camping is when you actually calculated what they are going to do next. Once i killed a dude in the office area between goshan and oli, but he had a teammate. Instead of fighting him face-to-face where i would've had a chance of dying i ran upstairs to the techlight escalator, went down and got behind him and camped the doors which would've lead to that office area. My plan was that he will eventually try to drop his mate's stuff if he didnt hear me anymore, and the best place for that is the little janitor room next to the doors. Guess what, he did just that, so i just had to shot him in the back of his head, while i was sitting in the corner next to the door he came out.
I think in such a situation it is justified as you use your map knowledge and situation awereness to outsmart your enemy, who already knew he was in a combat situation.
This is actually one of the reasons i dont like to drop my mate's stuff, and i also dont want them to care about my gear.
This man’s gonna go crazy when he finds out about exfil camping.
Ratting vs PVP chasers - which dies to desync more often?
"I was thinking about it after I got off that night." Me too, bud. Me too.
I cant play like this without whipping out my phone like 3 minutes in I seriously cannot stand this playstyle even when you do kill someone it's just "wow he didnt even see me I feel bad now"
I only liked to rat when i got a bolt action, makes sense to do so but hiding in a bush in a traffic spot is boring, personally ratting normally doesn't mean instant win, i get 180'd pretty often when i get the drop off
You only lose a few bullets to desync? I had to drop the game because desync would steal entire magazines from me. That, and the deoptimizations were killing my computer.
Theres this game called "Lost Light" its an actual copy of tarkov but with some twist lowering the overall difficulty of tarkov like games. In game you get to choose whether to detect enemies around you in a specific radius signaling you using a red triangle which when is red enemy is within your radius and if it starts blinking and making noise it means the enemy is hella close to you, the other one is an actual wall hack for a few seconds if theres an enemy who's temperature is above the red line you can see these enemies through walls in a limited radius as well. Ratting is hella impossible unless youre far away with a full blown weapon and good grade bullets.
There is also "Arena Breakout" which is also like Tarkov, although it doesn't have a way to stop extract campers or whatever
@@OperatorMax1993 I agree
Aye this was my bread and butter for late wipe setup without AP ammo
Idk about you guys but I prefer not to die and actually practice some (maybe basic) actual things that would prove useful in my soon to be (two years for now) military career (we have to enlist but I will gladly be joining them once school’s done)
I’ve heard things individually from guys that already have been through their military duty’s that some laid down in a bush for 4 days straight to pull of some kind of sting OP or border patrol.
Here in tarkov you are forced to move though the entire map in about 30 minutes which kinda kills the idea of pulling this off and forced us to move (even though and in most times I brought an assault rifle in I went to extreme CQB and stayed alive to tell the tale (3-4.smtn KD)
(Embrace bordom, it will help you irl . Solo life)
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Nice video
And I always try to be not so scummy because it’s still a game and people are still people behind the screen
7:54 and yes it keeps me coming back from time to time and also loot run like crazy when I’m too tired of chilling
I don't get how people can 2nd monitor even when sitting in a bush for 20-30 minutes. I'm always on full alert listening to every sound and mapping out a sequence of events so I know what to expect when I feel like I have enough info and the heat has died down enough to make my way through the map.
@@jamesproimosam not apart of “those guys” in a sense.
I like to immerse in tarkov so I have have the second monitor completely static,and always and full alert bro .Bye
@@dtheguy I'm not 100% sure but your tone feels adversarial for some reason. I wasn't accusing you of anything if that's how you took it.
My comment was about how you were talking about real life stakeout style marathon bush camping (4 friggin days) and yet people in this game can't handle 20-30 minutes of holding position and being alert without getting bored/distracted.
@@jamesproimos sorry it came that way , apparently I’m build Different ( idk Honestly My brain is way sharper when I’m bored, it can be kinda cozy sometimes , knowing that you won’t face the BS like desync etc, it Levels the playing field(especially with higher ping like me at 70ms, it is mostly fine but in very close cqb sometimes those fractions of a second add up and get me killed). And for me it’s a show of skill and marksmanship. Ranging the distance beforehand waiting for the right time, Holding my breath and taking the shot.
Idk it’s also way more suited for solos like me.
Good night man GTG
I have a mixed opinion of people's hot takes regarding bush camping, or really just passive playstyles. I tend to play infrequently with a buddy of mine, and we can have a lot of fun just picking up random quests and "literally camping" on some of the maps. By this I mean we bring some food and some water, have an objective in mind, and slow roll our way through a map, if we need to take a break because the kitchen is on fire, or because the dog desperately needs to go out, we hunker down in a good spot and do so.
I have to agree that yes, in general, laying in a bush for 30 minutes or something would be very boring. But it depends on what your goal is, and why you are in that particular bush. If you are laying there because you are motivated by fear of your surroundings, sure, then the game is likely not going to be that interesting. But if you are there because you are observing, tracking or hunting someone or an area... then it can be a lot more interesting.
What a slower, more methodical playstyle has taught me, is a very healthy respect for the kind of trouble that can be lurking in areas of the map that I often see other players "hard W key" through. I have had many games where multiple teams of players manage to walk within 5 or 10 feet of me without ever realizing I was there, and whether or not I engage them depends a lot on what my goal is in that moment. Do I have 2 quest objectives in my pockets and all I need is to GTFO, well I am likely not engaging, do I want more pockets to loot or ammunition from the guns they are using... well sucks to be them.
It's also a little weird, but a slower playstyle has taught me to appreciate timing a bit more as well. Sometimes it's not the best situation to be "first" into a valuable loot zone, sometimes it's nice to have someone else hoover up that loot and deliver it in on nice searchable package. I think the fundamental questions are "why are we in the bush?", and "how often do we get to play?". Because if I only have 45 minutes to play that day, I am not necessarily going to want to sprint through a single map, get out in 10 minutes and rush off to do another task like it's a job. I might take my time and just enjoy a single map through to the end, and play cleanup where most of the players are already gone.
You have to understand, I get dopamine hits when I strip someone’s dead body dry.
i think the bad ratting is useful only when you want to get some good loot/when you're absolutely broke, but not all the time
I'm just gonna say that i rat because I play solo...my usual group of friends bounced when the invisible player bug was happening right before goats video
Want to add if u smooth out the screen no wrinkles or creases it'll be better for the blue screen
tbh, i don't have much time to play this game like it's meant to be played, so i usually just do some basic missions and once i unlock the flea, i just build some aks and play factory just to fight, i run out of money, do some scav runs and the repeat
How do you get in that container above the passage container on customs (asking for a friend)
IMO. the best way you can play, is by trying to get as much disparity as you can between risk and reward. i think i'd personally draw the line at extract camping, but thats with the caveat of it being a dedicated playstyle. if you're sitting outside extract waiting to see if theres any activity before you leave then suddenly there is? merc him.
I like to play as if I were actually there so not getting seen is really fun especially if someone is actively looking for you
Ratting has desensitized me from gunshot and I don’t freeze up when I’m a map anymore questing, and that why I like ratting loll
I only really rat when I need to quest, since it's so frustrating to just die over and over trying to get one fucking quest item, or to just get that last kill
agreed! sitting in a bush sucks, and running in headfirst is suicide
some people dont get the difference, but yeh you summed it up correctly
I need a game like tarkov but it has a pve section similar to ghost recon, the stash and customization of everything would fit perfectly in a pve game
The problem with "Okay, I'll just hop into the next one" is that we don't all have a billion roubles to spend on guns.
Best way is to combine both, slow and steady when moving, but ooga booga w key when fighting
The bad form of ratting is why I started switching over to playing Marauders instead. It feels a lot harder for people to rat, and my “gear fear” in that game is way way lower
Camp ratting, hunting while hiding in a blind
Shift W, hunting while running through the wood hoping you don't end up face to face with a bear while scaring most of the prey away.
Tactical ratting, hunting while tracking your target, getting to know it and setting up the perfect kill shot.
Track hunting is the most fulfilling because it requires a wider range of skills and when you pull it off you know it's because of YOUR ability and not RNG or some random bullshit.
Fun story 2 days ago i got on for the first time in months farted as i was loading in and found a red keycard next to me all in 30 seconds
The main reason why I rat is because of the fucking strap-on tank armor this game has. Like whenever I get into an engagement I'd never expect my first shot to kill or cripple my oppenent so having more time to get more shots in is great.