Winchester WWII 50 AT rifle
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David Marshall Williams was hired by the Winchester company in 1939, and would have a hand in a number of major projects during his 10-year stint with the company, although best known for the M1 Carbine. The Carbine was an offshoot of the Winchester G30 and G30M rifles, which would also evolve into the G30R and Winchester Automatic Rifle. Another offshoot using this same basic mechanism was this undesignated .50 BMG semiautomatic antitank rifle developed by Winchester during World War II.
This rifle, like its developmental precursors, uses a two-lug, Garand type rotating bolt and a Williams gas tappet short stroke action. It has a 10-round detachable box magazine.
Although I have not found a testing report, the gun was apparently tested by the Canadian military and performed quite well. It was never purchased or put into serial production, however, most likely because as an antitank rifle the .50 BMG cartridge was not effective by the end of World War II.
*Barrett M82:* "Who the hell are you!?"
*Winchester .50 AT rifle:* "Watch your muzzle brake, sonny, I'm old enough to be your grandfather."
Emiel Booth he’s old enough to be the great grandfather if he played his cards right!
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One of the best gun jokes I ever heard
I haven't heard many
Ok BOOMer...
the fact that ruby has a 50 cal as her weapon and that she is you profile pic makes this comment 10x better
handguards made from solid steel. it protects the rifle when the tank shoots back
The only anti-tank rifle that is a tank.
Hyperdead_Goat protects the gun but dude goes boom
ah, i thougt it was to give the gunner a little protection from enemy fire
If you out of ammunition you can still use the weapon to beat the shit out of the tank.
Why do you need more than 5 shots you think the tank is going to shoot back?
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
I am actually very impressed that the Engineers at Winchester where able to get a Semi-auto .50 down to 25 pounds in the 1940's, if I am not mistaken that makes it four or five pounds lighter than the M82.
Yet they managed to make it look like it weighs half a ton. My first reaction was "Wow, they didn't even try to save weight on that thing". But I guess the unnecessarily chunky looking parts like the bolt handle and safety lever are actually not solid chunks of steel.
Yeah, that's actually a good bit lighter than the modern Barrett .50 line.
The shoulder could have been lightened quite some (it just has to be stronger than a beefy gi´s shoulder) and the safety lever could have shed a few ounces, too. Bolt and op rod have to keep their weight for controlling recoil-
Considering the XM500 is supposed to be lighter than EITHER the M82/M107 at 26 pounds it still got it's ass beat by a gas operated (which is an inherently heavier action) rifle from the 1940's which like swiss said it looks like it weighs a ton.
Someone (doesn't matter if it's Winchester or a 3rd party) needs to make exact and lightened copies of this rifle and start selling em, the military tests proved it's a reliable weapon make it and beat everyone elses .50 rifles.
D8W2P4 The thing with that is I'm pretty sure the only thing keeping this rifle from dislocating your shoulder is said weight, since it doesn't have any of the recoil dampening measures of modern .50 rifles.
Watching Ian pull the charging handle and having that monster bolt slide back so damn smooth was oddly gratifying
What? No bayonet lug!
LOL!
this thing is so massive you can throw it at your enemys face and kill him
It *IS* a bayonet. It's just blunt and shaped like a rifle.
What? No grenade launcher? :(
hey it at least has the deadly shoulder thing that goes up and a clipazine that can shoot 30 rounds in a second....
My Dad was on the team testing this rifle for the Canadian Army in 1944. When he spoke of it there was always a lot of Scotch being consumed.
It absolutely was not without recoil. All metal construction. Enough said.
Japanese tanks.
Japanese used jungle tanks - those could be killed with .50 on a vehicle.
well observed
Still, it's not like they didn't have M2s anywhere they would have brought this thing, and I bet they would rather fully automatic .50 than semi automatic .50.
stikfigzxD This seems more man portable and you would not need to worry about the belt dragging dirt into the action.
It's kinda like BAR vs M1919.
Except the BAR is shit and this isin't
+leonardo tavares dardenne BAR wasn't bad as it was obsolete. The FN MAG partially borrowed it's designed from the BAR. The French and Polish variations were beautiful in performance.
It's the sort of gun that look like it'd be an experience to fire. The sort of 'experience' that involves a lengthy visit to the chiropractor afterwards.
A chiropractor would do more damage to you ;)
So it's a gun you only get to shoot twice?
...yeah, once for each shoulder if you forgot using your spare socks & shirts (or someone elses...,) for padding.
Just a 50bmg lots of people own .50 bmg firearm, not this one but mordern day, ii reload my .50bmg but i think around 5 bucks a shell..
I read that the Boyes could push the firer back about a yard,lying prone.
The number of m1 variants Winchester made in ww2 is astonishing.
That is without a doubt the coolest of all the antitank rifles, it’s a shame they didn’t go into production because that’s one that anyone could own without all the extra NFA paperwork
California : you can only have a capacity of 10 rounds haha!!
Me: buys this gun
.50 BMG is specifically banned in California
@@Shaun_Jones .416 barret
.416 is ballistically Superior to 50bmg anyway. Faster, better B.C. and is accurate to point of aim at longer distances.
Nico P. To be honest id rather go 50 cal then the .416
@@Shaun_Jones 458.
God, that tiny P17 rear sight looks like it doesn't know what it's doing there
no kidding
I dig the Mike Stoklasa picture
really? because I thought it was an inanimate object.
Holret _you're_ an inanimate object
+TheGoldenCaulk Ooooooh SNAP! XD
It may not have been effective against late WWII tank armor, but it would still be a helluva siege engine.
If only they'd realized the concept of anti-materiel rifles that early.
I believe this gun was designed for the Space Marines that never came to be. XD
I think i know why spacemarines AND the gears would not use it ... no chainsaw bayonet ;)
Adeptus Astartes power armor can usually withstand fire from Heavy Stubbers though. I don't think they would use weapons can't reliably pen their own
armor.
Evidence of a WWII grimdark Canadian-American super soldier program? Maybe...
Nah, this would be a nice precursor to the Bolter for humans. Bolter is 20mm
Destroyox
I hate to be that guy, but when I was a kid I read every single book (120+ novels) and piece of short fiction relating to WH40k and it's just about the least useful knowledge base it's possible to have as an adult, but Bolters are .75 calibre rifles, not 20mm cannons. There are 25+ variations on just the rifle platform within the lore, which have various differing calibres and loads.
Tbh though it's a bit of a moot point because the lore doesn't really specify the size of the rounds for the larger ordinance like the heavy bolter - which is just said to fire "fist-sized rounds" , although the smaller stuff, like the Bolt Pistol is specified to fire .50 cal rounds.
If you want any more useless info on the WH40k universe hit me up mang
This is by far one of the coolest guns reviewed here
Who'd a thunk it; an anti-tank carbine. XD
squirrel gun
Say hello to MY LITTLE FRIEND!!! ;)
Bryan Shouse damn right baby!! More reliable than the light 50. Also the same makers of the M1 Garand and the M1 carbine
A door knocker !
My Testosterone levels go way up observing and hearing the magazine inserted
You can't just throw around terms like ".30 Carbine chambered Thompson sub machine gun" without doing a video on it!
He definitely did! It's already out there but its inclusion is none the less hilarious
Bendix-Hyde?
Winchester could have called it the W.A.T. Failed opportunity there.
Lol W.A.T.
"Sullivan! The panzers are coming! Go get the gun!"
"What gun?"
"Yeah, go get it!"
"... what gun?"
"Yes, that's right."
"I'm sorry, I don't follow"
"Oh forget it, just go let that chinese guy know the tanks are coming, he knows where it is"
"Who?"
"Yeah."
This comment thread just made this entire video 100% more enjoyable.
Yes
Believe it or not, it's lighter than the Barret .50/M82. Haha.
The Barret "Light" Fifty, at 29.7 Lbs.
Jonathan Charles
It looks way lighter than this giant hunk of metal though, neh? :p
An M82 walks into the room... "Daddy, is that you?"
I think that's because of the recoil mitigation systems in the Barret
+A. Lampman But does this german rifle perform better then a m82 ?
“Semiautomatic”
“Antitank”
I am already engaged
I kind of want to see more about that 30 carbine Thompson.
That video will come.
Yay!
30 caliber Thompson? that would be cool!
Yeah, I was like "you can't just show me a .30 caliber Thompson and not talk about it." It's cool to see that a video is coming though.
Forgotten Weapons by the way what is about PTRS-41-will there be any kind of video on them?
By the way I am going to purchase one PTRS for myself!
Amazing. That gun is so boxy it looks like it was made in the 80s. I wonder if the state of American optics in WWII was good enough to be able to turn the Winchester-Williams AT rifle into a more portable very long range sniping platform than an M2. Seeing your officer or fellow gun crew member being sniped out of nowhere by a .50 BMG ought to be pretty demoralizing.
I think disintegrated instead of sniped
Let's not get into the semantics of fine red mist, shall we?
Holtz agreed
Latmover yes
Now if we want to talk demoralizing the enemy, imagine the madness that would have happened if the russians developed a sniper out of the ptrd-41. think a .50 BMG is scary, wait till you have a 14.5x105mm round blow your commanders upper body into bits.
"Ehi, i have a unique gun here. Let's use another unique gun for comparison!"
I bet a whole lot of viewers were very disappointed when they realised that this is a museum piece and not an auction lot.
I used to live in Red Lodge just an hour up North in Montana. There's a gun store there, Ian, the owner of the place is actually the son (Mike) of the person who ended up donating many of the firearms found at the Cody museum when he died. I'm sure Mike would be thrilled to meet you.
in some ways it's ahead of its time. it would have made a great sniper/anti-materiel rifle like the Barrett rifles in use today.
Holy God man, it's 50. combat rifle, in words of that one dude from Robocop "I'd buy that for a dollar!"
It's like an M82, only several decades early. A shame this didn't see more use - a lightened version could've been useful as a long-range anti-materiel/sniper rifle in Korea and Vietnam.
As far as lightening, this gun is actually lighter than the barrett m82 rifle
That's exactly what I thought. It must have been quite accurate at long ranges. And mounting it on a small reconnaissance vehicle does make some sense too.
I saw this in a book of Winchester rifles and I was always curious how it worked. They only had a one paragraph blip and a black and white photo about it. Thank you very much Ian!
I love this combination of old school, straightforward engineering and high quality machining. This one could be a nice prop in an action movie.
Damn, I was hoping you would accidentally disassemble this one, too.
That would be cool
Accidentally?
+OneTallOrder Not on purpose.
+Andrei Zedlav Not on Purpose?
Not on Purpose.
*THE TANK KILLER*
also everything is just oversized m1 carbine its so satisfying to pull that lock thing. and BIG SAFETY BUTTON
Jesus Murphy at that magazine. Also, that weight is kinda impressive. 50 BMG and it only weighs a few more lbs than a BAR.
grumpybill well,that is..So I really wonder why didn't it come to a mass production..🤔
+John Sheppard
the demand vanished with advancements in tank designs. Also germans never considered them anti _tank_ rifles, they were anti _armor_ rifles. They still can do a number on APCs.
TheArklyte agree..
By the way as I know with my personal experience in real life ground defence/attacks stuff(sorry if not to good with terms-I am just a Russian guy living in Canada😇)- the best possible defence against APCs(if you don't have a tank,which is unbeatable ultimate APC killer which can annihilate them even without shooting at all 😉)-is PTRS-41 and any other 14.5×114 stuff!Once I was in Debalzevo we burned a lot of APCs with that beast!
By the way here,in Canada I am trying to purchase one-so soon enough I will probably get it-or as I already paid the KPVT barrel and will receive it on Thursday-so just possibly I will finally just build a magazine fed 14.5×114 bolt action super accurate rifle-using some PTRD parts and some other stuff just self manufactured...
The thing is to make it finally a 14.5 designated sniper rifle because they somehow don't even exist..🤔
John Sheppard
прям вечер охренительных историй-_-
TheArklyte ?
Very cool, all that tool steel. The craftsmanship and milling work, love the .45 cal looking pistol grip. A little trip to the deep bluing or nc3 tank.
It's your grandaddy's Barret. Too bad it was obsolete by the time it was tested. It could've led to a bunch of pretty neat stories. The only thing I could see it being useful for in an AT use is to use it against vehicle optics.
And those Japanese tin can tanks
You could still shoot the engine blocks of armored cars and trucks
Some highly-skilled machinist wasted a week or two creating that.
He was probably paid very handsomely. So I wouldn’t call it wasted.
Awesome mini series! What a finale! That thing is beautiful, and you can tell how well machined it is as you run the bolt and safety, as well as the stock release lever/button assembly.
USMC raiders were using AT rifles in the Pacific during WW2 to great effect, so War Dept. may have been looking for a replacement for the Boy rifles you referred to. Japanese tanks were lighter armored, not to mention use against armored cars, pillboxes, etc.
Did Ian say ".30 Carbine chambered Thompson Sub-Machine Gun"?!?!?!
I'm pretty sure THIS is what you should be doing a run and gun video with...
This has been a great wee series, thanks Iain :)
I love to hear Ian grunt when he's moving it around. Really makes you realize how hefty this baby is!
I think That stock folding down is how you would stand it up on a rack or lean it against a wall.
Awesome video. Sometimes I wish these places would let you fire the good condition ones. Obviously, I know that's not strictly possible; however it's exquisite examples like this one that make me want to see you behind the gun in super sssslllloooooooowwwww mmmmooooottttiiiooooon
Watch an M1 carbine firing in slow motion at 350x zoom.
I was thinking the same thing with this one. From the sound of the parts moving, this one sounds to be in perfect shape. Well machined. I bet it would fire a full magazine with no trouble.
Ian, thanks a lot for your fantastic videos, I love them!!
I agree with you that Anti-Tank rifles were obsolete in 1943 - but if you consider it to be used against light vehicles, barricades and stuff like that it makes perfect sense.
Maybe it was called Anti-Tank rifle because people knew what it is and that you can use it for a lot of purposes. Maybe this is the Grandfather of the Light Fifty which is, by the way usually carried in parts by four men. Maybe it was the same idea behind this rifle which would give sense to the folding stock, it might work when the trigger group is gone. A M2 is much much heavier than this thing (~100kg vs. 13kg) and not intended to be man-portable. Also, you need lots and lots of heavy ammunition, barrels, a tripod and a ton of other stuff - unlike this thing. All it needs is a few dozen rounds.
Also, it is way easier to "shoot and scoot" before the enemy is able to pinpoint his fire to your position. And a semi is way more effective in most cases. Furthermore, it gives you a way smaller signature and the precision is way better - even without a scope.
Finally thought we would see this cool system taken apart. Gutted. Great vid as always. ThankQ. TkEZ»UK
4:10 .30 carbine Thompson,can do that review?
It will publish in a few weeks.
I assume that you only made an accidental spelling error. Or if you are joking considering your name "wrong rifle".
But it is .30 Carbine.
I can't recall ever seeing anything besides the M1/ M2 Carbine chambered in .30 carbine.
Was the .30 Carbine round ever popular (besides M1) or have any notable firearms that were chamber for it?
I believe there's a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine, and a bunch of stuff like that.
I wanna see someone go Rambo with that thing!
Ah yes jerry miculek
That Thompson .30 carbine sub-machine gun was a first for me to see as well. Thanks.
Wow, the action sounds so smooth.
Perfect for home defense, against bears. Or plinking, with steel drums.
great for groundhogs..kill em and bury em with one shot
I have a feeling this will be featured in Battlefield V someday in the future
@@TheFirstCurse1 here I was hoping we could air drop over Normandy...
That bad boy is sweet! Also I beg to differ that "anything shoulder fired is insufficient..." - Those bullets are plenty big enough to muck up all kinds of stuff on a tank if you put them in the right spots: Gun sights, Drive Sprockets, periscopes and tank commanders / gunners hanging around in their Cupola are are all quite vulnerable to such a weapon. Love Your work Ian ; )
I heard that such a rifle exists, but it's the first time I saw it on the video. Thank you for showing!
Wait a second, where the hell is the bipod?
looks like it belongs in the fallout games.
I hope Bethesda will implement several "forgotten" weapons in the new fallout,but this will never happen
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we can put ion a mod request via nexus
+Chad Barrett do it please
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I am but just one nerd. if all the nerds watching this and have fallout 4 and an nexus account support this idea. Then we shall start a thread and show some demand for it. Doesn't mean it will happen though maybe a mod maker will want to.
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I haven't had any issues
Shooting Boys from the shoulder was a nightmare, maybe that was a motivation to look for something different?
its nice to hear the history and the odd surrounding reasons and possibility's of mechanical, ergonomic, economic and production systems that all make it happen, thank you for such brilliant presentation's.
are you going to cover that weird 30 carbine thompson?
Yes, I have a video on it that hasn't posted yet.
+Forgotten Weapons Will you show the Winchester light Rifle from the 50's?
Cool. If (IF) that would have worked, it would have been a very nice SMG.
Man I wonder if you could have put a scope on it to make a sniper rifle. I'd expect it to be pretty accurate.
such pretty machining, such nice surface finishes and tight tolerances
Thanks for showing this. I was just reading about this in my recent NRA Magazine article about Winchester.
Is this the first semi-auto .50BMG rifle?
No, Springfield experimented with semi auto M2s in the 1930s.
I should have specified: shoulder fired rifle EG Barrett M82
But does a semi-auto M2 constiute a rifle?
Perhaps you could point me in a direction for some info on those?
The BAR has been around since WW I if I recall correctly.
The BAR is a 30-06, not a .50BMG.
thompson chambered in .30 carbine? i am extremely curious. I wish you did a video on that. it would be effectively an assault rifle too!
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Great thanks!
As a junior mechanical engineer i'd love to hear that rifle work, metal rods pushing against solid, bulky steel parts, the distinct "Clang" of metal on metal action and impacts all of that. But of course is impossible since the bullet being fired would muffle all and any mechanical noise from the rifle inner workings. Oh well a man can dream...
Maybe re-produce this with a high power scope/ night vision sighting setup. M14 made a good snipe shooter being semi- auto. Ma-duce was used with a scope in nam since it could be fired one round at a time with a quick trigger finger unlike the m-60 which fired quicker. This program is really great, epically the host. Good job young Jedi.
Is there anything worth mentioning about that .30 carbine Thompson, or is it just a 1928a1 scaled up?
I was wondering about that Thompson too. It would be cool if Auto Ordnance (Kahr) would produce a semi automatic (closed bolt) version!
+WAQWBrentwood dont they have one already?
+gunfuego yeah you can buy thompson SBRs these days, but in .45 acp offcourse.
They have .45ACP Only AFAIK.
I am amazed they didn't try and sell it to the Australians for going against Japanese tanks.
It might actually have been of some use for that, given the relatively weak armour of Japanese tanks.
Great video, wish I could see it fire! The action sounds so smooth. It looks like it would shatter your clavicle lol
That bolt sounds beautiful when it's opened. What a machine!
it kind of reminds me of the Barret 50 cal
Literally over 2k thumbs up and one single thumb down
That action looks & sounds smooth!
This thing is exquisitely well machined.
Try imaging if this rifle made it to the service with the US military in WW2. It would be the Best AT rifle compared to the boys, PTRS, P-39 and Other AT Rifles
For some reason I don't quite believe that American military leaders and, in this case, engineers / rifle makers fully understood what was and wasn't obsolete during WWII as the technologies and equipment progressed. In the end it was enough, and good enough, of an effort considering both the Japanese and German reductions in manufacturing and/or resources.
some AT rifles were used in counter sniping, so maybe they just wanted a big gun for snipers?
then again, they did built bazooka... and made that by truckloads so evidently, they probably do know what works in general... but some among them may not necessarily be up to date...
and to be fair though, AT rifle was still sufficient to knock out light tanks and armored cars at the time... (or tanks like in the Pacific theater where Japanese tanks have very little armor) and there were a lot of those targets around...
bazooka of course were probably just much more effective at taking them out than this...
***** probably because they can actually carry this one on foot and use it without having to set one up like an M2?, i mean think of GIs having to setup in a built up area... it's a lot easier to have guys hidden than vehicles...
of course it's even easier to just carry bazookas and instead of just being able to knock light vehicles, they'd actually be able to knock or at least disable tanks too that way
You can certainly make the case for Winchester - they developed the thing on their own hook, and submitted it for consideration. Ordnance wasn't looking for an Anti-Tank Rifle, with the Bazooka already in the field, and the 57mm and 75mm recoilless rifles going into production.
Consider that a U.S. Infantry Battalion went into the line with semi-automatic rifles, mortars and MGs at all levels, and radio communication down to the squad level. (The deadliest sidearm is a walkie-talkie on the Artillery Net). They were getting food that, while it wasn't the greatest tasting stuff, wasn't going to go bad and could survive being stored. They travelled by truck for operational movement. Artillery and armor support was so plentiful that it was pretty much guaranteed.
The Germans were using bolt-action 98Ks, and I'll grant the GPMG concept for the MG34 and 42, but squad/platoon firepower was limited. Anywhere they went, it was by foot, and supplies and supports were hauled by horses. A German unit was followed by a herd of Cows & Sheep, so that the Field Butchers could take it off the hoof, since they couldn't ship it without it spoiling. (No field refrigerators). If you weren't a Panzer Grenadier, the only tanks you were likely to see were Shermans and T34s.
It's all about the choices that need to be made - where the tradeoffs are.
Like the sound of that bolt locking up 😉👍👍
I went there a while ago, great museum and they had an unbelievable amount of guns
I'm not a gun guy. I don't own a single gun. My interest in them is purely from a historical and engineering point of view. I am, in fact, an advocate for much stronger gun laws. If you disagree with me on that topic, that's just fine. I'm not going to argue with you in this forum.
I'm just posting this to let Ian know that I really enjoy these videos. He does such a great job of articulating a weapon's origin, history, mechanical workings, and eccentricities. I have yet to start one of these videos and not finish because I lost interest.
Good job, Ian.
Noone cares about you stance on gun laws. Fuck off
It seems to me that if you actually fired some weapons, you would discover why we are gun nuts. It's not about hurting anyone, it's about the satisfaction of accurate, rapid, shooting.
The thrill of noise or lack of. Commradery with others, ( Except for the occasional jerk). The ability to build your own weapon and ammo safely! The science involved is so educational. Which you mentioned and is a good start for you but only scratches the emotional high. And anyone can participate whether your handicapped, youth, women, weak, , guns are the tools that can make any David stronger than any Goliath or mugger, or Rapist, or molester, or racist or murderer or invader. Try it you'll love it.
Had not heard of this before, thank you !
I can only imagine the calluses a soldier would have JUST carrying this rifle, even with gloves, that metal isn't treated like today's.
that was sweet! weight wise, there were flintlock wall guns , smooth and rifled, that weighed more than that.some considerably so. I really like the supper size to all the parts.i always thought thats was how I would do it, but I thought that someone with a lot more experience than I have would have known and put into practice much better techniques than I knew of to achieve the same ends. thanx Ian.
Cit appears to me that rifle was decades ahead of its time
in awe at the size of this lad. Absolute unit.
When you grabbed that blot handle and scale became clear I almost died. Really cool
Amazing rifle. Seems like a quality piece of engineering!
Ian, Ashley sure hooked you up with lots of content.
This gun is actually beautiful. Good stuff.
The machine work on this gun looks really nice.
The noise when cycling the bolt. CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK
Winchester: We will make the smallest, lightest combat rifle imaginable.
Also Winchester: We will make the biggest, heaviest combat rifle imaginable.
50 BMG does do antitank work in this era. ( In WWi it did work. ) It would serve as an anti material weapon. Soft skinned vehicles and light armor vehicles could be stopped or damaged by 50BMG sniping. It would also work for paratroops. IT seems to be a product of the pre-D-Day developments. Someone might think it could serve as heavy fire support, like a BAR with more per shot punch.
Pop a huge brake on that thing, replace some things with lightweight polymer and aluminum and that would be almost just as good as an m82. That bolt looks incrediblly smooth.
So many people I know think the Barrett M107 is the first 50 BMG sniper rifle-if you can even call it that
Pretty cool, I actually went to the Cody Firearms Museum while on a trip out to Yellowstone, its a great museum and I really recommend it.
wow. I noticed the smoothness of action before it was mentioned. looks like you could take it to the field!!!
Pooh working on a one off must be nerve racking great vid👍👍
OK, that was a little mindbending. I thought that museum logo was painted on the wall behind Ian, until he reached over and it stayed in front of his arm...