Story wise what intrigued me about chapter one of MHA is what the I thought the story was going to be about, a story about a quirkless kid in a world of super heroes being trained by the worlds greatest hero, honestly I was really really looking forward to a story like that but then Deku got a quirk by the next chapter and although there are characters and storylines I liked, but as a whole I wasn’t the biggest fan of MHA I dropped it at season 5 when Deku unlocked a second quirk I immediately left. I’m aware how the story played out by my friends but in my opinion the story could have been a lot better.
Thats interesting, but one mistake he made in the video, the show itself is actually well loved, compelling, and well written, its just the fanbase that ended up ruining its reputation causing people to hate it.
Currently writing a story around two opposing tragic heroes: one an antihero whose flaw is being so caught up in trying to improve and save the world that she misses and tears apart her relationship with her brother, a fallen hero being exploited by the very power structure his sister is trying to diamantle
Love this video! I struggle with the complexity of characters within stories especially when I feel like I want to write my own. Thank you for breaking everything down in a clear and informative way. Best to you, Professor Axel XD and hope you are doing well doing whatever creative projects you are engaging in next.
5:55 thats exactly what makes him such a good main character for demon slayer. Bassically think of him as the jesus of that universe, the world around him is dark with weak willed people constantly going down the wrong path trying to survive, (by path I mean what lead to them becoming a demon, and what they did as a demon.) but in the end they find healing from this one person who represents hope, and in the end doesn't hate them for chosing that path, even if its by choice or not, and is only disappointed and sad for them. In a way, when he kills them, its bassically freeing them from that path, and healing them mentally, before they begin life again.
I love morally gray protagonists and characters in general. While I do like characters like Tanjirou, I prefer mc's who don't always have the moral high ground. That's why I love the main casts of Chainsaw Man and Oshi no Ko. While the characters on the "less bad" side are fundamentally good people, many of their actions, motives, and decisions are questionable at best. Even though I probably wouldn't want to be friends with many of them Irl (at least at first), they are very interesting characters to follow because of their flaws.
I disagree with the analysis that Naruto's journey is just a "chosen one" narrative. Naruto didn’t know he was the son of the Fourth Hokage or the Child of Prophecy until much later in the series. For most of his life, his teachers and peers underestimated him, as seen during the Chunin Exams when they expected him to lose to Kiba and Neji. While the Nine-Tails (Kurama) did assist him, it was Naruto's own choices and determination that defined his path.Naruto repeatedly made conscious decisions that shaped his destiny. He chose to inherit Jiraiya's will and strive for peace, he chose to bond with Kurama rather than let their relationship remain hostile, and he chose not to give up even when others doubted him. Naruto continued to train and push his limits despite countless setbacks. He decided to fight alongside Killer Bee in the Fourth Great Ninja War, and he ultimately chose not to kill Sasuke, defying the cycle of hatred that had plagued their world.These were all choices Naruto made on his own, reflecting his character and resolve. While he had certain advantages, his greatness wasn’t a guaranteed outcome of his lineage or prophecy. Instead, it was the result of his relentless perseverance, his willingness to forge bonds, and his refusal to be defined by others' expectations. In this way, Naruto's journey is less about being a "chosen one" and more about how he chose to forge his own path, much like Deku in My Hero Academia. Both characters embody the themes of hard work, sacrifice, and the power of personal choices in determining their destinies.
Rimiru has been my fav this year and season in my life. the idea of building a better society around me is quite appealing and I'm not a shounen anymore loool
Tanjiro is a goody two-shoes and that's funny. I've laughed hard about how comically sweet he is. All the byron clones are so fun to watch I should get around to watching code geass
Another video that teaches me a lot. It really gave me a nice look into how to build and structure a protagonist. Always glad to learn more with your video's Axelbro!!!
I'm gonna have to refute your point about Natsu. He does as whenever every time he meets new dragon slayers or anything dragon related in the following arcs, he perks up and question on where is Igneel. Examples are in his conversation with Gildarts about Acnologia to stay away from and in the manga once he finishes, he ran outside to look for the black dragon and had thoughts on thinking that he'll never see him again. Another would be the fight against Cobra when even though he got poison dragon slayer magic, he believes that the dragons are extinct in the present and Natsu denies it hard.
Nice video. I think I like the adventuring protagonist the most. Gon from HxH is my favorite MC. He has the typical dumb MC moments, but he's not a block head most of the time like say, Natsu. Though I just love HxH in general
Hi AXEL! Has been a long while, but I see you upload a new video, I click as fast as I can (edit: 8 days ago? It was in my suggestions just now). I'm sure I'll love your video even before watching. I bet it took you ages to prepare this one. Edit 2: after watching, I definitely can confirm my first thought. Great analysis. And for your question at the end, I guess I tend to gravitate towards tragic, underdog, anti-hero and questing protagonists most. But it's hard to judge since a good anime is so much more than just the protagonist.
Is it wrong if I don't have a favorite 😅 I can like or dislike a type of protagonist based on the story and how everything is presented. If the story and characters are compelling, I'll enjoy almost any protagonist. Love this video and your content, can't wait for Fairy Tail!!!!
Havent watched yet but first thoughts based on the thumbnail and and scrolling through the chapters is: I'm surprised by a lack of Tanjiro. I feel he's a great way to do a chosen one (especially with the subversion of Tanjiro not being THE chosen one but more of a chosen one) and an underdog at the same time. Edit: I must have missed him in the chapters unless you updated it. I didnt see it the first time. Looking at this character from the quintessential good guy lens is accurate but i feel its a bit surface level for his character. I look forward to watching the demon slayer deep dive.
I did discuss tanjiro, though in another section. I tried not to repeat characters - that said, i don't believe he is a chosen one character and I discussed that in my demon slayer deep dive video
@@AxelBeats ill check that video out later and see if you change my mind. I still think hes chosen in the sense that everyone puts him into that role except for the universe/plot itself. Edit after watching the chosen one segments I feel like alot of what you say about Deku is applicable to Tanjiro. Tanjiro is constantly pushing himself to be as good as "The Chosen One" and even has been given all the same tools. He has the earings, the black blade, the mark, sun breathing, inherited memories of being taught straight from the original chosen one, fights against a faux representation of the chosen one in order to get as good as him. His family has knowledge of the blue spider lily and his family has the ability to defeat the sun. Even Muzan chooses him in multiple different ways. There comes a point where the distinction is the only difference and I would argue that Tanjiro is a Chosen One in every way that matters except the one semantic that defines the title. Can't wait to see if you touch on this in the deep dive.
@@edgeelric4245 looking forward to your thoughts on it! Sorry in advanced for how long that video is aha if it helps, i think it's the best video i've made at least lol
On twitter, sure. In the real world where we dont base out views on what a youtuber said It isn't vague at all though. A Mary Sue is someone unrealistically flawless, that's it.
No, luffy from Fishman Island 12 years ago would have when he said he didnt wanna be a hero because a hero shares food. Since then he has grown and the end of wano specifically shows him wanting to make a world where his friends could eat all they want to demonstrate that growth.
Meanwhile, Gintoki is over here just chilling as the greatest protag, but man, such a dope video talking about something so cool to discuss 😎
Luffy is not a hero, he is a liberator.
i mean, one character can be more than one right?
@@OniyunYunno
@@UnoDinero95001Media illiteracy.
A hero would share his meat Luffy wants to keep his meat for himself 🍖
@@charmsr7629 Nope.
Personally I think Deku and the story of MHA would have been far more compiling if he remained quirkless throughout the whole story
Or had one quirk
hes quirkless after everything that happens... what do you think about the ending of it?
No 😂
Story wise what intrigued me about chapter one of MHA is what the I thought the story was going to be about, a story about a quirkless kid in a world of super heroes being trained by the worlds greatest hero, honestly I was really really looking forward to a story like that but then Deku got a quirk by the next chapter and although there are characters and storylines I liked, but as a whole I wasn’t the biggest fan of MHA I dropped it at season 5 when Deku unlocked a second quirk I immediately left. I’m aware how the story played out by my friends but in my opinion the story could have been a lot better.
Thats interesting, but one mistake he made in the video, the show itself is actually well loved, compelling, and well written, its just the fanbase that ended up ruining its reputation causing people to hate it.
Currently writing a story around two opposing tragic heroes: one an antihero whose flaw is being so caught up in trying to improve and save the world that she misses and tears apart her relationship with her brother, a fallen hero being exploited by the very power structure his sister is trying to diamantle
Love this video! I struggle with the complexity of characters within stories especially when I feel like I want to write my own. Thank you for breaking everything down in a clear and informative way. Best to you, Professor Axel XD and hope you are doing well doing whatever creative projects you are engaging in next.
5:55 thats exactly what makes him such a good main character for demon slayer. Bassically think of him as the jesus of that universe, the world around him is dark with weak willed people constantly going down the wrong path trying to survive, (by path I mean what lead to them becoming a demon, and what they did as a demon.) but in the end they find healing from this one person who represents hope, and in the end doesn't hate them for chosing that path, even if its by choice or not, and is only disappointed and sad for them. In a way, when he kills them, its bassically freeing them from that path, and healing them mentally, before they begin life again.
Thanks boss!
I love morally gray protagonists and characters in general. While I do like characters like Tanjirou, I prefer mc's who don't always have the moral high ground. That's why I love the main casts of Chainsaw Man and Oshi no Ko. While the characters on the "less bad" side are fundamentally good people, many of their actions, motives, and decisions are questionable at best. Even though I probably wouldn't want to be friends with many of them Irl (at least at first), they are very interesting characters to follow because of their flaws.
I disagree with the analysis that Naruto's journey is just a "chosen one" narrative. Naruto didn’t know he was the son of the Fourth Hokage or the Child of Prophecy until much later in the series. For most of his life, his teachers and peers underestimated him, as seen during the Chunin Exams when they expected him to lose to Kiba and Neji. While the Nine-Tails (Kurama) did assist him, it was Naruto's own choices and determination that defined his path.Naruto repeatedly made conscious decisions that shaped his destiny. He chose to inherit Jiraiya's will and strive for peace, he chose to bond with Kurama rather than let their relationship remain hostile, and he chose not to give up even when others doubted him. Naruto continued to train and push his limits despite countless setbacks. He decided to fight alongside Killer Bee in the Fourth Great Ninja War, and he ultimately chose not to kill Sasuke, defying the cycle of hatred that had plagued their world.These were all choices Naruto made on his own, reflecting his character and resolve. While he had certain advantages, his greatness wasn’t a guaranteed outcome of his lineage or prophecy. Instead, it was the result of his relentless perseverance, his willingness to forge bonds, and his refusal to be defined by others' expectations. In this way, Naruto's journey is less about being a "chosen one" and more about how he chose to forge his own path, much like Deku in My Hero Academia. Both characters embody the themes of hard work, sacrifice, and the power of personal choices in determining their destinies.
Naruto was the choosen one. He was choosen to work hard to reach his goals. That was part of the prophecy
@@zero1188what are you talking about😂😂
There’s 100 types of protagonists bcz there’s 100 traits
Rimiru has been my fav this year and season in my life. the idea of building a better society around me is quite appealing and I'm not a shounen anymore loool
Tanjiro is a goody two-shoes and that's funny.
I've laughed hard about how comically sweet he is.
All the byron clones are so fun to watch I should get around to watching code geass
Another video that teaches me a lot. It really gave me a nice look into how to build and structure a protagonist. Always glad to learn more with your video's Axelbro!!!
Really liked the visuals of the characters alongside their archetype being discussed. When I heard chosen one I KNEW Yugi had to show up on the screen
I'll let Dakota know you liked the edit!
Lelouch was totally an amazing anti hero !
And also Emiya Kiritsugu from Fate / Zero
Why is Guts a "moral hero" and not a "tragic hero"?
Never mind, why is Guts a "moral hero" when he should be a survivor?
Guts is many things. No character is solely slotted into one topic, as I say in the video.
I'm gonna have to refute your point about Natsu. He does as whenever every time he meets new dragon slayers or anything dragon related in the following arcs, he perks up and question on where is Igneel. Examples are in his conversation with Gildarts about Acnologia to stay away from and in the manga once he finishes, he ran outside to look for the black dragon and had thoughts on thinking that he'll never see him again. Another would be the fight against Cobra when even though he got poison dragon slayer magic, he believes that the dragons are extinct in the present and Natsu denies it hard.
Missed your videos 😭😭😭😭
Nice video. I think I like the adventuring protagonist the most. Gon from HxH is my favorite MC. He has the typical dumb MC moments, but he's not a block head most of the time like say, Natsu. Though I just love HxH in general
Hi AXEL! Has been a long while, but I see you upload a new video, I click as fast as I can (edit: 8 days ago? It was in my suggestions just now).
I'm sure I'll love your video even before watching. I bet it took you ages to prepare this one.
Edit 2: after watching, I definitely can confirm my first thought. Great analysis.
And for your question at the end, I guess I tend to gravitate towards tragic, underdog, anti-hero and questing protagonists most. But it's hard to judge since a good anime is so much more than just the protagonist.
Hope you've been well!
@@AxelBeats Thank you!.
Unfortunately not really that much, but at least I'm still around.
Sending love :)
@@AxelBeats Thank you once more.
Congrats on teaching in japan
Thanks? That was yeeeeears ago though lol
Is it wrong if I don't have a favorite 😅 I can like or dislike a type of protagonist based on the story and how everything is presented. If the story and characters are compelling, I'll enjoy almost any protagonist. Love this video and your content, can't wait for Fairy Tail!!!!
I love Goku bc he just wants to fight the strongest, everything else be damned
Uhhh have cool design lol
Okabe is great
Havent watched yet but first thoughts based on the thumbnail and and scrolling through the chapters is:
I'm surprised by a lack of Tanjiro. I feel he's a great way to do a chosen one (especially with the subversion of Tanjiro not being THE chosen one but more of a chosen one) and an underdog at the same time.
Edit: I must have missed him in the chapters unless you updated it. I didnt see it the first time. Looking at this character from the quintessential good guy lens is accurate but i feel its a bit surface level for his character. I look forward to watching the demon slayer deep dive.
I did discuss tanjiro, though in another section. I tried not to repeat characters - that said, i don't believe he is a chosen one character and I discussed that in my demon slayer deep dive video
@@AxelBeats ill check that video out later and see if you change my mind. I still think hes chosen in the sense that everyone puts him into that role except for the universe/plot itself.
Edit after watching the chosen one segments I feel like alot of what you say about Deku is applicable to Tanjiro. Tanjiro is constantly pushing himself to be as good as "The Chosen One" and even has been given all the same tools. He has the earings, the black blade, the mark, sun breathing, inherited memories of being taught straight from the original chosen one, fights against a faux representation of the chosen one in order to get as good as him. His family has knowledge of the blue spider lily and his family has the ability to defeat the sun. Even Muzan chooses him in multiple different ways.
There comes a point where the distinction is the only difference and I would argue that Tanjiro is a Chosen One in every way that matters except the one semantic that defines the title. Can't wait to see if you touch on this in the deep dive.
@@edgeelric4245 looking forward to your thoughts on it! Sorry in advanced for how long that video is aha if it helps, i think it's the best video i've made at least lol
Crazy considering Tanjiro IS a surface level goody 2 shoes trope. Actual zero flaws, and the story backs him up all the way through..
Love you coming in and talking about surface level, then being surface level. A+ on that
29:12 no way you showed high school dxd. And noooooo way you showed that one!
Ok?
@@AxelBeats im just surprised your such a great man of culture
More the editor than me. I haven't watched that since the series came out, definitely not something I'd watch now lol
@@AxelBeats ahhh i keep tripping over myself but your editor is a man of culture as well i guess
Aha he definitely is. If you like dxd you'd probably love his channel. Check out Dakota Broskie if you get time :)
The "critique" mary sue is so vague, it does not mean anything, beside i don' t like this character.
On twitter, sure. In the real world where we dont base out views on what a youtuber said It isn't vague at all though. A Mary Sue is someone unrealistically flawless, that's it.
@@AxelBeatsDon't forget "liked by everybody regardless of their actions".
That's definitely often included too aha
@@AxelBeats Well, it's a defining characteristic, actually. All the way back to the actual character named Mary Sue, from a Star Trek fanfic.
Posting this comment a few minutes into the video, will delete when i hear Allen Walker’s name
Idk who that is
@@AxelBeats D. Gray Man MC
@@KurseDHero Oh! i have a few friends who love that series. It's been on my list forever i just havent made time aha
Luffy isn't a hero. Heroes are selfless to a fault.
This isn't Hercules rules, there are plenty of types of heroes
@@AxelBeats well, at the very least, Luffy would take offense to you calling him a hero.
No, luffy from Fishman Island 12 years ago would have when he said he didnt wanna be a hero because a hero shares food.
Since then he has grown and the end of wano specifically shows him wanting to make a world where his friends could eat all they want to demonstrate that growth.
@@AxelBeats Luffy always had that goal. Luffy doesn't change; he changes people around him
@afj810 If that's your opinion I am begging you to watch one piece because I think you saw 2 piece or something