Last year I was in a hurry to get the corn in the ground with tillage. This year I'm waiting to get more winter rye growth and warmer weather to plant into green standing rye. I didn't get the no-till drill I was hoping for so I'll need to strip-till -- got the planter set up so I need to get my strip unit around. Think I'm using two tractors rather than resetting everything on one tractor (I know something would get missed and I'd need to swap it back if on one) -- good thing I have multiple antique tractors and not just a single modern one.
I like the idea of placing fertilizer in the row verses broadcast. You place it where the plant roots don't have far to reach it. How do you like the big Furguson tractors?
Great accuracy with the strip till and fertiliser application. Makes a lot of sence being as fuel efficient as possible. Given all the input costs you need to make savings where you can. 👍
I know there are people happy with the chopping corn heads and in your case I can see a benefit. But in a no till situation i like to leave most of it standing. We have a 643 head with the fluted rolls, i planted rye into corn stalks last fall with the no till drill. Kind of cut it up like a vt tool. This spring I am really impressed at how the field looks.
. My old John Deere 843 had good knife rolls and I tried to leave a taller cutting height. But then the stalks would try to get ahold of every drive chain and harness it could. But then the stocks would still be hooked to the corn stump and there was all that uncut trash in between the rows. The trash whippers had to work very hard. No-till behind this head will be a dream I will have a couple acres to do We could go to The Other Extreme and dull the knife roll. So it almost looked like you went through the field with a stripper header. But everything was still Standing Tall. I bet that would be really nice to work in
I get with strip till you are leaving most of the soil undisturbed and that promotes soil health but to claim at the same time that it’s a great way to warm the soil and provide a nice seedbed they are also making the tillage farmers arguments...and how does all that square with the no till farmer that argues their way is superior from a soil health standpoint and besides, they get comparable yields as everyone else anyway? Just seems to be some contradicting messaging. Great channel Jon, as always very educational and thought provoking.
It is interesting because even following fall anhydrous in an otherwise no-till system for corn we see a difference in the "strip" vs outside of the strip for emergence and early development. Now obviously once roots intercept the N a little sooner, there's an obvious growth difference that persists for a while. But this year, new planter, with row cleaners taking the majority of residue to the side in a 6in strip (where erosion concerns allow) we see the same kind of emergence advantage. It appears to my eye to be down to residue and residue interaction with the soil as the most obvious driver?
We could argue that no-till with no cover crops and still using full rate of chemicals and fertilizers is not building a whole lot of soil health. We could probably seen organic farmer using more tillage 2/2 oil just as healthy as the no-till guy Suppose a wonderful transition to all and I'm I think we'll just have a fun video with this topic
Ehh... we all gotta do somthing with last year's Corn stubble! I guess strip till is the best bad option for ya? that looks wet, I dunno about pulling a shank thru the soil in the spring??? Never liked pulling a shank period, let alone in spring. I'll give you top 5 early adopters of soil health principals! Lol which is still pretty good, I'm planting green into 2 ft tall cover crops down here in SE Neb, all no till... with the exception, yes I did disk my corn stubble from 2022, yields were high and had to do somthing, so I dunno anymore than you. Good luck, never get in a hurry in the spring. Edit: some of my best yeilds came from June planted corn I kid you not.
Strip till always out performs no till and full till here, better nutrient management than I can do vs no till. Not worried about smearing in the spring, soil.is not that wet, if I strip in the fall I risk erosion and the strip getting hard..
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I suppose it does up north... maybe I'm just used to looking at droughted out dry soil so my soil moisture sensor is skewed so far this year! Lol. We need some rain down here!!!
@@growthefarmup2606 I hope you get some timely rain. I am not trying to warm and dry the soil with this strip-till I am using it as a transition tool to build the field up to where it can handle no till. We can throw some amazing crops in our area but you cannot really make a mistake because there isn't much season to recover
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 yep, the transition from conventional to cover crops is a multi year process that combines some conventional farming practices and regenerative. I'm not anti tillage, heck I just disked my Corn stubble last fall, you gotta do somthing on old corn ground. I'm sure strip till is better than my fall disking. I take your point about fall tillage and erosion, I think we're just in different worlds. We're arid west with heat units, so I see any spring tillage as a waste of moisture, but other areas are totally different. Also the cover crop overwinter stand factors alot into how you farm it. I tried strip till for 3 yrs and never made it work for me, that shank just didn't work in cover crops and would just leave a 4 inch deep dust seed bed, then we fire the pivots up! With no till at least I'm holding on to some moisture 2 in deep. Good luck in 2023 and look fwd seeing how both our crops progress. Thanks Jon!
@@growthefarmup2606 I don't think we know what really dried is up here. Our soil just gets so water repellent Under full tillage that guy's create their own trout problems. Work the ground then the fall and a couple times in the spring and then wonder why you have a drought situation after you had 20 inches of rain in the previous couple months
Enjoy watching you do your thing sir. Dumb question, but will you go back and just no-till all your seed in later? Do you put in the same trench or do you go cross ways? God Bless
@Farming 4G if I what's going to drill behind corn I would go at an angle. We will have to remember that if I drill wheat into a field that was stripped killed last year to see if we see green streaks
Last year I was in a hurry to get the corn in the ground with tillage. This year I'm waiting to get more winter rye growth and warmer weather to plant into green standing rye. I didn't get the no-till drill I was hoping for so I'll need to strip-till -- got the planter set up so I need to get my strip unit around. Think I'm using two tractors rather than resetting everything on one tractor (I know something would get missed and I'd need to swap it back if on one) -- good thing I have multiple antique tractors and not just a single modern one.
Give her heck and good luck
It's hard to take your time and do it right when you feel like you're getting behind
Very informative. Good job
Thank you
I like the idea of placing fertilizer in the row verses broadcast. You place it where the plant roots don't have far to reach it. How do you like the big Furguson tractors?
Easiest to drive most fuel efficient tractor ever made! So very productive!
I need to do a 1500 hr review.
We do the same thing here for the past 6 years in central SD. Seeing more and more benefits every year. Nice work.
Thanks,
What towns of SD?
Dry country?
Great accuracy with the strip till and fertiliser application. Makes a lot of sence being as fuel efficient as possible. Given all the input costs you need to make savings where you can. 👍
Glad you’re able to get going up there well the naysayers have to wait and watch lol.
Some of them are paying attention most of them don't even realize it
I know there are people happy with the chopping corn heads and in your case I can see a benefit. But in a no till situation i like to leave most of it standing. We have a 643 head with the fluted rolls, i planted rye into corn stalks last fall with the no till drill. Kind of cut it up like a vt tool. This spring I am really impressed at how the field looks.
. My old John Deere 843 had good knife rolls and I tried to leave a taller cutting height. But then the stalks would try to get ahold of every drive chain and harness it could. But then the stocks would still be hooked to the corn stump and there was all that uncut trash in between the rows. The trash whippers had to work very hard. No-till behind this head will be a dream I will have a couple acres to do
We could go to The Other Extreme and dull the knife roll. So it almost looked like you went through the field with a stripper header. But everything was still Standing Tall. I bet that would be really nice to work in
Gives the ground a chance to dry out and warm up. I think strip till is the best option in some soils.
I love the description less of a disaster every year fantastic best of luck
I get with strip till you are leaving most of the soil undisturbed and that promotes soil health but to claim at the same time that it’s a great way to warm the soil and provide a nice seedbed they are also making the tillage farmers arguments...and how does all that square with the no till farmer that argues their way is superior from a soil health standpoint and besides, they get comparable yields as everyone else anyway? Just seems to be some contradicting messaging. Great channel Jon, as always very educational and thought provoking.
Agreed
It is interesting because even following fall anhydrous in an otherwise no-till system for corn we see a difference in the "strip" vs outside of the strip for emergence and early development. Now obviously once roots intercept the N a little sooner, there's an obvious growth difference that persists for a while. But this year, new planter, with row cleaners taking the majority of residue to the side in a 6in strip (where erosion concerns allow) we see the same kind of emergence advantage. It appears to my eye to be down to residue and residue interaction with the soil as the most obvious driver?
Great conversation. I hope I have never said to warm and dry my seed bed.
We could argue that no-till with no cover crops and still using full rate of chemicals and fertilizers is not building a whole lot of soil health. We could probably seen organic farmer using more tillage 2/2 oil just as healthy as the no-till guy
Suppose a wonderful transition to all and I'm I think we'll just have a fun video with this topic
That strip till rig works nice.
Sunday evening here north of new ulm and we’re at 3.5 inches for the weekend. Be a few days before we get going again.
Really? Wow. If we got an inch I would be back out pretty quickly, amazing how this soil can handle water now.
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Guy I delivered to Friday by Hanska was at 7 inches Friday from the last few storms.
@@olepedersen2795 holy crap.
Ehh... we all gotta do somthing with last year's Corn stubble! I guess strip till is the best bad option for ya? that looks wet, I dunno about pulling a shank thru the soil in the spring??? Never liked pulling a shank period, let alone in spring. I'll give you top 5 early adopters of soil health principals! Lol which is still pretty good, I'm planting green into 2 ft tall cover crops down here in SE Neb, all no till... with the exception, yes I did disk my corn stubble from 2022, yields were high and had to do somthing, so I dunno anymore than you. Good luck, never get in a hurry in the spring.
Edit: some of my best yeilds came from June planted corn I kid you not.
Strip till always out performs no till and full till here, better nutrient management than I can do vs no till.
Not worried about smearing in the spring, soil.is not that wet, if I strip in the fall I risk erosion and the strip getting hard..
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I suppose it does up north... maybe I'm just used to looking at droughted out dry soil so my soil moisture sensor is skewed so far this year! Lol. We need some rain down here!!!
@@growthefarmup2606 I hope you get some timely rain. I am not trying to warm and dry the soil with this strip-till I am using it as a transition tool to build the field up to where it can handle no till.
We can throw some amazing crops in our area but you cannot really make a mistake because there isn't much season to recover
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 yep, the transition from conventional to cover crops is a multi year process that combines some conventional farming practices and regenerative. I'm not anti tillage, heck I just disked my Corn stubble last fall, you gotta do somthing on old corn ground. I'm sure strip till is better than my fall disking. I take your point about fall tillage and erosion, I think we're just in different worlds. We're arid west with heat units, so I see any spring tillage as a waste of moisture, but other areas are totally different. Also the cover crop overwinter stand factors alot into how you farm it. I tried strip till for 3 yrs and never made it work for me, that shank just didn't work in cover crops and would just leave a 4 inch deep dust seed bed, then we fire the pivots up! With no till at least I'm holding on to some moisture 2 in deep. Good luck in 2023 and look fwd seeing how both our crops progress. Thanks Jon!
@@growthefarmup2606 I don't think we know what really dried is up here. Our soil just gets so water repellent Under full tillage that guy's create their own trout problems. Work the ground then the fall and a couple times in the spring and then wonder why you have a drought situation after you had 20 inches of rain in the previous couple months
Great video man
Thanks.
You get to try yours yet?!
I've seen it before ofcourse, but it's a nice rig.
The guy who's name we shall not mention, is planting already. How long before you can?
I could have put seed in the ground a couple weeks ago, forecast was to cold.
Hoping to be planting next week, have a lot of shop work to do.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Time for some staff Jon 😅
Where's you home built Hiniker strip tiller?
I sold that. A guy from North Central Minnesota bought it and last I heard he was still enjoying it
Enjoy watching you do your thing sir. Dumb question, but will you go back and just no-till all your seed in later? Do you put in the same trench or do you go cross ways? God Bless
Normally I like to move my pass over 15 inches from last year. But still go the same direction.
Yep then plant right on top of these strips
Raises a good question about drilling small grains after strip tilling... strip till at an angle in the field so the drill crosses better?
@Farming 4G if I what's going to drill behind corn I would go at an angle. We will have to remember that if I drill wheat into a field that was stripped killed last year to see if we see green streaks
Looks like it's working. Now fill it up and let it rip.
Trying!
Work the shop in the day, farm in the afternoon!
Did u get the wife’s tractor done?
Ha no, she is a little worried, in 2 weeks we start hay, it's still in many pieces