Star Trek's Worst Video Game (& Other Kelvin Tie-In Media) | RETROSPECTIVE
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- As we continue our retrospective on the post-2009 Star Trek reboot films, the Kelvin Timeline,I want to expand our scope a bit further than the mainline films to look at the expanded universe of the Kelvin Timeline itself, from the comics, books and… oh yes… that video game that everyone just kinda wants to forget ever happened.
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"WE ARE EXPERIENCING ECONOMIC DIFFICULTIES"
I need that as a shirt.
That's 2020 in a nutshell.
Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains! - Rom
Beyond _Beyond_ is a phenomenal title and I'm upset it was only for the in video title card.
That'scause JJ had little to do with it.
I’d like to see the kelvin timeline explored more, but like tng time of kelvin. And even the movie era
I'd like the next movie to be about the final adventure in the five year mission, and then movies in the old movie era. Maybe a TV show about the TNG crew in the Kelvin timeline.
STAR TREK KELVIN
it takes place not long after Into Darkness. The new Kelvin A has just been built and it’s pretty spiffy, but unfortunately something unprecedented has occurred in all of Star Trek, all of Starfleet’s dirty secrets have been revealed to the general public!
I hope we get a new Star Trek game within the next few years.
As long as it's good me too!
One that doesn't suck noodles.
I want Armada 3.
@@Macailbert this.
I'm existing on mods at the moment, theres several Armada style mods for Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion, for example.
They need to make a Kelvin timeline tv show. Have based on a new USS Kelvin starship!
"Marketable." I swear i almost fell out of my chair. Love ya Jessie.
08:33 everytime you throw a comic, i die inside a little
I will always remain fascinated by the Kelvin timeline, for all its many highs and lows.
While I am loving this new golden era of prime continuity Trek shows, I would also very much like to see the Kelvin timeline continue on in some form again.
All I want for Christmas is for Alex Kurtzman to confirm that the Gorn commercial is canon.
I have never wanted to read a comic more than those crossovers. This was awesome!
I like the beats and shouting
This is making me way more interested in reading star trek comics, thank you Jessie
Therapist: Muscle Picard isn't real, he can't hurt you.
Mirror Broken: ...
Muscle Wesley makes me feel things and I don’t know what to do with that
When i join and the video has 65 likes:
EXECUTE ORDER 66
oh sorry wrong franchise. . .
Edit: 8:32, A trekkie's comics deserve more respect
I love Trek games.
You're all too young to remember EGA Trek, but that was fantastic.
Also, Elite Force (+2) Bridge Commander, Armada (+2) Starfleet Command (all 4 of them) Klingon Academy, Starfleet Academy, BOTF, Klingon Honour Guard, A Final Unity, Judgement Rites, Generations, Away Team, that Trek "bro-op" game, Harbinger, Hidden Evil, Borg, Legacy, Tactical Assault, The Fallen, Dominion Wars...
I think that's all the ones I got.
What was my point with this list? I dunno. I can't remember.
A Final Unity is my jam, I managed to find a copy of it recently and play it through for the first time
I really enjoy Academy but my all time favorite is bridge commander. I.would really like a new one.
Loved these games (though I did not play all of them, but most), but now Star Trek Online is my jam. It was my Star Trek when there was no Star Trek on TV, and to this day I prefer it over new TV series.
"Star Trek Bridge Crew" was a also a tie-in VR game for the Kelvin Timeline and quite honestly when it came out it was insanely fun!
It started sucking when the license for the Voice Commands engine they used ran out, and you couldn't control the AI crew with voice commands anymore (which was SO MUCH FUN!) and after a while people also stopped playing it so the online co-opoption (which was also very very fun) became hard to play.
It also had insanely fun "classic" mode in which you piloted the original series Enterprise and all of the buttons were just flashing light bulbs and 60's electronics and it was so much fun trying to figure out how to do literally anything :-D
Later they also added a TNG mode but by that time almost nobody played it anymore and IIRC the voice commands died almost immediately after so it was a bit of a missed opportunity.
I had to edit the heck out of that co-op Star Trek game to make it... well, I don't want to say good, but it was definitely improved.
...
And I don't care, I still loved that game.
I do love how boldly they hit "reset" with the timeline. Bold, and very in keeping with the existing franchise - there have been alternate timelines created and(supposedly) destroyed from the beginning, so why not create one and have a really good look at it?
Hey Seal, I like how you think, my man. Completely agree.
Plus, Steve Shives, TrekCulture, Jessie Gender... stop stalking me, dude.
@@jolan_tru thanks? I think?
I really need to check these out, I've never read any of the comics!
You look great in that outfit by the way! ^-^
What I got from this is A)there's Kelvin comics? That retell old episodes with own twist and with Kirk thinking "everytime I hear "first officer", i think of spock."? Gimme! B)watch that video game cutscenes because yay original voices :D
I loved the 2013 Star Trek game! Granted it could have been more like Mass Effect but it was fairly enjoyable and I can honestly think of worse video games and game stories. Can we think of Charlie's Angels on Nintendo GameCube?! 😂😂😂
The split off of the rights explains why satr trek TOS,TNG,VOY,ENT,DS9,TAS,and Disco as well as the JJ Movies are on German Netflix BUT NOT the other movies.
Thats a lotta Star Trek comics!! Great vid!!
You seriously do have a problem. You don't have nearly enough Star Trek comics!
17:46 "And this game [...] is still considered to be one of the worst video games of all time.
*cut to clip of Simon Pegg in that Into Darkness interview saying "F*** off!!"
Back in my day, we had games that crashed every five minutes. We had games that didn't tell you how to win it, or why you died. We had games without hit detection. They know nothing of "worst".
You are the nerdiest Jessie and I love you for it lol
I think the Star Trek video game is a perfect representation of the Kelvin movies: An inferior action schlock copy of the original!
The comics are what made me really like the Kelvin Timeline. I also kind of like the game.
But really those countdown comics were the best when they came out and still make me wish we saw more in that non-canon tng timeline.
Of course there are Green Lanterns in the Star Trek universe, just like there are Pokemon on some planet somewhere that Captain Pike is going to find one day!
I still want to play that game. lockdown seems a great time to do it!
Thanks for the entertaining video Jessie!
Thanks for watching it ❤️
This video is just amazing
“MERCHANDIZING! Where the REAL money is made!” Yogurt
Nerds love STUFF! We love video games, comics, toy spaceships, action figures and costumes! That’s a big part of the appeal and a wonderful source of revenue for a savvy tv studio. I really wish CBS was a savvy TV studio.
Hell, bring John De Lancie back as a VA rather than a live actor so it doesn't have to deal with the fact that De Lancie has physically aged (Something that starting to becoming a problem even by Q2, honestly) and give me Star Trek: The Game Show 2 and I'd be happy... But I'm about the only person in the world who liked the original, probably not happening.
(...But I'd prefer Birth of the Federation 2...)
@@Stephen-Fox Lower Decks has!
It’s funny you mention that there should be green lantern in Star Trek, in the 70s we saw a cameo in DC comics of the green lantern from Vulcan.
Dayton Ward is also the coordinator for all Trek related products.
Of course it was super nice nerdy! That's why I watched it! 😁
8:32-8:41 Jesse, STOP THROWING YOUR COMICS ON THE GROUND! THOSE ARE AN EXPENSIVE LUXURY
There was a DS9 videogame on the Sega Genesis that I really disliked as a kid when I rented it from blockbuster
Ok... I need to get that Green Lantern crossover one.
Your handling of that Star Trek: Countdown comic book is making me cringe. As a comic book collector, I find your relatively rough handling of it horrifying. Please be more gentle with it. Please. With sugar on top. You dropping those Star Trek comics into a pile was traumatizing. How could you treat them so cavalierly? ;_;
I can't bare to see those poor comics being handled in such a manner!
@@frogoat So keep your clothes on then. :P
@@MonCappy That'll teach me not post anything while sleep deprived!
@@frogoat LOL
I didn't get through the game but its on my busted PC somewhere and I loved the soundtrack. I have tons of the kelvin comics, were fun to read.
Is it bad that i played that Star Trek game 😂
Is it worse that I spent months modding that game to improve it, then played it through about 8 times?
Don't answer, I know it's bad.
@@AndrewD8Red It's fine if you.enjoyed it. We all do things we regret 😂
CBS/Viacom/Paramount: **grabby Ferengi hand gestures**
Lmao
My sister naively got me the XBox 360 version of that game, and I agree, there is a good game struggling to get out of it but it just never quite reaches its full potential. It's not terrible, certainly not the "worst game ever" - I've played Superman 64, I _know_ what terrible looks and feels like - and as far as franchise tie-in games go, it's honestly one of the better ones out there. I've definitely played worse, and yea I did find some ... interesting bugs in the game but nothing that wasn't corrected by reloading a checkpoint, and the devs were kind enough to make the checkpoints plentiful, seemingly as a kind of apology for the rushed and buggy release.
It's not a game I see myself playing more than once, but at the same time I don't regret my time with it either. It was at least entertaining and I could see what they were trying to accomplish with it.
13:55 You have nothing to lose but your chains, comrade! :D
I would love to see a video where you talk about all your favorite Star Trek games!
Two Jessie uploads in a day? Is it Christmas already?
Paramount doesn't know what to do with their franchises unless it's Misson: Impossible . Maybe the success of Michael Bay's Transformers films ruined them in the long run?
We really haven’t had a AAA video game of Startrek
I still think the '09 movie's novelization is one of my favorite books of all time, bar none. I almost like it more than the movie itself lol. Anyway, fantastic video as always! I'm def gonna have to check out some of these!
I owned this game, and it was so, so misguided. I got it because I initially thought it would be closer to Mass Effect than a bad copy of Gears of War.
Star Trek really deserves its own RPG in the vein of KOTOR...
It still boggles my mind that the marketing material for this game used the word, I shit you not, “bro-op”
Massive "heck yes" for a single player narrative focused Star Trek RPG.
Maybe one made by Obsidian...? Or BioWare before they turned to shit.
@@AndrewD8Red I’ll only disagree in that I actually like the nu-BioWare games. Inquisition is *really* good, ME3 is the most fun game in the series to actually play (and the ending DLC improves things dramatically), and even MEA is pretty decent if taken on its own terms.
Very much enjoyed this. One thing you did miss mentioning was the young adult Starfleet Academy books that came out memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet_Academy_(2010s_book_series) Although you did cover basically everything else. Those are also not the greatest of literature. But they do give a better insight into things like Gaila and the formation of Spock and Uhura's relationship. Probably the weirdest thing is how they broke their backs to not have Spock and Kirk meet, since that wasn't supposed to happen until the movie.
Being both a fan of Star Trek and Star Wars, I've seen how JJ Abrams reacts to tie-in media and I think he REALLY dislikes it. I hate sounding so cynical, but I think it's because he's not a very good team player and doesn't like to be hampered down by other people's ideas and having to fit them into his vision. With Star Trek, I think they were willing to put off on tie-in media, while with Star Wars he just ignored what happened in their tie-in media (meaning the Lucasfilm Story Group had to scramble to figure out how it all fit together).
And I think this was to the detriment of this series. The way you keep people engaged is by giving them content. You can't reasonably come up with a new movie every few months or even every year, so you've got to keep them engaged with things like the comics and books. I think the Star Trek Ongoing (in particularly Boldly Go) is some of the best tie-in media I've read.
Wait. So, Midnight's Edge was right about how the rights to the franchise were split between CBS & Paramount?
Memory Beta treats Spectrum War as a separate universe to the proper Kelvin Timeline 🤓
you deserve more subscribers!
I have the game. I admit I haven't given it much playtime. I was moreso just excited to have a star trek videogames for a current console.
Regarding the older Trek comics, do you have Worldsinger? It's a TOS comic mostly notable for being written by Joe M. Straczynski, who would later become rather well-regarded for producing Babylon 5.
I loved this video game
I find it interesting that Digital Extremes made both the Star Trek game and my favourite game currently Warframe
Anyone can knock the video game all they want, but I got into it and it got me into the rest of Star Trek, and all its glorious depth
Logic says I must fan girl over your channel
The Star Trek game was actually made by one of my favorite game dev studios. They're mostly my favorite because of Warframe though, not so much Star Trek...
hi jessie! what do you think about star trek online? i mean particulary the story missions.. i think they contain a lot of wonderfull references to the tv-series etc.. :)
i play it on ps4, and this version is quite flawed here and there, but pc version seems to be much better. playing this game seriously will become time consuming.. BUT.. just playing through the story missions can be realy fun for a star trek fan ;)
Beyond was the best. ❤️
I loved the video! c:
I actually kinda like the Star Trek game on Xbox. Even though it's very similar to Gears of War and Mass Effect (but nowhere near as great Mass Effect), I was EXTREMELY happy that the Gorn were finally going to be featured. It would have been nice to have other species like the Tholians added to the threat. This game, for me anyway, was enjoyable and it helped to really get into Star Trek Online.
I could easily see them planning to include the Tholians and other races to potential sequels if the initial game had been more successful.
This was very niche nerdy but it’s my kind of niche nerdy 😏
I loved the Countdown comic, and read it (several few too many times lol) before watching 2009 and found it really helped me appreciate the story of the movie more, as I found it gave me a deeper understanding of the back story. True story, Mom and I watched 2009 together and afterwards she said “I really enjoyed that, but I think I must have missed some as I don’t understand why it really happened.” So I gave her the comic and afterwards she said “NOW I get it!”
We both agree that the countdown book would have made an excellent movie in its own right and would perhaps have helped eased the fans into the Kelvin timeline as it would have been Picard handing the baton to Kirk, almost mirroring (quite beautifully) the events of “Generations” where the roles were reversed.
Edit - Regarding the game, I actually enjoyed it and was glad of having a Trek game on console other than Legacy (which is AMAZING) I thought the graphics were great, and was so impressed the original cast were back to voice it (it took me back to memories of the 25th anniversary and Unity games on PC - yay! Nostalgia!) although for a shooter it did became repetitive towards the end and some of the camera angles felt a little janky, especially in corners or tight areas.
I bought that game, wish I hadn't.
Loved loved loved this episode!!! The part where you went rambling about the communist ideas behind Star Trek was freaking hilarious!! Keep up the amazing work Jessie!! 😘😘😘😘😘
I honestly can't recall many Star Trek video games that were any good. The only one I ever enjoyed to any level was Star Trek: Conquest and that only lasted so long before it ran out of gas. I have never played the one mentioned in this video. For me the worst of all time is the tailor trash of Star Trek: Encounters. I had hopes for it and in every aspect it was a massive let down.
Star Trek games in general are more miss than hit, and movie/franchise tie-ins have an even worse track record but the Trek game being discussed in this video is actually pretty decent, especially in comparison to the average Star Trek and/or tie-in game. It's not going to knock your socks off or anything, but it's reputation of being the "worst game of all time" is completely undeserved. There is quite a bit of fun to be had if you're patient and don't mind reloading checkpoints because of bugs and glitches - on the upside to that, the checkpoints are pretty generous and you'll only lose about half an hour of progress at most when you do need to reload.
If you're a fan of third person shooters like Mass Effect, Gears of War, Resident Evil 4 and so on, you'll likely have a pretty good time with it. Hell, I'm not even really into those kinds of games and I have a very low threshold of tolerance for bad games and I managed to get all the way to the end because I genuinely wanted to see how the story finished.
To bad they never did a GI Joe Star Trek comic.
DC Comics handled the comics the best of all of them. Plus, Chris Claremont wrote the best story "Debt of Honor". The Mirror Universe storyline was great as well.
Was (elderly) T'Pol in any of those comics?
The KIRK vs GORN round #2 Was a well worth waiting for rematch !! I am considering becoming a patron or sending money but as ya said,you may be developing a problem/habit/addiction/a horde of TR8BBLES on your back !! You have STAR TREK paraphernalia comming out of the ying/yang and sometimes I wonder what universe you are in ?! Maybe if ya promise to get some professional help and check into a TREK detox your life will become more manageable?! Until then we will be keeping an eye on ya should your STAR TREK psychosis become worse,if that be possible !!
I liked the video game, and have played it through to completion several times. I have encountered a few bugs, but nothing game breaking, so I guess I'm lucky in that respect.
Also the events of the game are also referenced in the IDW comics, with the Gorn making a couple of appearances too.
I actually think it's one of the better Star Trek games out there, up there with Elite Force
I remember encountering a few bugs and glitches too, but like you said, nothing really game breaking and most of them were easily corrected with a quick checkpoint reset but since the game is pretty generous with the checkpoints it's not like I lost hours of gameplay.
14:37 Could you please make a video on the visual similarities between Mass Effect and Star Trek Discovery? :)
Actually, Mass Effect would be worth a video on how it approaches secual orientation and identity, especially with the Asari, wouldn't it? :)
Because of the atrocities committed in the last movie massive policy changes have been implemented across Starfleet. A civilian government overseer has been assigned to every ship. Reporters are now onboard and they have access and clearance to everything and the ships weapons have been locked. They can only be unlocked by clearance from Starfleet Command!
The DEFUND STARFLEET movement has gotten a lot of traction!
With what? There is no money in the future XD
@@Redrally well yes and no. They don’t use currency but there is an economy. Resources, manpower and supplies are still issues to worry about.
@@Redrally but my main plot point is that in the Kelvin universe civilians have grown sick of Starfleet and believe they’ve become to militarized and too powerful.
The state of mental health in this country is so sad
Everyone STILL wants to be Uncharted. That game is basically the beta for every other game these days
...So... After watching this I'm still not sure where the Metroid Prime inspiration was? (How would you even do a Trek Metroidvania? ...Actually, no, I can see it working if you strand most of a crew and then let you swap between them as you find them, each with their own unique abilities that let them get past certain obstacles. I think there's been a couple of multiple protagonist games in that genre - maybe with a c64/NES TMNT style health system so each has their own separate health bar but you can swap between them at any point?)
With the right story, a Star Trek Metroidvania game would be crazy awesome.
Too many comics...?
All those words sound like english, but I don't understand that sentence at all.
Did you mean to say 'Not enough bookshelves'?
Have you read the Star Trek Starfleet Academy and Star Trek early voyages marvel comics? I liked them
I have and I have!
Which comic(s) had Tom Baker's Doctor in it?
I was really looking forward to that game, until I got my hands on it...
OMG where can I buy this shirt?
17:57 Star trek Fleet Command (by $¢opely, the new EA) ,
only ST in name only, more like Road Warrior anarchy and you need to pay ample Latinum to even play
I must be old or something, I rather enjoyed the reboot Star Trek game :| I mean it was super flawed but I had a good time with it, especially coop.
Imagine Star Trek Online... ...but in good.
Is Star Trek Bridge Crew Kelvin timeline?
Wait, ....Green Lanterns!? But how is Hal Jordon still alive in the 23rd century!?!?
Sheer power of will
Ah, so I can blame Bad Robot for the lack of Star Trek action figures.
C'mon CBS, gimme some good six inch scale toys... I wanna make my dream crossover of Power Rangers and Star Trek a reality.
I'm glad you didn't say 'Warp me!'. I love Star Trek: The Lower Decks, but 'Warp me!' is a bit cringy....
Come on, if you had a Starship of your own you'd be like "MAKE THE WARPY HAPPEN!!!"
Well, I would anyway.
I do like Riker's "give me warp in the factor of a-five, six, seven, eight..."
And yet, it's still not as bad as Into Darkness...
Facts. The video game was actually fun ... most of the time ... and mostly made sense within the Kelvinverse.
If another Trek game comes out it will undoubtably be an online experience where you have to deal with other players. I hate that shit. Just give me an old fashioned single player open universe type of game. Why does every Trek game have to be multiplayer? I hate other people.
Sounds like you REALLY liked Elite Force 2? 😏 I’d be interested in a review of it, if you want to record one. I don’t expect it would be worth me contributing more than a little consultation, my views on parts of the game I remember for example, but I’d be happy to do that! 😊
I did an alternate cover for the Star Trek/Green Lantern comic, the "Stranger Worlds" one. memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Aaron_Harvey