The Star Destroyer took forever to start firing, it would have been using antiaircraft weapon's, ion cannon's as well as missiles to engage the fighter's and even missiles way sooner. Her Turbo Lasers and Tractor Beam projector's would also be used for defense as well. The Tie fighters would also be hard to engage as they can slow to a stop so the jet's would just fly past and get shot. She also Has 72 Tie Series fighter's from standard to bomber's as well as various shuttle's. In reality the carrier group would be taken out by high altitude orbital bombardment. The graphics were cool though.
Um a star destroyers turbo lasers have to lock on to fire and without locking on they’d be more likely to hit there own ship than the hit the jets and the jets are moving to fast to lock on
@@nonwhistlindiesel130 when Tie Fighters canonically have lasers that fire with the power of mininukes I cannot imagine how much of a boom a friggin Star Destroyer's turbo laser would do even if it's hitting just the water
Drop one long steel pole from space that hits the ship. The ship is completely destroyed. Any bunker would also be destroyed the same way. No need of a bomb.
@@voidtempering8700 If traveling at the right speed. It would defeat any shield. You can't change the law of physics. Now or ever. Plus what I was saying was. A large steel rod dropped from space would destroy anything it struck on earth.
@@assassinlexx1993 That is not true at all, an ISD, depending on feats, can easily withstand megatons of energy, possibly gigatons. While the rods from God, was not even in the kiloton range. It looks like you have a poor understanding of how exactly those rods worked.
This was simulation zoo. You can't really simulate such a battle if laws of physics are to be respected because star wars stuff often breaks the laws of physics.
Yeah those ties should fly like dogshit in the atmopshere lol and they shouldve died a lot quicker. Also i see the carrier fleet using nukes at this point lol.
Lets be honest, the ISD wouldnt even go into orbit for a Carrier group like this and just do a Orbital Bombardment of the entire Fleet without them realizing it and if the Tie-Fighters would go in for the American Fighter Planes they would propably overwelm them and kill them with ease as well sicne a Tie-Fighters Pilot has a much higher G-Tolerance because of Star Wars Magic as we could see during the Newer Movies wheer Tie-Fighters pulled some serious manuvers in very low Planetary Orbit. So yea id say 10/10 ISD win even if there where no Fighters beeing deployed by the ISD it would still win because of its Shield Generators and other high tech stuff
@@andiearbeit6287 I wouldn't find it impossible for the suits to be advanced enough to allow the pilot to take more Gs or the TIEs having machines that limit the amount of Gs the pilot has to survive.
AndieArbeit ISDs are incredibly massive, the fleet would probably get early warning from satellite imagery and move somewhere the Star Destroyer isn't aiming to hit with a bombardment, but the possibility exists that the ISD would just be completely undetected and destroy the fleet.
Star destroyer commander: "What the fuck are they doing?" Deck officer: "Don't know, Sir. We think they are trying to destroy us.." "They understand we have shields that can take a hit from a Mon Calamari cruiser, right?" "Not apparently Sir.." "Sweet Jesus.. What are they called?" "''muricans, Sir.." "What a silly name to a silly enemy.."
While you are correct, there are also different type shields in the Star wars lore. Ray shields are plasma based shielding, Particle shields protect against physical projectiles, and Deflectors which the most common kind on Star Ships, Protect from both but not as effectively as the other two its more of dampener.
My one gripe about this is that the star destroyer isn't firing back - though I can get the technical problems. Still, it'd be awesome to see some F-14s weaving between all of the green turbolaser fire streaking up from the star destroyer.
As soon as the ties merge with the jets, the ties would delete every jet. The SD would just snipe the carrier instantly. There is nothing a carrier group could do against a SD, even if it had 0 shields the armor would just laugh.
@@antilarge7860 Can you fire a star destroyer class turbolaser in the atmosphere without blowing yourself up? I know you can fire *into* atmosphere, but guns that are designed to fire in vacuum may not react well to oxygen and heat transmitting gases.
@@rinneganitachi4840 TIE Advanced have them too. To scratch that itch, the TIE Fighter Total Conversion Mod is supposed to release soon. It looks great if you played TIE Fighter back in the day.
@@ImperatorTheodosius TIE advanced ? you mean TIE Interceptor ? one model newer than the basic tie ? i thought they didnt have shields... and yeah i did play that was great back then...imperial transports have shields and probably that stealth TIE with clocking abilities probably has them
I don't think they will be able to even shoot the deathstar let alone have the time to do anything plus I think it would take out a little more than just a US Carrier group LOL.
My great uncle (grandfathers brother) was US Navy during Korea. I showed this to him and he laughed at first and rolled his eyes but then got into it bigtime! He thoroughly enjoyed it. He already asked me for another one when I go visit him. Thank you gentlemen!
On the serious side /usa is talking about ufos( = vehicles that have remarkable turning and acellaration unknown to man , have decided to buy more weapons to kill each other ,but no counter measures to defeat the alien or aliens that defy our air space everyWhere on the globe..=independence Day . Something is wrong with this picture.all humans should stop fighting and assist each other in the world effort.
@@AUS-q5f well ..not really .the pentagon confirmed for us that there are UFOs that are visiting us for 30 years .So hard to believe so much spin that memories are shortened .Opportunity missed .and it was happening on the 4th of july 2021. .ua-cam.com/video/Y-cqyWeYVMk/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/SKsLK_Na7iw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/xPQa6oWQtTc/v-deo.html They don't get it ,see ........ ua-cam.com/video/siZPaZ9hcEA/v-deo.html . anyway the opportunity is gone .....maybe forever .
Technically a Star Destroyer has to divert its main reactor power from the shields to the repulsorlifts (antigravity engines) when flying in atmosphere.
@@springbloom5940 the isd can detect target 400k out on passive scanners..its can target a shoot down fights flying fast asf long distances also. I think they are fine
An Imperial-class Star Destroyer just needs to stay in high orbit and do a *_Base Delta Zero_* orbital bombardment... the carrier group wouldn't stand a chance. I thought the complement of TIE Fighters was 72 for an ISD, not 48....
@@fattyMcGee97 yeah, but against an Earth military with no spacefaring navy, no shield technology, and no turbolasers (technically plasma cannons) a single ISD can do a Base Delta Zero bombardment with ease.
Oh my goodness, the commentary is fan-freaking-tastic! I feel like I'm hearing myself when I was a kid...and maybe as an adult with my kids. Great job guys!
Since you done star wars question is in the star trek show the damaged enterprise was trying to get back into orbit and an f-104 star fighter was sent to intercept got destroyed by the tractor beam can you recreate this maybe a few fighters going after the enterprise
Load F14s and f 18s with bunker busters, drop from 30,000 feet. Do not engage tie fighters, let cwis and air defence missiles on destroyers deal with them.
i know why the harpoons went crazy: the star destroyer is classified as a ship, so they kept trying to go for the water under where the ship actually was
When they are not under orders to miss their targets. Stormtroopers were very well trained, they were told to _harass_ but not kill Leia’s rescue party because they needed them to take the tracker to Yavin 4
That hole in the back of a tie fighter isn't the engine exhaust. It's a rear view window. The engine exhausts are 2 red dots in either side of the hull.
Truly an amazing meme worthy video that made me laugh my ass off. However the major problem with this is that the SD would simply ascend to low orbit and then perform a Base Delta Zero. Which is an orbital bombardment that turns the targeted area into molten slag. Therefore the CSG would never even see the SD let alone hit the damn thing.
You need a Grim Reapers mission vs couple of Star Destroyers this time without mucking up the tie fighters. I wanna see what the tie fighters can do against chimpanzi pilots, ja?
Darth: “General Disarray, send a squad of stormtroopers down to this pitiful planet and bring me the Grim Reapers. I want their captain alive! No disintegrations! Their captain shall answer, personally, to this outrage!” 🤣
I think the reason the SD didn't attack until late, was because he arrived in DQ034, which is where the CV started from, but the CV had moved west out of range of DQ034. The attack was planned on DQ034 and not a specific ship or group of ships.
Star Destroyer: "Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision." Americans: "Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision." Star Destroyer: "This is the Captain of an Imperial Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course." Americans: "No. I say again, you divert YOUR course." Star Destroyer: "This is the Imperial Star Destroyer ISS Darth Vader, the second largest ship in the Imperial's Atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three cruisers, three hundred TIE fighters, and a Death Star. I demand that YOU change your course 15 degrees north, that's one five degrees north, or countermeasures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship." Americans: "This is a Spanish lighthouse. Your call." Star Destroyer enters hyperspace. Americans: 😎
If this ever happened in real life, we'd be fucked. Really depends on what ship they're using. If it's an acclamator, then maybe we have a chance. But if it is something like the Imperial Class-1 or Imperial Class-2, we're really fucked. Especially if it's a fleet.
In reality, how it would actually happen..... 1 Imperial-Class star Destroyer appears Klaxon alarm is heard on all decks..... Troopers rush to battle stations Nothing happens, no retaliation from enemy planet....... Officer on deck: *Open fire* orbital bombardment commences. Entire US carrier fleet disappears in a flash of green explosions. Mass panic as military installations turned into craters. Message arrives from the ground: Earth has Capitulated. The end.
A few details from a retired USN vet. The surface ships depicted can be maxed out with 64 Harpoons, which are not fired from VLS. There are 640 VLS launchable missiles, an assortment of SM2s and Tomahawks, not ASROCs or ESSMs between the DDGs and CGs. All of which can be fired upon the Star Destroyer. This doesn't include the additional 20 or so more Harpoon/Tomahawks that each of those subs can launcher either from it vertical launchers or its torpedo tubes. Harpoons can be programmed to fire down a bearing. SM2s are semi-homing meaning the ships lock onto the target. The FFGs use a single missile launcher with a beam riding SM1 missile. The carrier is also equipped with the surface to air version of the AMRAAM, aka, NATO Sea Sparrow. Given the size of the target and any and all the missiles can be fired it with very little probability of missing. Just the missiles I mentioned from only the ships (as opposed to the aircraft) can deliver at least 250,000 lbs of explosives to that Star Destroyer in less than 10 minutes. Then the guns between just the CGs and DDGs can deliver another 250,000 lbs of explosives once the star destroyer closes within 8 miles. CIWS is strictly a defensive weapon and was used incorrectly in this video. If you're going to lock onto with the CIWS you might as well use the 50 cals too. Even though there are 25mm cannons as well, they're meant for surface targets. Each of those ships, even the carrier, has at least a dozen 50s each it can bear down on that Star Destroyer with thousands of rounds. The big question is, is a half a million pounds of explosives enough to rip this star destoyer out of the sky? If not, each tomahawk can be equipped a low yield, tactical nuclear warhead.
Unlike most commenters, I own a Star Destroyer, purchased directly from the spirit of Anakin Skywalker, who was downsizing. Some notes: 1) it is very large and heavy; 2) It doesn't make those great rumbling sounds from the movie because nobody has a 50 TW cyclotron to start the engines; 3) the alien paint is peeling in a disgusting way; 4) parking any mile-long vehicle is a challenge; and 5) it is quite the conversation piece. It could no doubt slay a carrier group, but as I told Crazy Chester, I'm a peaceful man.
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This should be a piece of cake for the carrier group. Tie fighters rely on dogfighting, the US relies on missiles that can hit targets at least 25 miles away. Cruise missiles can hit targets thousands of miles away and any nuclear submarines in the carrier group will be able to launch nuclear ICBMs. If the star destroyer is in range of any of the carrier groups weapons than it's in trouble and TIE fighters are obsolete af compared to any US fighter post-Korean war Edit: Also star wars ships shields are typically designed to protect against laser or plasma weapons. It seems like most shields offer no protection against physical objects like missiles
False equivalency. A single xenomorph is susceptible to small arms fire. A US carrier group would have way too much firepower no matter how you set up that scenario.
I'm prettybsure the ISD would have fired on the carrier even at that 70km range, but I definitely think jets have some chance against the TIEs, even if they're more maneuverable.
Cap, in case you didn't know TIE Fighters are NOT shielded.... TIE Interceptors and TIE Bombers can be retrofitted with shield generators, but TIE Fighters don't have them. Now Darth Vader's TIE Advanced x1, the TIE Advanced v1, and the TIE Defender come with shields standard.
The most interesting "death" of a US carrier was in Stargate. When a Hitak class mothership opens up on a US Carrier group, from orbit, 200 miles up... and in less then a minute the entire carrier group is gone except the subs. the Plasma blasts from orbit just obliterating ships.
TIE Fighter have top speed of only 1200 kph in atmosphere: equivalent to 746 mph or Mach 0.98 and no shielding. Top speed of F18 Hornet 1190mph. F 14 Tomcat 1550 mph twice speed of Tie Fighters with no shielding. Both F 14 and F 18 missiles and guns would be capable shooting them down. The Tie Fighters is an aerodynamic disaster, with a drag coefficient of 0.98, making it roughly as aerodynamic as a cube. Once again in scenarios such as this that Aircraft Carrier would have everything in Air protecting the most available asset Aircraft carrier but in your sim you always seem to put only half its air wing up. Now, Star destroyer does have shielding, the question is how much can it take being struck by missle coming from 4 destroyer 2 frigates 2 Cruiser plus submarines and F14 and F18. The Star Destroyer doesn't have large weapon system on bottom of ship.But it is capable of firing downward It's primarily weapons are along side and top of Star Destroyer sort of old school like 16th and 17th century War ships using broadside firing. The first ship to fire missiles would be from destroyers carrying 90 missiles each, frigates with their missiles and anti ship missiles penguins and hell fire missle by its and Cruiser they would have 60 missiles are carried for each of the two mk41 VLS. You don't show shielding of Star Destroyer nor its anti Fighters defense equivalent to Old World War II Style anti Aircraft stlye guns, the Star Destroyer called turbo lasers. You don't indicate which Star Destroyer that have different armament such turbo lasers ion cannons and missiles. All in all horrible video no research done at all. There is tons of source material on Starwars as well as US Nav and its tactics
More importantly, a Star Destroyer is capable of bombarding surface targets from orbit. Why would it go into the atmosphere, where it would be in range of aircraft and missiles, while the Star Destroyer and its complement of TIE fighters would suffer from poor aerodynamics? As an analogy, Roman legionnaires were probably better at hand-to-hand combat than US marines. So, this is like the scenario of a Roman legion vs. a modern Marine brigade, but for some reason the Marines don't just shoot the Romans from a safe distance and instead decide to fight in a hand-to-hand melee.
Those Su-33s taking off from the Aigaion will surely give the hornets a headache. Or maybe, thinking better, I'd like to see how does an Osean, I mean, an US carrier group will fare against two Erusean-hijacked Arsenal Birds? Please take note that, after destroying the Arsenal Birds, the pilots will have to face high-end laser firing drone aircraft, fly through a tunnel chasing down the craft that managed to latch out from said drone, shot down said craft, and them fly upwards through the shaft from the local space elevator. The risk, besides sinking the carrier group, is launching a machine apocalypse.
TIE fighters do have shields. They are evident in the films. This stuff about them not having shields is fandom silliness; people forget the first three movies exist. TIE Fighter fuel is not explicitly explained in the films, but the various extended fluff sources just says that it's contained in a pressurized fuel tank under the cockpit. As far as ECM ability: I wouldn't be overly shocked, as the rebels never see them coming in the films.
As if a star destroyer would even enter atmosphere to punch out surface ships. One minute of Turbo laser barrage would have punched all the ships under. Good thing this is hypothetical eh?
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Are the empire staff on strike? Where’s the turbo cannons
@@kingpingchoi246 Recharging like your smart phone.
We need more of this
Now we're getting to the real questions of national security
I don't like edited comments with government information involved lol feels shady. Are you ok? Did you edit under your own will?!
The US obviously suffers from a Proton Torpedo Gap. We can't show weakness in the face of the Sith!
@@Magnulus76 we've been developing our own wookies to compensate...
I want a rematch with F-22's,35's,J-20's and Su-57's vs Chad Vader.
@@osuna3525 Vader could just Force divert the missiles
Just great, the Pentagon is gonna want a even bigger budget for Star Destroyer defense now…
Quick! Send in the Aero gavins!
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@@Redemptorchapter forget the t 75, get that good ol t 65 xwing
Yeah, that's the equivalent of forget the f 15 and a 10, get a p 51 and p 47
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 I do not recognize the apocryphal episodes.
The Thrawn Triolgy is the real sequels
The Star Destroyer took forever to start firing, it would have been using antiaircraft weapon's, ion cannon's as well as missiles to engage the fighter's and even missiles way sooner. Her Turbo Lasers and Tractor Beam projector's would also be used for defense as well. The Tie fighters would also be hard to engage as they can slow to a stop so the jet's would just fly past and get shot. She also Has 72 Tie Series fighter's from standard to bomber's as well as various shuttle's. In reality the carrier group would be taken out by high altitude orbital bombardment. The graphics were cool though.
lmao it could just sit there and take the hits till we got nothing left
Um a star destroyers turbo lasers have to lock on to fire and without locking on they’d be more likely to hit there own ship than the hit the jets and the jets are moving to fast to lock on
@@nonwhistlindiesel130 when Tie Fighters canonically have lasers that fire with the power of mininukes I cannot imagine how much of a boom a friggin Star Destroyer's turbo laser would do even if it's hitting just the water
Apart from the tie fighters you are right , our jets wouldn't go against them with guns but missiles which wouldn't care if they fly or stop
Unless the navy were using nukes I feel like a single star destroyer could absolutely wipe out most world fleets
Is a simple case of technological differences, this video is a joke I guess... 🤣
Drop one long steel pole from space that hits the ship. The ship is completely destroyed. Any bunker would also be destroyed the same way.
No need of a bomb.
@@assassinlexx1993 On the star destroyer? It's shields would laugh at an attack like that.
@@voidtempering8700
If traveling at the right speed. It would defeat any shield. You can't change the law of physics. Now or ever.
Plus what I was saying was. A large steel rod dropped from space would destroy anything it struck on earth.
@@assassinlexx1993 That is not true at all, an ISD, depending on feats, can easily withstand megatons of energy, possibly gigatons. While the rods from God, was not even in the kiloton range. It looks like you have a poor understanding of how exactly those rods worked.
Plane: * launches missile *
Cap: proceeds to make an impression of Gollum on crack
Or everytime he saw a Tomcat
@@callancaustic9355 "and... OH LOOK ATTHETOMCAT, IT'S BDJAOEKBJRLSLGCJNABRBTHYCTDHS
That must be the most amused Super Cap I've ever seen in a DCS Reenactment. LOL
I love it!
@@William3000x "Reenactment" - I must have missed the original?
"Lexx, destroy the carrier group."
"And the planet they're on, Stanley?"
"Sure, why not."
Stan the man.
Underrated comment...
But Stanley there are many Beautiful women on this planet!
OH Yes, s a LEXX Comment, so underrated but too weird for most Science Fiction fans.
@@Wolfen443 To boldly go where no sex slave has gone before
Who else thinks this wasn’t exactly a fair or accurate fight for either side?
This was simulation zoo. You can't really simulate such a battle if laws of physics are to be respected because star wars stuff often breaks the laws of physics.
Yeah those ties should fly like dogshit in the atmopshere lol and they shouldve died a lot quicker. Also i see the carrier fleet using nukes at this point lol.
Lets be honest, the ISD wouldnt even go into orbit for a Carrier group like this and just do a Orbital Bombardment of the entire Fleet without them realizing it and if the Tie-Fighters would go in for the American Fighter Planes they would propably overwelm them and kill them with ease as well sicne a Tie-Fighters Pilot has a much higher G-Tolerance because of Star Wars Magic as we could see during the Newer Movies wheer Tie-Fighters pulled some serious manuvers in very low Planetary Orbit. So yea id say 10/10 ISD win even if there where no Fighters beeing deployed by the ISD it would still win because of its Shield Generators and other high tech stuff
@@andiearbeit6287 I wouldn't find it impossible for the suits to be advanced enough to allow the pilot to take more Gs or the TIEs having machines that limit the amount of Gs the pilot has to survive.
AndieArbeit ISDs are incredibly massive, the fleet would probably get early warning from satellite imagery and move somewhere the Star Destroyer isn't aiming to hit with a bombardment, but the possibility exists that the ISD would just be completely undetected and destroy the fleet.
1:57 20 hornets and 10 tomcats. So in other word 30 rebels ships, but they’re so small they’re evading our turbo lasers.
Well, they'll have to go out & destroy them ship-to-ship. Get the crews to their fighters.....
Star destroyer commander: "What the fuck are they doing?"
Deck officer: "Don't know, Sir. We think they are trying to destroy us.."
"They understand we have shields that can take a hit from a Mon Calamari cruiser, right?"
"Not apparently Sir.."
"Sweet Jesus.. What are they called?"
"''muricans, Sir.."
"What a silly name to a silly enemy.."
I wish I could give this comment more than one like.
Star wars sheilds don't protect against kenetic projectiles. It's why an A wing was able to ram the bridge of a super star destroyer and kill it.
@@elitemook4234 No rewatch the seen the sheilds were taken out moments before.
While you are correct, there are also different type shields in the Star wars lore. Ray shields are plasma based shielding, Particle shields protect against physical projectiles, and Deflectors which the most common kind on Star Ships, Protect from both but not as effectively as the other two its more of dampener.
Huh… imperials that believe in Jesus.
My one gripe about this is that the star destroyer isn't firing back - though I can get the technical problems. Still, it'd be awesome to see some F-14s weaving between all of the green turbolaser fire streaking up from the star destroyer.
Yeh but what can u do
This scenario definitely needs development to make it work and it needs live players.
As soon as the ties merge with the jets, the ties would delete every jet. The SD would just snipe the carrier instantly. There is nothing a carrier group could do against a SD, even if it had 0 shields the armor would just laugh.
I'm hoping for more redos along these lines. I'd be in favor of a full crew of folks in the fighters on both sides.
@@antilarge7860 Can you fire a star destroyer class turbolaser in the atmosphere without blowing yourself up? I know you can fire *into* atmosphere, but guns that are designed to fire in vacuum may not react well to oxygen and heat transmitting gases.
"Sir it appears that there are some aggressive flys living on this planet."
lol
HORSE FLYS
7:30: TIEs don't have shields. Guys, this is basic knowledge.
Yup only TIE Defenders have shields
i was looking to see if anyone else would mention this.
@@rinneganitachi4840 There are more with shields, cba to list them.
@@rinneganitachi4840 TIE Advanced have them too. To scratch that itch, the TIE Fighter Total Conversion Mod is supposed to release soon. It looks great if you played TIE Fighter back in the day.
@@ImperatorTheodosius TIE advanced ? you mean TIE Interceptor ? one model newer than the basic tie ? i thought they didnt have shields... and yeah i did play that was great back then...imperial transports have shields and probably that stealth TIE with clocking abilities probably has them
Need a repeat with everything programmed to fire correctly. Would be amazing furball.
Next: "Can the Death Star Beat A US Carrier Group?"
I don't think they will be able to even shoot the deathstar let alone have the time to do anything plus I think it would take out a little more than just a US Carrier group LOL.
Space force*
@@heathbrooks6436 or the deathstar is a mechanic failure and wouldn't move anywhere in the universe
dumb question the death star can destroy a whole planet xD
@@osmananwar9365 Yes, but can it destroy a US Carrier Battle Group? 😜🤣
My great uncle (grandfathers brother) was US Navy during Korea. I showed this to him and he laughed at first and rolled his eyes but then got into it bigtime! He thoroughly enjoyed it. He already asked me for another one when I go visit him. Thank you gentlemen!
The Hornets sound more like a TIE than a TIE lol
Okay this shit just went full Independence Day
On the serious side /usa is talking about ufos( = vehicles that have remarkable turning and acellaration unknown to man , have decided to buy more weapons to kill each other ,but no counter measures to defeat the alien or aliens that defy our air space everyWhere on the globe..=independence Day .
Something is wrong with this picture.all humans should stop fighting and assist each other in the world effort.
Independence day but its humans vs humans
@@AUS-q5f well ..not really .the pentagon confirmed for us that there are UFOs that are visiting us
for 30 years .So hard to believe so much spin that memories are shortened .Opportunity missed .and it was happening on the 4th of july 2021.
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They don't get it ,see ........
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anyway the opportunity is gone .....maybe forever .
To be fair, it's totally in-character for an Imperial leader like Moff or Admiral to just toy with their prey.
The full screen cap of the Tomcat passing by the Star Destroyer is now my screen wallpaper forever. the most amazing visual.
Agreed.
Only thing missing is a sh!t load of missiles coming from the 'cat heading to the star destroyer bridge. 😂
Can Thanos beat a US Carrier Group? Asking for a friend.
Only half of it
What stones does he have, if any?
No, because he can only wish away half it.
Not if you ask a 'murican..
A good question related to this: If each ship lost half its crew could they still make an effective fighting force?
"You don't see that everyday valued viewers."
Seeing that Star Destroyer looming on the horizon was beautiful.
18:11 absolutely love the enthusiasm during that strafing run 😂
Technically a Star Destroyer has to divert its main reactor power from the shields to the repulsorlifts (antigravity engines) when flying in atmosphere.
Doesn't need to does it ,tie fighters ,orbital bombardment
it doesnt need to divert any power it just needs to turn up power as shown in the twilight novel. its basically at max power
@@shaundavidssd
Surface vessels might nit be that easy to target from orbit. Its designed for terror, not precision.
I mean... if we're saying that the hull of an ISD is no stronger than anything we use on Earth here, we're lying to ourselves, just sayin...
@@springbloom5940 the isd can detect target 400k out on passive scanners..its can target a shoot down fights flying fast asf long distances also. I think they are fine
An Imperial-class Star Destroyer just needs to stay in high orbit and do a *_Base Delta Zero_* orbital bombardment... the carrier group wouldn't stand a chance.
I thought the complement of TIE Fighters was 72 for an ISD, not 48....
it is for an isd 2
I thought a base delta zero attack took more than one ISD
just like this there is no way any sm2 could reach it, they would have to attack them with nucear missiles which they would intercept... no chance
@@fattyMcGee97 yeah, but against an Earth military with no spacefaring navy, no shield technology, and no turbolasers (technically plasma cannons) a single ISD can do a Base Delta Zero bombardment with ease.
Also a stardestroyer have shields...
Oh my goodness, the commentary is fan-freaking-tastic! I feel like I'm hearing myself when I was a kid...and maybe as an adult with my kids. Great job guys!
Theres something so amusing about the HARPOON just circling for a bit then hitting the target. Love the bugs.
The Seawhiz sound effects had me wheezing 😂😂😂
That looks like the Harpoon fighting for altitude.
The missile knows where it is at all times...
@@CakePrincessCelestia Vader's just lookin out a window pointing at it and laughing while all his subordinates laugh with him nervously.
@@CakePrincessCelestia
The missile isn't sure where it is. But it is sure where it isnt.
The Star Destroyer needed to leave hyperspace closer to the battle. The admiral obviously didn’t read the AAR from the Battle of Hoth
"You do NOT shoot that green shit at me!"
Hadn’t even watch it yet, fell out of my chair laughing!!!
hahahahaha
Since you done star wars question is in the star trek show the damaged enterprise was trying to get back into orbit and an f-104 star fighter was sent to intercept got destroyed by the tractor beam can you recreate this maybe a few fighters going after the enterprise
Tomorrow is Yesterday. Season 1.
Would be awesome to see!
The sim Strike Fighters has pretty good F-104s, and there is even a user made mission where you had to intercept the Enterprise.
Load F14s and f 18s with bunker busters, drop from 30,000 feet. Do not engage tie fighters, let cwis and air defence missiles on destroyers deal with them.
i know why the harpoons went crazy: the star destroyer is classified as a ship, so they kept trying to go for the water under where the ship actually was
Of course not. When have imperial troopers ever hit anything smaller than a planet?
Eh, did you watched the first 5 minutes od a new hope?
When they were trying to miss.
When they are not under orders to miss their targets.
Stormtroopers were very well trained, they were told to _harass_ but not kill Leia’s rescue party because they needed them to take the tracker to Yavin 4
21:15 "Give 'em a faceful of American cheese." 🤣👍
Cheeses Kroßt!
I was thinking this could have come from Lord Sheogorath, ...
oops, wrong game.
That hole in the back of a tie fighter isn't the engine exhaust. It's a rear view window.
The engine exhausts are 2 red dots in either side of the hull.
Truly an amazing meme worthy video that made me laugh my ass off. However the major problem with this is that the SD would simply ascend to low orbit and then perform a Base Delta Zero. Which is an orbital bombardment that turns the targeted area into molten slag. Therefore the CSG would never even see the SD let alone hit the damn thing.
The best part of this video is Cap's sound effects
Reminded me of myself when I used to draw battle scenes...I’d make sound effects, cannon fire, machine guns, screams etc.
Awesome stuff!
Agreed lol
innit bruv
Bbbzzzzzzhhhhh
You need a Grim Reapers mission vs couple of Star Destroyers this time without mucking up the tie fighters. I wanna see what the tie fighters can do against chimpanzi pilots, ja?
Would be awesome
oh ja!!
They really need to flesh out the submarines. I think they would most likely be more successful than all these other scenerios.
Darth: “General Disarray, send a squad of stormtroopers down to this pitiful planet and bring me the Grim Reapers. I want their captain alive! No disintegrations! Their captain shall answer, personally, to this outrage!”
🤣
also: 14:25 with the F-14 and SD in the same frame....>nerdy awesome shudders
You know your the ultimate Geek when you have Star Wars against Carrier group in DCS!! Too fun
I think the reason the SD didn't attack until late, was because he arrived in DQ034, which is where the CV started from, but the CV had moved west out of range of DQ034. The attack was planned on DQ034 and not a specific ship or group of ships.
Tie fighters crashing into things is pretty much SOP for the Empire.
Cap you have started a whole new level of DCS.
12:00 Okay now he's just making weird noises lmao
Star Destroyer: "Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision."
Americans: "Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision."
Star Destroyer: "This is the Captain of an Imperial Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course."
Americans: "No. I say again, you divert YOUR course."
Star Destroyer: "This is the Imperial Star Destroyer ISS Darth Vader, the second largest ship in the Imperial's Atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three cruisers, three hundred TIE fighters, and a Death Star. I demand that YOU change your course 15 degrees north, that's one five degrees north, or countermeasures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship."
Americans: "This is a Spanish lighthouse. Your call."
Star Destroyer enters hyperspace.
Americans: 😎
lols
Suggested retitle: "Wetdream of an American: Can a Star Destroyer programmed to lose, beat a US Carrier Group?"
Habyush, habyush. Mouth farting noises.... best siundtrack ever. Someone should put this noises in a mod for ship gun sounds.
If this ever happened in real life, we'd be fucked. Really depends on what ship they're using. If it's an acclamator, then maybe we have a chance. But if it is something like the Imperial Class-1 or Imperial Class-2, we're really fucked. Especially if it's a fleet.
In reality, how it would actually happen.....
1 Imperial-Class star Destroyer appears
Klaxon alarm is heard on all decks.....
Troopers rush to battle stations
Nothing happens, no retaliation from enemy planet.......
Officer on deck: *Open fire*
orbital bombardment commences.
Entire US carrier fleet disappears in a flash of green explosions.
Mass panic as military installations turned into craters.
Message arrives from the ground: Earth has Capitulated.
The end.
''He's using some kind of stealth maneuver'' Lazily listing to the left no doubt 😂
Yes, an ISD fleet can casually wipe a US Carrier Group.
Even a single isd
As powerful as the u.s is. Some space people would win
@@Baconcatboy An ISD can glass the planet given enough time and the entire world would be powerless to stop it.
@@VictoryFireStudios A Victory could do it with its concussion missiles.
@@501ststormtrooper9 yea, also interdictor cruisers maybe with the gravity
The commentary you give is some of the best Ive heard. Love this stuff.
"Oh, you did not shoot that green shit at me!"
--F/A-18 pilot Capt. Steven Hiller, USMC
12:02 Best impression of Timmy from South Park i have heard in a while!!
In the words of M. Night Shyamalan: What a twist!
I'd like to point out that the engines on the TIES are not in that big hexagon thing on the back. That's actually a window.
On the Disney TIEs, its a window. On OG TIEs, its the reactor or fuel link depending on which resource you look at
A few details from a retired USN vet. The surface ships depicted can be maxed out with 64 Harpoons, which are not fired from VLS. There are 640 VLS launchable missiles, an assortment of SM2s and Tomahawks, not ASROCs or ESSMs between the DDGs and CGs. All of which can be fired upon the Star Destroyer. This doesn't include the additional 20 or so more Harpoon/Tomahawks that each of those subs can launcher either from it vertical launchers or its torpedo tubes. Harpoons can be programmed to fire down a bearing. SM2s are semi-homing meaning the ships lock onto the target. The FFGs use a single missile launcher with a beam riding SM1 missile. The carrier is also equipped with the surface to air version of the AMRAAM, aka, NATO Sea Sparrow. Given the size of the target and any and all the missiles can be fired it with very little probability of missing. Just the missiles I mentioned from only the ships (as opposed to the aircraft) can deliver at least 250,000 lbs of explosives to that Star Destroyer in less than 10 minutes. Then the guns between just the CGs and DDGs can deliver another 250,000 lbs of explosives once the star destroyer closes within 8 miles. CIWS is strictly a defensive weapon and was used incorrectly in this video. If you're going to lock onto with the CIWS you might as well use the 50 cals too. Even though there are 25mm cannons as well, they're meant for surface targets. Each of those ships, even the carrier, has at least a dozen 50s each it can bear down on that Star Destroyer with thousands of rounds.
The big question is, is a half a million pounds of explosives enough to rip this star destoyer out of the sky? If not, each tomahawk can be equipped a low yield, tactical nuclear warhead.
Unlike most commenters, I own a Star Destroyer, purchased directly from the spirit of Anakin Skywalker, who was downsizing. Some notes: 1) it is very large and heavy; 2) It doesn't make those great rumbling sounds from the movie because nobody has a 50 TW cyclotron to start the engines; 3) the alien paint is peeling in a disgusting way; 4) parking any mile-long vehicle is a challenge; and 5) it is quite the conversation piece. It could no doubt slay a carrier group, but as I told Crazy Chester, I'm a peaceful man.
Awesome! It would be cool to see the star destroyer against your WW2 battleship group, to see if those big guns could do any more damage.
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Civil planes in DCS: I sleep
Star Destroyer in DCS: *REAL SHIT*
This dude speaks another language when any fighter goes down
The most alien thing in this video are those harpoons lol. They are doing some out of this world moves.
Sit in space and fire lasers. Yeah, I'm fairly certain it could
This should be a piece of cake for the carrier group. Tie fighters rely on dogfighting, the US relies on missiles that can hit targets at least 25 miles away. Cruise missiles can hit targets thousands of miles away and any nuclear submarines in the carrier group will be able to launch nuclear ICBMs. If the star destroyer is in range of any of the carrier groups weapons than it's in trouble and TIE fighters are obsolete af compared to any US fighter post-Korean war
Edit: Also star wars ships shields are typically designed to protect against laser or plasma weapons. It seems like most shields offer no protection against physical objects like missiles
14:33 The pilot and co-pilot: "Oh what the fuck"
Can the Death Star beat a US Carrier group?
Can a Xenomorph queen beat a US Carrier group?
False equivalency. A single xenomorph is susceptible to small arms fire. A US carrier group would have way too much firepower no matter how you set up that scenario.
@@VunderGuy Not if its already on board...
The death star would beat not just the carrier group, but whole earth and satellites in orbit too
Valued viewer request: Can a US Carrier Group beat Goku?
Which goku db dbz or dbs
@ forget carrier group the entire worlds navys together cant
Best Cap's mouth sound FX ever
I don’t know what’s better a star destroyer going against the Americans
Or Cap having a seizure after a missile is fired
I'm prettybsure the ISD would have fired on the carrier even at that 70km range, but I definitely think jets have some chance against the TIEs, even if they're more maneuverable.
Cap, in case you didn't know TIE Fighters are NOT shielded.... TIE Interceptors and TIE Bombers can be retrofitted with shield generators, but TIE Fighters don't have them.
Now Darth Vader's TIE Advanced x1, the TIE Advanced v1, and the TIE Defender come with shields standard.
''The Tie fighters are hitting each other'' Accurate.
who needs Hollywood when we can have THIS!?
that was 10x more entertaining than Independence Day 2
The most interesting "death" of a US carrier was in Stargate. When a Hitak class mothership opens up on a US Carrier group, from orbit, 200 miles up... and in less then a minute the entire carrier group is gone except the subs. the Plasma blasts from orbit just obliterating ships.
TIE Fighter have top speed of only 1200 kph in atmosphere: equivalent to 746 mph or Mach 0.98 and no shielding. Top speed of F18 Hornet 1190mph. F 14 Tomcat 1550 mph twice speed of Tie Fighters with no shielding. Both F 14 and F 18 missiles and guns would be capable shooting them down. The Tie Fighters is an aerodynamic disaster, with a drag coefficient of 0.98, making it roughly as aerodynamic as a cube. Once again in scenarios such as this that Aircraft Carrier would have everything in Air protecting the most available asset Aircraft carrier but in your sim you always seem to put only half its air wing up. Now, Star destroyer does have shielding, the question is how much can it take being struck by missle coming from 4 destroyer 2 frigates 2 Cruiser plus submarines and F14 and F18. The Star Destroyer doesn't have large weapon system on bottom of ship.But it is capable of firing downward It's primarily weapons are along side and top of Star Destroyer sort of old school like 16th and 17th century War ships using broadside firing. The first ship to fire missiles would be from destroyers carrying 90 missiles each, frigates with their missiles and anti ship missiles penguins and hell fire missle by its and Cruiser they would have 60 missiles are carried for each of the two mk41 VLS. You don't show shielding of Star Destroyer nor its anti Fighters defense equivalent to Old World War II Style anti Aircraft stlye guns, the Star Destroyer called turbo lasers. You don't indicate which Star Destroyer that have different armament such turbo lasers ion cannons and missiles. All in all horrible video no research done at all. There is tons of source material on Starwars as well as US Nav and its tactics
More importantly, a Star Destroyer is capable of bombarding surface targets from orbit. Why would it go into the atmosphere, where it would be in range of aircraft and missiles, while the Star Destroyer and its complement of TIE fighters would suffer from poor aerodynamics?
As an analogy, Roman legionnaires were probably better at hand-to-hand combat than US marines. So, this is like the scenario of a Roman legion vs. a modern Marine brigade, but for some reason the Marines don't just shoot the Romans from a safe distance and instead decide to fight in a hand-to-hand melee.
It's simple, they went down into the atmosphere to avoid the Constitution class heavy cruiser...
I like it when Cap goes full goblin mode whenever SOMETHING fires
This raises the important question of nuke carrying MiG-21's vs a star destroyer
yup
Could a Belkan XB-0 gunship destroy an Osean, I mean, an US Carrier group?
Those Su-33s taking off from the Aigaion will surely give the hornets a headache.
Or maybe, thinking better, I'd like to see how does an Osean, I mean, an US carrier group will fare against two Erusean-hijacked Arsenal Birds?
Please take note that, after destroying the Arsenal Birds, the pilots will have to face high-end laser firing drone aircraft, fly through a tunnel chasing down the craft that managed to latch out from said drone, shot down said craft, and them fly upwards through the shaft from the local space elevator. The risk, besides sinking the carrier group, is launching a machine apocalypse.
Cap is the epitome of the perpetual 13 year old, I love it.
That Independence Day quote as the jet flew into the Star Destroyer’s belly was top notch 😆
TIE fighters do have shields. They are evident in the films. This stuff about them not having shields is fandom silliness; people forget the first three movies exist.
TIE Fighter fuel is not explicitly explained in the films, but the various extended fluff sources just says that it's contained in a pressurized fuel tank under the cockpit.
As far as ECM ability: I wouldn't be overly shocked, as the rebels never see them coming in the films.
This is an answer to a question I never knew I wanted to ask.
How about a couple of Battlestars with Colonial Vipers vs a US carrier group?
Colonial vipers vs f-16 vipers
14:33 "That is an amazing scene" Pilot looks over casually and decides he wants to fly home! HAHA
I love how he makes gun noises with his mouth XD
Next challenge: how can you kill a star destroyer fleet?
It's very challenging. The missile destroyers are fairly good because the harpoons distract the turbolasers and they don't directly shoot the ships
A shit ton of Mon Calamari classes lol
You don’t.
can the Millenium Falcon beat the fighting Falcon?
Almost certainly yes unless the F-16 pilot gets incredibly lucky.
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THIS… perhaps the most awesome “what if” scenario on UA-cam.
Ok, we need a Independence Day mission now. Make it happen. "WELCOME TO ERF"
As if a star destroyer would even enter atmosphere to punch out surface ships. One minute of Turbo laser barrage would have punched all the ships under. Good thing this is hypothetical eh?
No not really usually the submarines in that fleet carry trident missiles which have nuclear warheads
@@nonwhistlindiesel130 Tridents can't hit targets in orbit, they're designed specifically for land based targets.
@@666SkiBall icbm
@@nonwhistlindiesel130 Exactly, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, they use ballistic arcs to fall on the ground. Not hit targets in orbit.
@@666SkiBall the star destroyer isn’t in orbit
xD the harpoons dancing around made me chuckle
‘Oh no you do not shoot that green shit at me!’