The Economic Theory Behind J.D. Vance’s Populism

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • When Donald Trump on Monday chose Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio as his running mate it excited populists - and unnerved some business elites. Later that evening, the president of the Teamsters, Sean O’Brien, gave a prime-time speech at the Republican National Convention. “Over the last 40 years, the Republican Party has rarely pursued strong relationships with organized labor,” O’Brien said. “There are some in the party who stand in active opposition to labor unions - this too must change,” he added, to huge applause.
    There’s something happening here - a real shift in the Republican Party. But at the same time, its official platform, and the conservative policy document Project 2025, is littered with the usual proposals for tax cuts, deregulation and corporate giveaways. So is this ideological battle substantive or superficial?
    Oren Cass served as Mitt Romney’s domestic policy director in the 2012 presidential race. But since then, Cass has had an evolution; he founded the conservative economic think tank American Compass, which has been associated with J.D. Vance and other populist-leaning Republicans, like Josh Hawley, Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton. In this conversation, we discuss what economic populism means to him, what it looks like in policy, and how powerful this faction really is in the Republican Party.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 549

  • @dragoaus
    @dragoaus Місяць тому +71

    Chip War was written by Chris Miller, he studied History and works at DC Think-Tank that promotes trade. He has absolutely no idea on how Semiconductors are manufactured. Thus his book Chip War should be taken with grain of salt. Also Taiwan, where most chips are made, is not some 3rd world country where people work for pennies.

    • @TheLucanicLord
      @TheLucanicLord Місяць тому +3

      That's not what third world means.
      Is it necessary to have written your own operating system to have valid opinions about the software business?

    • @joeykelly5642
      @joeykelly5642 Місяць тому +8

      Taiwan heavily subsidizes the semiconductor industry, and the government there pays a large chunk workers’ salaries in order to keep company labor costs low. It’s of enormous strategic importance to keep the US reliant on Taiwanese chips.

    • @dragoaus
      @dragoaus Місяць тому +12

      @@TheLucanicLord no, but when discussing where and how something is manufactured, having general knowledge about business is not enough. Assumption that personal cost are driving costs of manufacturing of Semi-Conductors is nonsensical, since the manufacturing is highly automatized. In last 30 years, we had plethora of "experts" with 0 knowledge in actual industry explaining why xyz moved overseas, and boilig it down to "cheaper labor", sure this is true for clothes and simple products, but for high-tech products, this is not true.

    • @georgek7831
      @georgek7831 Місяць тому +3

      Salaries in Taiwan are actually ludicrously low by first-world standards, 1k usd is a normal salary for a young college grad in a full-time job

    • @dragoaus
      @dragoaus Місяць тому +5

      ​@@georgek7831this is absolutely not true, especially for people who work in chip manufacturing.

  • @sharanyanps
    @sharanyanps Місяць тому +24

    I rarely ever comment on anything, but I think this is such a needed conversation and I am glad that Ezra reached out across the aisle to a well spoken guest. This was fantastic, would be great to zoom into nuances as follow ups if possible.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Місяць тому +3

      Ezra is Center Right, just in my opinion. So is Biden.

    • @mensrea1251
      @mensrea1251 Місяць тому

      What makes you say Ezra is “center right”? He seems more center left if anything.

  • @robertbraden4454
    @robertbraden4454 Місяць тому +28

    What Ezra seems to be missing is the current wafer/chip supply chain is complex because we made it complex by expanding and exporting our supply chain.

    • @dfinma
      @dfinma Місяць тому +5

      Let's be specific -- corporate greed and legislative cooperation (read: lobby/PAC influence) enabled manufacturing to be removed from the US.

    • @RobbbbM-qk3ei
      @RobbbbM-qk3ei Місяць тому

      Tsmc in Arizona isn’t doing well.

    • @testboga5991
      @testboga5991 Місяць тому

      ​@@dfinmathat's populist nonsense.

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones 18 днів тому

      @@dfinma
      By "corporate greed" you mean profit-seeking, do you?
      I'd ask you what you mean by "enabled," except that it's pretty clear you don't know.

  • @SubvertTheState
    @SubvertTheState Місяць тому +23

    People need to understand that the mining practices and methods China now uses to refine rare Earth minerals, were pioneered by Federal Grant money right here in the US.
    Saying things will be too expensive is just a cop out.

    • @bobzelley5100
      @bobzelley5100 Місяць тому +3

      Penn state and the Colorado school of mines are among the best in the world and selected in 2021 for the united states rare earth minerals strategic initiative . The government's dod 2023 grant to bring back into operation the king mountain mine was a good move for future generations

  • @youngmuggzy85
    @youngmuggzy85 Місяць тому +4

    Best.Fucking.Debate. I’ve heard in years between 2 people who respect each other’s views regardless of how different they are.

  • @reneebuffington2014
    @reneebuffington2014 Місяць тому +4

    Jobs that moved overseas are A DROP IN THE BUCKET compared to what’s been eliminated by automation. These guys kept themselves entertained, but they’re not addressing the most important challenge facing workers.

  • @ryanandre3556
    @ryanandre3556 Місяць тому +3

    Saying that "the climate agenda" is a narrow issue for liberal elites ignores the very clear science that shows we are warming quickly and this warming is a threat to everyone's future prosperity, especially the working class people that this populism is supposed to help. No party has the luxury of ignoring climate change while remaining logically or philosophically consistent with it's aims, even if we're just talking economic aims. This is a big hole in the guest's thinking. He says we need to refocus our support on the part of the economy that actually makes things (like manufacturing), but he ignores the fact that making things relies largely on the functioning of our natural systems - as do many areas of our economy. If you're willing to ignore clear science and take an objectively wrong stance on something like climate change simply because it is "unpopular" then you lack the vision and integrity to govern our country.

  • @user-mv2nv6rd9b
    @user-mv2nv6rd9b Місяць тому +12

    Thank you both for an instructive and civil discourse. It seems to me that both parties will begin a new competition for the centre. A nascent one admittedly. But my feeling is that the competition will soon really catch fire.

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому

      @@user-mv2nv6rd9b only if they want to sit down together. Trump won’t sit down with anyone. Read his history. He’ll call them names, lie about any subject and no one can accomplish anything in that environment. Fact!

  • @mountbara
    @mountbara Місяць тому +8

    You are 8 years late to the party Ezra. The change has been happening for a long time.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Місяць тому +5

      He plays it safe, for sure.

  • @r.c.rosario8435
    @r.c.rosario8435 Місяць тому +41

    Always with the feigned concern over non-existent 'free market' volatility: "oh, we can't do 'living wage' or union labor or innovation, etc-- the people won't LIKE higher prices.."
    1. As if capitalist corp MONOPOLIES operate in a "free market" economy, vulnerable to consumer demand/choice.
    2. As if price increase is unavoidable, that nothing else has room for adjustment, i.e. the multi-deca-millions in exec salaries, stock buybacks...

    • @miguelgameiro8063
      @miguelgameiro8063 Місяць тому

      Yeah that’s what free market fixes the more competition the less of this happens you can collude with 5 people you can’t collude with 100

    • @GSXK4
      @GSXK4 Місяць тому

      What is your core argument.. and what are the simple solutions?

    • @marlak4253
      @marlak4253 Місяць тому +1

      I think r.c. rosario's core issue is that the nation can & should have a living wage, unionized labor, Medicare for all with dental, etc. without inflation if it were not for greed among the wealthy corp monopolies who could care less about poverty and the effects of their policies on the general population. China lifted 800 million people out of poverty in only 40 years and now has the largest economy in the world. How about this as a model?

    • @CaesarRenasci
      @CaesarRenasci Місяць тому +2

      What's wrong with CEOs' salaries?
      You never complain about people like LeBron Kames whovcannot speak properly a single human language and are paid $120M for successfully shoving a rubber ball through a metal hoop. "His pay is termined by the market, " you say. But a $20-30M for a CEO who ensures jobs for 200,000 people is too much? That pay is also determined by the market.
      2. What's wrong with buybacks? Nothing, actually. A company that can grow SELLS stock to finamce growth. A company that cannot grow returns the money to shareholders --- BUYS its stock.
      This is much like gamilies. During the growth stage, families buy and move into bigger houses; and at an older age, they sell their estates and downsize.
      You are full of hate but know nothing about that what you hate.

    • @Romeo7414GD
      @Romeo7414GD Місяць тому

      🎯🎯🎯🎯

  • @singed8853
    @singed8853 Місяць тому +7

    Interesting guest and conversation. Never heard of this guest. Enjoyed it.

  • @josephscarpaci3688
    @josephscarpaci3688 Місяць тому +2

    Its hard to remember events like the Triangle Shirt waist factory fire that occured after the ladies trying to organize for safety reasons were roughed up by the close police precinct the March 25 1911 & 146 +- people died as my grandfather in his police uniform was on crowd control. The owners were never found guilty or even charged with neglect! Yep free enterprise isn't free if you're on the bottom rung.

  • @chrisrichardson8988
    @chrisrichardson8988 Місяць тому +17

    We are still cleaning up the George W. Bush era messes. People do not connect the lines of those policies to their lasting problems we see today.

    • @CaesarRenasci
      @CaesarRenasci Місяць тому +4

      Oh yes. Actually, we are still dealing with mess left by George Washington, although the root of the problem was planted during the fall of the Roman Empire.
      Who graduated you from high school.?

    • @JoanCurbow-uk4si
      @JoanCurbow-uk4si Місяць тому

      I'd go back even further, to Ronald Reagan. His policies were a real sea change for the worst. He did away with the Fairness Doctrine, and he espoused the trickle-down theories that began to erode the middle class. Biden was beginning to turn the boat around and try to restore the middle class.

    • @sassysince90
      @sassysince90 Місяць тому +1

      Even just what no child left behind did

    • @testboga5991
      @testboga5991 Місяць тому

      Actually, we're cleaning up Reagan's and Thatcher's mess - and doing a piss poor job at it because we allow those who profited from their failed policies to buy our media and politicians.

  • @timlangford8678
    @timlangford8678 Місяць тому +2

    I’m a newcomer to this channel. Great conversation. Hard, thoughtful questions to a thoughtful guest. A new trend that I was aware of, but feel much more informed about now. Great job.

  • @pwedza
    @pwedza Місяць тому +50

    complete pipe dream to think that the working class is going to be happy about paying more for anything regardless of policy outcome. let’s be real..

    • @user-xk1ff4gp7k
      @user-xk1ff4gp7k Місяць тому

      Now Gavin wants to give kids flipping hamburgers 20 bucks an hour fast food restaurants are what we used to call Stepping Stone employment you were never meant to raise a family or buy a house on that salary go to trade school or go to college

    • @grantbello8695
      @grantbello8695 Місяць тому +16

      If I could earn more id be happy to go without the newest iPhone. IT all depends on what what we'd be paying more for.
      The pipe dream, imo, is thinking that if the right wins, they'll move left to help rural voters who they already have banked.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState Місяць тому +11

      You are insane to think i would accept anything other than onshoring.
      I already dont buy anything, i literally cant afford anything but the bare essentials.
      The Conservative Party, likely for the last 2 generations, has always been the long term minded more fiscally responsible party.

    • @leggoego
      @leggoego Місяць тому

      ​@@SubvertTheStateUnfortunatley the most motivated voters have seemingly been the ones who want subsidies and big gov't in general

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 Місяць тому

      ​@@SubvertTheStateSubveetTheState /ignore

  • @chrisrecord5625
    @chrisrecord5625 28 днів тому

    When we had a large trade deficit with Japan it ended up with them coming over and buying US property, golf courses, etc. for 3X their previous value then 5 to 10 times less than they paid for such assets.

  • @MustangKruiser
    @MustangKruiser Місяць тому +12

    Is the goal to manufacture the majority of goods consumed by America in America? Would this mean others countries' economies are less dependent on access to the American market? Reduced dependence internationally on the American dollar? Would this reduce America's ability to wield economic power on the international stage? Effectiveness of economic sanctions? What would this do to America's soft/economic power on the world stage?

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Місяць тому +2

      Even if you assume it does decrease the influence and power of the US on the world stage, alot of the same people in favor of more manufacturing in the US also want the US to pull back at least somewhat on the "world policing" anyway.

    • @domcizek
      @domcizek Місяць тому +2

      AMERICA CAN NOT BUILD EVERYTHING HERE, YOU COULD TRY, BUT THE CONSUMER COST WOULD BE SO HIGH THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DOUBLE THE WAGES TO SURVICE

    • @dwwolf4636
      @dwwolf4636 Місяць тому +1

      Foreign people need US dollars.
      They get those when we buy foreign stuff.

    • @domcizek
      @domcizek Місяць тому

      @@dwwolf4636 YES, IF WE MADE A LOT OF THINGS HERE, THE PRICE WILL BE HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER WAGEES

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 23 дні тому

      ​@@domcizekessentially noone believes that everything can be built in the US.

  • @francis563
    @francis563 Місяць тому +3

    This is a good podcast. I liked the civil discussion between two different camps.

  • @RobotProctor
    @RobotProctor Місяць тому +5

    5:20 conversation starts

  • @jersydvl
    @jersydvl Місяць тому +23

    Trump is for the american people and the workibg class. I can't wait to vote for him. MAGA!!!

    • @trishbridges992
      @trishbridges992 Місяць тому

      You must be BLIND and DEAF!!! Have you READ project2025??? They are PLANNING to CUT OVERTIME and end Unions! They are planning to loosen rules for CHILD Labor!!! They are going to CUT BENEFITS for Veterans!!!! Exactly, what do you think they would do?????

    • @r.c.rosario8435
      @r.c.rosario8435 Місяць тому

      @jersydvl name even one piece of Repub legislation that has ever even proposed to help middle class, nevermind actually succeeding at it--the Repub platform is built on taking away civil rights, creating tax loopholes only for ultra-rich, taxing the middle and lower classes disproportionately, limiting redress of grievances, siding with corporations over private citizens, using govt to seize private property, blocking judicial appointments, the list of bad things done by Repub elected officials is endlessly in favor of rich at expense of middle class (whom they brainwash with propaganda then grift and scam for "donations")

    • @rachelhead4986
      @rachelhead4986 Місяць тому

      No he's not. That's how the brain washing works. Sad for you

    • @TheLeftPath
      @TheLeftPath Місяць тому

      Haha. Both parties represent the corporate and financial leeches. You don't even realize it.

  • @BellePal
    @BellePal Місяць тому +17

    What happened to raising taxes for billionaires rather than raising taxes for ordinary people, which is what tariffs do? We don’t need to bring spending down as much if some of those billions could be reinvested in ordinary people, and in green energy and in families as you guys like to talk about.

    • @automateeverything2341
      @automateeverything2341 Місяць тому +4

      tariff = tax is overly simplistic thinking.

    • @MegaDevo999
      @MegaDevo999 Місяць тому +2

      As long as the tariff is not too high, a modest tariff is one of the relatively better taxes (like inheritance taxes, wealth taxes) as it does raise revenue and spur domestic production. I'd rather see moderate tariffs and lower earned income taxes at the lower brackets.

  • @Mh5280
    @Mh5280 Місяць тому +7

    This was great

  • @psikeyhackr6914
    @psikeyhackr6914 Місяць тому +1

    Mandatory accounting in the schools.
    Should have been done since Sputnik.

  • @swarming1092
    @swarming1092 Місяць тому +15

    If you ignore what's going on in this element of the Republican Party out of your reflexive liberal dismissal, you're going to find the next 15-20 years very, very disorienting.

    • @MegaDevo999
      @MegaDevo999 Місяць тому

      Maybe, but it's just a repackaging with populist sounding rhetoric. Seriously, besides tariffs what taxes are they willing to increase, especially on business and the wealthy?
      How much are they willing to cut the defense budget? 25%? 50%? More?

    • @Joeshapiro7
      @Joeshapiro7 Місяць тому

      I think id agree with a guy like Oren on most things. Keep the taxes where they are. But no more cuts. Worry first about empowering unions and making sure corporations honor the laws we do have. Then, we need to restructure our welfare policies such that welfare is mostly limited to those types that enable capital accumulation rather than those which just act as a free handout. ​Hardworking decent Americans dont dream of stagnation but with a safety net. They dream of owning a home having a family and going on vacation once or twice a year. Increased taxation will eventually be needed in large part to pay off our debt. But we have a dozen other things that need to be dealt with first. Again though that increased taxation should have less of a focus on redistribution. It should be so that we as a country can pay our bills.@MegaDevo999

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 23 дні тому

      ​@MegaDevo999 obviously part of the idea is that everything isn't yet settled and this isn't their final form.

  • @MegaDevo999
    @MegaDevo999 Місяць тому

    While it is common to blame labor and regulations and the cost of manufacturing for all the offshoring done in the last three or more decades that nobody seems to mention: it was not only done to produce things abroad, it was to get greater access to those foreign markets (and governments). They didn't care about the Americans displaced that were left behind, because the U.S. market had already matured, whereas in China and other developing markets not only was labor cheap and environmental restraints non-existent, those same workers were a source of demand for everything.

  • @generallobster
    @generallobster Місяць тому +15

    Jesus Christ. I’m only 43 years old, and at the 55 minute mark, you guys are talking about your first political memories: being something that happened in the early to mid 90s? How The fall of communism, the fall of the Berlin wall, etc., are all essentially ancient relics from textbooks that are not existent in your actual reality. I’m only 43 years old and I remember All of that as well as stuff going back to the mid 80s. I don’t understand how we have such young experts on topics such as the patterns that may or may not evolve over the course of decades in the realm of politics.

    • @mariejane1567
      @mariejane1567 Місяць тому +2

      Im 41 and don't remember much in the 80s.....

    • @serpentines6356
      @serpentines6356 Місяць тому

      Well, there's that tricky word "experts". I don't put much stalk in it. A lot of them "experts" are plain stupid.
      ("Tricky Dick(y)" was a 'nickname' for Prez Nixon. He got it in 1950.)
      Solzehnistyn coming to the U.S. was a very big deal. Lot's of media coverage.
      I suggest reading through the Solzehnistyn website, "Warning to the West" is very good, listening to his interviews, his commencement address at Harvard '78. (If you haven't already). He went through the Gulags, and then got Cancer. So, VERY serious guy.
      I think the MSM finally dropped him because he brought up 'God.' That dreaded three letter word.
      I read Reagan was told NOT to include in his Presidential speech, ..."Mr. Gorbachev, Tear down that wall", but he did anyway - going against his political advisors.
      Sounds like you should go into political/public policy...You remember well.
      The wall coming down was a HUGE deal!
      For what's going on now, I'm very glad J Peterson had an interview with Tommy Robinson. (I have been following what's going on in Europe for a long time, but no one where I live (who pride themselves on being well informed) know who T. R. is, or anything else I read about.
      I also love Douglas Murray, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali..."The Market for Victimhood" by Ali, is very good.

    • @swarming1092
      @swarming1092 Місяць тому +1

      Ezra is a unique talent, and this guy is unusually thoughtful and prescient given the cohort of American conservatives over the last decade.

    • @CaesarRenasci
      @CaesarRenasci Місяць тому +2

      ​@@mariejane1567Pot was potent?

    • @CaesarRenasci
      @CaesarRenasci Місяць тому

      ​@@mariejane1567
      Only in America one can say this with pride. Only in our blessed country being an egotistic self-centered pig is acceptable and admired since the 1960s.

  • @crosstraffic187
    @crosstraffic187 Місяць тому +6

    Good discussion.

  • @JohnBickner
    @JohnBickner 22 дні тому

    David Ricardo in Principles of Political Economy followed his examples of comparative advantage with a few caveats. If one of the traded goods is manufactured a factory owner could just move his factory. But he said three things would prevent it: (1) Language barriers (2) Political instabilit or expropiation in the host country (3) Transportation costs.
    Today half the world knows more than one language. Neocolonialism protects expatriated property. And we have shipping containers. Goodby comparitive advantage. Workers in the poor country gain. Capitalists in the rich country gain . Workers in the rich country lose and so do capitalists in the poor countries.

  • @marianam8643
    @marianam8643 Місяць тому

    This is a much more interesting discussion than I anticipated. Congratulations all around. So there are ways for the left and right to communicate effectively and cut out politicians who seem to thrive on screaming at each other. Well done.

  • @frederickucker3529
    @frederickucker3529 Місяць тому +4

    Why does he, like, pause, talk like a Valley girl???

  • @ericchang9568
    @ericchang9568 Місяць тому +1

    Market is the new Roman Catholic Church, all nations and their people should bow to the invisible hand. Ann Ryan is the new Jesus.

  • @bevanbray7126
    @bevanbray7126 Місяць тому +13

    Unless you were born 4 years ago we all lived through a trump presidency and a Biden one… which had better economic stability? I know damn well if I was making the same now while trump was president I wouldn’t have any troubles. Under Biden I’m living paycheck to almost next paycheck and I definitely make more than minimum wage.

  • @oldasrocks9121
    @oldasrocks9121 Місяць тому +23

    The one thing in American politics upon which politicians and strategists can ALWAYS depend is the unending gullibility of the American electorate.

    • @msimon6808
      @msimon6808 Місяць тому

      Education can counter that. Like why do abused children like politics? Hitler was an abused child.

    • @jrm21386
      @jrm21386 Місяць тому +2

      Would you apply the same sentiment to the American populace and the COVID/big pharma narrative over the last several years?

    • @oldasrocks9121
      @oldasrocks9121 Місяць тому

      @@jrm21386 Oh boy. Prove you're human.

    • @jrm21386
      @jrm21386 Місяць тому +1

      @@oldasrocks9121 lol. Well, I made several typos in my original question, didn't I?

    • @oldasrocks9121
      @oldasrocks9121 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@jrm21386Maybe you were hallucinating...

  • @deigovideos1031
    @deigovideos1031 8 днів тому

    Crazy the republican guy doesnt even pretend to want prices to go down lol. Apparently, we just need an excuse for the high prices; fuck it, make em higher.

  • @Lemmy1899
    @Lemmy1899 Місяць тому +9

    Trump 2024!

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 Місяць тому

    So great to hear two people have an intelligent and civil discussion.
    They didn't firmly agree on every point, but that's what a valuable discussion is all about.

  • @talisikid1618
    @talisikid1618 Місяць тому

    The problem is we don’t make the best stuff. The rest of the world will reciprocate with their own restrictions on US goods. Very bad idea. We need to raise the minimum wage to $25/hr and pegged to inflation. SS benefits as well. Raise them up to where they should be and peg them as well. Tax the wealthy and corporations a lot more, including any tax dodges overseas. Put even higher taxes on their expat wealth and means test for everything including SS. All taxable assets are subject to SS taxes as well. No deductions or exemptions. Behavior an be modified by adding extra taxes and fees. But import/export should be done on an equal footing with our friends and allies, not arbitrary tariffs. Tax China, they have earned it with their deceit. But not friends and allies.

  • @Vader19k8
    @Vader19k8 Місяць тому +6

    Every other nation will then put tariffs on american goods

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 Місяць тому

      Trump thinks "If I put a 10% import tariff on Chinese washing machines, then China will cut the prices by 10% to offset the tariff". That's NOT how companies work.

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Місяць тому +1

      The US is already one of the least globally exposed, rich and developed markets there is.

    • @testboga5991
      @testboga5991 Місяць тому

      ​@@chickenfishhybrid44and it will lose that status by isolating itself

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 23 дні тому

      ​@testboga5991 "isolating" lol. A whole lot of trade goes on between the US and the rest of the Americas, I expect that to increase. Trade with China and the rest of the world also isn't going to just stop.

  • @EddyMiller-hv9xg
    @EddyMiller-hv9xg Місяць тому +8

    We love President Trump!

    • @trishbridges992
      @trishbridges992 Місяць тому

      Why?

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому

      The real question is why do you love President Trump. And what has he ever successfully achieved?

    • @direwolf6234
      @direwolf6234 Місяць тому

      truly a great role model for our children ...

    • @EddyMiller-hv9xg
      @EddyMiller-hv9xg Місяць тому

      @direwolf6234 his own children are a testimony to that. We love them too, Jesus is though only perfect man and that's because he is God too.

    • @EddyMiller-hv9xg
      @EddyMiller-hv9xg Місяць тому

      Jesus is the only...

  • @monocrum
    @monocrum Місяць тому +16

    Bro is finally catching on that his party left the building years ago.

    • @user-xk1ff4gp7k
      @user-xk1ff4gp7k Місяць тому +3

      Who is bro and why are you using bro to start your sentence with I'm pretty sure you weren't taught that in grade school that form of language is used to create division is that your intent here

    • @Gracie5.5
      @Gracie5.5 Місяць тому +1

      ​@user-xk1ff4gp7k Seriously ... policing his writing skill - and didn't even punctuate your sentence.
      #FJB

    • @bernardzsikla5640
      @bernardzsikla5640 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@user-xk1ff4gp7kCritiquing the way he is communicating his thoughts does nothing mitigate that fact that he is right. Which is both traditional parties have taken their voting bases for granted for a very long time and because of that, we have the maga movement.
      I hate to say this, but the excesses on the left has brought a over reaction on the right.
      We are all going to pay for this political experiment that is happening right before eyes.
      One big reason is NAFTA shipped their jobs overseas and decimated the quality of life for poor Americans and rural Americans. These people are more religious and less educated than the average American.
      We wonder how did America get so crazy??

    • @toomeyeh1
      @toomeyeh1 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@user-xk1ff4gp7kreally bad faith mindset for someone that probably spends a *lot* of time making comment battles like this😅 thats kinda corny man. I am not a maga cultist btw so please no strawman 😢

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Місяць тому +3

      I agree with him, stop saying "bro" every other word. I have no idea which guy you're talking about because you just said "bro" like you're in a tiktok video.

  • @cherrylee2767
    @cherrylee2767 Місяць тому +2

    "Spending for 'Americans' need to come down? I would say, spending for Israel needs to come down and divert those Billions for Israel to and for Americans.

  • @dfinma
    @dfinma Місяць тому +1

    16:50 I hope you recognize that the magic of markets that we are encouraged to believe is capitalist propaganda.

    • @MegaDevo999
      @MegaDevo999 Місяць тому

      it only exists when there is Perfect Competition. That's something that is an impediment to outsized profits and predation, so they do what they can to circumvent that

  • @CorruptDemocratsJ6
    @CorruptDemocratsJ6 Місяць тому +9

    PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024!

  • @leonardwitucke1
    @leonardwitucke1 Місяць тому +5

    Trump 2024

  • @stephensuddick1896
    @stephensuddick1896 Місяць тому +1

    Hillbilly Forgery

  • @patrickmccurdy8688
    @patrickmccurdy8688 Місяць тому +2

    Is the Republican party becoming the old Democratic party (pre-LBJ)?

    • @BruceWing
      @BruceWing Місяць тому +1

      Quasi… yes.

    • @BruceWing
      @BruceWing Місяць тому +2

      @@patrickmccurdy8688 - I’m 57, white, southern, highly formally educated in the finance industry. I was once very much a fan of free trade, NAFTA, and globalism. I am not any longer.
      I dislike much of the rhetoric of the left because of the marxist’s tinged references to power. Yes, power exists, but that doesn’t mean those with power do things to intentionally hurt the working class… to maintain their power. More often than not, the actions of the wealthy are simply self-interested responses to incentives. While agreeing that social conservatism can go too far, the socially conservative idea that those in power - who will naturally do things in their own self interest - should do so under the social/cultural constraint that Americans should help Americans… is a good idea. Liberals share a similar value. Libertarians (an ideology I very much like… but believe is incomplete… as all political ideologies are) is too atomistically individualistic to grapple with the conservative/liberal advocacy of the above point.

    • @TheLeftPath
      @TheLeftPath Місяць тому

      @@BruceWing Lol what you described about those in power doing stuff because of self-interest based on incentives which is given to them by a system is precisely what Marx wrote about. And if you dont want those incentives to exist, the system must be changed. Maybe you should read a little bit more by Marx... They do it on behalf of the capitalists because the government is precisely what sets up and maintains the economic order with its laws. Your idea that social conservatives should act in their own self-interest and helping people at the same time.... is extremely contradictory in itself. And is based upon the liberal / conservative non-materialist way of thinking.

  • @dark_mode
    @dark_mode Місяць тому +10

    Oh my god I'm bored out of my mind.

    • @christinewimer5523
      @christinewimer5523 Місяць тому

      You must be a liberal. You thrive on hate and disinformation so I can see how the truth would bore you.

  • @MyTruth1771
    @MyTruth1771 Місяць тому

    Ezra got handled. He leads with basically a lot of assumptions.

  • @MegaDevo999
    @MegaDevo999 Місяць тому

    The decades of lies that Freed Trade will mean better, higher paying jobs here and "We don't need to worry about wages and labor and environmental standards and human rights in these other countries, once we (our corporations) have access to their markets, they'll all want to become just like it [cuz we're so awesome" screwed the working class. Not sure that it can be undone, but how do you rectify that, other than feel-good fla-waving rhetoric?

  • @hershalgroundjr585
    @hershalgroundjr585 Місяць тому +3

    Amazing the Democratic rhetoric

  • @talisikid1618
    @talisikid1618 Місяць тому +3

    This guy seems to not understand. Cars made in Japan are better than their American made counterparts. Just ask a mechanic. Same with firearms. Americans just aren’t as conscientious as the Japanese. I want to choose without a stupid tariff in the way. Maybe if you started with moral education first, you wouldn’t ever need the tariffs.

    • @MegaDevo999
      @MegaDevo999 Місяць тому +1

      A big part of that was the ascendency of the finance in the corporations in America to lay off and do everything to cut costs to squeeze out more profits in a race to the bottom; while at the same time the Japanese [had] lifetime employment and were concentrating on incremental improvement,
      When the U.S. brought quotas (for number of cars, rather than value) the Japanese did the logical thing and stopped sending the cheaper cars and moved up the value chain.

  • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
    @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Місяць тому

    Ezra Klein: "It's IMPOSSIBLE for us to make chips here, it's too complicated."
    American Economy: "DYNAMIC INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"

    • @Ryanandboys
      @Ryanandboys Місяць тому

      He didn't say that at all and if you research anything about computer chips there's literally about a thousand companies that are global that all make some unique part that you need to make the most complex chips. These companies worked for decades to learn how to make the tools and processes you can't replicate all of that overnight so you would need to import all that or purchase the companies. It's a matter of cost in trade-offs we could have a sort of Manhattan project of build our own chips but it would cost so much money and take too long. And we don't even have enough or the right kind of workers to do so.

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Місяць тому

      @@Ryanandboys So what failed former Soviet State are you from that's led you to entirely underestimate what America is capable of?
      This country is the most advanced economy in the history of the human species. This country takes in more foreign university students every year than the entire university system of the Netherlands educates TOTAL -- and Trump wants to give ALL of those students a green card. We're leading the world by YEARS on A.I., fusion power, space travel, advanced robotics, self-driving cars, and defense technology -- we're ahead on biotech, quantum computing, advanced manufacturing, and telecommunications. We're the only large developed economy with a population that isn't in decline, including China whose population is collapsing. America's eight largest tech companies have a larger market cap than the NATIONS of Britain, France, Germany and Canada combined. Apple alone is a larger economy than Germany. We make more oil than Saudi Arabia, we make more natural gas than Qatar, our banks are the dominant banks and our dollar is the dominant currency.
      "We can't make computer chips!"
      We INVENTED computer chips.

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Місяць тому +2

      @@Ryanandboys I sent you a long, well researched, and detailed reply explaining why the American economy is the best in the world and more than capable of this.
      Google's Progressive left wing "sense or ship" algorithm removed the reply for being too pro American.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Місяць тому

      Wow. Who invented the chip? Please expound on Algorithm shift by Google/Utube? if you would. Is Bing and Thread.the way to go?

  • @steveb796
    @steveb796 Місяць тому +13

    The trade deficit increased 23% under trump after Obama lowered it by 10.%. With Mexico it went up 78% under trump and down 3 % under Obama

    • @rachelhead4986
      @rachelhead4986 Місяць тому

      Absolutely exactly 💯

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 23 дні тому

      And? I think most people would rather see more trade within North America than places like China.

  • @michealhudson2325
    @michealhudson2325 Місяць тому +2

    If you can't remember, why talk.

  • @qn57
    @qn57 Місяць тому +2

    I‘m increasingly TEKSting, i.e., recommending The Ezra Klein Show to my friends. Nobody knows where all of this is going, but something is going on in our thinking, finally.

  • @MIKAEL212345
    @MIKAEL212345 Місяць тому

    1:01:30 I actually died laughing here with the Kamala quote.

  • @blainedunlap8571
    @blainedunlap8571 Місяць тому +3

    My God, Ezra, you say 'ˆ I" more times per minute than anyone in history. Look, you are a bright, articulate fellow, everybody I know thinks you would have been better on MSNBC that the guy that won the slot..but the NYT is not chopped liver, good save, etc., BUT: I find, I believe, I feel, puh-lease.

  • @grantbello8695
    @grantbello8695 Місяць тому +14

    Fantasy to imagine the right wing moving further left volenterally, considering how many W's they are putting up currently.

    • @TheBruceGday
      @TheBruceGday Місяць тому +7

      Are they posting W’s because they are moving towards populism and the people though?

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому

      The right is only moving further right. They have no interest in looking ahead. Trump is the leader and he only cares about the bottom line. That being more power for him. Or more money for him. He’s never cared about helping the country and hasn’t changed one iota. He will say whatever he thinks will be popular amongst those gullible enough to believe it. He’s been lying about stuff his whole life and why people believe him now is beyond reason

    • @IcyVegeta
      @IcyVegeta Місяць тому

      ​@@TheBruceGday They don't care about that. Unlike Dems, they relentlessly pursue victory even with lies and scummy rhetoric.

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Місяць тому

      There's people on the left who still think Joe Biden is alive.

    • @singed8853
      @singed8853 Місяць тому +7

      Their wins are tied to moving left. The parties are in the process of moving in opposite directions. It’s a fluid situation.

  • @minkbach9452
    @minkbach9452 Місяць тому +4

    these 2 parties have not the american people in there mind. more like 2 clans fighting each other

    • @vladseva2327
      @vladseva2327 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly... All this debate while being fascinating will have no impact on real politics.

    • @serpentines6356
      @serpentines6356 Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@vladseva2327 Well, we shall see...There are at least a few issues that have been hugely impacted, depending on who is in office.

    • @vladseva2327
      @vladseva2327 Місяць тому

      @@serpentines6356 which ones?

  • @andybaldman
    @andybaldman Місяць тому

    56:50 Wow, he really dodged that coffee shop question. (And not very skillfully.)

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River Місяць тому +11

    This guy has not read the book on chip mfg.. Hee reaches so many superficial tropes on mfg competition. For example the auto mfg. conditions. Japanese companies employ Americans

  • @jalight27
    @jalight27 10 днів тому

    48:08 Well when you jave one party actively working to destroy workers rights and pay and one that at least supports rights and pay for workers a little.... Well which one would you choose if you represented those workers? It's wild to see these intelligent people do such mental gymnastics like this man did towards the back third of the podcast.

  • @jaybeaton9301
    @jaybeaton9301 Місяць тому

    Michael Millerman on youtube is delving into the philosophical underpinnings of this emerging political movement.

  • @MiMiBrokenbourgh
    @MiMiBrokenbourgh Місяць тому +1

    truth hurts

  • @Brian-os9qj
    @Brian-os9qj Місяць тому

    This is a useful conversation for new theory of governing and who and what is the agenda. Oren Cass is interestingly in the middle of it. What or who from a Liberal pov can speak as well to the problem facing America?

  • @chrisocony
    @chrisocony Місяць тому +1

    At 1:01:00, it is noted that medical debt stems from bad luck, so Ezra thinks we should be more inclined to forgive that than education debt, which I will note stems from good luck, generally.

  • @cterbush
    @cterbush Місяць тому

    What a strange inversion! Tariffs without the kind of raw market intervention that Reagan that increased jobs wouldn’t work politically. And…China is just different due to geopolitics.

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River Місяць тому +14

    Biden is going to have to show sustained emotions in reaching these blue collar voters. I just don’t know that Biden has this energy in his tank

    • @yvonneplant9434
      @yvonneplant9434 Місяць тому

      He needs to talk about his own background more. More about how he grew up. About why his family left Scranton, PA.
      Trump has never spent a second without money. He has no idea what a struggle about money is like.
      In that sense he is NOT like Hitler at all who spent a time in Vienna without money and in poverty. Think many of us know that Hitler was a WWI vet too.

    • @Losttimes1992
      @Losttimes1992 Місяць тому +8

      @@yvonneplant9434So what he’s been a failed politician for 50 years jack shit to show. Remember you ain’t Wakanda unless you vote for me- Sleepy 46.

    • @marys3025
      @marys3025 Місяць тому

      @@Losttimes1992hmmm? Failed? He won a fair election and became the president.

    • @stellarjayatkins4749
      @stellarjayatkins4749 Місяць тому +1

      @@yvonneplant9434Biden has been in politics his entire life, and been a corrupt, incompetent liar since his first day.

    • @christinewimer5523
      @christinewimer5523 Місяць тому +2

      Your worried Bidens energy??? The man is Senile for gods sake. You should be worried about that.

  • @jasonhanson6563
    @jasonhanson6563 Місяць тому +8

    And what is happening the the Democrat Party? You literally have nazis marching in the streets 😂

    • @wtice4632
      @wtice4632 Місяць тому +4

      Where is that happening? Oh right, youre just a liar.

    • @direwolf6234
      @direwolf6234 Місяць тому

      nazis or hamas supporters ??

    • @wtice4632
      @wtice4632 Місяць тому +2

      @@direwolf6234 you meant to say zionists

    • @josephpadula2283
      @josephpadula2283 Місяць тому

      Black shirt , masked Antifa here in Portland .

  • @mathewwelsh9129
    @mathewwelsh9129 Місяць тому

    I hate to be so superficial about this, since I really enjoyed the content of the conversation, but yes I can hardly bear the classic righteous Millennial Cadence that both Ezra Klein and Sabrina Tavernise at The Daily, have.
    Whether it's true or not, the Rhythm and Cadence and vocal fry give the sense that they really think they're smart and love the sound of their own voices. It's always a relief when the other person starts talking because they tend to speak normally. I Hear other online presenters and podcasters imitating this annoying speech pattern.
    Again, I feel so superficial in taking so much time to make this comment but the speech pattern does make me cringe when I hear it and it makes it hard to thoroughly enjoy the topic.

  • @mipiace2504
    @mipiace2504 Місяць тому +1

    Trump and Vance are patriotic Americans that believe in the Constitution and the working class.

  • @CountyPharisee
    @CountyPharisee Місяць тому +5

    The male vocal fry of the host is unbearable.

  • @msimon6808
    @msimon6808 Місяць тому +6

    "Is the G.O.P.’s Economic Populism Real?"
    Is INFLATION real?

    • @christinewimer5523
      @christinewimer5523 Місяць тому

      Duh...go to the grocery store and see inflation is real, pay your electric bill, you gas, your insurance, cloths, appliances, every necessity you need. Then compare it to when Trump was presidents 1.4 inflation. Dems lie about inflation. All those necessities I mentioned are not included in their inflation stats. Gee..Wonder why. Read once in awhile.

    • @crayolascents
      @crayolascents Місяць тому

      Isn't CNN and NPR alleging that groceries are more affordable than ever, crime is lower than ever, and everything is better than ever? That's some serious reality denial but necessary to maintain their party line.

    • @direwolf6234
      @direwolf6234 Місяць тому

      except they don't have a plan .. oh wait ..tariffs ...

  • @Moses2elecboog
    @Moses2elecboog Місяць тому +2

    Good podcast

  • @WhispersfromtheWarp
    @WhispersfromtheWarp Місяць тому +7

    a very long and boring way to say - trump bad man and vance bad man lol.

    • @MermaidTyrone
      @MermaidTyrone Місяць тому +1

      Did you listen to the podcast? Because Ezra and the Republican actually agreed on more than they disagreed and nowhere did he even say "Trump bad". I think there's some derangement syndrome going on with you.

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River Місяць тому +2

    How much of the possibility of a one income family is a possibility?

    • @thatguy8869
      @thatguy8869 Місяць тому +5

      Part of the reason that one income families are not as possible is we are buying more toys: e.g., paying for internet, multiple cellphones and TVs, Netflix or other entertainment aps. And some things are getting more expensive due to more features, e.g., cars. Also, people raised in the Great Depression did not buy as much on credit.

    • @GurtiusMaximus
      @GurtiusMaximus Місяць тому +3

      @@thatguy8869 the Democrats entire platform is Debt. It’s why they push Student loans so much.

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому

      @@GurtiusMaximus and you think this debt is due to Democrats? I suppose you don’t realize that the huge tax credit that Trump gave in his presidency created a huge debt.?

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому +2

      @@GurtiusMaximus and on another note, Democrats don’t push student loans. They encourage education and people make decisions to get loans. They would like to make it more affordable for everyone to get an education without student loans. You are not reading enough.

    • @GurtiusMaximus
      @GurtiusMaximus Місяць тому

      @@lydiagoldsmith2931 Oh that’s really interesting, why do they offer to unconstitutionally forgive loans but don’t offer to stop loans in the future?
      Why has college done nothing but increase in costs since Obama was in office?
      It’s almost like they’re liars and you’re gullible.

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River Місяць тому +1

    Yeah but those subsidies are reality. Customers ill search for price differences, this is part of the ay markets do their natural inclinations.

  • @billierpaxton9260
    @billierpaxton9260 Місяць тому +13

    The more negative I hear spewed about Vance, the more I know Trump made the right choice.

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому +5

      And how about listening to some of that negative because baby just maybe there’s a real reason for it. People hate to think that they are wrong. And they hate to even consider it.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Місяць тому

      He covered both sides. Prior to 2020 and post. Literally did a 180!

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому +1

      @@jannichi6431 yes and why would anyone believe whatever he said. He’s changed sides to suit his ambition. And his wife used to be a democrat. Plus i heard on one of the pundits outlets they are denigrating her already because she isn’t white. Why would you ever go there with that party! I understand also he lied about his background in that book. His family from Appalacia think he created stories and they said they’re not real. I think Ron Howard is sorry he ever did that movie without checking out the story better. A word to anyone making a documentary or docudrama to be sure it’s true before making it. 😔

    • @minshew2039
      @minshew2039 Місяць тому

      You support an inconsistent, uncharming, grifter? Checks out, especially for a maga supporter.

  • @Hellojsm8823
    @Hellojsm8823 Місяць тому +16

    Vance is a role model of the American dream

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 Місяць тому +7

      He also called Trump Hitler 🤷‍♂️

    • @bentrinker1937
      @bentrinker1937 Місяць тому +4

      You start off being a Trump critic then run as Trump backed candidate?

    • @miguelgameiro8063
      @miguelgameiro8063 Місяць тому +7

      @@bentrinker1937so did Kamala and that landed her vice presidency

    • @fanthony
      @fanthony Місяць тому +7

      @@jacobjorgenson9285have you never changed your mind before?

    • @fanthony
      @fanthony Місяць тому +4

      @@bentrinker1937Saul of Tarsus and the Damascene Conversion come to mind.

  • @edwoodsr
    @edwoodsr Місяць тому

    More than any other issue, this convo highlights the competing factions within of both parties. I think the conclusion has to be that until party fragmentation is resolved, nothing much will be done.

  • @CB-lk6pm
    @CB-lk6pm Місяць тому

    GO J D !!!!!!

  • @thebeebyboys1751
    @thebeebyboys1751 Місяць тому +2

    This was the most intelligent thing I’ve heard from the right on the economy in 40 years

  • @trip8263
    @trip8263 Місяць тому

    The speech from MADELINE BRAME was the most interesting. Wow!!

  • @RM-xf9gi
    @RM-xf9gi Місяць тому

    Robots are coming so the US feels more confident in bringing manufacturing back to the United States.
    I am concerned about the pollution these new factories will produce.

    • @domcizek
      @domcizek Місяць тому

      WELL, CLOTHES WOULD TRIPPLE IN PRICE FOR EVERYONE , NO ONE COULD AFFORD TO BUY THEM

  • @amberackerson5916
    @amberackerson5916 Місяць тому

    Is that a shipping label on his ear?

  • @christopherchilton-smith6482
    @christopherchilton-smith6482 Місяць тому +3

    29:50 How is this relevant to tariffs? Does setting a tariff make companies consider making more stuff in the US like the quota? What point is he making? I understood that "paying a cost" to get us there part but where's the "get us there" ? Just mechanstically speaking, how do tariffs accomplish this?

    • @stellarjayatkins4749
      @stellarjayatkins4749 Місяць тому +4

      They make it more profitable to start companies and make products here.
      It’s a simplistic example, but think of it this way. If you can make a bicycle for roughly $15 in a country like Indonesia or China, but it costs $65 to make it in the U.S., the companies that make bikes in the U.S. can’t profitably compete.
      Then add in real life examples of Apple using essentially slave labor in China, and you have a system where American companies simply go out of business.

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому

      @@stellarjayatkins4749tariffs are paid by US COMPANIES. NOT THE EXPORTERS

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому +2

      US Tariffs are paid by US importers. Not the exporters. Something many people don’t understand and trump didn’t either. If US importers pay higher tariffs for imported goods they will pass the cost on to the US consumers. Namely us.

    • @lydiagoldsmith2931
      @lydiagoldsmith2931 Місяць тому

      @@stellarjayatkins4749if you pay duty on that imported bicycle it’s no longer $15

    • @Common_Sensei_
      @Common_Sensei_ Місяць тому +1

      ​@@lydiagoldsmith2931 It will just cause people to buy American because it evens the price on a more level playing field. American made is of better quality and so why not buy American for a few dollars more and it will last longer. It just levels the pricing.

  • @jaybeaton9301
    @jaybeaton9301 Місяць тому

    Very informative. Thank you.

  • @Assaultman0351
    @Assaultman0351 Місяць тому +2

    Wow you really have ZERO idea what you're talking about.

  • @HeavyK.
    @HeavyK. Місяць тому +1

    Is 32% costninflation real?

  • @wegder
    @wegder Місяць тому

    I hope we continue to have elections in the way we were used to, the new supreme court hasn't really had time to interpret the constitution, we might be shocked by their interpretation.

  • @Happyharold666
    @Happyharold666 Місяць тому +1

    Uhm.. me thinks you’re about to find out

  • @gary100dm
    @gary100dm Місяць тому

    The goal is human florishing.

  • @rwhllahazad4063
    @rwhllahazad4063 Місяць тому +1

    😂

  • @jeffyoung6616
    @jeffyoung6616 Місяць тому

    No

  • @kx4532
    @kx4532 Місяць тому

    TEMU-peNCE

  • @goywonder7341
    @goywonder7341 Місяць тому +3

    Left pocket, Right pocket, Back pocket, Same pants.

    • @user-xk1ff4gp7k
      @user-xk1ff4gp7k Місяць тому

      I don't think that's clever what are you trying to talk about fashion here you really said nothing

  • @ywtcc
    @ywtcc Місяць тому

    The way the political economy is set up, at the Federal level, almost 90% of the tax budget is on employment.
    There's also a huge amount of debt in circulation, adding to the burden.
    It does appear there's a representational deficit for labor, considering how much of the burden labor bears!
    This is where you'd traditionally expect a backlash from labor.
    The Republicans clearly know this, that's why they're making cultural overtones to organized labor.
    Also, they're beginning to favor industry and construction, and leaving education, and bureaucracy to the Democrats.
    There's a real alliance, here, don't get me wrong, problem is the (let's be gentle) counter-Marxist political economy has no bread for labor!
    Income tax cuts, lower debt levels, and issues of Corporate accountability don't appear to be politically feasible on the right.
    The Democrats must retaliate, by offering real economic gains for labor, and by expanding the notion of labor to almost any employee that pays income tax.
    It appears to me that the Republicans are taking the lead in reorienting the political economy, here.
    It is noticed in society that a lot of these manual labor jobs are extremely lucrative compared to many bureaucratic positions that require lots of education.
    Makes you wonder what kind of society we're creating here.
    An alternative needs to be offered, to the second world economy we're being offered by the Republicans.
    Clearly the incentives in the job and education market are dysfunctional. Does it really make sense to throw as much debt on the issue as possible?

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Місяць тому

      "Don't appear to be politically feasible". This is admittedly some hopium, but come on. This move towards labor in the Republican party has barely even started

  • @Angela-bk7yp
    @Angela-bk7yp Місяць тому

    Can you please forgive me for some of the time, i can't watch?

  • @davidgill6883
    @davidgill6883 Місяць тому

    I believe Ezra is out of his depth on tariff discussion. Also, 'Chip War' arguments had some structural fallacies.

  • @LiberalinOregon
    @LiberalinOregon Місяць тому +1

    But Biden is old.
    Where is your rant?