I just ordered myself a Spyderco Manix2 LW with REX45 steel blade. I’m excited about my purchase, but I am truly excited about the clear scales conversion that you just completed on camera. Well done!!
Thanks for the video, especially that advice of taking only one scale off at a time. 12:50 I actually REALLY like how it looks with 1 clear scale, those skeletonized liners and G10 handle from inside look great imo (my pivot screw is T10)
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Thanks for the shoutout and the video! Keeping one side of the frame attached looks easier than what I was doing so this will save me a little time in the future.
@@IndianaKnives Eric. Tell him that the screw holes aren't countersunk, and you can't use the stock countersunk (flat head) screws? The holes are counter bored, with a flat bottom.
Thanks for the video! I like the clear scales. The idea of it getting scratched up sounds great. It will give the knife character and history. I appreciate the video.
Wow these are cool. I’d like to see what they look like all scratched up after being carried for a year or so. And how well the lexan holds up it’s supposed to be some tough stuff.
I'm guessing the reason for the replacement screw set is the counter sunk holes stock are beveled where the bottom face meets the g-10, and the replacement screws and the counter sunk holes in plexi glass are counter sunk with flat bases at the bottom of the counter sinking. Can't see for sure but that would make sense. As far as the clip and not flushing on the rear of the knife, it looks like you could use a longer screw in the center of the three holds and screw right across the gap into the other sides pressed in insert without interfering with the blade. Possibly all three screws, but for sure the middle one. Hopefully I didn't make all this sound to confusing. My thoughts don't always type out the way they speak in my head lol :)
Thanks for the show & tell, LTK. Well done! All finished up, but you forgot to tell us what it weighs! : - ) . . . . 3.0oz. I love the looks of these. I put them on one of my Blurple S110V knives too. Cuz, I hate Blurple! : - ) . . . Sorry Eric Glesser, if you happen by my thread here. I had the very same issue that you did, at the 16:22 mark in the video. Just one scale side, was a tiny bit tighter for the pivot bushing, than the other side. My lanyard holes did fit perfectly though, and snapped right into position. The lanyard tube can be flared back out a little bit, after assembly. To get the scales to grab the tube better, again. I use a couple of ball bearings. About 5/16" in size. Placing one on each side, and then give it a light squeeze, or a tap with a hammer. On a very solid, non-bouncing surface. I use a small arbor press. As soon as I have a chance. I'm going to add a Ti backspacer. Trying that, for awhile. I use a plastic Bondo spreader, to separate my scales from the liners. It takes time of course. I spin the scales onto one or two of them. They have a taper, and go from about 1/32" on the narrow end, to about 0.1875" on the thick end. They make for a nice soft wedge, and work pretty darn good. Plus, no scratching possible, that way.
Just did mine and love it. Only issue I have with your builds is not using the provided button head screws, because the Lexan counterbore is meant for shouldered screws that he provided, not the countersunk screws that the stock scales are bored for. You're sacrificing some reliability for looks by having less physical contact with each screw head. But I get it.... it's kind of novelty anyway since I'm so careful not to scratch it. :D
You can remove scratches with Polywatch. Better: put a film of liquid glass for smartphone screens to protect before changing the scales. Tip for the spacer: transperent Loctite Threadlocker 'cause it's removable.
I got it now, the sheet with the $229 price was for a Manix with the clear scales assembled, I would say to go the route you did and pay $69 for the scales and $85 or what ever a Manix cost you, about $80 ahead of the game and that way we get to see this entertaining video. I had read where they lock tight their knives but now I know that's not an issue. Thanks!
woptucci the $229 price includes the S110V Manix which runs $159.24. So it is really on like a $5 premium to get it preassembled. I also do a standard S30V version with the conversion scales installed for $189 total.
You didn't "get it at all" "85$ or whatever uou pay for a manix". You clearly have no idea what your talking about. Stick to the skittles tiedye shirt videos.
the way I separate the scales from the tankard tube is I go out the yard find a piece of wood and taper it into a wedge shape and get another piece of wood slightly smaller than the backspacer then while wedging the scales apart put my square piece of wood in and turn one way or the other and they separate no problem
Yeah you can get those back to perfectly clear again if they get scratched. Just gotta know how to cut, buff and polish. UA-cam University has thousands of vids on polishing!
These are so popular that I hope spyderco does a run hehe. There are plastic polishing compound. Called Poli something. People use for watches. I think if they had some channels for tritium. Wooo that would be amazing Maybe a little clear nail polish on the lanyard tube. Let it dry and just press fit later. Nail polish is reversible I think some hi light marker on the edge could change the look of the clear scales.
if you don't need the lanyard hole, you might be able to use a chicago screw to clamp the scales flat and you can still use the cylinder to tie a lanyard if need be.
Super cool maybe to keep the back together you could use really long pocket clip screws so it would go all the way through both sides of the pocket clip screw holes to keep it together
Since you do have inserts on the opposite side of the pocket clip scale you can acquire longer screws to screw into the oposite scale to bring them together for a tighter fit!😉
Seems almost like a flaw in the original design. I think Spyderco should have been a little easier on the tolerances on the lanyard hole and added a standoff (with screws) just forward of the lanyard hole on the handle. That way taking the knife apart for maintenance or in this case, a change in the scales, would be easier, plus the knife would be more secure and I think it would look better as well. Either that or perhaps make the back pocket clip screw go all the way through so it tightens the back of the knife... Either way would work in my .02... Thinking further on this mod, maybe compensating for the play in the back of the knife is the reason for including the bigger screws provided in the mod kit???
One is Skil brand. The yellow is a no name. I just happened on them while the wife was shopping and I went over to the clearance rack in the Ross Dress for Less store. No magic. Any 1/4 inch bit driver will do. Lol 👍
C'mon LTK! I couldn't survive as a knife enthusiast without my set of plastic pry bars. I use them every time I disassemble a knife. I have a much bigger set that I also use for my vehicles trim, indoor and out, but you can get a minimal set on Amazon for $6.
I saw those scales a few weeks ago or so i think. I thought it was pretty cool but I agree on the novelty of it. Scratches and smears and smidges tend to bother me. I would be repolishing it every other day.
$65? I paid $85 for the translucent blue Manix and really enjoy it, very grippy, next time hold off and I'll send you some micro fiber cloths, gratis. I think I would buy a 2nd knife for the $ output on the scales but it is a interesting look. Carry On! Ya and the wear and tear will show for sure but can be buffed out. I still like your demo always valuable.and good stuff.
If it's the manix light weight this swap won't work. Unless you grind out the pins and replace them with screws and get a back spacer ring for the back end.
Stop at your local 'screw' store, when you have a chance @@LuvThemKnives. See if they have a #2-56 x 0.50". That should do it. Only one would be needed, and you'll want it in the middle position. So the blade tip, won't touch the screw. I should have some around here, somewhere. But haven't found them yet. I'm still digging around though. I'll report back. If/when I find them, and you don't find any locally. I'll ship some to you.
What should have been included were some long screws for the pocket clip that reach the other side of the pocket clip spot to hold it together at the back
A neat look but super impractical , I could see having a collection with these scales just set in a shadow box because I certainly would not use them but the look is undeniable , I guess if I had two of every knife I own that I think would deserve to be showcased with these scales I'd do it and just hang then up to show and tell lol.
This was a great thinking outside the box video it makes me wonder though could there be somebody out there that can make tungsten steel scales food for thought
How did no one see that those holes in the scales aren't countersunk? They're counter bored with STRAIGHT side walls, not beveled. That's the whole reason he gave you pan head screws.
Love the idea for someone like me who collects but not for edc. I think that they would scratch up way to easily. This is only my opinion, which is often worth 💩 and🤘😊🤘
@@LuvThemKnives @LuvThemKnives those screw holes in the scales aren't "countersunk." They are counter bored. They have straight side walls. Putting those countersunk screws back in are part of your problems. That's why he gave you pan head screws. How could you not see that? Would you realize that countersunk screws (flat head) won't work in the same holes as a pan head screw? Would you think, "huh, why did he give me pan head screws?"
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@@LuvThemKnives Yes, this is my old design. It is almost 100% identical with my original design. Cheap modification has been greatly simplified during production.
Easiest conversion but not something I'd trust. Karbadize must have reached out to you for this. Tell them to offer one or two long pocket clip screws to hold the bottom end together without hitting the blade, otherwise, sorry THUMBS DOWN! AND NOT COOL!
Average Joe Indiana Knives absolutely never contacted me. Another viewer sent me a link to their website showing the scales. I contacted Karbadize on his instagram. Like I said in the video. The scales are a novelty. Like I said in the video.
Screws won't go all the way through as threads go different ways. You could do it if you reversed the inserts on one side but then you'd only be able to fit the pocket clip on one side. So maybe they could offer a left or ride sided mounted clip version but probably too much hassles.
@@MrIliff nope. No matter which way the insert is orientated, the helix of the thread is going the same way. Do you have to turn nuts around to get them to fit on to a bolt? LOL. A right hand thread, is a right hand thread and the screw will go on from either side.
I just ordered myself a Spyderco Manix2 LW with REX45 steel blade. I’m excited about my purchase, but I am truly excited about the clear scales conversion that you just completed on camera. Well done!!
Wow those are super cool looking I’m very Impressed! I think the clear with a smoke design flowing through it would be sick too!
Thanks for the video, especially that advice of taking only one scale off at a time.
12:50 I actually REALLY like how it looks with 1 clear scale, those skeletonized liners and G10 handle from inside look great imo
(my pivot screw is T10)
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Thanks for the shoutout and the video! Keeping one side of the frame attached looks easier than what I was doing so this will save me a little time in the future.
Indiana Knives Glad you liked it. Thanks
Longer pocket clip screw in top hole will pull the scales together
Use polywatch to polish the scales. Just with a piece of cloth. Its the beat way to hold it nice.
@@IndianaKnives Eric. Tell him that the screw holes aren't countersunk, and you can't use the stock countersunk (flat head) screws? The holes are counter bored, with a flat bottom.
Thanks for the video! I like the clear scales. The idea of it getting scratched up sounds great. It will give the knife character and history. I appreciate the video.
Very clean looking. Id bet the headlight restore kits would do well depending on how deep the scratches are. Wet sand and polish if they are deeper.
Great video Lee! I love the looks of these and I'm not usually one for the loud gold plated and purple stuff...lol. Thanks for taking us along.
Wow these are cool. I’d like to see what they look like all scratched up after being carried for a year or so. And how well the lexan holds up it’s supposed to be some tough stuff.
I'm guessing the reason for the replacement screw set is the counter sunk holes stock are beveled where the bottom face meets the g-10, and the replacement screws and the counter sunk holes in plexi glass are counter sunk with flat bases at the bottom of the counter sinking. Can't see for sure but that would make sense. As far as the clip and not flushing on the rear of the knife, it looks like you could use a longer screw in the center of the three holds and screw right across the gap into the other sides pressed in insert without interfering with the blade. Possibly all three screws, but for sure the middle one. Hopefully I didn't make all this sound to confusing. My thoughts don't always type out the way they speak in my head lol :)
Wish Spyderco release linerless version like this. Easier to maintain. I love this clear scales
Thanks for the show & tell, LTK. Well done!
All finished up, but you forgot to tell us what it weighs!
: - ) . . . . 3.0oz.
I love the looks of these.
I put them on one of my Blurple S110V knives too. Cuz, I hate Blurple!
: - ) . . . Sorry Eric Glesser, if you happen by my thread here.
I had the very same issue that you did, at the 16:22 mark in the video. Just one scale side, was a tiny bit tighter for the pivot bushing, than the other side.
My lanyard holes did fit perfectly though, and snapped right into position. The lanyard tube can be flared back out a little bit, after assembly. To get the scales to grab the tube better, again. I use a couple of ball bearings. About 5/16" in size. Placing one on each side, and then give it a light squeeze, or a tap with a hammer. On a very solid, non-bouncing surface. I use a small arbor press.
As soon as I have a chance. I'm going to add a Ti backspacer. Trying that, for awhile.
I use a plastic Bondo spreader, to separate my scales from the liners. It takes time of course. I spin the scales onto one or two of them. They have a taper, and go from about 1/32" on the narrow end, to about 0.1875" on the thick end. They make for a nice soft wedge, and work pretty darn good. Plus, no scratching possible, that way.
Very cool! How’s the grip on those? I work in the Shabazz Vaseline factory 😅
Just did mine and love it. Only issue I have with your builds is not using the provided button head screws, because the Lexan counterbore is meant for shouldered screws that he provided, not the countersunk screws that the stock scales are bored for. You're sacrificing some reliability for looks by having less physical contact with each screw head. But I get it.... it's kind of novelty anyway since I'm so careful not to scratch it. :D
You can remove scratches with Polywatch. Better: put a film of liquid glass for smartphone screens to protect before changing the scales. Tip for the spacer: transperent Loctite Threadlocker 'cause it's removable.
I got it now, the sheet with the $229 price was for a Manix with the clear scales assembled, I would say to go the route you did and pay $69 for the scales and $85 or what ever a Manix cost you, about $80 ahead of the game and that way we get to see this entertaining video. I had read where they lock tight their knives but now I know that's not an issue. Thanks!
woptucci the $229 price includes the S110V Manix which runs $159.24. So it is really on like a $5 premium to get it preassembled. I also do a standard S30V version with the conversion scales installed for $189 total.
@@IndianaKnives Yea, If you read my comment you will see I got it, a little slow on the uptake
@@jtucci5711 nah. You didn't "get it." You said he's $80 ahead of the game, which he's not
You didn't "get it at all"
"85$ or whatever uou pay for a manix". You clearly have no idea what your talking about.
Stick to the skittles tiedye shirt videos.
the way I separate the scales from the tankard tube is I go out the yard find a piece of wood and taper it into a wedge shape and get another piece of wood slightly smaller than the backspacer then while wedging the scales apart put my square piece of wood in and turn one way or the other and they separate no problem
Makes the knife very cool looking, enjoyed watching. Good job!
I think just the one clear side looks really cool. You can see the liner and everything
Yeah you can get those back to perfectly clear again if they get scratched. Just gotta know how to cut, buff and polish. UA-cam University has thousands of vids on polishing!
This is really cool! I've never seen a transparent scale before. Thanks LTK!
Luv that new opening. Just awesome!
THAT is THE MOST Beautiful KNIFE in the WORLD
That's a beautiful knife... 😳
Nice job.
Can I use it on my light weight manix 2 gray scale?
These are so popular that I hope spyderco does a run hehe.
There are plastic polishing compound. Called Poli something. People use for watches.
I think if they had some channels for tritium. Wooo that would be amazing
Maybe a little clear nail polish on the lanyard tube. Let it dry and just press fit later. Nail polish is reversible
I think some hi light marker on the edge could change the look of the clear scales.
Wonder if they are still around. I think they look awesome
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if you don't need the lanyard hole, you might be able to use a chicago screw to clamp the scales flat and you can still use the cylinder to tie a lanyard if need be.
Super cool scales. I like them.
Wow amazing design knife!!!
Super cool maybe to keep the back together you could use really long pocket clip screws so it would go all the way through both sides of the pocket clip screw holes to keep it together
Cool looking , but my OCD would drive me nuts with scratches. Lexan scratches very easily.
Clear Scales on a Manix, are you kidding me that’s awesome!!!!
Semper Fidelis
Those clear scales look awesome!!!
Since you do have inserts on the opposite side of the pocket clip scale you can acquire longer screws to screw into the oposite scale to bring them together for a tighter fit!😉
That is assuming the thread is oriented the same way the screw came out
Great idea
I think those look awesome!! He’s gotta figure out something with that bottom spacer tho, if he gets that figured out, those would be perfect
Seems almost like a flaw in the original design. I think Spyderco should have been a little easier on the tolerances on the lanyard hole and added a standoff (with screws) just forward of the lanyard hole on the handle. That way taking the knife apart for maintenance or in this case, a change in the scales, would be easier, plus the knife would be more secure and I think it would look better as well. Either that or perhaps make the back pocket clip screw go all the way through so it tightens the back of the knife... Either way would work in my .02... Thinking further on this mod, maybe compensating for the play in the back of the knife is the reason for including the bigger screws provided in the mod kit???
If you use a tapered steel rod, or a hoop mandrel you may be able to restore that swedge on the lanyard tube; that's what I did.
Very informative. What are brands of your two bit drivers? Thanks!
The brand is Wiha. You can buy them at KC Tool online.
@@LuvThemKnives Thanks for getting back. I think I messed up on my.terms, meant the screwdriver handles.
One is Skil brand. The yellow is a no name. I just happened on them while the wife was shopping and I went over to the clearance rack in the Ross Dress for Less store. No magic. Any 1/4 inch bit driver will do. Lol 👍
@@LuvThemKnives Thanks again!
C'mon LTK! I couldn't survive as a knife enthusiast without my set of plastic pry bars. I use them every time I disassemble a knife. I have a much bigger set that I also use for my vehicles trim, indoor and out, but you can get a minimal set on Amazon for $6.
Where can I find these scales for the Spyderco Manix 2 XL?
K. NightRaven M I guess you need to contact him through his Instagram
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I saw those scales a few weeks ago or so i think. I thought it was pretty cool but I agree on the novelty of it. Scratches and smears and smidges tend to bother me. I would be repolishing it every other day.
Think this would work with a lightweight?
$65? I paid $85 for the translucent blue Manix and really enjoy it, very grippy, next time hold off and I'll send you some micro fiber cloths, gratis. I think I would buy a 2nd knife for the $ output on the scales but it is a interesting look. Carry On! Ya and the wear and tear will show for sure but can be buffed out. I still like your demo always valuable.and good stuff.
woptucci Thanks !!
If it's the manix light weight this swap won't work. Unless you grind out the pins and replace them with screws and get a back spacer ring for the back end.
LTK, bloody cool stuff. Top vid
The pivot screw is T-10, not T-9. These Karbadize scales are cool. I bought a set and don't even have a Manix 2 yet lol
Looks super cool. That purple was hideous. Nice looking Knife now 👌👍
You may use a longer screw for the clip, through the clip hole to screw to the other side. I solved my problem that way.
Great idea!
AFDD2-1.6 That is a great idea. Thanks. Now I just need to get that length of screws. Where did you get yours ?
Please describe the screws you used and where you bought them from.
Stop at your local 'screw' store, when you have a chance @@LuvThemKnives. See if they have a #2-56 x 0.50". That should do it. Only one would be needed, and you'll want it in the middle position. So the blade tip, won't touch the screw.
I should have some around here, somewhere. But haven't found them yet. I'm still digging around though. I'll report back.
If/when I find them, and you don't find any locally. I'll ship some to you.
Steve Kluver Thanks for the information.
wow how frickin cool is this!? bad ass for sure
What should have been included were some long screws for the pocket clip that reach the other side of the pocket clip spot to hold it together at the back
A neat look but super impractical , I could see having a collection with these scales just set in a shadow box because I certainly would not use them but the look is undeniable , I guess if I had two of every knife I own that I think would deserve to be showcased with these scales I'd do it and just hang then up to show and tell lol.
I wish they made Karbadize Clear Scales for Spyderco Manix 2 XL
This was a great thinking outside the box video it makes me wonder though could there be somebody out there that can make tungsten steel scales food for thought
Very nice great job on video
Very cool scales. They’re beautiful. I’d be scared of getting scratches on them. They’d probably be worse than snail trails on titanium.
its shame the pocket clip screw inserts aren't all the way tapped if so you could run longer pocket clip screws through one side into the other
a lanyard snugged up tightly would help hold the scales together back there too
How did no one see that those holes in the scales aren't countersunk? They're counter bored with STRAIGHT side walls, not beveled. That's the whole reason he gave you pan head screws.
Just put a tight lanyard on, should hold that area together, while still being reversible.
I love it, El Tique, and I'm not a Spiderco fan at all, don't own one, never wanted to.
But You've got me thinkin' though.
Should cut out and apply some screen protectors for a phone/tablet to keep the scales looking clean lol
Not a bad idea !!
Very cool looking
Love the idea for someone like me who collects but not for edc. I think that they would scratch up way to easily. This is only my opinion, which is often worth 💩 and🤘😊🤘
I personally don’t like see through scales but can see the advantage
What are those scales, Lucite?
Lexan
Lexan. That’s a purty name!
Man...It's painful just watching you manhandle that Manix for a scale swap, however, you are entertaining and seem to be having fun!
I’m a bit of a primitive Pete with those scales. I guess it worked tho... lol
@@LuvThemKnives @LuvThemKnives those screw holes in the scales aren't "countersunk." They are counter bored. They have straight side walls. Putting those countersunk screws back in are part of your problems. That's why he gave you pan head screws. How could you not see that? Would you realize that countersunk screws (flat head) won't work in the same holes as a pan head screw? Would you think, "huh, why did he give me pan head screws?"
That is cool!
Sweet!
Cool knife, cool review. Hi Lee.
ivar kobalt Hello Ivan. Good to hear from you. When am I going to get that Kizer Odin or Real Steel Lynx ? They both look great 👍
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ivar kobalt Is that new M390 fixed blade your design as well ?
@@LuvThemKnives Yes, this is my old design. It is almost 100% identical with my original design. Cheap modification has been greatly simplified during production.
Holy shit balls that looks amazing! I have a Manix2 😁😁😁
Those are fucking cool
This is so cool
You can get a buffing wheel for a drill
I bet ya those don't look that nice for long! I forsee lots of harline scratches... They sure look cool when fresh though!
Use s EDC pry bar with a microfiber cloth so you don't scratch. Lol
you can polish it with toothpaste too :)
Sucks they changed the thumb studs to black. Clear would match the clear handle
U aint buffing scratches outta that... sorry homies
I would have left the steel liners
Why would you do this
Looks nice but, I'll pass!! ✋
Too Expensive
If anyone has got a pair of scales for tenacious please let me know
@Richard Davis only paid $10 for it but I'm not wanting to spend like $40 on a pair of scales
horrible. looks like a toy instead of a working knife.
Easiest conversion but not something I'd trust. Karbadize must have reached out to you for this. Tell them to offer one or two long pocket clip screws to hold the bottom end together without hitting the blade, otherwise, sorry THUMBS DOWN! AND NOT COOL!
Average Joe Indiana Knives absolutely never contacted me. Another viewer sent me a link to their website showing the scales. I contacted Karbadize on his instagram. Like I said in the video. The scales are a novelty. Like I said in the video.
Screws won't go all the way through as threads go different ways. You could do it if you reversed the inserts on one side but then you'd only be able to fit the pocket clip on one side. So maybe they could offer a left or ride sided mounted clip version but probably too much hassles.
Use a role pin flare tool or brake line flare tool to re-flare the back to make it tight
@@MrIliff nope. No matter which way the insert is orientated, the helix of the thread is going the same way. Do you have to turn nuts around to get them to fit on to a bolt? LOL. A right hand thread, is a right hand thread and the screw will go on from either side.
@@littlejackalo5326 yes you're correct haha not sure what I was thinking..
The scales make the aestetics rather clear badumtss.
Very very interesting look I gotta say it definitely makes a beautiful piece especially for a display piece not to mention a edc number.🫵😘👍