and there are people enjoying watching tv show and movies through the smart phone dude always there is a sweet spot to stop on it just enjoy what you have 😁
Awesome! I have done a lot of reflective videos on the channel here about my home theater journey and the evolution of my room. Hopefully you find a lot more of use to you. Welcome to the hobby!
Great video and food for thought. I have a special situation as I’m an American living in Germany and I’m renting as I never planned on staying this long. (Arrived 2005) I actually arrived here with one of those 64’ HUGH Mitsubishi rear projection TVs. The hard part especially when it comes to equipment is hopefully our income increases as we progress in our careers and what I have no there is no way I could have afforded even if it had existed when I built my theater in 2008. And because I’m renting still I needed the 99 percent of the the work to be removable plus German houses are all concrete so there is that problem unless you build false walls and I wasn’t doing that for a rental. So with that in mind here is what I would do over. First in foremost I would build my riser higher. I actually built my room with a custom made couch for the second row and four portable reclining/rocking faux leather chairs with matching ottomans. I guess my measurements were off because if someone is sitting in the front row and are not reclined their head is blocking the screen. Now granted the first screen was a retractable 16:9 Elite tension screen so it probably wasn’t an issue but I should have still built it higher. But because there are hardly anyone besides me in there it’s never an issue. Also I should have made the riser longer than it is so the couch is not sitting directly against the back wall. I didn’t have surround backs at the time so I didn’t think about it. Luckily it’s long enough for me to pull it a couple of feet from the wall so I’m not sitting directly under them now. Secondly as far equipment goes though Blue Jeans cables didn’t exist back then I should have both higher quality and gage speaker wire. I’ve completely changed every cable out to 10 gauge Blue Jeans but had I gotten better quality in the beginning then I’m just buying new cables as I add speakers. As far as the room goes I actually treated the room with sound absorption panels and have curtains all away around because I didn’t want to paint all the walls black because I didn’t want to have to repaint them white when I left but I did get the sign-off to paint the ceiling black. Last thing and this is for the current upgrades. When I went from my 108’ 16:9 to my 133’ scope screen I should have bought an acoustically transparent screen so if I ever buy a house here and get a chance to build a false wall I wouldn’t have to rebuy the screen. Sorry for the long post again. IMO I suggest that one sits down and try to think about what they want/can afford now and what they think they may want in the future. If you have a receiver and four components but in the future you may want to go separates and amps you do yourself a huge favor if you plan on using a rack or even just a normal AV cabinet by buying the biggest you can afford and makes sense. Instead of a 12U rack buy a 20U. Somethings you will never future-proof like hdmi cables but things like speaker wire and connectors you can definitely do that because that has been the same for decades.
Very good points. Looks don't matter really when the speakers are hidden away. I wouldn't buy expensive speakers where a lot of the bill of materials is in the style and finish of the cabinet, in that case.
Great video. I love my theatre room and have no regrets. Would I change anything? Yes but not yet. For now it’s more than enough until the upgrade bug hits. Thanks for posting.
Great video I think its very important especially if its people first dedicated theatre. Yes it will cost more than you think. I use full size towers and subs behind an AT screen and I couldn't be happier. I built a platform for them so all tweeters are same height . Take time to build the room take time to consider every aspect. Its very easy to get overly excited and rush this but planning planning planning and you will find yo have compromises and knockon effects. If you use a non theatre build contractor be very specific what you need doing and write a plan and drawings for them as they won't know. Sound proofing /sound management (internal/external) this is very expensive in materials and time. It depends on what your objective is. Full soundproof requires - total decoupling from existing structure basically a room in a room, Thick layer of sound insulation , 2 doors, 2 layers drywall, resilient bar and clips , HVAC baffle tanks lots of green glue. However it will depend on your situation and if you truly need zero sound leakage. I have small brick building in my backyard , I use a room in a room , single door, 1 layer sound blocdrywall, Hvac baffle tank and decoupled everything from everything and sealed every gap I could find. there's a small amount of sound leak if your close to building I can hear it but the birds and traffic outside is louder, I can't hear it inside house and neighbours can't hear it in their yard. I'd say it won't matter what seating you choose it will have pros and cons. I went for 2 Cigar chairs and beanbags initially for flexible seating and now I'm adding a row of theatre seats. It's an evolving thing and as speakers and cables burn in the sound will change, projector calibration changes. Your requirements will change. Build in flexibility best you can and enjoy the ride.
Speakers should not go behind the screen unless you can get to at least a 50° angle. Also, most left/ right sound in movies is from sound coming from outside the screen image.
@@Techthusiasm My center is behind the screen, but o like my left/ right about 6-12 inches outside the image and toed in. (You should never aim tweeters with a swivel because it throws off the sound radiation. Outside the screen makes more visual sense with what you're seeing most of the time.
Thumbs up on the individual theater recliners. After spending my entire adult life watching TV from a couch and becoming uncomfortable after 45 minutes I really want to go with the recliners when I designed my theater. I had a bit of convincing of the wife to go with them. she had visions of some one watching sports with a beer in a Lazy boy. But once we got them and she sat down in them the first time she was sold. Not to mention the Tray and cup holder, USB charging for your phone and a place to store blankets in the arm rests. I have two rows of 3 which is perfect for two more couples for our movie nights with friends. We have a couple of bean bag chairs for when there are kids over. I also think it makes a bigger impact when people see the room as it really looks like a pro theater and not just a room for watching TV.
I have Valencia Tuscany movie seats with a love seat set up in the middle for the wife and I to cuddle up. Go for the chairs you will not regret the lost money on the couch.
Since I don’t have a dedicated Theater my equipment setup is different from yours. I really like showcasing my speakers and I like to move my speakers from time to time so installing them in the wall would be more of a hindrance for me. If I did have a screen I would definitely put the speakers behind the screen to maximize the screen’s width. I have a Theater chair and love it. Since I only needed one I bought their top of the line with every feature you can name and it’s very comfortable. I not only watch movies but I also play video games and the USB plugs comes in super handy when the battery gets weak in the controller. I just pull out the wire plug it into the chair’s usb charger and keep playing. You have a family so I completely understand you having a couch but the Theater seats do give you the ambiance of being in a real Theater outside the home! If I had a family I would be more than happy to have your beautiful Theater but I would have to have the seats! Not to mention your equipment is to die for! If I were you I wouldn’t 2nd guess anything! It all turned out perfectly!!🥳👴🏽
How do you deal with 2.0:1 content and variable aspect content that is becoming more and more popular with streaming platforms (stranger things, umbrella academy, the expanse, etc)?
Just fundamentally zoom whatever you need to fill the vertical space and as wide as that goes, it goes. I now have 3 lens memory settings (one for 16:9/4:3/etc., one for 2.35/2.40, and one in-between that I zoomed specifically for Stranger Things S4).
I personally prefer a 16:9 screen that is as wide as I need it to be for my scope then I mask sides when watching 16:9 and the opposite for scope. That way I dont compromise on size for either format. The viewing angle is crucial for immersion and impact IMO
Good video. My only issue with AT screens is that people talk about them like they are no compromise which is not true. Either way you go, AT or non AT you WILL be compromising. That is the name of the game for 99% of us. With a center, your sound will be coming below the screen so you need to make sure your center is a GOOD one that can project sound nicely and has great horizontal dispersion. Behind the screen, then you are affecting the sound although likely not an issue these days but you will be losing brightness unless you want a high gain screen which then introduces hotspots, shimmering, perforations, so you normally end up sacrificing screen size to compensate. Is all about trades.
Very true. I've found I'm happier with the pros over the cons of going AT vs. non-AT. I will be happy to get a brighter laser projector at some point though to help with the brightness trade off.
@@Techthusiasm yeah when a JVC laser projector that matches the black level and contrast of my RS640 comes out, then I will look into AT screens again. For now, there is no way I can compromise on brightness, contrast, perforations or whichever shortcomings the particular AT screen may have. My Revel C208 center projects beautifully so that sure helps me. :)
and there are people enjoying watching tv show and movies through the smart phone dude always there is a sweet spot to stop on it
just enjoy what you have 😁
Yep!
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Awesome! I have done a lot of reflective videos on the channel here about my home theater journey and the evolution of my room. Hopefully you find a lot more of use to you. Welcome to the hobby!
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Great video and food for thought. I have a special situation as I’m an American living in Germany and I’m renting as I never planned on staying this long. (Arrived 2005) I actually arrived here with one of those 64’ HUGH Mitsubishi rear projection TVs.
The hard part especially when it comes to equipment is hopefully our income increases as we progress in our careers and what I have no there is no way I could have afforded even if it had existed when I built my theater in 2008. And because I’m renting still I needed the 99 percent of the the work to be removable plus German houses are all concrete so there is that problem unless you build false walls and I wasn’t doing that for a rental.
So with that in mind here is what I would do over. First in foremost I would build my riser higher. I actually built my room with a custom made couch for the second row and four portable reclining/rocking faux leather chairs with matching ottomans. I guess my measurements were off because if someone is sitting in the front row and are not reclined their head is blocking the screen. Now granted the first screen was a retractable 16:9 Elite tension screen so it probably wasn’t an issue but I should have still built it higher. But because there are hardly anyone besides me in there it’s never an issue. Also I should have made the riser longer than it is so the couch is not sitting directly against the back wall. I didn’t have surround backs at the time so I didn’t think about it. Luckily it’s long enough for me to pull it a couple of feet from the wall so I’m not sitting directly under them now.
Secondly as far equipment goes though Blue Jeans cables didn’t exist back then I should have both higher quality and gage speaker wire. I’ve completely changed every cable out to 10 gauge Blue Jeans but had I gotten better quality in the beginning then I’m just buying new cables as I add speakers. As far as the room goes I actually treated the room with sound absorption panels and have curtains all away around because I didn’t want to paint all the walls black because I didn’t want to have to repaint them white when I left but I did get the sign-off to paint the ceiling black.
Last thing and this is for the current upgrades. When I went from my 108’ 16:9 to my 133’ scope screen I should have bought an acoustically transparent screen so if I ever buy a house here and get a chance to build a false wall I wouldn’t have to rebuy the screen.
Sorry for the long post again. IMO I suggest that one sits down and try to think about what they want/can afford now and what they think they may want in the future. If you have a receiver and four components but in the future you may want to go separates and amps you do yourself a huge favor if you plan on using a rack or even just a normal AV cabinet by buying the biggest you can afford and makes sense. Instead of a 12U rack buy a 20U. Somethings you will never future-proof like hdmi cables but things like speaker wire and connectors you can definitely do that because that has been the same for decades.
Awesome post! Helpful to folks for sure.
If I had Focals in the fronts NO way would I want to hide them...I'd want to show them off 😁.
Very good points. Looks don't matter really when the speakers are hidden away. I wouldn't buy expensive speakers where a lot of the bill of materials is in the style and finish of the cabinet, in that case.
@@Techthusiasm True...but if my front speakers were Focals or even Wilson Speakers it would be a disservice to hide them.
I agree, 100%. Some speakers are made to be seen. 👍
@@Techthusiasm I love audio porn, I could not have my Sora 2s (Blue) hidden…even my wife love the look of them.☺️
Ha, the Sopra is certainly not a speaker to hide. 😀
Great video. I love my theatre room and have no regrets. Would I change anything? Yes but not yet. For now it’s more than enough until the upgrade bug hits. Thanks for posting.
Thanks! And congrats on your room! 😄
Great video I think its very important especially if its people first dedicated theatre. Yes it will cost more than you think. I use full size towers and subs behind an AT screen and I couldn't be happier. I built a platform for them so all tweeters are same height .
Take time to build the room take time to consider every aspect. Its very easy to get overly excited and rush this but planning planning planning and you will find yo have compromises and knockon effects. If you use a non theatre build contractor be very specific what you need doing and write a plan and drawings for them as they won't know. Sound proofing /sound management (internal/external) this is very expensive in materials and time. It depends on what your objective is. Full soundproof requires - total decoupling from existing structure basically a room in a room, Thick layer of sound insulation , 2 doors, 2 layers drywall, resilient bar and clips , HVAC baffle tanks lots of green glue. However it will depend on your situation and if you truly need zero sound leakage. I have small brick building in my backyard , I use a room in a room , single door, 1 layer sound blocdrywall, Hvac baffle tank and decoupled everything from everything and sealed every gap I could find. there's a small amount of sound leak if your close to building I can hear it but the birds and traffic outside is louder, I can't hear it inside house and neighbours can't hear it in their yard.
I'd say it won't matter what seating you choose it will have pros and cons. I went for 2 Cigar chairs and beanbags initially for flexible seating and now I'm adding a row of theatre seats.
It's an evolving thing and as speakers and cables burn in the sound will change, projector calibration changes. Your requirements will change. Build in flexibility best you can and enjoy the ride.
Great comment, thanks for sharing!
Great info bruda, you lost me a 10k dho…😂🤣👀
Really like your content, keep up the great work!!
Thanks so much!
Invest in a powered masking system for your screen and you’ll have the best of both worlds
I've thought about that. It would be something way down the road after other upgrades though. Thanks for watching!
Speakers should not go behind the screen unless you can get to at least a 50° angle. Also, most left/ right sound in movies is from sound coming from outside the screen image.
In a future build, I will most likely look to get a bit more spread on my L/R positions.
@@Techthusiasm My center is behind the screen, but o like my left/ right about 6-12 inches outside the image and toed in. (You should never aim tweeters with a swivel because it throws off the sound radiation. Outside the screen makes more visual sense with what you're seeing most of the time.
Thumbs up on the individual theater recliners. After spending my entire adult life watching TV from a couch and becoming uncomfortable after 45 minutes I really want to go with the recliners when I designed my theater. I had a bit of convincing of the wife to go with them. she had visions of some one watching sports with a beer in a Lazy boy. But once we got them and she sat down in them the first time she was sold. Not to mention the Tray and cup holder, USB charging for your phone and a place to store blankets in the arm rests. I have two rows of 3 which is perfect for two more couples for our movie nights with friends. We have a couple of bean bag chairs for when there are kids over. I also think it makes a bigger impact when people see the room as it really looks like a pro theater and not just a room for watching TV.
Yep to everything!
I have Valencia Tuscany movie seats with a love seat set up in the middle for the wife and I to cuddle up. Go for the chairs you will not regret the lost money on the couch.
I'll share this comment with my wife! :)
Since I don’t have a dedicated Theater my equipment setup is different from yours. I really like showcasing my speakers and I like to move my speakers from time to time so installing them in the wall would be more of a hindrance for me. If I did have a screen I would definitely put the speakers behind the screen to maximize the screen’s width. I have a Theater chair and love it. Since I only needed one I bought their top of the line with every feature you can name and it’s very comfortable. I not only watch movies but I also play video games and the USB plugs comes in super handy when the battery gets weak in the controller. I just pull out the wire plug it into the chair’s usb charger and keep playing. You have a family so I completely understand you having a couch but the Theater seats do give you the ambiance of being in a real Theater outside the home! If I had a family I would be more than happy to have your beautiful Theater but I would have to have the seats! Not to mention your equipment is to die for! If I were you I wouldn’t 2nd guess anything! It all turned out perfectly!!🥳👴🏽
I’ll get those theater seats sometime I’m sure. 😉 C’mon Valencia, contact me LOL!
@@Techthusiasm LOL!!
How do you deal with 2.0:1 content and variable aspect content that is becoming more and more popular with streaming platforms (stranger things, umbrella academy, the expanse, etc)?
Just fundamentally zoom whatever you need to fill the vertical space and as wide as that goes, it goes. I now have 3 lens memory settings (one for 16:9/4:3/etc., one for 2.35/2.40, and one in-between that I zoomed specifically for Stranger Things S4).
I personally prefer a 16:9 screen that is as wide as I need it to be for my scope then I mask sides when watching 16:9 and the opposite for scope. That way I dont compromise on size for either format. The viewing angle is crucial for immersion and impact IMO
Good video. My only issue with AT screens is that people talk about them like they are no compromise which is not true. Either way you go, AT or non AT you WILL be compromising. That is the name of the game for 99% of us.
With a center, your sound will be coming below the screen so you need to make sure your center is a GOOD one that can project sound nicely and has great horizontal dispersion.
Behind the screen, then you are affecting the sound although likely not an issue these days but you will be losing brightness unless you want a high gain screen which then introduces hotspots, shimmering, perforations, so you normally end up sacrificing screen size to compensate.
Is all about trades.
Very true. I've found I'm happier with the pros over the cons of going AT vs. non-AT. I will be happy to get a brighter laser projector at some point though to help with the brightness trade off.
@@Techthusiasm yeah when a JVC laser projector that matches the black level and contrast of my RS640 comes out, then I will look into AT screens again. For now, there is no way I can compromise on brightness, contrast, perforations or whichever shortcomings the particular AT screen may have. My Revel C208 center projects beautifully so that sure helps me. :)