The comments: oh no, we watched a reaction video and got mad that someone reacted honestly 😂😂 Yes, as Sleep Token fans, we watch these videos in hopes to see others fall in love with them as we have, but that's not going to be the case every time. Every one has different tastes, ST is not going to be everyone's cup of tea.
That has to be taken in account when dealing with YT users. Nevertheless let me give you an advice, of course absolutely personal and that shouldn't affect you too much: This is a drummer reaction video to a particularly skilled other dummer, whether you like it or not his style or the music, you should at least consider to give your judgement on technical skills, otherwise you result boring because you were bored. I mean man, don't do reaction videos like this if you don't want to get deeper into others' style of drumming. It's kinda useless to watchers and on the long run for your channel. My personal memory I'll have of this video? "Maan, I don't like that snare" Being italian too, the only reply that came to my mind was "Esticazzi?" Don't take it personally, just a suggestion. Keep up the good work and good luck.
Men I just had 28 shots of vodka and its 9:14 am... I shouldn't of read your comment before starting the video... now im sh***faced I had to stop the video halfway... 1 I got annoyed has F, 2 im hammered...
Im a huge fan so im deffo biased but II is genuinely one of the best modern drummers ive ever seen. His fills and general technique are off the charts.
II leaves a very nice amount of spaces in their songs. But when he plays, he plays. Its just their style of music. So i dont think he's drumming is too much.
I personally love his snare sound, but everyone has their own opinion. He has lots of groove and intricacies and fills. Very unique drummer. My favorite. Check out some more Sleep Token. They are my favorite band and are extremely talented and unique.
I have listened to the album and actually really liked it. Snare sound better in the album in my opinion. Drum parts are nice but maybe a bit overplayed for my taste. Overall a really cool band. Many people judge way too soon and harshly before they get the point.
Lol mate, you opened a can of worms with your comments. But fair play for being honest. If we all liked the same thing, it would be a boring world. If you listen to the actual tracked music, it's not as busy as it is in this video.
Man I genuinely had no idea all this was going to happen 😅 To be fair, I never said I didn't like the music. People keep freaking out, but I think they didn't really pay attention. Thumbnail was enough to trigger them, my bad, maybe! The video overall felt boring to me but the music was nice, and I loved the vocals especially. I did listen to their latest album and I liked it 👍
In response to some of your comments, my opinion is that the higher tuned snare cuts through the mix better to feel the flow and bounce of the song, and although the drum parts are quite busy, they never feel overplayed or cluttered.
I’d say that’s debatable. The snare drum sounds lower tuned on the album and I thinks that sounds way better. Very high tuned snare drums loose power. Yes it’s very audible because of the super high pitch but they lack of body, as the shell doesn’t resonate much. Hi tunings will choke up the drum. I used to run a recording studio, I have personally experimented with a number of recording settings and super high tuned snare drums always lost in a A/B test. Hi tuning is fine but within reason. With regards to the drum parts, there’s no right or wrong. You say the busy parts he plays never feel overplayed. I feel the exact opposite. I see our instrument as a foundation. But thanks for your polite comment. Too many aggressive and desperate people in this chat.
@@AlessandroSpenga While I say you are right with the tuning at times, I also prefer a lower tuning on my drums to fill out the wall of sound, I understand why it has been pitched up in this setting. I would usually agree with the drums being the foundation of the track, but I've noticed sleep token tend to use the bass and guitars for this and leave the drums to be more of a focal point alongside the vocals as a more 'stand-out' feature of the tracks which I think is important for the styles they play and the transitions, you need to be feeling the flow of the song to get the same impact from the changes and with playing intricate feels and time signatures (like a triplet feel over a 4 signature) I think the busier drums pull the ear and keep you in time better.
As a big sleep token fan, I genuinely appreciate your feedback on the drums. not everyone is going to like the same stuff but kudos to for expressing your opinions 🖤🖤
We don't have the same tastes and not everyone has good taste and we have to respect that, but that snare drum is the best I've ever heard, it cuts through the music and fits the music superbly. fu***ng amazing.
Every very other element from the drums and vocals in their music is a pad or a melodic rhythmic element and what makes II stand out as a drummer is his ability to be the connecting factor between those. The listener never loses the beat in his patterns, and he accents every note because nothing would stand out otherwise. If he didn’t take attention to finding those accents the instrumentals would be mostly uninteresting with no forward motion, and the sections blend in to one another. His busy work certainly throws off more traditional backbeat drumming camps.
If you think a drummer has to accent every single note it means the guitars, bass and keys aren’t strong enough. Anyways, a lot of you people commenting don’t seem to have watched the video; I said many good things about II and I enjoyed the music. I simply think some of the parts are too much FOR MY PERSONAL TASTE 🤝 And the drumeo video I think was boring the way they presented it… Oh, and that snare drum sounds horrible 🤣 Guys, be mature and RESPECT EVERYONES OPINION✌️
There was a great opportunity to analyse some drum parts even if you didn't personally enjoy them. Instead, you spent the whole video whining about a highly tuned snare drum and that he plays too much for your taste. As a drummer myself, I love watching and taking inspiration from all kinds of music that I'd never have on my playlist because there are gems everywhere. You didn't notice or comment on anything other than "groove". Waste of time
It's fine to have a different taste and not liking something, it's the bitching and moaning about it that did it for me personally and many others it seems, well that and the "boring" part, skipping parts of the video. If it's so unbearable that you have to call it boring and skip a chunk of the video to be done with it faster then, why post it in the first place. I get it, engagement farming is both applied to positive and negative comments, likes/dislikes while capitalising on the popularity of the band. Odd. If that's the type of content this channel wants to put out, flagging it as "not interesting" or "irrelevant" seems like a good choice.
The problem with your comment about II playing "too many notes" for your liking is that, in Sleep Token, the drums are meant to standout and act as a focal point along with the vocals, as, unlike most other bands, their songs aren't typically written to highlight any guitar parts.
It’s just personal opinions mate. I’m 100% sure the song would sound great even without all those notes. I used to run a recording studio and have been writing music and producing for years. I have some experience to say that.
@AlessandroSpenga you remind me of all those women that get beat by their man but won't leave cause 'they love him.' I like all.snare sounds. It's why I play on my e-kit more these days. I can change it's sound in less than a second.
We all have our personal tastes. It’s just nice that you can have your criticisms but also admit that Sleep Token are talented musicians. A lot of people like to pretend that the band is absolute garbage because they don’t personally enjoy their sound.
There's a difference between being technically proficient and good. Steve Vai, Malmsteen, Satriani, while technical players, are totally unlistenable for more than a few seconds. Just like the thousands of UA-cam "virtuosos." How about you play something I can feel instead of playing something that will wow me, because flashy musicians are a dime a dozen.
@@kiillabytez and is your claim that ii isn’t a good/listenable player? Because I totally disagree. He doesn’t overplay and sets a groove within each song
@@brandonb.5304 That's a misinterpretation. I said in this video that anyone tries to find his/her own voice; II definitely found his own and that's him. Obviously, it doesn't mean anyone has to enjoy his playing 🤝I personally didn't. Sorry if that disappoints you, but that's my opinion.
I would have wished to see a bit more comments from you about his playing apart from the sound of the snare drum or the too busy playing you didn't enjoyed as well. It's all taste and I don't blame you for not liking it, I would just have wished from a drummer to get more comments about the drumming for example about different patterns, drum kit, cymbals, ... Again it's also just taste how I feel about your video 😉
@@AlessandroSpengahe said more. As in you could have given positive information 9 of the ten times you reminded us his snare wasn't your favorite sound. He's basically saying you said it ONCE. No need to beat a dead horse, right.
If doesn’t matter “who” they are - and that’s what makes them REAL - the music is incredible because of the artists that they are, not the artists that we think they are.
I actually enjoy their music, and I’ve said many times in this video. I simply don’t really love his drumming to death, like every ST fan, apparently. My opinion
At least you like vessels voice, eh, hahaha. He won prices so it's fine, we're not all hurt by your opinions, he's a beast nonetheless, personal preferences aside. Snare drum just satisfying, honestly.
i read every comment lol. i love this band, every element about them hits me just right, however i get not everyone likes the snare or some overplaying, there are tons of songs where underplaying is used verry well. my favorite drum track is hypnosis. the groove i find very hypnotic and engaging. you should do another sleep token video and see if the response is an different
Thanks for your kind manners, man! That's absolutely fine! I've been a fan of prog music for years actually, I know the genre very very well, trust me. To me, personally, this didn't seem like something so outstanding, never seen before. That being said, I actually like their last album, it's really cool! I wasn't too impressed with II's drumming TBH, I can't understand how that's an actual problem for some people 😅 Anyways, might try again in the future! Thanks again for your comment 🤘
I think the reason people are so critical of this video isn't because you don't like the style, there are plenty of Sleep Token reactions where the creator doesn't like them that don't have this kind of backlash, but that it's of the absence of addressing any technical abilities. A lot of musicians watch these reactions to hear other peoples takes on the skills. Regardless of whether you're into it or not, II is incredibly talented and uses techniques that any of us drummers would benefit from studying. Personally, I would have liked to hear your criticisms on his skills, as well as what you might have found impressive, or even relate/compare his style to yours. Something people can learn from. Without that, the tone of the video does have a bit of a "I don't like this so that makes it boring and unimpressive" vibe. I watched the video twice and I don't think it's your intention at all, but if you translate that vibe to any situation it gives a sense of (for lack of better words) just being mean and petty. I doubt many viewers have thought that through, so they are reacting strongly and defensively to that vibe, not really the opinion. There's my take as a musician and someone who work in the field of psychology haha. With that being said, sorry that people are trashing on you rather than providing their feedback in a respectful way. You don't deserve that. I would love to see another Sleep Token reaction video (or even a redo or the rest of this one) to hear your analytical perspective on them, specifically on II's drumming, and look forward to seeing more videos in the future. Best of luck!!!
Beautiful comment! No, indeed what you described wasn’t my intention at all. I honestly don’t mind salty comments, I truly listen to this music for the first time in this video and what you see was my honest reaction. Had no idea what to expect and, what can I say… I wasn’t impressed by his drumming. I started listening to ST after this and I particularly like “chokehold”. I really enjoy how he plays on that one. The rest to me feels a bit too overplayed, I can’t change my mind. This comes from someone who used to overplay and I’ve learned to keep myself under control and serve the music. Also, as a former recording studio owner, I’ve produced bands and guided them from a demo to a polished album. Guess what most of my “psychology” work on them was based on… serving the music! You achieve that through sound design, accents, slight variations in tone and melody, but most of the problems I encountered were related to overplaying. So I guess I’ve learned to really find a meaning to every note a musician plays. I don’t listen to music as a drummer, rather as a “normal” listener. Clearly, many people disagree here; II’s playing doesn’t sound like overplaying at all to many. I’d say it all comes down to your musical background. Anyways, I’d like to sequel this video and talk about this topic and share my ideas… and I’ll also make a drum cover of sleep token, to see if they change their mind 🤣
As a Sleep Token fan, I appreciate honest reaction and discussion as done here. I see no need for negative comments. The saying "de gustibus non est disputandum" still applies here. The way people, and drummers on this channel, learn is by having a healthy discussion on the style and technique of the drummer. The style depends on the person, their music taste, and it will be different for every person. Bashing someone for their personal preferences is unnecessary and does not serve anyone. Be respectful to the creator and to people who want to learn and hear others' opinions and ideas. Would you bash II if he said that country-style drumming is not his thing or if he said that the Bad Omens fill he would do differently? Grow up people.
I love Sleep Token but I also love a WIDE diversity of genres including music from different countries/languages. I also dislike my share. I love a good honest review. With that out of the way lol, I LOVE a high tuned snare for some reason, it just hits my ear right, however, there are absolutely songs where it wouldn't' really fit. Loved the review/reaction!
Tanks for your polite approach. I can tell by experience snare drum tuning can make or break a song. In my opinion a lower tuned snare drum would fit their style much better. In fact, on the actual album they used a lower tuning. Some drummers also prefer a much higher tuning for live because it’s easier to play. Depends on what you play though. Personally I don’t like a table top tight feel at all, too bouncy and responsive, almost like a practice pad, which feels nothing like a snare drum. Opinions. But it’s nice that not everyone is a fuming ST fan in this thread 😅
It would be interesting to hear your renditions of these songs so we can hear how you think they should have been played. As someone who doesn't play drums, I do not understand the whole snare thing you are talking about so it would be really cool to hear your version and how it differs.
If you want a really good sleep token song that hits you in the feels with ease: Bloodsport (from the room below). If you want a band similar to Sleep Token try the new October Ends song Damaged. You're welcome
I’m so surprised by the comments here. We ST fans gravitate to these reactions to share in experiencing the newness with reactors, but the hate is a hard pass in the comments. Full respect for your input and your analyzation. We do not all have the same taste or the same opinions and that’s OKAY. Thank you for the video 🖤✨🌙 worship.
@@AlessandroSpenga No, it's their biggest song and was released before the full video. It contains an incredible drum solo (not in the studio version, but that he plays live). Just for the complexity of it all, it is worth checking out. Its like the ultimate display of II's skills, especially ghost notes and groove.
At least he loves the voice. Which who the hell doesn’t. He has a beautiful voice. But if you don’t like a certain part of a song or the band in all, there is certainly nothing wrong. We’re all bound to like other styles that others may not like
Calls ii boring, But post covers of Lincoln Park, U2, and Nickelback. 😂😂😂😂. Apparently your marketing skills surpass your taste by creating some engagement on your video by riling up a rabid fan base. It worked on me, lol
@@AlessandroSpenga bro, all your covers are in 4/4, and you call this guy “boring”. Who’s the rude one? 🤣🤦🏻♂️ It’s like saying the videos of me snowboarding in Alaska are boring while you’re going down a bunny hill.
@@AlessandroSpenga I’m guessing English is your second language, so I’ll ask you to read my analogy again, because if the only thing you pulled out of it was me calling you boring, you completely missed the point. Either that, or your narcissism won’t let you. 🤷🏻♂️
I always loving seeing varied opinions of the band! I really connect with the bands music- love the comparison to tesseract- i always tell people who like sleep token they should check out tesseract😂
Here is a ROUGH breakdown of your video…since you comment so much about respecting opinions…here’s mine. I even have a little challenge at the end for you(; 22sec in- first opinion of high tuned snare and accents/fillers- 1:18- second complaint about snare 1:23- third snare complaint 1:30- first opinion with clout 2:49- another comment about fillers/accents/notes 3:40 first compliment(other than vocal compliment) 3:49- another complaint on too much fillers/accents 5:10- first advice/constructive criticism 6:15-6:50 another complaint about the snare drum that lasted 35sec 7:15 complaint/opinion about playing style 7:18 another complaint about fillers/too many notes 8:35 second advice/constructive criticism 10:10- third advice/constructive criticism 11:13- 4th compliment 11:50- 5th compliment/advice/constructive criticism 12:33- 6th compliment/advice/constructive criticism 12:45 7th compliment/advice/constructive criticism 12:58- another fills problem 13:02- boring video complaint?? 1418- another accent/fillers complaint 14:39- another snare complaint 14:58 another snare complaint 15:10 bored complaint 15:34- bored complaint All in all- You had 3 compliments throughout and they were only said 3-4times the entire video never about ii just the sound of the song, and the vocals. Next you had 2 complaints said about 15 different times. You probably spent about 4-5min just complaining about the same two things. And the boring comments about the video being boring? Ok cause yours was SUPER entertaining. People will hear what you talk about the most. You spent the vast majority of your speaking/talking moments just complaining about the same two things. Tells me you don’t actually know how to break something down and give feedback. It’s like when people can only use the word “literally”. Their vernacular is not well matured. Here’s my challenge…make a video where YOU cover one of THEIR songs and show us what you’d do differently. You know, since you have so much recording, composing, and UA-cam credibility. Then, let people react to YOUR cover and see what the people actually think…you won’t though lol. Why? To scared to back himself up.
@@AlessandroSpengahe's showing you how it's done. Took him 5 seconds to break down your video 1000 times more accurately and with less personal opinion than your troll video.
To the uploader: the drumeo video was 100% fan service, it might have heen worthwhile to check out a few of their songs before deepdiving on his playing. Having said that, you didn't really enjoy the playing, and you said as much. Dont let toxic people get to you. To my fellow ST fans: ii just took home Metal drummer OTY, album OTY, and overall drummer OTY. ST is selling out small arenas. He doesn't need an army of people harsssing his critics. And finally, the snare sound is *chefs kiss* 😊
Fair enough. It wouldn’t be a true reaction if was “prepared”. I watched the video for the first time with my camera on. I don’t mind critics. I made my point clear and gave a honest opinion.
@@AlessandroSpenga I think you're missing my point. There are dozens of diehard ST fans who did genuine reactions to the Drumeo video. The novelty of it, again was that it was the first interview a member of ST has done, and a chance to see more of a band that is as secretive as they come. If you had no idea who they are and what their deal is, that critical part of the reaction process is missing. What you did, by not listening to any of their prior work, is the equivalent to reacting to a behind-the-scenes special about some blockbuster movie before actually watching the movie. You seem to revel in finding disagreement and contention in most all of the comments on your video, but I'll save you the trouble by letting you know I won't be returning to this one, so, no need. Good luck with your channel, but I'll be making sure YT doesn't recommend any more of your content to me. Cheers
@@AlessandroSpengayou literally spent 4 entire minute BITCHING about things that are an artistic choice when you could have been professional. I'll look forward to their next album, tour, and movie cameos and I'll forget about you and your 'critisisms' 😂
super funny to see people freak out because someone doesn't like the band as fully as they do lol, personally i like the drumming because its busy and sounds fresh to me, and that snare...just scratched that part of my brain, love it. It is nice to hear someone with a different opinion though and be honest for a change instead of overreacting in enjoyment for a youtube video just for views.
That bloody snare really got ya, eh? 😁 I assume the mixing adds to that sharp sound, aswell. I personally like higher tuned snare drums, but on their records (and live), they sound better. Here they are a bit too sharp in the mix. Oh and my world does not crumble into pieces, if someone doesn't like it. That's normal, tastes are different. Your reaction to this video is nothing I would give a downvote. And ST became a big part of my life, a very big one even. Not everone will fall in love or has to. 😅 Oh, and a snare sound I think is really tasty is that of Nic Pettersen's (Northlane). In his videos (especially the Hologram-Playthrough) it sounds just marvellous. Regarding the video itself, I feel what you mean with boring, but I don't know how to describe it in words. Since I'm a big fan of his playing style, it didn't bother me. But to be honest, if I had no connection to the drummer, his band, style, whatsoever... I don't know if I would have watched the video in full.
Nice comment man, thanks. By “boring” I mean the way the video was presented and edited. After watching it I realized it was probably put together for ST fans more than else. If you compare it with Portnoy’s videos… well I honestly didn’t know what to expect but watched almost the whole video. Btw I understand the influence of deftones but to me a very high pitched snare drums doesn’t fit well in the mix with modern detuned guitars/bass (I used to run a studio and do mixing, so I have some experience on that). Anyways, sounds way better on the record.
@@AlessandroSpenga You're welcome =) - Yes. I feel that. The energy some people bring with them, resonates in interviews, videos, etc. too. I always enjoyed wactching the making of documentation about Dream Theaters album "Systematic Chaos". Mike is wonderful character, I really like him. So, yeah, II on the other hand appears totally different in this video, hence the masks, lore and stuff. I think the video with II carries this certain vibe of distance, which may feel very strange to non-ST-fans. And that's absolutely understandable. I mix music and record stuff inside my home studio for many years, too, but not on a professional level. Now I want to test that. I can imagine, the high pitched snares can make the sound pretty thin and hard to handle / stand out.
Forse il punto di non incontro è che proietti il suo modo di suonare sul tuo quindi ti vedi a suonare nei brani e non accompagneresti così oppure avresti un'accordatura diversa per avere un altro suono ma in questo caso non sarebbero più gli stessi. Da chitarrista, se cambi il suono della batteria o batterista cambia l'identità del brano...forse l'aspetto "nuovo" del gruppo è mischiare metal (deftones in primis) al pop e r&b (ed ecco i gospel chops e simili) e tutto verte su voce e batteria, gli altri strumenti alla fine aiutano solo a costruire l'atmosfera di ogni singola parte di un brano. Non sono un loro fan sfegatato, alcune canzoni sono proprio belle, altre proprio no...però il suono della batteria è top, pur piacendomi anche un suono più ciccione diciamo così...alla fine sta proprio se ti piace il genere o meno 😊👋
Ciao, innanzi tutto ti ringrazio per i toni educati (finalmente qualcuno😆)! Personalmente vedo tantissimo hype dietro questa band ma non mi sembra una cosa mai vista. Band in maschera e anonime ce ne sono già state e mescolare metal con altri generi "pop" è roba va indietro di quasi 30 anni (nu metal, ad esempio). Quindi, il concetto in sé non è la novità, bensì il sound, che è bello cazzuto. I brani mi sono piaciuti in realtà, specialmente l'ultimo album; voce bellissima (penso sia la loro particolarità). In generale non mi ha particolarmente colpito il drumming di II. L'utilizzo di gospel chops e grove sincopati fu reso celebre da band come Periphery e Animals As Leaders; parliamo di più di 10 anni fa. Lui ha il suo sound, la sua personalità e funziona per loro, quindi va bene così. Ma queste sono cose che ho detto nel video. Sia chiaro non voglio sminuire e penso che questo sia stato fortemente frainteso. La gente commenta senza sapere chi ha davanti; io sono musicista da 30 anni e sono anche stato produttore, i miei lavori sono pubblicati. Inoltre da sempre fan dei generi prog. Metà della mia discografia sono band prog: Gentle Giant, Spock's Beard, DT, OSI, Transatlantic, Nel Morse, Porcupine Tree, Periphery, AAL, Tesseract e altri... direi che non è la prima volta che ascolto musica prog... Comunque, ti ringrazio per il commento! Mi fa piacere che anche i connazionali seguano questi video in lingua Inglese!
@@AlessandroSpenga Ma figurati...io odio i social proprio perché invece di confrontarsi ci si insulta e basta come allo stadio e ho capito benissimo che non sminuivi niente e nessuno. Tranquillo si capisce che sei molto competente, infatti alla fine il discorso si riduce sempre se una band, genere o musicista piace e questo è soggettivo, ovviamente se il prodotto è di qualità. Infatti ho scritto nuovo virgolettato perché prima del nu metal ci furono Faith no more, 24-7 spyz, Rhcp, ecc che fecero crossover tra i vari generi e come dici tu sia per un discorso di genere musicale che stile di II in realtà di nuovo non c'è nulla (se non le basi trap). Secondo me ciò che differenzia II da Garstka e Halpern (oltre a quello che fanno vedere stilisticamente e tecnicamente nei loro rispettivi gruppi) è che gli Sleep Token sono molto più pop e molto meno intricati degli altri gruppi citati e riescono ad arrivare a più persone, sono riusciti a crearsi un immagine e hype, ecc. Alla fine lui stesso dice di sentirsi un Abe Cunningham più giovane e quindi tutto ciò che ne consegue stilisticamente, a me in alcune piccole cose (e soprattutto come idea di accompagnare) un po' Gavin Harrison II me lo ricorda, ovviamente senza toccare le sue vette creative e tecniche al momento. Grazie a te della risposta altrettanto pacata 😊👋
It was honest yes. But you kinda mentioned you were bored a billion times and hated the snare even more. You even claim EVERYONE you know ask you to crank your snare up. Sometimes they need to pop. I'm just glad not many share your opinion. The world would be a borning place.
I truly made the effort of watching almost the entire video because I wanted to be honest. And at one point I couldn’t help saying how bored I was (that’s a very long video). Next time I’m not going to be honest. I won’t watch a video “actually” for the first time and react to it. I’ll make sure I’ll watch the video first to decide wether is worth reacting or not. I understand spectators only enjoy reactions when you are amazed by something.
"Ohh no what did I do wrong that Im here "reacting" to other FAMOUS people's video" type of attitude! I can 100% tell that you're from Roma... anyways Peppino Spaghetti, hopefully you will find something to un-bore you because you sound like you dislike funny cat videos! Arrivederci!
@@kiillabytez It's fine not to like them (or any band) but to say they are "mediocre at best" is just silly. I don't particularly like a lot of bands and still recognize that they are very good on a technical level.
Whatr happened to standard Drumming? Why does everything need to be embelleshed with synchopated accents and fills? It's almost to the point of cliche now, and unless you're playing like this you aren't even considered as being talented anymore.
I agree on playing simple and serving the music but there are many examples of “simple” drummers: Steve Jordan, Ash Soan, Stanton Moore, Nate Smith… so many. Fortunately “under”playing never goes out of fashion!
What happened to standard burgers? Why do they need to be embellished with cheese and bacon? Fried eggs or avocado slices? It's almost to the point of cliche now, and unless you're eating like this you're looked at as boring, simple, uncultured swine. Why can't everything be bland? Why are we allowed exceptionally good things?
mate im no content creator but i think this may help you.. how do you think watching a guy that is watching a video he finds boring comes across to the audience? shit content is shit content brotha and these comments arent salty they are constructive criticism dont have to gaslight the audience for not liking it lmao
@@AlessandroSpenga i don't know if english is your second language but you don't seem to be understand anything people are telling you. i didnt dislike your video because you had criticism towards the drummer, i disliked the video because it was boring to watch a drummer give no value to the original video as we expect from a drummer reacts video. youre a broken record saying to respect your opinion, well you should respect our opinion that your video was shite. theres a reason why your videos and bands arent popular, you cant blame the audience forever champ
@Ulalaboy You subscribed to youtube on Jan 17th 2024. I guess you felt the urge to comment on this video? By reading all the negative comments (not all of them are negative... ) I noticed a clear path... People (or, should I say ST fans?) are triggered by the word "boring" in the thumb, and I think they didn't watch the video. I actually said positive things about the drummer (apart from his snare sound and some overplaying, but I guess it's fair to have contrasting opinions on something, isn't it?). After 40 minutes, I felt like it was enough so I scrolled to the end. I think the way Drumeo edited this one was a bit boring (again, not the music, the video itself... further prove you didn't watch). Personally, if I don't like something I just click away. I rarely use the dislike button, unless the creator is really spreading bad advices that might hurt people or clickbaiting exessively. But I understand some people feel better by critisicing others. I decided to change the thumbnail; I'm curious to see if people will approach to this with with a different mentality and actually LISTEN. Maybe I can avoid rude comments like yours: - "i don't know if english is your second language but you don't seem to be understand anything people are telling you." Offensive... - "i disliked the video because it was boring to watch a drummer give no value to the original video as we expect from a drummer reacts video." Incorrect; I commented POSITIVELY to what II said several times (proof you didn't watch). - "theres a reason why your videos and bands arent popular, you cant blame the audience forever champ". very offensive on purpose. I'm sorry, what's your name? PS I noticed other videos on my channel got disliked after posting this one... very mature!
go after a guys account age, cuz people dont make new accounts ever.. Ive been on here since early 2000s on many accounts.. you suck and should quit.. you let that 1k mouth breather fan base get to your head quick..@@AlessandroSpenga
@@HailTheApocalypse The point is that you didn't have to say his name at all. It's easy to see why you did it. At least let the people who still love the mystery of it all go through a comment section without some dink ruining it for them.
If you want a really good sleep token song that hits you in the feels with ease: Bloodsport (from the room below). If you want a band similar to Sleep Token try the new October Ends song Damaged. You're welcome
The comments: oh no, we watched a reaction video and got mad that someone reacted honestly 😂😂 Yes, as Sleep Token fans, we watch these videos in hopes to see others fall in love with them as we have, but that's not going to be the case every time. Every one has different tastes, ST is not going to be everyone's cup of tea.
After posting this video, some ST fans went on and disliked other videos on my channel 😒
That has to be taken in account when dealing with YT users. Nevertheless let me give you an advice, of course absolutely personal and that shouldn't affect you too much:
This is a drummer reaction video to a particularly skilled other dummer, whether you like it or not his style or the music, you should at least consider to give your judgement on technical skills, otherwise you result boring because you were bored. I mean man, don't do reaction videos like this if you don't want to get deeper into others' style of drumming. It's kinda useless to watchers and on the long run for your channel.
My personal memory I'll have of this video?
"Maan, I don't like that snare"
Being italian too, the only reply that came to my mind was "Esticazzi?"
Don't take it personally, just a suggestion. Keep up the good work and good luck.
If that snare drum were to run for president, I'd vote for it. Perfection.
Take a shot every time he complains about the snare drum. Got the point
Had to make sure 👍
Men I just had 28 shots of vodka and its 9:14 am... I shouldn't of read your comment before starting the video... now im sh***faced I had to stop the video halfway... 1 I got annoyed has F, 2 im hammered...
I'm lit
II's snare drum sound = heaven
Love this band. Can’t wait to see them blow up even more. II is the goat of drumming.
Im a huge fan so im deffo biased but II is genuinely one of the best modern drummers ive ever seen. His fills and general technique are off the charts.
Great drumming 👌🏼boring analyse 🥱
click away, thanks
Aowkaowkaowk 😂 @@AlessandroSpenga
@@AlessandroSpengayou could’ve just clicked away from the video too but you chose to react. Now we’re reacting to you. See how that works?
II leaves a very nice amount of spaces in their songs. But when he plays, he plays. Its just their style of music.
So i dont think he's drumming is too much.
Theres a reason they are the hottest band out there right now
You just came off super jelly to me
Ok
I think you are envious😮
🤦♂️
The high tuned snare drums are the best part. I could care less about anything you said after that.
I kindly, completely disagree ✌
if you've ever heard of deftones than you would know he was inspired by the drummer of that band for the tuning of the snare drum@@AlessandroSpenga
@@AUmica01 I've been listening to a lot of nu metal and alternative music since hi school (20 years ago). I still do.
Couldn't *
@@infam0usalal184 could*
I'm a sleep token fan. But I like that you express your honest opinion. This is the reaction.
Happy to learn not all ST fans are haters.
I personally love his snare sound, but everyone has their own opinion. He has lots of groove and intricacies and fills. Very unique drummer. My favorite. Check out some more Sleep Token. They are my favorite band and are extremely talented and unique.
I have listened to the album and actually really liked it. Snare sound better in the album in my opinion. Drum parts are nice but maybe a bit overplayed for my taste. Overall a really cool band. Many people judge way too soon and harshly before they get the point.
@@AlessandroSpenga everyone has a right to their own opinion and taste in music.
Lol mate, you opened a can of worms with your comments. But fair play for being honest. If we all liked the same thing, it would be a boring world. If you listen to the actual tracked music, it's not as busy as it is in this video.
Man I genuinely had no idea all this was going to happen 😅 To be fair, I never said I didn't like the music. People keep freaking out, but I think they didn't really pay attention. Thumbnail was enough to trigger them, my bad, maybe! The video overall felt boring to me but the music was nice, and I loved the vocals especially. I did listen to their latest album and I liked it 👍
In response to some of your comments, my opinion is that the higher tuned snare cuts through the mix better to feel the flow and bounce of the song, and although the drum parts are quite busy, they never feel overplayed or cluttered.
I’d say that’s debatable. The snare drum sounds lower tuned on the album and I thinks that sounds way better. Very high tuned snare drums loose power. Yes it’s very audible because of the super high pitch but they lack of body, as the shell doesn’t resonate much. Hi tunings will choke up the drum. I used to run a recording studio, I have personally experimented with a number of recording settings and super high tuned snare drums always lost in a A/B test. Hi tuning is fine but within reason.
With regards to the drum parts, there’s no right or wrong. You say the busy parts he plays never feel overplayed. I feel the exact opposite. I see our instrument as a foundation.
But thanks for your polite comment. Too many aggressive and desperate people in this chat.
@@AlessandroSpenga While I say you are right with the tuning at times, I also prefer a lower tuning on my drums to fill out the wall of sound, I understand why it has been pitched up in this setting. I would usually agree with the drums being the foundation of the track, but I've noticed sleep token tend to use the bass and guitars for this and leave the drums to be more of a focal point alongside the vocals as a more 'stand-out' feature of the tracks which I think is important for the styles they play and the transitions, you need to be feeling the flow of the song to get the same impact from the changes and with playing intricate feels and time signatures (like a triplet feel over a 4 signature) I think the busier drums pull the ear and keep you in time better.
As a big sleep token fan, I genuinely appreciate your feedback on the drums. not everyone is going to like the same stuff but kudos to for expressing your opinions 🖤🖤
Thank you 🙏
It's the reverb coming off the snap on the snare. Makes it more aggressive.
We don't have the same tastes and not everyone has good taste and we have to respect that, but that snare drum is the best I've ever heard, it cuts through the music and fits the music superbly. fu***ng amazing.
Snare drum sounds are subjective too. Just like guitar tones 🙌
Every very other element from the drums and vocals in their music is a pad or a melodic rhythmic element and what makes II stand out as a drummer is his ability to be the connecting factor between those. The listener never loses the beat in his patterns, and he accents every note because nothing would stand out otherwise. If he didn’t take attention to finding those accents the instrumentals would be mostly uninteresting with no forward motion, and the sections blend in to one another. His busy work certainly throws off more traditional backbeat drumming camps.
If you think a drummer has to accent every single note it means the guitars, bass and keys aren’t strong enough.
Anyways, a lot of you people commenting don’t seem to have watched the video; I said many good things about II and I enjoyed the music.
I simply think some of the parts are too much FOR MY PERSONAL TASTE 🤝
And the drumeo video I think was boring the way they presented it…
Oh, and that snare drum sounds horrible 🤣
Guys, be mature and RESPECT EVERYONES OPINION✌️
Drummer hearing someone who destroys him causing him to cope and seeth. Lol. Just worship!
Ahah… no.
There was a great opportunity to analyse some drum parts even if you didn't personally enjoy them. Instead, you spent the whole video whining about a highly tuned snare drum and that he plays too much for your taste. As a drummer myself, I love watching and taking inspiration from all kinds of music that I'd never have on my playlist because there are gems everywhere. You didn't notice or comment on anything other than "groove". Waste of time
I actually did. I watched over 40 minutes of this video and some things I enjoyed, some I didn’t. That’s my opinion, you don’t have to agree with me 🙌
@TJ-wz8it Well said.
It's fine to have a different taste and not liking something, it's the bitching and moaning about it that did it for me personally and many others it seems, well that and the "boring" part, skipping parts of the video. If it's so unbearable that you have to call it boring and skip a chunk of the video to be done with it faster then, why post it in the first place. I get it, engagement farming is both applied to positive and negative comments, likes/dislikes while capitalising on the popularity of the band. Odd.
If that's the type of content this channel wants to put out, flagging it as "not interesting" or "irrelevant" seems like a good choice.
This dude kills his Nickelback covers, tho...
The problem with your comment about II playing "too many notes" for your liking is that, in Sleep Token, the drums are meant to standout and act as a focal point along with the vocals, as, unlike most other bands, their songs aren't typically written to highlight any guitar parts.
It’s just personal opinions mate. I’m 100% sure the song would sound great even without all those notes. I used to run a recording studio and have been writing music and producing for years. I have some experience to say that.
@@AlessandroSpengayou’re not on sleep tokens level, mate.
The snare is set high for a reason
Man I just said I don’t like it. Whatever the reason is, won’t change my mind
@@AlessandroSpenga cuz your gay
@AlessandroSpenga you remind me of all those women that get beat by their man but won't leave cause 'they love him.'
I like all.snare sounds. It's why I play on my e-kit more these days. I can change it's sound in less than a second.
There's a reason why this guy is making cover videos on UA-cam and the one he's criticizing plays stadiums and big arenas.
Man, this fanbase is hilarious 🤣
We all have our personal tastes. It’s just nice that you can have your criticisms but also admit that Sleep Token are talented musicians. A lot of people like to pretend that the band is absolute garbage because they don’t personally enjoy their sound.
Absolutely!
There's a difference between being technically proficient and good. Steve Vai, Malmsteen, Satriani, while technical players, are totally unlistenable for more than a few seconds. Just like the thousands of UA-cam "virtuosos." How about you play something I can feel instead of playing something that will wow me, because flashy musicians are a dime a dozen.
@@kiillabytez and is your claim that ii isn’t a good/listenable player? Because I totally disagree. He doesn’t overplay and sets a groove within each song
@@kiillabytez totally agree
@@brandonb.5304 That's a misinterpretation. I said in this video that anyone tries to find his/her own voice; II definitely found his own and that's him. Obviously, it doesn't mean anyone has to enjoy his playing 🤝I personally didn't. Sorry if that disappoints you, but that's my opinion.
I would have wished to see a bit more comments from you about his playing apart from the sound of the snare drum or the too busy playing you didn't enjoyed as well. It's all taste and I don't blame you for not liking it, I would just have wished from a drummer to get more comments about the drumming for example about different patterns, drum kit, cymbals, ...
Again it's also just taste how I feel about your video 😉
I actually did comment on all the things you listed, especially when he talked about chops, stickings and composing.
@@AlessandroSpengahe said more. As in you could have given positive information 9 of the ten times you reminded us his snare wasn't your favorite sound.
He's basically saying you said it ONCE. No need to beat a dead horse, right.
If doesn’t matter “who” they are - and that’s what makes them REAL - the music is incredible because of the artists that they are, not the artists that we think they are.
Just start the journey of magnificent sleep token and enjoy it.❤
I actually enjoy their music, and I’ve said many times in this video. I simply don’t really love his drumming to death, like every ST fan, apparently. My opinion
This video should be titled I hate all drumming that is not my preferred style. Now listen to me complain for awhile.
That’s exactly how I’d title most of ST fans comments. “I hate anyone who doesn’t praise my favorite band”
At least you like vessels voice, eh, hahaha.
He won prices so it's fine, we're not all hurt by your opinions, he's a beast nonetheless, personal preferences aside.
Snare drum just satisfying, honestly.
i read every comment lol. i love this band, every element about them hits me just right, however i get not everyone likes the snare or some overplaying, there are tons of songs where underplaying is used verry well. my favorite drum track is hypnosis. the groove i find very hypnotic and engaging. you should do another sleep token video and see if the response is an different
Thanks for your kind manners, man! That's absolutely fine! I've been a fan of prog music for years actually, I know the genre very very well, trust me. To me, personally, this didn't seem like something so outstanding, never seen before. That being said, I actually like their last album, it's really cool! I wasn't too impressed with II's drumming TBH, I can't understand how that's an actual problem for some people 😅 Anyways, might try again in the future! Thanks again for your comment 🤘
This snare drum is the best I ever heard
You only heard this snare drum
@@AlessandroSpengawow that's just ignorant straw man stuff
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I think the reason people are so critical of this video isn't because you don't like the style, there are plenty of Sleep Token reactions where the creator doesn't like them that don't have this kind of backlash, but that it's of the absence of addressing any technical abilities. A lot of musicians watch these reactions to hear other peoples takes on the skills. Regardless of whether you're into it or not, II is incredibly talented and uses techniques that any of us drummers would benefit from studying. Personally, I would have liked to hear your criticisms on his skills, as well as what you might have found impressive, or even relate/compare his style to yours. Something people can learn from. Without that, the tone of the video does have a bit of a "I don't like this so that makes it boring and unimpressive" vibe. I watched the video twice and I don't think it's your intention at all, but if you translate that vibe to any situation it gives a sense of (for lack of better words) just being mean and petty. I doubt many viewers have thought that through, so they are reacting strongly and defensively to that vibe, not really the opinion. There's my take as a musician and someone who work in the field of psychology haha.
With that being said, sorry that people are trashing on you rather than providing their feedback in a respectful way. You don't deserve that. I would love to see another Sleep Token reaction video (or even a redo or the rest of this one) to hear your analytical perspective on them, specifically on II's drumming, and look forward to seeing more videos in the future. Best of luck!!!
Beautiful comment!
No, indeed what you described wasn’t my intention at all. I honestly don’t mind salty comments, I truly listen to this music for the first time in this video and what you see was my honest reaction. Had no idea what to expect and, what can I say… I wasn’t impressed by his drumming.
I started listening to ST after this and I particularly like “chokehold”. I really enjoy how he plays on that one. The rest to me feels a bit too overplayed, I can’t change my mind.
This comes from someone who used to overplay and I’ve learned to keep myself under control and serve the music. Also, as a former recording studio owner, I’ve produced bands and guided them from a demo to a polished album. Guess what most of my “psychology” work on them was based on… serving the music! You achieve that through sound design, accents, slight variations in tone and melody, but most of the problems I encountered were related to overplaying. So I guess I’ve learned to really find a meaning to every note a musician plays. I don’t listen to music as a drummer, rather as a “normal” listener.
Clearly, many people disagree here; II’s playing doesn’t sound like overplaying at all to many. I’d say it all comes down to your musical background.
Anyways, I’d like to sequel this video and talk about this topic and share my ideas… and I’ll also make a drum cover of sleep token, to see if they change their mind 🤣
As a Sleep Token fan, I appreciate honest reaction and discussion as done here. I see no need for negative comments. The saying "de gustibus non est disputandum" still applies here. The way people, and drummers on this channel, learn is by having a healthy discussion on the style and technique of the drummer. The style depends on the person, their music taste, and it will be different for every person. Bashing someone for their personal preferences is unnecessary and does not serve anyone. Be respectful to the creator and to people who want to learn and hear others' opinions and ideas. Would you bash II if he said that country-style drumming is not his thing or if he said that the Bad Omens fill he would do differently? Grow up people.
Love this one man, thank you for sharing wisdom! It was needed on this video thread!
I love Sleep Token but I also love a WIDE diversity of genres including music from different countries/languages. I also dislike my share. I love a good honest review. With that out of the way lol, I LOVE a high tuned snare for some reason, it just hits my ear right, however, there are absolutely songs where it wouldn't' really fit.
Loved the review/reaction!
Tanks for your polite approach. I can tell by experience snare drum tuning can make or break a song. In my opinion a lower tuned snare drum would fit their style much better. In fact, on the actual album they used a lower tuning.
Some drummers also prefer a much higher tuning for live because it’s easier to play. Depends on what you play though. Personally I don’t like a table top tight feel at all, too bouncy and responsive, almost like a practice pad, which feels nothing like a snare drum.
Opinions. But it’s nice that not everyone is a fuming ST fan in this thread 😅
It would be interesting to hear your renditions of these songs so we can hear how you think they should have been played. As someone who doesn't play drums, I do not understand the whole snare thing you are talking about so it would be really cool to hear your version and how it differs.
Would be cool to try 👌
If you want a really good sleep token song that hits you in the feels with ease: Bloodsport (from the room below). If you want a band similar to Sleep Token try the new October Ends song Damaged. You're welcome
I’m so surprised by the comments here. We ST fans gravitate to these reactions to share in experiencing the newness with reactors, but the hate is a hard pass in the comments. Full respect for your input and your analyzation. We do not all have the same taste or the same opinions and that’s OKAY. Thank you for the video 🖤✨🌙 worship.
Sleep Token are God Tier, leave the brother alone, he's getting knocked out by most comments..,
🤣 that explains everything
If you also notice he has 4 moon gels on his 6 inch tom. That more weird that the tuning of his snare
unlucky bro, better go listen to some G n R or acdc or metallica or something xD
Did you actually watch the video or just the thumbnail?
no, nobody did.. thats why everyone said you suck within 2 minutes@@AlessandroSpenga
Vessel's got his hooks in another...
You should see the summoning video from drumeo
Isn’t that extracted from this one?
@@AlessandroSpenga No, it's their biggest song and was released before the full video. It contains an incredible drum solo (not in the studio version, but that he plays live). Just for the complexity of it all, it is worth checking out. Its like the ultimate display of II's skills, especially ghost notes and groove.
At least he loves the voice. Which who the hell doesn’t. He has a beautiful voice. But if you don’t like a certain part of a song or the band in all, there is certainly nothing wrong. We’re all bound to like other styles that others may not like
Totally reasonable
Calls ii boring, But post covers of Lincoln Park, U2, and Nickelback. 😂😂😂😂. Apparently your marketing skills surpass your taste by creating some engagement on your video by riling up a rabid fan base. It worked on me, lol
Man if I only knew how rabid and rude this fanbase is I would have never made this video.
@@AlessandroSpenga bro, all your covers are in 4/4, and you call this guy “boring”. Who’s the rude one? 🤣🤦🏻♂️
It’s like saying the videos of me snowboarding in Alaska are boring while you’re going down a bunny hill.
@@ddodarell Boring because I play 4/4 music 🤣 Really do people still argue about this shit?
@@AlessandroSpenga I’m guessing English is your second language, so I’ll ask you to read my analogy again, because if the only thing you pulled out of it was me calling you boring, you completely missed the point. Either that, or your narcissism won’t let you. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ddodarell 🤣you had a bad day buddy? chill out man ✌It's just a video on youtube
Got fed up of this review
Then don’t watch it 🤷♂️
I always loving seeing varied opinions of the band! I really connect with the bands music- love the comparison to tesseract- i always tell people who like sleep token they should check out tesseract😂
Yeah, I love TesseracT. I heard Jay after ii and his snare reminds me of ii's sound. ❤
I’m a diehard ST fan, but goddamn people need to calm down😂
So true
You made own sleep Token band and tuned your snare lower
Did
Here is a ROUGH breakdown of your video…since you comment so much about respecting opinions…here’s mine. I even have a little challenge at the end for you(;
22sec in- first opinion of high tuned snare and accents/fillers-
1:18- second complaint about snare
1:23- third snare complaint
1:30- first opinion with clout
2:49- another comment about fillers/accents/notes
3:40 first compliment(other than vocal compliment)
3:49- another complaint on too much fillers/accents
5:10- first advice/constructive criticism
6:15-6:50 another complaint about the snare drum that lasted 35sec
7:15 complaint/opinion about playing style
7:18 another complaint about fillers/too many notes
8:35 second advice/constructive criticism
10:10- third advice/constructive criticism
11:13- 4th compliment
11:50- 5th compliment/advice/constructive criticism
12:33- 6th compliment/advice/constructive criticism
12:45 7th compliment/advice/constructive criticism
12:58- another fills problem
13:02- boring video complaint??
1418- another accent/fillers complaint
14:39- another snare complaint
14:58 another snare complaint
15:10 bored complaint
15:34- bored complaint
All in all-
You had 3 compliments throughout and they were only said 3-4times the entire video never about ii just the sound of the song, and the vocals.
Next you had 2 complaints said about 15 different times. You probably spent about 4-5min just complaining about the same two things.
And the boring comments about the video being boring? Ok cause yours was SUPER entertaining.
People will hear what you talk about the most. You spent the vast majority of your speaking/talking moments just complaining about the same two things. Tells me you don’t actually know how to break something down and give feedback. It’s like when people can only use the word “literally”. Their vernacular is not well matured.
Here’s my challenge…make a video where YOU cover one of THEIR songs and show us what you’d do differently. You know, since you have so much recording, composing, and UA-cam credibility. Then, let people react to YOUR cover and see what the people actually think…you won’t though lol. Why? To scared to back himself up.
Every time this fanbase surprises me… was it really necessary to write such a long and detailed comment?
@@AlessandroSpengahe's showing you how it's done. Took him 5 seconds to break down your video 1000 times more accurately and with less personal opinion than your troll video.
Added chapters:
2:58 Inspirations
4:08 Vocabulary
7:47 Influences
9:21 Eric Moore and Phrasing
I wonder if he likes the snare drum
Very, very much
To the uploader: the drumeo video was 100% fan service, it might have heen worthwhile to check out a few of their songs before deepdiving on his playing. Having said that, you didn't really enjoy the playing, and you said as much. Dont let toxic people get to you.
To my fellow ST fans: ii just took home Metal drummer OTY, album OTY, and overall drummer OTY. ST is selling out small arenas. He doesn't need an army of people harsssing his critics.
And finally, the snare sound is *chefs kiss* 😊
Fair enough. It wouldn’t be a true reaction if was “prepared”. I watched the video for the first time with my camera on.
I don’t mind critics. I made my point clear and gave a honest opinion.
@@AlessandroSpenga I think you're missing my point. There are dozens of diehard ST fans who did genuine reactions to the Drumeo video. The novelty of it, again was that it was the first interview a member of ST has done, and a chance to see more of a band that is as secretive as they come. If you had no idea who they are and what their deal is, that critical part of the reaction process is missing. What you did, by not listening to any of their prior work, is the equivalent to reacting to a behind-the-scenes special about some blockbuster movie before actually watching the movie.
You seem to revel in finding disagreement and contention in most all of the comments on your video, but I'll save you the trouble by letting you know I won't be returning to this one, so, no need. Good luck with your channel, but I'll be making sure YT doesn't recommend any more of your content to me. Cheers
@@Kira-qc4qihit the nail on the head!
Basic ass drummer criticizing a god!!!
Ahahah GOD drummers are other people man 👍
Not the album snare sound!
Album sounds much better
So what you're saying is you don't like the snare drum.
Maybe you just watched 60 sec of this video…
@@AlessandroSpengayou literally spent 4 entire minute BITCHING about things that are an artistic choice when you could have been professional. I'll look forward to their next album, tour, and movie cameos and I'll forget about you and your 'critisisms' 😂
"Drummer thinks other drummer plays too much drums" Should be the title 😂 maybe Metallica would suit you better
That Title would fit perfectly
super funny to see people freak out because someone doesn't like the band as fully as they do lol, personally i like the drumming because its busy and sounds fresh to me, and that snare...just scratched that part of my brain, love it. It is nice to hear someone with a different opinion though and be honest for a change instead of overreacting in enjoyment for a youtube video just for views.
the studio versions snare doesn't sound as high as it does here in my opinion.
Agree
That bloody snare really got ya, eh? 😁 I assume the mixing adds to that sharp sound, aswell. I personally like higher tuned snare drums, but on their records (and live), they sound better. Here they are a bit too sharp in the mix. Oh and my world does not crumble into pieces, if someone doesn't like it. That's normal, tastes are different. Your reaction to this video is nothing I would give a downvote. And ST became a big part of my life, a very big one even. Not everone will fall in love or has to. 😅 Oh, and a snare sound I think is really tasty is that of Nic Pettersen's (Northlane). In his videos (especially the Hologram-Playthrough) it sounds just marvellous. Regarding the video itself, I feel what you mean with boring, but I don't know how to describe it in words. Since I'm a big fan of his playing style, it didn't bother me. But to be honest, if I had no connection to the drummer, his band, style, whatsoever... I don't know if I would have watched the video in full.
Nice comment man, thanks. By “boring” I mean the way the video was presented and edited. After watching it I realized it was probably put together for ST fans more than else.
If you compare it with Portnoy’s videos… well I honestly didn’t know what to expect but watched almost the whole video.
Btw I understand the influence of deftones but to me a very high pitched snare drums doesn’t fit well in the mix with modern detuned guitars/bass (I used to run a studio and do mixing, so I have some experience on that).
Anyways, sounds way better on the record.
@@AlessandroSpenga You're welcome =) - Yes. I feel that. The energy some people bring with them, resonates in interviews, videos, etc. too. I always enjoyed wactching the making of documentation about Dream Theaters album "Systematic Chaos". Mike is wonderful character, I really like him. So, yeah, II on the other hand appears totally different in this video, hence the masks, lore and stuff. I think the video with II carries this certain vibe of distance, which may feel very strange to non-ST-fans. And that's absolutely understandable.
I mix music and record stuff inside my home studio for many years, too, but not on a professional level. Now I want to test that. I can imagine, the high pitched snares can make the sound pretty thin and hard to handle / stand out.
You lost me at the snare drum. The snare tone is the best thing about his drumming
kindly disagree
I swear I like sleep token but the bands fan base is so protective and just straight up has some weirdos. Good video man!
Thanks man! Disappointing most only listen to criticism but I actually said many good things.
Nobody likes to watch someone not enjoy themselves
No, people don’t enjoy honest reactions.
Forse il punto di non incontro è che proietti il suo modo di suonare sul tuo quindi ti vedi a suonare nei brani e non accompagneresti così oppure avresti un'accordatura diversa per avere un altro suono ma in questo caso non sarebbero più gli stessi. Da chitarrista, se cambi il suono della batteria o batterista cambia l'identità del brano...forse l'aspetto "nuovo" del gruppo è mischiare metal (deftones in primis) al pop e r&b (ed ecco i gospel chops e simili) e tutto verte su voce e batteria, gli altri strumenti alla fine aiutano solo a costruire l'atmosfera di ogni singola parte di un brano.
Non sono un loro fan sfegatato, alcune canzoni sono proprio belle, altre proprio no...però il suono della batteria è top, pur piacendomi anche un suono più ciccione diciamo così...alla fine sta proprio se ti piace il genere o meno 😊👋
Ciao, innanzi tutto ti ringrazio per i toni educati (finalmente qualcuno😆)! Personalmente vedo tantissimo hype dietro questa band ma non mi sembra una cosa mai vista. Band in maschera e anonime ce ne sono già state e mescolare metal con altri generi "pop" è roba va indietro di quasi 30 anni (nu metal, ad esempio). Quindi, il concetto in sé non è la novità, bensì il sound, che è bello cazzuto. I brani mi sono piaciuti in realtà, specialmente l'ultimo album; voce bellissima (penso sia la loro particolarità). In generale non mi ha particolarmente colpito il drumming di II. L'utilizzo di gospel chops e grove sincopati fu reso celebre da band come Periphery e Animals As Leaders; parliamo di più di 10 anni fa. Lui ha il suo sound, la sua personalità e funziona per loro, quindi va bene così. Ma queste sono cose che ho detto nel video.
Sia chiaro non voglio sminuire e penso che questo sia stato fortemente frainteso.
La gente commenta senza sapere chi ha davanti; io sono musicista da 30 anni e sono anche stato produttore, i miei lavori sono pubblicati. Inoltre da sempre fan dei generi prog. Metà della mia discografia sono band prog: Gentle Giant, Spock's Beard, DT, OSI, Transatlantic, Nel Morse, Porcupine Tree, Periphery, AAL, Tesseract e altri... direi che non è la prima volta che ascolto musica prog...
Comunque, ti ringrazio per il commento! Mi fa piacere che anche i connazionali seguano questi video in lingua Inglese!
@@AlessandroSpenga Ma figurati...io odio i social proprio perché invece di confrontarsi ci si insulta e basta come allo stadio e ho capito benissimo che non sminuivi niente e nessuno.
Tranquillo si capisce che sei molto competente, infatti alla fine il discorso si riduce sempre se una band, genere o musicista piace e questo è soggettivo, ovviamente se il prodotto è di qualità.
Infatti ho scritto nuovo virgolettato perché prima del nu metal ci furono Faith no more, 24-7 spyz, Rhcp, ecc che fecero crossover tra i vari generi e come dici tu sia per un discorso di genere musicale che stile di II in realtà di nuovo non c'è nulla (se non le basi trap). Secondo me ciò che differenzia II da Garstka e Halpern (oltre a quello che fanno vedere stilisticamente e tecnicamente nei loro rispettivi gruppi) è che gli Sleep Token sono molto più pop e molto meno intricati degli altri gruppi citati e riescono ad arrivare a più persone, sono riusciti a crearsi un immagine e hype, ecc. Alla fine lui stesso dice di sentirsi un Abe Cunningham più giovane e quindi tutto ciò che ne consegue stilisticamente, a me in alcune piccole cose (e soprattutto come idea di accompagnare) un po' Gavin Harrison II me lo ricorda, ovviamente senza toccare le sue vette creative e tecniche al momento.
Grazie a te della risposta altrettanto pacata 😊👋
It was honest yes. But you kinda mentioned you were bored a billion times and hated the snare even more. You even claim EVERYONE you know ask you to crank your snare up.
Sometimes they need to pop.
I'm just glad not many share your opinion. The world would be a borning place.
I truly made the effort of watching almost the entire video because I wanted to be honest. And at one point I couldn’t help saying how bored I was (that’s a very long video).
Next time I’m not going to be honest. I won’t watch a video “actually” for the first time and react to it. I’ll make sure I’ll watch the video first to decide wether is worth reacting or not.
I understand spectators only enjoy reactions when you are amazed by something.
The butt hurt people over someone’s opinion on his snare is hilarious! I love sleep token but some of their fans are idiotic
Never said I didn’t like the music. I did like it. I just don’t particularly enjoyed his drum parts. I find them a bit too busy but my opinion.
"Ohh no what did I do wrong that Im here "reacting" to other FAMOUS people's video" type of attitude! I can 100% tell that you're from Roma... anyways Peppino Spaghetti, hopefully you will find something to un-bore you because you sound like you dislike funny cat videos! Arrivederci!
🤣 mate you should host your own comedy show
Well I am mad at you
🤣 ok
You're more of a complainer than you are a drummer. Bet ur channel grows real fast.
Did I hurt your feelings? 😅
@@AlessandroSpenga Aaaand prove my point harder.
At last there is somebody out there who doesn't praise them into heaven
🤣 they seem to be very idolized by their fans. I had never heard of them before. I might end up joining the praising community 😅
I think they are mediocre at best and a lot of better bands that have more listenable songs than their offerings
@@kiillabytezI actually have been listening to the latest album and I really like it!
@@kiillabytez It's fine not to like them (or any band) but to say they are "mediocre at best" is just silly. I don't particularly like a lot of bands and still recognize that they are very good on a technical level.
Whatr happened to standard Drumming? Why does everything need to be embelleshed with synchopated accents and fills? It's almost to the point of cliche now, and unless you're playing like this you aren't even considered as being talented anymore.
I agree on playing simple and serving the music but there are many examples of “simple” drummers: Steve Jordan, Ash Soan, Stanton Moore, Nate Smith… so many. Fortunately “under”playing never goes out of fashion!
What happened to standard burgers? Why do they need to be embellished with cheese and bacon? Fried eggs or avocado slices? It's almost to the point of cliche now, and unless you're eating like this you're looked at as boring, simple, uncultured swine. Why can't everything be bland? Why are we allowed exceptionally good things?
Odd thing to complain about someone not being generic 😂
Some salty comments by Sleep Token fans here? 😅 Did I piss you off guys? Please respect everyone's opinion.
mate im no content creator but i think this may help you.. how do you think watching a guy that is watching a video he finds boring comes across to the audience? shit content is shit content brotha and these comments arent salty they are constructive criticism dont have to gaslight the audience for not liking it lmao
@@Ulalaboyso, if I react to something and I’m not impressed, then my content is shit? Your criticism is constructive, my criticism is shit? 🤔
@@AlessandroSpenga i don't know if english is your second language but you don't seem to be understand anything people are telling you. i didnt dislike your video because you had criticism towards the drummer, i disliked the video because it was boring to watch a drummer give no value to the original video as we expect from a drummer reacts video.
youre a broken record saying to respect your opinion, well you should respect our opinion that your video was shite. theres a reason why your videos and bands arent popular, you cant blame the audience forever champ
@Ulalaboy You subscribed to youtube on Jan 17th 2024. I guess you felt the urge to comment on this video?
By reading all the negative comments (not all of them are negative... ) I noticed a clear path... People (or, should I say ST fans?) are triggered by the word "boring" in the thumb, and I think they didn't watch the video. I actually said positive things about the drummer (apart from his snare sound and some overplaying, but I guess it's fair to have contrasting opinions on something, isn't it?). After 40 minutes, I felt like it was enough so I scrolled to the end. I think the way Drumeo edited this one was a bit boring (again, not the music, the video itself... further prove you didn't watch).
Personally, if I don't like something I just click away. I rarely use the dislike button, unless the creator is really spreading bad advices that might hurt people or clickbaiting exessively. But I understand some people feel better by critisicing others.
I decided to change the thumbnail; I'm curious to see if people will approach to this with with a different mentality and actually LISTEN.
Maybe I can avoid rude comments like yours:
- "i don't know if english is your second language but you don't seem to be understand anything people are telling you." Offensive...
- "i disliked the video because it was boring to watch a drummer give no value to the original video as we expect from a drummer reacts video." Incorrect; I commented POSITIVELY to what II said several times (proof you didn't watch).
- "theres a reason why your videos and bands arent popular, you cant blame the audience forever champ". very offensive on purpose. I'm sorry, what's your name?
PS I noticed other videos on my channel got disliked after posting this one... very mature!
go after a guys account age, cuz people dont make new accounts ever.. Ive been on here since early 2000s on many accounts.. you suck and should quit.. you let that 1k mouth breather fan base get to your head quick..@@AlessandroSpenga
Adam sounds great with that voice modulator. And if you like the singer so much, you should check out Blacklit Canopy.
Is Adam the singer?
@@AlessandroSpenga he's the drummer. Adam Pedder. Leo Faulkner is the singer.
We get it, you know who the members are, bravo😂😂😂
@@jctheii i was answerin dudes question. Bravo for being so observant.
@@HailTheApocalypse The point is that you didn't have to say his name at all. It's easy to see why you did it. At least let the people who still love the mystery of it all go through a comment section without some dink ruining it for them.
Hey everyone is entitled to their opinion, no need to apologize. His snare sound is like the singer , you either love it or hate it.
First reasonable comment on this video. Thank you 🙏
If you want a really good sleep token song that hits you in the feels with ease: Bloodsport (from the room below). If you want a band similar to Sleep Token try the new October Ends song Damaged. You're welcome