Agree with everything you said Tony. I got my PRX for just 32$; my first planar-magnetic set, and i didn't have to tear a hole in my wallet for it, and i'm enjoying the heck out of it too😁 Paul(Wasabii) and I actually have the same hunch, that KZ must now finally have someone doing the tuning who really knows what they are doing. Which I believe is the reason why KZ's recent releases have been well tuned; which I think is also the reason why it took 4 PR iterations for KZ to get this right. They got the right person to do the tuning for the 4th PR iteration. And if KZ keeps this up, and manages to stay away from the unnecessary issues that it got itself into, KZ will truly be a market disruptor. Specially now that brands seem to be focusing more on "price to performance" ratio. I was one of those who took a good long step back from KZ when issues started coming up; didn't even wanna touch any of their stuff not even with a 50-foot pole. But when guys like you and Paul, who were calling out KZ when KZ had to be called out, were giving KZ props when they did something well; then I also decide to give KZ another chance. And I have to say, this is a different KZ, at least the direction they are now taking(which i hope they will continue on in). Right now, I'm enjoying the Saga, Rhapsody, and now, my very first planar-magnetic the PRX. And seeing now that they've finally gotten the tuning of their planar-magnetic right, I'm actually looking forward to seeing what the next iteration of the PR series will be. Maybe an all metal build? Or a dual planar-magnetic driver set with tuning switches maybe? ...who knew i'd be paying attention to KZ again. But like what you said, we gotta give credit to whom credit is due. And that is simply the right, fair, intelligent and mature thing to do. And right now, KZ deserves to get the credit for what they did(and have recently been doing).
This was a very thoughtfully written piece! I never stopped buying KZ because my experience with it was always good and I'm firmly placed in the budget realm( so I can continue this fun hobby😊). And I 💯 agree with you that their tuning has consistently improved over the last while. I'm really enjoying the Saga as well. It seems to have slipped under the radar but is a wonderful offering. To my non audiophile ears, it has maybe the best tuned mids from KZ so far. At least the dozen or so I've bought to this point! Definitely want to try out the planar sound as well. Thanks for the well thought out commentary and thanks to Akros for the review too🙂 Just wanted to mention that I've bought many other budget brands as well ( Moondrop Chu2, Ziigaat Nuo, TRN Orca (very nice one) QKZ HBB Khan, Simgot 200 and lots of others) but I reach for my KZs more than them on a general basis. Just pure fun to listen to 😊 Oh, and I'm thoroughly enjoying their Carol earbuds as well!
@@philipm.4738 You are most welcome Sir! Yes, I also recommend the PRX. If you enjoyed the Saga, you will most definitely enjoy the PRX. But do use an amp for it. The difference significant between high-gain and low-gain setting. And also, when I use it with a mobile phone, since i only have a dongle dac, the app Sound Beautifier by Swiss Selections helps give it a bit more amplification. ...safe to say, we can expect to see a PRX Pro getting released next; hehehe...
@@philipm.4738 Yup. For a while, with everything that was going on at the time, i vowed to never touch KZ or anything KZ related. But Tony and Paul, through their videos, convinvced me to give the "new" KZ another chance. And i'm glad I did. With all the recent improvements i've seen KZ making an effort to do, i'm actually looking to forward to see how far KZ is going to go. Right now, i think KZ is slowly getting into the $100++ bracket with consistent releases like the Hydro, AS24Pro, and Sonata. Me personally, having recently gotten into planar-magnetics, i'm waiting to see what more they will do with PR line. Maybe a multi planar-magnetic set or an improved version of the Symphony, or another hybrid planar-magnetic configuration. Given the recent planar-magnetic releases by Artti, Simgot, 7Hz, and Tangzu; i'm willing to bet KZ will find it too tempting to not have their own horse in the race.
I’ve got the PRX today as well as my first planar encounter. I mean it’s dirt cheap but I had higher expectations after hearing so much praise for planar drivers. It’s ok for what it is and i got it for like 39$ with coupons so for that price it’s even great. But I got spoiled listening to gear 10x the price 😂
@@Icecold_Art Try this: use a balanced cable and if possible, set system pregain into the negatives, then push your amp's volume UP. This is my method. I set negative gain on EqualizerAPO and my mobile app, Musicolet. If you have the option to set pregain into negative db (-10db, onwards...I like -30), try it on other sets as well. Scale them up. The PRX just needs juice.
I love my Sgor Luna and my KZ PR2 v3, I don't mind to much about the juice needed because also have a fiio ka11 dongle dac to power those bad boys. Will wait for 11.11 to buy the PRX 👀 Thank you so much Tony for an excellent review as always
thanks a lot mr antonio teixeira, appreciate the works on the comparison between the budget planar iem, hopefully in upcoming, theres more budget planar that refine the price bracket
My curiosity makes me want to get a prx.....but I'm going to have to stop myself lol. I already have a pr2 black mesh that I never use, not to mention the more premium planars I love.
Hi, great comparison, very interesting!! I was undecided between the PRX and the Luna, but I already had the PR2 from KZ, which "fortunately" sounds really good, so I decided to get the Sgor Luna, also because I have the previous model, the Adonis, which I love madly. I must say that I am happy with the Luna, they are comfortable, despite their size and they sound good. The only thing that bothered me is that despite being advertised as a planar with 14 magnets....it only has 7... only the side of the upper driver has magnets, underneath the housings are empty, you can also see it with a torch, illuminating inside the iem, if you pay attention. This, of course, does not take away from the quality of the sound produced, which as I said is of excellent quality and if it can already do a good job with a 7-magnet asymmetrical driver, I imagine that with 14 it would have been even better... but I was certainly a little disappointed and would have preferred to know what I was buying and not feel taken for a ride by the company, which is also a newcomer and should not play such jokes on its new customers.
@@TheCipollino84 I understand your discontent....it's unfortunately the harsh reality of most things in out world today.....not only IEMs and related sound stuff. As for the Luna they are excellent...really solid sounding and the driver is a unique driver to them...not related to other 13mm planar drivers.
You mentioned that you talked more about PR1 Ballanced modding in a previous video. I have one, so I'm really curious. Which video should I watch to learn more?
@@CePa_Gon hi...the easiest is use some medium density foam on the nozzle bore. If that isn't enough you can then cover the foam with filters from 300 to 450 until you get the desired effect.
I have the S12 2024 so I don’t need this but it’s interesting… I’ve heard a lot of positives about the Luna as well and the TD20 … I like the S12 but I’d prefer a slightly cooler sound maybe
Excellent review and observations as always. Thanks for that great work. I follow many iem reviewers, but honestly I trust your opinion the most. I've chosen the Luna. Just a small recommendation- please leave the mic somewhere laying on the table. Its just annoying to hear your voice jumping around my head on every video 😅
I may just buy a KZ PRX, sadly I have two of their IEMs, the ZVX and the Polaris, which were poorly manufactured. The ZVX had paint peeling, within the 1st 24 hours of use, and developed a stereo imbalance about 3 or 4 months after delivery - and is no longer usable. The Polaris was dead on arrival, and definitely the worst IEM I have ever heard, clearly something was wrong, highly distorted - I should have returned it. Also have an ARTTI T10 which has both a level imbalance in the stereo field, as well as a very noticeable difference in frequency response, between left and right. This is the final frontier for ChiFi products, reliability and consistency. It's a most unpleasant experience - when you buy cheap to save money, but if the product does not last, then that is money wasted, a gamble like a lottery ticket
the problem with KZ is that they are so cheaply made. Not to last, so they want you to buy new again and again. I mean my KZ pr3 died after 3day (one channel is weak). So I literally bought them and stored them after 3days. No KZ iems lasted more that one month in my case (when it was in the slightly more frequent use). I am careful with my stuff. Drop KZ iem on some hard desk from 1-2cm or click the shells against each other while packing and there is a high chance that you will damage the inside solders. Then congrats. no sound. PS: the most recent iem from them KZ zs12proX is already chipped out with DD distortion on the right side.
@@philipm.4738 You gotta be careful when you see claims like this. There are so many people with a grudge against KZ they talk bad about them but never even owned any or exaggerate any issues. Just to discourage others.
I've had no problem with KZ build, unlike other cheap IEMs, like Waner that broke taking the cable off. Did get a lemon D-FI, but out of the zillion KZ sets I have, it's the only lemon. They are so easy to mod and most really shine when you replace the filters!
@@kikiwonwon29how about the fiio ka11 dongle? It should have enough power to drive this if I'm not mistaken. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong 😊
Wow. It's been a while since there was so much content in a day. Impressive.
Agree with everything you said Tony. I got my PRX for just 32$; my first planar-magnetic set, and i didn't have to tear a hole in my wallet for it, and i'm enjoying the heck out of it too😁
Paul(Wasabii) and I actually have the same hunch, that KZ must now finally have someone doing the tuning who really knows what they are doing. Which I believe is the reason why KZ's recent releases have been well tuned; which I think is also the reason why it took 4 PR iterations for KZ to get this right. They got the right person to do the tuning for the 4th PR iteration.
And if KZ keeps this up, and manages to stay away from the unnecessary issues that it got itself into, KZ will truly be a market disruptor. Specially now that brands seem to be focusing more on "price to performance" ratio.
I was one of those who took a good long step back from KZ when issues started coming up; didn't even wanna touch any of their stuff not even with a 50-foot pole. But when guys like you and Paul, who were calling out KZ when KZ had to be called out, were giving KZ props when they did something well; then I also decide to give KZ another chance. And I have to say, this is a different KZ, at least the direction they are now taking(which i hope they will continue on in). Right now, I'm enjoying the Saga, Rhapsody, and now, my very first planar-magnetic the PRX.
And seeing now that they've finally gotten the tuning of their planar-magnetic right, I'm actually looking forward to seeing what the next iteration of the PR series will be. Maybe an all metal build? Or a dual planar-magnetic driver set with tuning switches maybe?
...who knew i'd be paying attention to KZ again. But like what you said, we gotta give credit to whom credit is due. And that is simply the right, fair, intelligent and mature thing to do. And right now, KZ deserves to get the credit for what they did(and have recently been doing).
This was a very thoughtfully written piece! I never stopped buying KZ because my experience with it was always good and I'm firmly placed in the budget realm( so I can continue this fun hobby😊). And I 💯 agree with you that their tuning has consistently improved over the last while. I'm really enjoying the Saga as well. It seems to have slipped under the radar but is a wonderful offering. To my non audiophile ears, it has maybe the best tuned mids from KZ so far. At least the dozen or so I've bought to this point! Definitely want to try out the planar sound as well. Thanks for the well thought out commentary and thanks to Akros for the review too🙂
Just wanted to mention that I've bought many other budget brands as well ( Moondrop Chu2, Ziigaat Nuo, TRN Orca (very nice one) QKZ HBB Khan, Simgot 200 and lots of others) but I reach for my KZs more than them on a general basis. Just pure fun to listen to 😊
Oh, and I'm thoroughly enjoying their Carol earbuds as well!
@@philipm.4738 You are most welcome Sir! Yes, I also recommend the PRX. If you enjoyed the Saga, you will most definitely enjoy the PRX. But do use an amp for it. The difference significant between high-gain and low-gain setting.
And also, when I use it with a mobile phone, since i only have a dongle dac, the app Sound Beautifier by Swiss Selections helps give it a bit more amplification.
...safe to say, we can expect to see a PRX Pro getting released next; hehehe...
@@philipm.4738 Yup. For a while, with everything that was going on at the time, i vowed to never touch KZ or anything KZ related. But Tony and Paul, through their videos, convinvced me to give the "new" KZ another chance. And i'm glad I did.
With all the recent improvements i've seen KZ making an effort to do, i'm actually looking to forward to see how far KZ is going to go. Right now, i think KZ is slowly getting into the $100++ bracket with consistent releases like the Hydro, AS24Pro, and Sonata.
Me personally, having recently gotten into planar-magnetics, i'm waiting to see what more they will do with PR line. Maybe a multi planar-magnetic set or an improved version of the Symphony, or another hybrid planar-magnetic configuration. Given the recent planar-magnetic releases by Artti, Simgot, 7Hz, and Tangzu; i'm willing to bet KZ will find it too tempting to not have their own horse in the race.
I got the luna with the included cx dac for 30$ and still can't believe how far the budget segment came in terms of quality this past year.
you paid 30bucks totally or that cx DAC only was additional 30bucks?
@matusjurcik6974 Total 30$ for the iem and the dac.
I have the PRX. It's a dream how easily it turns into a bass monster with EQ. I'm putting it through its paces with a 4.4mm balanced cable
I’ve got the PRX today as well as my first planar encounter. I mean it’s dirt cheap but I had higher expectations after hearing so much praise for planar drivers. It’s ok for what it is and i got it for like 39$ with coupons so for that price it’s even great.
But I got spoiled listening to gear 10x the price 😂
@@Icecold_Art Try this: use a balanced cable and if possible, set system pregain into the negatives, then push your amp's volume UP. This is my method. I set negative gain on EqualizerAPO and my mobile app, Musicolet. If you have the option to set pregain into negative db (-10db, onwards...I like -30), try it on other sets as well. Scale them up. The PRX just needs juice.
great video, thanks for the upload i have been waiting for this since the PRX launched
I love my Sgor Luna and my KZ PR2 v3, I don't mind to much about the juice needed because also have a fiio ka11 dongle dac to power those bad boys. Will wait for 11.11 to buy the PRX 👀
Thank you so much Tony for an excellent review as always
thanks a lot mr antonio teixeira, appreciate the works on the comparison between the budget planar iem, hopefully in upcoming, theres more budget planar that refine the price bracket
@@mainkegresik9958 wow you know my full name😉
I think I'll get me some PRX during the 11.11 sales period. Thanks Tony 🤟
Hey. It's a reminder. 11/11 is today 😊
My curiosity makes me want to get a prx.....but I'm going to have to stop myself lol. I already have a pr2 black mesh that I never use, not to mention the more premium planars I love.
I like the S08, and having the PRX and Luna trade blows with it is quite a feat
Hi, great comparison, very interesting!! I was undecided between the PRX and the Luna, but I already had the PR2 from KZ, which "fortunately" sounds really good, so I decided to get the Sgor Luna, also because I have the previous model, the Adonis, which I love madly. I must say that I am happy with the Luna, they are comfortable, despite their size and they sound good.
The only thing that bothered me is that despite being advertised as a planar with 14 magnets....it only has 7... only the side of the upper driver has magnets, underneath the housings are empty, you can also see it with a torch, illuminating inside the iem, if you pay attention.
This, of course, does not take away from the quality of the sound produced, which as I said is of excellent quality and if it can already do a good job with a 7-magnet asymmetrical driver, I imagine that with 14 it would have been even better... but I was certainly a little disappointed and would have preferred to know what I was buying and not feel taken for a ride by the company, which is also a newcomer and should not play such jokes on its new customers.
@@TheCipollino84 I understand your discontent....it's unfortunately the harsh reality of most things in out world today.....not only IEMs and related sound stuff.
As for the Luna they are excellent...really solid sounding and the driver is a unique driver to them...not related to other 13mm planar drivers.
how do these compare to Artti T10? I'm at work now, watching full video tonight
@@komi1834 Close, but Artti are the clear winner in all aspects
ㄴ if you didn't try it.., i don't believe you
how do these planar headphones compare to the artti t10?
what cables do you have attached to the PRX? they look nice 😁
Finally, Akros' review of PRX. I have the PR1 Pro. Should I buy PRX?
You mentioned that you talked more about PR1 Ballanced modding in a previous video. I have one, so I'm really curious. Which video should I watch to learn more?
Akros, I have a PR1 Pro, could you tell me how I should modify mine to lower the treble?
@@CePa_Gon hi...the easiest is use some medium density foam on the nozzle bore. If that isn't enough you can then cover the foam with filters from 300 to 450 until you get the desired effect.
Hey Akros, what would you recommend as a mod for the PR1 Pro? Greetings from Brazil 🙏🏻
I have the S12 2024 so I don’t need this but it’s interesting… I’ve heard a lot of positives about the Luna as well and the TD20 … I like the S12 but I’d prefer a slightly cooler sound maybe
were you at olympia? anyway thank you for the review.
@@Valter6532 hahahahahah too old for regular Olympia....but Masters Olympia is a possibility
Go for it! I had goals to go to Mater Worlds- Powerlifting
*masters
Excellent review and observations as always. Thanks for that great work. I follow many iem reviewers, but honestly I trust your opinion the most. I've chosen the Luna. Just a small recommendation- please leave the mic somewhere laying on the table. Its just annoying to hear your voice jumping around my head on every video 😅
@@isometrus apologies on the mic.
As for the rest I truly feel blessed that my work is appreciated by people like you
I think if you can get just the s12 pro, you already get the taste of the best.
Finally planar drivers that don t pick at 2khz
Akros, do you think, which is better - KZ PRX or Sgor Luna?
I may just buy a KZ PRX, sadly I have two of their IEMs, the ZVX and the Polaris, which were poorly manufactured. The ZVX had paint peeling, within the 1st 24 hours of use, and developed a stereo imbalance about 3 or 4 months after delivery - and is no longer usable. The Polaris was dead on arrival, and definitely the worst IEM I have ever heard, clearly something was wrong, highly distorted - I should have returned it. Also have an ARTTI T10 which has both a level imbalance in the stereo field, as well as a very noticeable difference in frequency response, between left and right.
This is the final frontier for ChiFi products, reliability and consistency. It's a most unpleasant experience - when you buy cheap to save money, but if the product does not last, then that is money wasted, a gamble like a lottery ticket
the problem with KZ is that they are so cheaply made. Not to last, so they want you to buy new again and again. I mean my KZ pr3 died after 3day (one channel is weak). So I literally bought them and stored them after 3days. No KZ iems lasted more that one month in my case (when it was in the slightly more frequent use). I am careful with my stuff. Drop KZ iem on some hard desk from 1-2cm or click the shells against each other while packing and there is a high chance that you will damage the inside solders. Then congrats. no sound. PS: the most recent iem from them KZ zs12proX is already chipped out with DD distortion on the right side.
I've bought a dozen KZs and listen to them a lot and so far no issues at all. But I get your point. Maybe I've just been lucky.
@@philipm.4738 You gotta be careful when you see claims like this. There are so many people with a grudge against KZ they talk bad about them but never even owned any or exaggerate any issues. Just to discourage others.
How unlucky are you mate. I have 3 pairs of kz and so far for the last 8 months i have no problem w any of them
I've had no problem with KZ build, unlike other cheap IEMs, like Waner that broke taking the cable off. Did get a lemon D-FI, but out of the zillion KZ sets I have, it's the only lemon. They are so easy to mod and most really shine when you replace the filters!
At Shopee Viet Nam, KZ PRX is a $35 set
I have money to buy it but I think my cheap Dongle Abigail Pro can't drive it 😢😢😢?
@@kikiwonwon29how about the fiio ka11 dongle? It should have enough power to drive this if I'm not mistaken. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong 😊