Dude thanks for documenting this! Right now I’m watching Emma builds Birbie make a plywood houseboat, Gavin Watson build a long narrow plywood electric boat and you build this bitchin boat. All three channels are so different yet so good … because of people like you guys. UA-cam is so much fun.
A suggestion, when nuts are used, Castellated nuts with wire going from one nut to another keeps nuts from backing off on propeller airplanes. I really like your boat.
Very interesting. I always wondering, as you have no cockpit, how you will control the rudder ; we see a bit more on the plan. I suppose you will have some cables in the boat to control it ?
I go into detail on that in OCSS-035 and 036. There's a tiller on deck and an internal tiller system as well. But on long passages a trim tab windvane will do all the steering.
Hi realy nice to see all those extra videos. Is there any estimates of the volyme, 40 liters ? Beamy boats need boyancy high up and weight low down. A roll over test will clearify, but remember Baluchon, any news.
Hi, Thanks for the videos, do really enjoy watching them. The buoyancy arch, I am not sure about. Not only is the design going to introduce unwanted windage (wide verticals, and fat inclined horizontal), but I am sure is unnecessary for self-righting.
Thanks I’m enjoying the content and the progress you are making… I think a weekly episode will still keep everyone coming back for more and have a lot more content either way I’ll keep watching the progress good luck
Love the look of the buoyancy arch. I understand it serves a purpose, but to me it'll aesthetically balance out the boat quite a bit Keep up the hard work shipmate. Loving the daily uploads
I like the sporty compact design. Well everything about it. Everything you do is so meticulous and perfect. If building mine, I would make the boat light on the keel weights and figure out a way to make them heavy for sailing and light for other times. Other times meaning, it would have the hydro foil fins to cruise fast with 500 HP out boards in the back. or slower hydro foil sailing for stability. You have to be able to outrun from pirates and have countermeasures.
Yes, like Baluchon I've got to locate the vane on the coamings or close to the main bulkhead. Luckily because the boat is small, the vane will also be small. It only needs to move a small trim tab on the back of the rudder.
Nearly 9,000 subscribers captain. Your hard work is paying off. I wonder if Baluchon ever came close to needing its buoyancy arch? Best wishes from Cornwall UK.
Ah I see, great idea for righting the boat. I saw somebody pointed out it could act as a windvane and constantly weather cock the boat. You might want thinner side supports. Will you also consider a mast float?
I like the thicker vertical supports because they add a lot of volume to it. A mast float is good for an undecked sailboat with no weighted keel, but seeing as I have a rounded deck, buoyancy arch, and 2 heavy keels I think a mast float would just be unnecessary.
Everywhere is a comfortable sitting place with a cushion when the weather's nice. Otherwise you're down in the cabin. It's built for long passages and most people don't really spend a lot of time out on deck during those.
It appears that the roll motion velocity will be decreased from 90° -270° gentling the roll during most events. Rolling off sideways on a large quartering wave might be slower but more assured I think - by looking at it.
@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat I think the gizmo might hold you inverted in certain conditions where it catches a down flow but there's assurance that the vessel will right when gushing torrent subsides. Does that make more sense captain P?
I can't imagine a situation where it would "hold you inverted." I've seen rollover tests with these and the boat rolls back upright really quickly. The combo of a lead keel and a buoyancy arch is really powerful.
Hey Perry, why don’t you incorporate fender storage into the buoyancy arch? The arch is “dead space” but you could nest fenders into it, and they provide buoyancy in the space they occupy (as long as you figure a way of securing them sufficiently. Even if you have a solar panel, the idea works even if you secure them from underneath.
Yes, it's a good thought. I thought of lashing a fender or two under it to add some volume, or to lash them up on deck near the doghouse for more buoyancy/righting moment if the boat was knocked down. Also was thinking to instead lash a lightweight container under the arch for the same reason.
At high speeds it uses airflow to create more downforce, which allows the rudder to have more surface area acting on the water. No no I'm just kidding. It will also hold some solar panels and a pole with a strong 360° light and a US flag.
Do you plan to run the arch side plates down through the deck? I would think the side plates should be one-piece and have at least a third of its total length below the deck??
Yes that's fine, I built it with a drain in the bottom. It's for holding things like dock lines and bumpers that might already be wet. However the hatch cover will latch on tight with a gasket and personally I think it will stay pretty dry, but I could certainly be wrong.
Please click on my channel and click on "Playlists" and you will see "OCSS Series". Every video is listed in order of upload date and I try to use a simple title that describes what the video's about, instead of the vague click-bait titles so many use. It should be pretty easy to find what you want to watch.
Great seeing these mini episodes but please do not wear out completely so that you don't want to see the build for years. I understand that you do this beside your regular day job. If you like please tell us briefly about your day job, so we know what you deal with besides this hefty boat build? Please remember to take care of yourself and your family as well!
Thanks, I'm going to slow down after today to about 2 or 3 videos a week for the rest of the month. I've been doing a consulting job in the transportation sector for a decade now. Luckily I've been working from home for the past couple years.
It will certainly work as a buoyancy aid, but will also work as a sail, with potentially bad unintended consequences. Will it stay in one piece if the boat is being rocked by waves, if the boat is upside down? With this big of a surface area, it will need to be really strong. I've been following you for a long time, but truly don't think this wing is a good idea.
The whole boat needs to be strong, and the buoyancy arch is no different. Every part of a boat over the waterline causes some windage, look at all the biminis and spray dodgers on cruising boats even dinghies strapped to the deck, this arch catches much less wind than any of those. It's also shaped to have minimal drag.
@@ocean_capable_small_sailboatI don't think you can compare the effect the windage of a bimini on a 10 tons boat and the effect of a proportionally bigger wing on your boat, which is very light. In fact, large sailboats engineered for performance will not have a bimini even if they have nowhere near the effect your wing will have on your boat.
I don't think I can help you. It's not a massive component, and is designed for minimum windage by someone with way more experience on the matter than me. This is a mini-cruiser, not a racer. I'll say no more.
It looks like the plastic aerofoils that teenagers put on the back of their beat up old cars around 40 years ago in the belief that the downforce that they generated would help them take corners faster. You just need some go faster stripes to complete the early 1980s style 😀
Dude thanks for documenting this! Right now I’m watching Emma builds Birbie make a plywood houseboat, Gavin Watson build a long narrow plywood electric boat and you build this bitchin boat. All three channels are so different yet so good … because of people like you guys. UA-cam is so much fun.
Thanks! Glad you like it so much.
A suggestion, when nuts are used, Castellated nuts with wire going from one nut to another keeps nuts from backing off on propeller airplanes. I really like your boat.
Good observation seat!!
I don't think I'll ever sit on this, it will get some solar on top.
Nice work, it's always good to see how a component will work with a 1:1 mock-up. Really cool flotation arch.
The Pineapple is our ship mascot.
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been watching and enjoying these mini episodes. I can imagine it is really hard to get them out on time thought. Keep up the good work.
I'm sure you've probably thought of this already but that flotation arch looks like the ideal spot for adhesive-backed solar panels.
I agree. I was gifted some hard panels that I think will go there. Heavier, but they'll give more power and last longer.
Enjoying the mini episodes a lot. They’ve got to be a lot of work, but I’m hoping you can keep making them. As always thanks for sharing.
This is an algorithm booster! ⛵
Very interesting. I always wondering, as you have no cockpit, how you will control the rudder ; we see a bit more on the plan.
I suppose you will have some cables in the boat to control it ?
I go into detail on that in OCSS-035 and 036. There's a tiller on deck and an internal tiller system as well. But on long passages a trim tab windvane will do all the steering.
thanks
Will that plans be available, one day? I wish they were already!
that's awesome man
Hi realy nice to see all those extra videos.
Is there any estimates of the volyme, 40 liters ?
Beamy boats need boyancy high up and weight low down.
A roll over test will clearify, but remember Baluchon, any news.
He calculated 163 liters of volume with the CAD program.
163 liters.
That for sure will give a lot of rightning moment
@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat
Hi, Thanks for the videos, do really enjoy watching them. The buoyancy arch, I am not sure about. Not only is the design going to introduce unwanted windage (wide verticals, and fat inclined horizontal), but I am sure is unnecessary for self-righting.
Thanks I’m enjoying the content and the progress you are making… I think a weekly episode will still keep everyone coming back for more and have a lot more content either way I’ll keep watching the progress good luck
Love the look of the buoyancy arch. I understand it serves a purpose, but to me it'll aesthetically balance out the boat quite a bit
Keep up the hard work shipmate. Loving the daily uploads
Thanks, I agree. 👍
Great idea to mock it up with cardboard first!!
Thanks. Yes it's good to see it 1:1 in real life.
I like the sporty compact design. Well everything about it. Everything you do is so meticulous and perfect. If building mine, I would make the boat light on the keel weights and figure out a way to make them heavy for sailing and light for other times. Other times meaning, it would have the hydro foil fins to cruise fast with 500 HP out boards in the back. or slower hydro foil sailing for stability. You have to be able to outrun from pirates and have countermeasures.
A 2023 500 HP 7.6 liter outboard engine will set you back about 70 thousand dollars.
@@curtiscagle6261 - Not to mention, it's way easier to simply not be wherever the pirates are, than it is to outrun them.
The only problem I see with that design (it's beautiful!) is that it will be difficult to put a windvane later, if you'd want to.
Yes, like Baluchon I've got to locate the vane on the coamings or close to the main bulkhead. Luckily because the boat is small, the vane will also be small. It only needs to move a small trim tab on the back of the rudder.
Nearly 9,000 subscribers captain. Your hard work is paying off.
I wonder if Baluchon ever came close to needing its buoyancy arch?
Best wishes from Cornwall UK.
From what he told me, his boat was knocked over a few times, but I'm sure the arch and his keel kept him from rolling too far.
I’m liking that arch!
Sweet! thanks.
Ah I see, great idea for righting the boat. I saw somebody pointed out it could act as a windvane and constantly weather cock the boat. You might want thinner side supports.
Will you also consider a mast float?
I like the thicker vertical supports because they add a lot of volume to it. A mast float is good for an undecked sailboat with no weighted keel, but seeing as I have a rounded deck, buoyancy arch, and 2 heavy keels I think a mast float would just be unnecessary.
@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat They have to be thick, ot they'll snap off in a roll.
BRILLIANT!
Suggest to create smooth lateral edges, so it won´t catch side wind
Edges of the vertical supports will be rounded, if that's what you mean.
Nice work!
Setting the top of your arch to comfortable sitting height would be a good idea. I don't see anywhere you have a comfortable place to sit.
Everywhere is a comfortable sitting place with a cushion when the weather's nice. Otherwise you're down in the cabin. It's built for long passages and most people don't really spend a lot of time out on deck during those.
It appears that the roll motion velocity will be decreased from 90° -270° gentling the roll during most events. Rolling off sideways on a large quartering wave might be slower but more assured I think - by looking at it.
More assured than what? I don't really understand the comment. Thanks for watching.
@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat I think the gizmo might hold you inverted in certain conditions where it catches a down flow but there's assurance that the vessel will right when gushing torrent subsides. Does that make more sense captain P?
I can't imagine a situation where it would "hold you inverted." I've seen rollover tests with these and the boat rolls back upright really quickly. The combo of a lead keel and a buoyancy arch is really powerful.
Is there room for soft solar panels on the wing?
Yes, I plan to put panels there.
Do you really intend to sail this boat across an ocean? Wow, I would like to see that. From what I've seen so far, I think you could do it.
Yes, I will. Thanks for watching. 👍
Hey Perry, why don’t you incorporate fender storage into the buoyancy arch? The arch is “dead space” but you could nest fenders into it, and they provide buoyancy in the space they occupy (as long as you figure a way of securing them sufficiently. Even if you have a solar panel, the idea works even if you secure them from underneath.
Yes, it's a good thought. I thought of lashing a fender or two under it to add some volume, or to lash them up on deck near the doghouse for more buoyancy/righting moment if the boat was knocked down. Also was thinking to instead lash a lightweight container under the arch for the same reason.
That wing will add at least 10hp
12 if he paints racing stripes on the sides.
At least she'll *look* fast 😂
Très intéressant 👍
Merci
Good job. I like watching your progress.
Is this a plans-built boat? Or did you design it yourself?
Thanks for watching. I started with plans for a boat called "Tenten 425" and then I made some modifications.
will the F1 wing not create down pressure, raising the the WL, hence increasing drag downwind
Only once I hit speeds exceeding 40mph ;)
Is it safe to assume you will put a solar panel on top to keep a battery topped up?
Yes that's right.
thank you, very interesting! And in what program did you draw?
I don't know what program he used and we've since lost contact, but I use Fusion 360 for free and it's quite good.
Is the doghouse going to have a window to look aft? If so, will the arch interfere with your view?
Yes and yes, that's kind of unavoidable. I need a backup camera like cars have!
@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat or a periscope!
So close to 9k subscribers! Does the arch have any other functions besides making the boat unstable upside down?
At high speeds it uses airflow to create more downforce, which allows the rudder to have more surface area acting on the water.
No no I'm just kidding. It will also hold some solar panels and a pole with a strong 360° light and a US flag.
Do you plan to run the arch side plates down through the deck? I would think the side plates should be one-piece and have at least a third of its total length below the deck??
It's good thinking. I'm not totally certain about how to attach it yet, to be honest.
I’m afraid the starboard coaming locker will be a wet locker when it rains or spray hits the coaming.
Yes that's fine, I built it with a drain in the bottom. It's for holding things like dock lines and bumpers that might already be wet. However the hatch cover will latch on tight with a gasket and personally I think it will stay pretty dry, but I could certainly be wrong.
Why not an inflatable ball at the mast head , one that could inflate from the inside the mast head.
im so confused about the order of things didn't i see a video of you putting the deck on already and the videos I've seen recently don't have it
Please click on my channel and click on "Playlists" and you will see "OCSS Series". Every video is listed in order of upload date and I try to use a simple title that describes what the video's about, instead of the vague click-bait titles so many use. It should be pretty easy to find what you want to watch.
Sorry for my ignorance, but what is the advantage of a scow bow?
More interior space without adding length to the boat.
I discussed it in depth in OCSS-006, you should check it out.
Great seeing these mini episodes but please do not wear out completely so that you don't want to see the build for years. I understand that you do this beside your regular day job. If you like please tell us briefly about your day job, so we know what you deal with besides this hefty boat build? Please remember to take care of yourself and your family as well!
Thanks, I'm going to slow down after today to about 2 or 3 videos a week for the rest of the month. I've been doing a consulting job in the transportation sector for a decade now. Luckily I've been working from home for the past couple years.
It will certainly work as a buoyancy aid, but will also work as a sail, with potentially bad unintended consequences. Will it stay in one piece if the boat is being rocked by waves, if the boat is upside down? With this big of a surface area, it will need to be really strong. I've been following you for a long time, but truly don't think this wing is a good idea.
Small boats do not have problems with global forces.
The whole boat needs to be strong, and the buoyancy arch is no different. Every part of a boat over the waterline causes some windage, look at all the biminis and spray dodgers on cruising boats even dinghies strapped to the deck, this arch catches much less wind than any of those. It's also shaped to have minimal drag.
@@ocean_capable_small_sailboatI don't think you can compare the effect the windage of a bimini on a 10 tons boat and the effect of a proportionally bigger wing on your boat, which is very light. In fact, large sailboats engineered for performance will not have a bimini even if they have nowhere near the effect your wing will have on your boat.
I don't think I can help you. It's not a massive component, and is designed for minimum windage by someone with way more experience on the matter than me. This is a mini-cruiser, not a racer. I'll say no more.
Day 5 of commenting on OCSS daily videos!
I appreciate it! See you tomorrow.
It looks like the plastic aerofoils that teenagers put on the back of their beat up old cars around 40 years ago in the belief that the downforce that they generated would help them take corners faster.
You just need some go faster stripes to complete the early 1980s style 😀
But at least this has a couple real life functions! Mounting surface for solar and excellent righting ability for the boat.