Maybe, but I am still curious what others will say. I am not planar blinded, but I do like planar sets very much because they can hit techs that you can't get at the same price points with anything but planar. And if you happen to have a nice dongle or dac/amp, nice to have a set that shows off those as well.
I really appreciate that you are one of the few reviewers that do KZ reviews. I know they have garnered a bad rep ( fair enough) but for value and fun, they are my go to choice more often than not. I don't own a planer yet, so these really intrigue me 🙂
What most people don't know, KZ doesn't send out many review sets, Linsoul sends out some, but generally it is not like it was a few years ago. KZ trusts a smaller group to not love everything, but be fair. And yes, planars are cool, whether you pick up PRX or another brand.
Heck yes!!! Been waiting for your take on this one. Going to pick one up and see how I like it! Another Planar for my collection hahaha. I'm interested to see how it stacks up vs the T10. I thought this was going to be a warmer planar, like KZs take on the S08 (Which I still think is fantastic), but it's kinda fulfilling to see KZ do their own take on the "Planar V-Shape" that the S12 is known for. Great video as always!
I was thinking the same thing about how it compares to the T10 because I love that one. IMO, the T10 is a detail monster throughout the whole frequency spectrum, and it scales well with my Shanling UA4...
@@ThatVideographerNick I have no experience with the PRX. So I can’t comment on sound. But what I can comment on is that the accessories on the T10 absolutely demolish the accessories on the PRX. The cable on the T10 is orders of magnitude better, and while the T10 doesn’t come with foam tips, it does have a nice carrying case and 2 sets of different tips to see which you prefer.
I'd say the tuning followed the PR arc of tuning which was not that warm, but they brought the treble down to the right level. Should they do a warmer style like S08 or MP145, yes. But as I said, you should EQ the bass for fun. You can make it warmer especially with the PRX treble levels.
Personally I am kind of glad they didn't make another "me too" dark tuned Planar, and just copy Letsheour. I am glad that they tamed the trebele down a bit, but still kept the KZ house sound. I think that was a good move on their part, and it makes me want to purchase it...purely because it's different.
i feel like kz planars are wonderful and an insane bang for the buck, even if youre not willing to eq or mod them. i will most definitely pick these up soon. (i have pr3s with a touch of foam in the nozzles, and theyre my daily drivers.) great review.
Nice to see KZ Planar and Planar tech in general maturing along side our beloved DD's before the eventual rise and takeover of MEMS in the future.............and they'll still hold a very special place in our analog-loving hearts 😊
@@PaulWasabii I still think the Symphony was their best-looking metal shell to date. Unfortunately it was too aggressive of a tune. Really could have used some tuning switches to lower bass and treble haha
I've been eyeing T10 as an upgrade from my PR3 up until now (I've read in other comments you can't make a comparison though, since you didn't have a T10), but it seems this is a candidate worth considering. My greatest worry however is that the driver mesh/tape/whatever is not shown in the marketing materials for this iem, so they can easily pull a PR2 claiming it was never even supposed to be there... I'd certainly want to wait a bit and see how it goes at least a month or two, but then I was also planning a purchase on the 11.11 sale so the T10 might be the only safe option for now.
I think both are nice sets. I am a planar fan so I don't care which, but I would like people to have a chance to hear a planar. KZ happened to put them out a lower price points. T10 is probably using S12 driver or something close to it. I have more confidence in T10 than F1 Pro which people also said was like an S12.
I feel like I always learn something from your reviews, even (or especially) when I have no interest in the specific IEM you're talking about. I've got a strange affinity for the Sivga Nightingale, but it's never been about its (very unusual) tuning. I EQ the heck out of its low end. This review gave me a better sense for what it is I like so much about it, despite its super-funky stock tuning.
I was going to say that but did not. The issue is the nozzle piece too, they would be back at PR2 mess. We'll see how more sets appear on squig too. It is tough to get matching planar graphs but they should be more consistent than any of the previous PR sets.
I have the PR2 V2 with foam mod and properly equalized to reduce treble. I hear nothing wrong with the sound after these mods. Worth the upgrade to PRX?
Probably not, you are close as the treble reduction is there in PRX. If you want to nitpick it, treble reduction without foam tends to retain more resolve so yeah, there is probably an incremental upgrade in PRX. If I were you, just watch it during the 11-11 sales and see if you can get one at a decent discount. No need to jump in to it today at full price.
Sorry, I'm still a little confused after watching the comparison part. Is this still worth getting if I have a CCA Hydro? I don't mind it being hard to drive, as I have a DAC/amp available.
At least we can now see that KZ is making an effort to get their planar-magnetic tuned right. I've always had some interest in their PR models, given that those got some good reviews, but every time they mention the "Ifs" and "Buts", I kinda felt I should hold out a bit more and wait if they will continue to make improvements. After watching your review, I think I'm gonna pull the trigger now.
You are right, the previous sets were either good for the price or good for some people, but mostly needed better tuning or EQ. PRX tries to hit both, high driver quality and tuned better.
I got the Campfire Audio audio Supermoon and its by far my favorite planar set. The bass and everything is literally the best I've heard. the semi custom fit probably helps alot.
Thank you planar bass fan. I have a heard a few planars and the bass presentation might not be for DD diehards, but I do love the levels it can handle under the mids.
@@PaulWasabiiI mean I love the slam it's capable of for metal because that's really all I listen to. I like dds but planars are just better with metal since they can handle the speed and the craziness of metal. I have a bunch of hybrids and none of them play as good as the Supermoon.
A lot of people ended up EQ'ing the PR1 Pro to lower the treble, that is mostly the change in PRX. If you are fine with PR1 Pro as-is, no real need for PRX unless you lose PR1.
At $55 this seems like a solid deal, if you want a nearly S12 set for about 1/3 of the price. I am a bigger fan of the S08 tuning, but I like things that are darker and warmer.
After the hole problem around PR2 and the mesh removal, I'm really avoiding KZ (specially after receiving my PR2 without mesh and with significant unbalanced R and L) so... My T10 is still the one to beat right now 😊
By your graph it looks like the PRX and PR2 bsically have the same bass. Im interested in seeing what happens if they tune their Planars to sound as bassy as their 2DD models, maybe not the Castor but the Hydro.
Yes, that bass shelf hasn't changed much, S12 is similar. Someone decided that sounds right, but planars can handle a lot more as I said and KZ should add more.
Your point number one at the start of the video is why I stuffed cotton bud material in the edges and ends of the casing, for my pr2. 245mw enough for prx? My Pr2 is so damped at this point it's not loud enough 😂
Yeah, there is a trade off in lowering the treble without foam or cotton and retaining a higher SPL. As I said, I was using 160mW and that will exceed your hearing. You just start noticing which tracks are mixed at different levels. Sadly you are blessed with extended hearing. I will say that KZ knew there was an issue but not sure they always hear it. Some of the lighter weight nozzle mesh isn't enough and its noticeable to me. More noticeable if you EQ often and can hear it both ways.
I am not sure that will happen. Its kinda like S12 2024, until they find a better driver, incremental improvements. PRX is like that, its about as good as they can get with this driver. So they would need to re-visit Symphony or something different. Add switches or something else. Both companies are dependent on improving the driver itself now which has been hard to do.
@@PaulWasabii their motivation to keep (or at least to) improving their products is highly appreciated. in the end, we the consumers are the one who also will get the benefit(s).
@@PaulWasabiiI think that the next logical step for tuning the planar would be to add switches on them. If the driver is at the edge of what they can physically do for tuning, switches could be great options to add some bass, reduce treble, or something like that (like on zs10pro 2)
Its a good back up and some chance it appeals more to you. Its not a clone of S12, so there is still a different flavor to it. You have S12, wait until the 11-11 sales and see the PRX drops.
I'm a bit scared of thst 8khz peak, is only a measurement error or it is really a bit shouty on that region? Also, I hope my Tempotec Sonata BHD is enough to drive it because its the dac I've been using lately because of its shape, the btr7 its really huge for me now
Shout comes from excess ~ 1.2khz to 4khz, and even if the 8khz peak is real, it's narrow and the magnitude isn't too high and should not be that bothersome when listening to music
Thanks! This set wasn't on my radar You said that the PRX is better than all previews versions but also that PR2 V1 had the foam over the driver. I have the PR2 V1, should I upgrade? Are Hydro shells the same size as the AS16 pro or larger? If I decided to get another planar instead of Hydro/SM4. Maybe the S08 or S12 og with EQ are better options?
My issue with flatout upgrading PR2 is that some had higher treble than others. The lower ones might sound more like PRX. I still think PRX is better but if you aren't using PR2 often, no need to upgrade. The hydro shape is slightly different from AS series, but both are similarly large compared to other KZ shells. If I was itching to buy a planar, I'd wait for 11-11 sales and see if PRX drops or any of those drop. S08 is cool, I just loosened the foam on it so it sounds more open.
It is as the treble tuning is better and it has the improvements from PR2 & PR3. PR1 Pro was nice though. If you EQ it, you are part of the way to PRX. That was the reality of most of the PR models, a lot of people were simply EQ'ing to a tuning close to PRX.
I never heard T10 but I suspect it uses S12 driver or close to it so no need to rush into PRX. The staging on PRX is actually quite good and better than some of the S12 units with the lowered treble. As I said, you need to be mindful of sources that emphasize upper mids as that will flatten a planar, a source light on bass will flatten it. Planars have enough treble air to sound big, it is usually trying to get the depth that is harder and PRX does that as long as your source pairing is right.
I have the S12 2024 and wonder if this, or the Hz Luna or Tiandirenhe TD20 would be better for less money. S12 sounds great … it really does, but if a set sounds even cleaner and more vibrant without losing the bass punch I’d prefer that for sure.
The KZ Symphony was a poor attempt at what I’m hoping to get from a planar set lol. s12 is close but it’s slightly warm which is not normally my preference.
I see you think the s12 2024 is the best lol…. I should listen to it more but so far I think I might be someone who likes hybrids better. The Pula PA02 Is like TOTL level for me
You are part of the group who may always prefer DD+BA as I said. Nothing wrong with that, we all have preferences. If you prefer Pula, you are probably also into timbre priority which is harder on planars which are about speed and resolve.
S08 is a different sound, bassy, really warm, less technical. For people who like warm, thicker sound, it does that but that is different than S12 and PRX. S08 is tough, it is targeting people who like DD sets with that sound, not really planar fans.
I wouldn't jump to PRX unless you have a nice dongle. The problem is there isn't a direct upgrade from ZS10 Pro X, there is different. So ZS10 Pro 2 is a more modern, refined, less treble version with switches so you can adjust the bass. The ZS12 is different. but it looks cool with all metal build. ZS10 Pro X is a bit older, the newer sets don't sound the same and might just sound like sidegrades.
I never heard the T10 so I have no idea if they did a decent job. If that is a clone of S12, that you can go either way. Go with the cheaper one or wait until the 11-11 sales and see which is cheaper. As I said, planars tend to have the same characteristics, just slightly different tuning.
Yes, planars are hard to get measurements that look normal in the treble. Mostly why I didn't talk about it. KZ's graph is more accurate on this set. 8K is an artifact used for alignment. All sets will show a peak there with people like me who align to 8k.
you've convinced me , start this series with PR1 PRO, then PR2, skip PR3 and this one seems a good and actual evolutionary another step , the lack of body and warmth , can be sidelined with a warmer source or naturally full body one , some R2R source or Tube Amp sounds about right but that had to take some test to confirm though
I am at one end of the sources, flat/uncolored and using wide bore tips. Slightly warm source, different tips will be a step in the other direction. I also EQ the bass +3db if I want more body or more for hiphop/EDM. Planars in general need some body, it just helps counter the planar timbre.
My suspicion is both Saga and PRX have inspirations, not accidental. With PRX, maybe part feedback, maybe inspiration from S12 2024 or the S12 treble trend. I think they waited until the tuning and new damper mechanisms were solid. Also I could be 100% wrong.
Of the ten planars, I kept only the P1Max (Panda) for myself - as the most more or less even and very emotionally sounding of hi-fi equipment. I tried the same Shuoer S12/S12Pro twice - but both times it was sold. Compared to Panda, the S12's vocals are pushed into the background and the cymbals are always in front (because of this, listening is not so exciting, even Jean-Michel Jarre's synthesizers sounded peaceful and without a spark). But after purchasing the Simgot EW200 - I rarely listen to Panda, I sold Moondrop Aria 2, and I'm still trying to sell Xenns Tea2 - the last two models are crap.
You fall in the looking for something different category as you tried S12. I would say enjoy P1Max and keep watching, I suspect there will be more planars trying different tunings as that is the area for growth.
Nope, that is a nice set as well, but slightly warmer tuning. That is like asking about S12 and MP145 too, did you waste your money on mp145 instead of S12, no they are different. Some people can't deal with the shells on MP145 so they might prefer PRX.
I usually check out many reviews, but Paul does his so concise and comprehensively that I literally have no questions left.
Maybe, but I am still curious what others will say. I am not planar blinded, but I do like planar sets very much because they can hit techs that you can't get at the same price points with anything but planar. And if you happen to have a nice dongle or dac/amp, nice to have a set that shows off those as well.
I really appreciate that you are one of the few reviewers that do KZ reviews. I know they have garnered a bad rep ( fair enough) but for value and fun, they are my go to choice more often than not. I don't own a planer yet, so these really intrigue me 🙂
What most people don't know, KZ doesn't send out many review sets, Linsoul sends out some, but generally it is not like it was a few years ago. KZ trusts a smaller group to not love everything, but be fair. And yes, planars are cool, whether you pick up PRX or another brand.
Heck yes!!! Been waiting for your take on this one. Going to pick one up and see how I like it! Another Planar for my collection hahaha. I'm interested to see how it stacks up vs the T10. I thought this was going to be a warmer planar, like KZs take on the S08 (Which I still think is fantastic), but it's kinda fulfilling to see KZ do their own take on the "Planar V-Shape" that the S12 is known for. Great video as always!
I was thinking the same thing about how it compares to the T10 because I love that one. IMO, the T10 is a detail monster throughout the whole frequency spectrum, and it scales well with my Shanling UA4...
This… I was looking at picking up my first Planars and now I’m stuck between choosing the T10 or the PRX…
@@ThatVideographerNick I have no experience with the PRX. So I can’t comment on sound. But what I can comment on is that the accessories on the T10 absolutely demolish the accessories on the PRX. The cable on the T10 is orders of magnitude better, and while the T10 doesn’t come with foam tips, it does have a nice carrying case and 2 sets of different tips to see which you prefer.
I'd say the tuning followed the PR arc of tuning which was not that warm, but they brought the treble down to the right level. Should they do a warmer style like S08 or MP145, yes. But as I said, you should EQ the bass for fun. You can make it warmer especially with the PRX treble levels.
Personally I am kind of glad they didn't make another "me too" dark tuned Planar, and just copy Letsheour.
I am glad that they tamed the trebele down a bit, but still kept the KZ house sound. I think that was a good move on their part, and it makes me want to purchase it...purely because it's different.
I’m sticking with my S12 Nothing by the master of the S12 driver Michael Bruce. Nothing made me skip S12 2024. Great review Paul.
My favorite planar set is my Campfire Audio Supermoon. Probably the best iem I've heard and I have a few.
Yes, a hand tuned S12 is a different animal.
S12 hmm very good but those prx are better
i feel like kz planars are wonderful and an insane bang for the buck, even if youre not willing to eq or mod them. i will most definitely pick these up soon.
(i have pr3s with a touch of foam in the nozzles, and theyre my daily drivers.)
great review.
OK so you didn't EQ, but foam in the nozzle on PR3 is a step or two towards PRX. It will sound familiar to you with that setup.
Nice to see KZ Planar and Planar tech in general maturing along side our beloved DD's before the eventual rise and takeover of MEMS in the future.............and they'll still hold a very special place in our analog-loving hearts 😊
Yes, after PR3 and Symphony, I wasn't sure what was going to happen. They needed to step back and tune it differently.
@@PaulWasabii I still think the Symphony was their best-looking metal shell to date. Unfortunately it was too aggressive of a tune. Really could have used some tuning switches to lower bass and treble haha
I've been eyeing T10 as an upgrade from my PR3 up until now (I've read in other comments you can't make a comparison though, since you didn't have a T10), but it seems this is a candidate worth considering. My greatest worry however is that the driver mesh/tape/whatever is not shown in the marketing materials for this iem, so they can easily pull a PR2 claiming it was never even supposed to be there... I'd certainly want to wait a bit and see how it goes at least a month or two, but then I was also planning a purchase on the 11.11 sale so the T10 might be the only safe option for now.
I think both are nice sets. I am a planar fan so I don't care which, but I would like people to have a chance to hear a planar. KZ happened to put them out a lower price points. T10 is probably using S12 driver or something close to it. I have more confidence in T10 than F1 Pro which people also said was like an S12.
I feel like I always learn something from your reviews, even (or especially) when I have no interest in the specific IEM you're talking about. I've got a strange affinity for the Sivga Nightingale, but it's never been about its (very unusual) tuning. I EQ the heck out of its low end. This review gave me a better sense for what it is I like so much about it, despite its super-funky stock tuning.
I noticed that on the Squiglink website you recorded the frequency response of the FiiO FD15. But why don't you have a review of these earphones? 🤔
The best pr of all pr1 pr2 pr3 this is the better of all
Lets see hoow long they keep the black mesh XD
I was going to say that but did not. The issue is the nozzle piece too, they would be back at PR2 mess. We'll see how more sets appear on squig too. It is tough to get matching planar graphs but they should be more consistent than any of the previous PR sets.
@@PaulWasabiia shift toward more consistency would be a very welcomed change in the planar ecosystem.
Probably for another 5 years
If it ain't a collaboration they'll keep it forever.
I have the PR2 V2 with foam mod and properly equalized to reduce treble. I hear nothing wrong with the sound after these mods. Worth the upgrade to PRX?
i thought he said PRX is meant for those who do NOT want to deal with modding.
Probably not, you are close as the treble reduction is there in PRX. If you want to nitpick it, treble reduction without foam tends to retain more resolve so yeah, there is probably an incremental upgrade in PRX. If I were you, just watch it during the 11-11 sales and see if you can get one at a decent discount. No need to jump in to it today at full price.
I have pr 2 with mode for treble peaks ...PrX is better bro better mids amd highs and more texturing at bass
Sorry, I'm still a little confused after watching the comparison part. Is this still worth getting if I have a CCA Hydro? I don't mind it being hard to drive, as I have a DAC/amp available.
I drive the PR2 with my audeze deckard amp dac and sounds wonderful..
Yep, planar on desktop amps is a step up as you are matching a source to what the driver can do. Its fine on a dongle but not the same as a desktop.
At least we can now see that KZ is making an effort to get their planar-magnetic tuned right.
I've always had some interest in their PR models, given that those got some good reviews, but every time they mention the "Ifs" and "Buts", I kinda felt I should hold out a bit more and wait if they will continue to make improvements. After watching your review, I think I'm gonna pull the trigger now.
You are right, the previous sets were either good for the price or good for some people, but mostly needed better tuning or EQ. PRX tries to hit both, high driver quality and tuned better.
I got the Campfire Audio audio Supermoon and its by far my favorite planar set. The bass and everything is literally the best I've heard. the semi custom fit probably helps alot.
Thank you planar bass fan. I have a heard a few planars and the bass presentation might not be for DD diehards, but I do love the levels it can handle under the mids.
@@PaulWasabiiI mean I love the slam it's capable of for metal because that's really all I listen to. I like dds but planars are just better with metal since they can handle the speed and the craziness of metal. I have a bunch of hybrids and none of them play as good as the Supermoon.
I own the KZ Pr1 Pro. LUV it!💕 Is there any point in buying the PRX? Am i missing the circus?🤡
A lot of people ended up EQ'ing the PR1 Pro to lower the treble, that is mostly the change in PRX. If you are fine with PR1 Pro as-is, no real need for PRX unless you lose PR1.
At $55 this seems like a solid deal, if you want a nearly S12 set for about 1/3 of the price. I am a bigger fan of the S08 tuning, but I like things that are darker and warmer.
After the hole problem around PR2 and the mesh removal, I'm really avoiding KZ (specially after receiving my PR2 without mesh and with significant unbalanced R and L) so... My T10 is still the one to beat right now 😊
Yep, they botched the PR2. It was the right idea and why it is back on PRX.
By your graph it looks like the PRX and PR2 bsically have the same bass.
Im interested in seeing what happens if they tune their Planars to sound as bassy as their 2DD models, maybe not the Castor but the Hydro.
Yes, that bass shelf hasn't changed much, S12 is similar. Someone decided that sounds right, but planars can handle a lot more as I said and KZ should add more.
Your point number one at the start of the video is why I stuffed cotton bud material in the edges and ends of the casing, for my pr2. 245mw enough for prx? My Pr2 is so damped at this point it's not loud enough 😂
Yeah, there is a trade off in lowering the treble without foam or cotton and retaining a higher SPL. As I said, I was using 160mW and that will exceed your hearing. You just start noticing which tracks are mixed at different levels.
Sadly you are blessed with extended hearing. I will say that KZ knew there was an issue but not sure they always hear it. Some of the lighter weight nozzle mesh isn't enough and its noticeable to me. More noticeable if you EQ often and can hear it both ways.
KZ PRX - The One
KZ PRX Pro - The One TO GET
KZ PRX Pro X - They brought the sibilant again
KZ PRX Pro 2 - Redefining S12 2024
I am not sure that will happen. Its kinda like S12 2024, until they find a better driver, incremental improvements. PRX is like that, its about as good as they can get with this driver. So they would need to re-visit Symphony or something different. Add switches or something else. Both companies are dependent on improving the driver itself now which has been hard to do.
@@PaulWasabii their motivation to keep (or at least to) improving their products is highly appreciated.
in the end, we the consumers are the one who also will get the benefit(s).
@@PaulWasabiiI think that the next logical step for tuning the planar would be to add switches on them. If the driver is at the edge of what they can physically do for tuning, switches could be great options to add some bass, reduce treble, or something like that (like on zs10pro 2)
Hey Paul, I daily use my S12 Pro, is PRX a good backup or actually better?
Its a good back up and some chance it appeals more to you. Its not a clone of S12, so there is still a different flavor to it. You have S12, wait until the 11-11 sales and see the PRX drops.
@@PaulWasabii ya waiting for 11.11 to buy lotsa stuff :D
I'm a bit scared of thst 8khz peak, is only a measurement error or it is really a bit shouty on that region?
Also, I hope my Tempotec Sonata BHD is enough to drive it because its the dac I've been using lately because of its shape, the btr7 its really huge for me now
8khz peak is a myth
8k is a measurement artifact used for alignment.
Shout comes from excess ~ 1.2khz to 4khz, and even if the 8khz peak is real, it's narrow and the magnitude isn't too high and should not be that bothersome when listening to music
How are they in comparison to Artti t10?
Thanks! This set wasn't on my radar You said that the PRX is better than all previews versions but also that PR2 V1 had the foam over the driver. I have the PR2 V1, should I upgrade?
Are Hydro shells the same size as the AS16 pro or larger?
If I decided to get another planar instead of Hydro/SM4. Maybe the S08 or S12 og with EQ are better options?
My issue with flatout upgrading PR2 is that some had higher treble than others. The lower ones might sound more like PRX. I still think PRX is better but if you aren't using PR2 often, no need to upgrade.
The hydro shape is slightly different from AS series, but both are similarly large compared to other KZ shells.
If I was itching to buy a planar, I'd wait for 11-11 sales and see if PRX drops or any of those drop. S08 is cool, I just loosened the foam on it so it sounds more open.
That's a very good idea.
Thanks 🙏
Hi! I have the PR1 Pro. Are you saying that the PRX is an upgrade from PR1 Pro?
It is as the treble tuning is better and it has the improvements from PR2 & PR3. PR1 Pro was nice though. If you EQ it, you are part of the way to PRX. That was the reality of most of the PR models, a lot of people were simply EQ'ing to a tuning close to PRX.
@PaulWasabii So if i have a PR1 that i'm happily EQing to my liking does the prx do anything better? Is the driver any more capable technically?
This guy is the Chris Hedges of IEMs. Look him up & you'll see he sounds a lot like him
How would you rate PRX against artti t10 and how is the soundstage and spacial staging of PRX in general?
I never heard T10 but I suspect it uses S12 driver or close to it so no need to rush into PRX. The staging on PRX is actually quite good and better than some of the S12 units with the lowered treble. As I said, you need to be mindful of sources that emphasize upper mids as that will flatten a planar, a source light on bass will flatten it. Planars have enough treble air to sound big, it is usually trying to get the depth that is harder and PRX does that as long as your source pairing is right.
Is PRX better than the PR1 Pro?
Easy bro easyyy get the PRX
I have the S12 2024 and wonder if this, or the Hz Luna or Tiandirenhe TD20 would be better for less money. S12 sounds great … it really does, but if a set sounds even cleaner and more vibrant without losing the bass punch I’d prefer that for sure.
The KZ Symphony was a poor attempt at what I’m hoping to get from a planar set lol. s12 is close but it’s slightly warm which is not normally my preference.
I see you think the s12 2024 is the best lol…. I should listen to it more but so far I think I might be someone who likes hybrids better. The Pula PA02 Is like TOTL level for me
You are part of the group who may always prefer DD+BA as I said. Nothing wrong with that, we all have preferences. If you prefer Pula, you are probably also into timbre priority which is harder on planars which are about speed and resolve.
What's your opinion on the PRX VS the S08??
S08 is a different sound, bassy, really warm, less technical. For people who like warm, thicker sound, it does that but that is different than S12 and PRX. S08 is tough, it is targeting people who like DD sets with that sound, not really planar fans.
I would really like to try some planar IEM, but just recently i got my EW300....
EW300 are nice, enjoy them for a while before chasing the next shiny new thing
Off topic, but what is everyone’s favorite 1dd+1ba or 1dd+2ba iem? Drop recs!
My guy, i own a pair of the kz zs10 pro x, should i upgrade to zs12 pro or pick the prx instead?
I wouldn't jump to PRX unless you have a nice dongle. The problem is there isn't a direct upgrade from ZS10 Pro X, there is different. So ZS10 Pro 2 is a more modern, refined, less treble version with switches so you can adjust the bass. The ZS12 is different. but it looks cool with all metal build. ZS10 Pro X is a bit older, the newer sets don't sound the same and might just sound like sidegrades.
@@PaulWasabii Thx man, appreciate it, which dongle should i try?
Is it better than the Artti T10? I'm in doubt between the two...
in the video he said it is 1/9 1/10 to letshuoer s12 2024
I never heard the T10 so I have no idea if they did a decent job. If that is a clone of S12, that you can go either way. Go with the cheaper one or wait until the 11-11 sales and see which is cheaper. As I said, planars tend to have the same characteristics, just slightly different tuning.
well, this one looks interesting, is the 8k peak a measuring artifact? if so i might just get this one when price drops!
Yes, planars are hard to get measurements that look normal in the treble. Mostly why I didn't talk about it. KZ's graph is more accurate on this set. 8K is an artifact used for alignment. All sets will show a peak there with people like me who align to 8k.
@@PaulWasabii thanks for the explanation, I will definitely get this one to try a planar iem
you've convinced me , start this series with PR1 PRO, then PR2, skip PR3 and this one seems a good and actual evolutionary another step , the lack of body and warmth , can be sidelined with a warmer source or naturally full body one , some R2R source or Tube Amp sounds about right but that had to take some test to confirm though
I am at one end of the sources, flat/uncolored and using wide bore tips. Slightly warm source, different tips will be a step in the other direction. I also EQ the bass +3db if I want more body or more for hiphop/EDM. Planars in general need some body, it just helps counter the planar timbre.
Blue driver? Obviously buying that.
Some kinda blue wrapping material but yeah, blue always sounds better.
Why do I have a feeling that it is not a tuning by design but rather an accident. A serendipity of sorts?
My suspicion is both Saga and PRX have inspirations, not accidental. With PRX, maybe part feedback, maybe inspiration from S12 2024 or the S12 treble trend. I think they waited until the tuning and new damper mechanisms were solid. Also I could be 100% wrong.
Hi Paul, what would I get from this PRX while I already have the S12 Pro ?
Negative, you have the best driver. If you want a cheaper backup or travel planar maybe, but no need to pick up PRX in your case.
you are legend bro🫡
Of the ten planars, I kept only the P1Max (Panda) for myself - as the most more or less even and very emotionally sounding of hi-fi equipment. I tried the same Shuoer S12/S12Pro twice - but both times it was sold. Compared to Panda, the S12's vocals are pushed into the background and the cymbals are always in front (because of this, listening is not so exciting, even Jean-Michel Jarre's synthesizers sounded peaceful and without a spark). But after purchasing the Simgot EW200 - I rarely listen to Panda, I sold Moondrop Aria 2, and I'm still trying to sell Xenns Tea2 - the last two models are crap.
You fall in the looking for something different category as you tried S12. I would say enjoy P1Max and keep watching, I suspect there will be more planars trying different tunings as that is the area for growth.
Go to know about this set.
But I'm going on team T10
It's kinda sad that some KZ sets have full metal build but others like this don't.
Yep, T10 is a nice set
I have bought mp145 instead of this am i wasting money?
Nope, that is a nice set as well, but slightly warmer tuning. That is like asking about S12 and MP145 too, did you waste your money on mp145 instead of S12, no they are different. Some people can't deal with the shells on MP145 so they might prefer PRX.
@@PaulWasabii why your data not in sound meow?
In South East Asia, it is a USD 33 set. S12 Pro is 4 times more expensive. S12 2024 6 times
It's 54-55USD on Linsoul :(
Truly they are undercutting the price hard. Nothing can come close to the price level.
OK, that is kinda crazy.