I bet it’s Toledo coach. The defensive backs coach /defensive pass game coordinator at Toledo is the former head coach at River rouge high school which he left after the 2021 season. Nick marsh the star all American receiver from rouge originally committed to msu when Tucker is there and now not sure. Even recently took a visit to Boulder. I bet the Toledo coach comes, brings the Toledo db coach with him, and they bring the all American receiver. Could be totally off base but my prediction. Also the Toledo db coach from River rouge currently has guys playing at Tennessee, Oklahoma, Texas tech, Clemson, and I wanna say Florida. His kids are highly productive major college players. He does a great job of player development.
@@MSUSpartanFootball marsh is playing in the army all American game and Deion is going after him hard. Rouge has players starting at major schools all across the country.
There’s too much hand-wringing at the university to not say “Whatever. Re-sign Harlan Barnett” It makes too much sense and what’s worse, he will bring back Jay Johnson and Scott Hazelton. Why? Because this thing is such a mess nobody wants to do any heavy lifting.They will take every possible easy way out because their only concern is to get a new prez. And that’s all the heavy lifting they’re going to agree to.
I wouldn't be surprised if they give barnett the job. It's their style to do so. He's a great person but he's too soft to be a head coach. He openly admitted to not disciplining his players. Whatever Ferguson wants Ferguson gets.
Jimbo! or urban are my top 2 Jimbo has that money he can really help get our recruiting going and urban is just a all around great coach even if he only wins 1 chip and then steps down due to health reasons again its worth the ring if we cant get urban or jimbo im fine with settling on any of the names that are rumoured to be potentially getting looks at big time gigs just as long as we dont hire someone in staff or keep barnett i think the program will be fine if we botch this hire we are gonna be set back for years to come potentially bottom feeders in the new big ten if we do get a new head coach we need to clean out staff aswell get rid of hazelton and jay johnson
Chip Kelly or Brian Hartline... le sigh. I'd love Urban, but that is an even bigger pipe dream than the two first names. God help us if it is Barnet or Tony Elliot. I'd take Elko or even Leipold.
First of all Texas A&M has wayyy more money than MSU could ever think about having. Secondly, if A&M wants him, they're getting him. They can out recruit you, better facilities, and it's SEC. Urban isn't going to MSU.
As a State fan I do not trust the board to ever do the right thing, I am prepared for them to make some asinine decision that will lead to me never watching the football program ever again
I’ve heard absolutely insulting comparisons between taking a chance on Candle to the likes of younger Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Brian Kelly 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Bob Stoops maybe. He's 63 but Mack Brown is still winning at 72. OU connections, friends with Dantonio to use his connections. Would excite me the most of the non-Urban candidates except for maybe Leonhard.
Idk who people think this team is that Urban Mayer is lining up to come here. Michigan State as a program is a team that has a 10 or 11 win season once or twice every 15 years when all the stars align. That is the program. They need a coach who can win 8-9 games with a 3 star roster and take advantage when Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State are having an off year to win that 9th or 10th win and in a flawless year maybe win 11 and win the big ten and go to the playoff and lose. That’s who they are. That’s who they’ve always been. They don’t have the brand to recruit as well in the places Michigan does like LA and Florida and Texas. It’s only going to get worse for them with Oregon, USC, Washington and UCLA coming… probably better than UCLA though so
no No NO to Jason Candle. I feel MSU is teeing him up to bring him in as well. That would be a weak play when State signed up for $95M. Find the money. Get the home run coach. No excuses.
I’ve heard absolutely insulting comparisons between taking a chance on Candle to the likes of younger Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Brian Kelly 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
That was never going to happen. Tony Elliot was never in the running. It was always Jedd Fisch, Dave Doeren, Jonathan Smith, or Mike Elko and ultimately wisely chose Jonathan Smith
Here me out on this a guy, he can build a program, knows offenses and has been in the area in his past and hates Michigan as much as Sparty fans do. Ok ready its Rich Rod. At least it would be entertaining if not successful.
Was he a good recruiter though? Best record he ever had was 9-1 in the COVID year, and then 9-4 in his first year where he was playing with Sumlins recruits.
@@OldEnglishD true- I just wonder what would happen if someone threw a blank check at him. Can’t hurt- but he does strike me as someone who wants to win at Louisville. In the ACC he can make it happen
he was definitely hands-on, took things into his own hands but the worry would be his undisclosed "medical condition" given they could be multiple strokes
MSU will be eating at the kids table when it comes to the next coach. They are a basketball school that wants to be a football school. I think Valenit is pissed because they are going to hire the Toledo coach.
See more of a Dave Doreren, Jedd Fisch, or Mike Elko type than Jason Candle. Candle’s hire wouldn’t likely go over well with the fanbase or the donors of MSU
Matt Campbell is a name that makes a lot of sense that nobody seems to mention. Deep Ohio ties, and he's taken ISU as far as he can take them. He needs a reboot in case something happens at ISU due to recruiting and the bottom falls out.
@@WWXspartan058 Iowa State is currently 5-2 in a much tougher conference than the B1G. I wouldn't call them "awful". But the idea is that the ceiling is probably higher at MSU.
@@BallzDeep666 How are MSU fans in a position to outright refuse a coach like Matt Campbell? Unless you buy into the Valenti-ism that MSU is an elite job--It's not. No coach is scrambling to take this position in a new B1G when you already have openings at A&M, UCLA, and Mississippi State (short of Ishbia writing a blank check to the AD). MSU is in a position where they: A) hire a 50+ year old retread (Clawson-type), B) hire an up-and-comer that nobody knows about and would cause the fan base to throw cold water on it (Candle, Silverfield, Clark from ASU, or if you want to get crazy someone like Cris Reisert from Tiffin or Anese from Ferris but that would be more of a MAC-tier move), C) hire a buy-low candidate who could do a better job at MSU than they can do at their current job (I think Matt Campbell or Dave Doeren would fall into this camp), D) hire a college coordinator with no HC experience or some NFL assistant with no name recognition, also causing a fan revolt. Elko and Campbell are the only semi-splashy hires that MSU can theoretically make. Maybe you can get Chip Kelly after he gets fired at UCLA. Chadwell is fine at Liberty for another year and he is waiting for the right job.
@TgOdDaNgLeZ08 they want a wholesome image, not a football program. If they wanted a program and were dedicated to a top program we wouldn't be arguing like children
Explain how? As someone who lives on the Mississippi border and is from Michigan, that makes zero sense. The bulldogs have no where near the boosters and alumni base of Michigan state. Mississippi state cannot get top players. They get no NIL in stark Vegas. And get nowhere near the prime time games as the Spartans.
Even as a Michigan fan I would disagree... missipi state boosters don't invest in their football team...at least Michigan state when they were good their fans invested and cared about their programs..
@@putansug they are not equal whatsoever. Mississippi state is a very hard school to get recruits to come to and the alumni base is nothing like Michigan state. Michigan state goes to a rose bowl and the price of tickets of through the roof. Mississippi state goes to the orange bowl and tickets are available everywhere. As someone who went to Michigan state and now lives in the Mississippi border, it’s no comparison. Plus outside of Starkville there is no Mississippi state fan base. Anywhere in Mississippi outside Starkville is all ole Miss fans. You find Spartan people everywhere in Michigan and don’t even get started with Chicago.
Hire stallions he already knows the system
Really! Keep the energy on msu!
That's good. Haha.
I almost spat out my coffee. Great comment.
not a hard system really - lose then lose again
Lmao
I bet it’s Toledo coach. The defensive backs coach /defensive pass game coordinator at Toledo is the former head coach at River rouge high school which he left after the 2021 season. Nick marsh the star all American receiver from rouge originally committed to msu when Tucker is there and now not sure. Even recently took a visit to Boulder. I bet the Toledo coach comes, brings the Toledo db coach with him, and they bring the all American receiver. Could be totally off base but my prediction.
Also the Toledo db coach from River rouge currently has guys playing at Tennessee, Oklahoma, Texas tech, Clemson, and I wanna say Florida. His kids are highly productive major college players. He does a great job of player development.
I can imagine worse scenarios.
@@MSUSpartanFootball marsh is playing in the army all American game and Deion is going after him hard. Rouge has players starting at major schools all across the country.
@@jaredgarrison333 Dion = $$$
Good guess
There’s too much hand-wringing at the university to not say “Whatever. Re-sign Harlan Barnett” It makes too much sense and what’s worse, he will bring back Jay Johnson and Scott Hazelton. Why? Because this thing is such a mess nobody wants to do any heavy lifting.They will take every possible easy way out because their only concern is to get a new prez. And that’s all the heavy lifting they’re going to agree to.
I wouldn't be surprised if they give barnett the job. It's their style to do so. He's a great person but he's too soft to be a head coach. He openly admitted to not disciplining his players. Whatever Ferguson wants Ferguson gets.
If it's Dan Enos I'm hopping on the fan transfer portal
Simple Jack is still available
Jimbo! or urban are my top 2 Jimbo has that money he can really help get our recruiting going and urban is just a all around great coach even if he only wins 1 chip and then steps down due to health reasons again its worth the ring if we cant get urban or jimbo im fine with settling on any of the names that are rumoured to be potentially getting looks at big time gigs just as long as we dont hire someone in staff or keep barnett i think the program will be fine if we botch this hire we are gonna be set back for years to come potentially bottom feeders in the new big ten if we do get a new head coach we need to clean out staff aswell get rid of hazelton and jay johnson
@@RJM12345 7 8 9 wins is ok at msu we dont expect national championships
It’ll be Barnett. Can’t do any better with the current state/reputation of the program. 🤷♂️
Chip Kelly or Brian Hartline... le sigh. I'd love Urban, but that is an even bigger pipe dream than the two first names. God help us if it is Barnet or Tony Elliot. I'd take Elko or even Leipold.
I totally agree Michigan State either goes big or goes home that’s it!!!
Needs to be Mike Elko!
Now I wanna know what Rico said….
Probably Jason Candle
Something suckupy.
@@smsv2806 There are far worse choices than candle. HB is getting an interview and Tony Elliot is rumored too.
Tony Elliot or Harlon Barnett probably
Urban would never position himself to be in a weaker situation vs Michigan. No way he becomes our coach
ONLY 2 people I am interested in as an alum are Urban and Elko....in that order.
I think the urban hopes were dashed with BOT interference yet again.
You absolutely CANNOT hire Enos, Narduzzi, Tressel, or Barrnett....i will srtaight up throw my MSU gear in the trash.
It’s Jason Candle. He would match the 4-5 year rebuild coach mentioned. I’ll bet everything I own.
Jason Candle will be interviewed. As will HB and potentially Tony Elliot, which scare me infinitely more.
Urban or bust. That simple.
Not a chance. Not taking a demotion
Wish in one hand and poop in another. See which one fills up first. LOL. He will be at A&M long before MSU, if he goes anywhere, which I doubt.
Ok, well then its bust for me if I'm to believe you two insiders. Not much to debate here if that's what you're looking for.
First of all Texas A&M has wayyy more money than MSU could ever think about having. Secondly, if A&M wants him, they're getting him. They can out recruit you, better facilities, and it's SEC. Urban isn't going to MSU.
@@jonathanmoody390 Ok, so again, then it's bust. Not sure what you all are looking for here. Not trying to debate, just sharing my view.
If Haller and the Board mess this up, I’m down for a strike. I’m ok with being a basketball fan until the program stops smoking crack
i often wonder if Mike would take the job if they offered it
As a State fan I do not trust the board to ever do the right thing, I am prepared for them to make some asinine decision that will lead to me never watching the football program ever again
They are going to hire a total bum
I’ve heard absolutely insulting comparisons between taking a chance on Candle to the likes of younger Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Brian Kelly 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
JimBo or Urban Meyer. In reality they should look for a slightly less Trendy coach. A few quality guys will be available at the playoff's.
Bob Stoops maybe. He's 63 but Mack Brown is still winning at 72. OU connections, friends with Dantonio to use his connections. Would excite me the most of the non-Urban candidates except for maybe Leonhard.
I think Rico was bringing up Narduzzi
Nah...I think they are hiring the Toledo coach.
No. I think he’s talking about rehiring Barnett
@@kaivrock As a Michigan fan, I would support that.
Break Glass Time: reinstate Tick immediately !
Idk who people think this team is that Urban Mayer is lining up to come here. Michigan State as a program is a team that has a 10 or 11 win season once or twice every 15 years when all the stars align. That is the program. They need a coach who can win 8-9 games with a 3 star roster and take advantage when Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State are having an off year to win that 9th or 10th win and in a flawless year maybe win 11 and win the big ten and go to the playoff and lose. That’s who they are. That’s who they’ve always been. They don’t have the brand to recruit as well in the places Michigan does like LA and Florida and Texas. It’s only going to get worse for them with Oregon, USC, Washington and UCLA coming… probably better than UCLA though so
Cross out USC, UCLA, Washington (for now). Oregon is the only one of the 4 new BIG10 that are built to last for years as a potential “dynasty”
What’s Tom Herman up to?
Thought about that too. He'd be one of the 3 G5 candidates I'd consider.
Tom Herman is busy coaching Florida Atlantic to a 500 record in the safe confines of Boca Raton Florida so a big no thank u to him
No faith in MSU board, Prez, AD to get this search right
PLEASE....no more coaches named John Smith!!
Guessing here, and knowing the idiocy of the board, Mark Dantonio
Mike wanted C Kelly a month ago ...now he fired lol
You are probably better off trying to catch lightning in a bottle with an up and Comer than to get a retread like C Kelly.
no No NO to Jason Candle. I feel MSU is teeing him up to bring him in as well. That would be a weak play when State signed up for $95M. Find the money. Get the home run coach. No excuses.
I’ve heard absolutely insulting comparisons between taking a chance on Candle to the likes of younger Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Brian Kelly 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
MSU football = New Rutgers Football
Wait - is the Urban wet dream over? Heard the Virginia guy is in the running - that's about your speed sparty. Keep it in the slowwwww lane boys.
That was never going to happen. Tony Elliot was never in the running. It was always Jedd Fisch, Dave Doeren, Jonathan Smith, or Mike Elko and ultimately wisely chose Jonathan Smith
Yosemite Sam
Mike Elko would be a solid hire, especially since a ton of his Duke players would transfer with him.
Not one kid from Duke would ever leave Duke for MSU 🤡
@@pesci19source?
@@midnighter64because those kids are their to get a elite education not some community college level degree at msu
@@cameronclark3927
-Someone who didn’t graduate from Kindergarten
Because as we all know Duke is a football powerhouse
Lance Leipold
He isn’t comjbg here.
Narduzzi? C'mon man
I imagine what Rico told him is they’re considering keeping Harlon Barnett. That’s the only thing I can imagine having Mike that upset.
I'm hearing rumblings of Tony Elliot too which would be even worse.
I have a bad feeling it's going to be Harlon or Mike Tressel.
Literally 0% chance it is Barnett. Don’t be ridiculous
Here me out on this a guy, he can build a program, knows offenses and has been in the area in his past and hates Michigan as much as Sparty fans do. Ok ready its Rich Rod. At least it would be entertaining if not successful.
Question should be who wants the job?! 😊
We’ll take a Jimbo
He was a hell of a recruiter at A&M.
Was he a good recruiter though? Best record he ever had was 9-1 in the COVID year, and then 9-4 in his first year where he was playing with Sumlins recruits.
@@spartaninvirginia he’s a better recruiter and bigger name than anyone on MSU’s rumored list currently
@@spartaninvirginia he won a natty at FSU. I don't know what happened at TAM. Maybe he got paid and went through the motions.
Why not go after Jeff Brohm?
He's at his alma mater, and left Purdue for them. But he's a great coach.
@@OldEnglishD true- I just wonder what would happen if someone threw a blank check at him.
Can’t hurt- but he does strike me as someone who wants to win at Louisville. In the ACC he can make it happen
Brohm is downgrading for msu.
@@WoodyJ98 Great point--it couldn't hurt.
go young and offense and dump money into recruiting/nil.
Dear God not Tony Elliot…
They'll probably hire another token
Michigan state mad cuz bad😂
Hire tuggs back. He didn't do anything wrong.
he was definitely hands-on, took things into his own hands but the worry would be his undisclosed "medical condition" given they could be multiple strokes
I'm hearing HB is getting an interview.
They are giving him an interview. I think he has a very poor chance of getting the job despite seeming like a great person and a loyal Spartan.
I like to watch this to see how dumb Rico is damet 💀
MSU will be eating at the kids table when it comes to the next coach. They are a basketball school that wants to be a football school. I think Valenit is pissed because they are going to hire the Toledo coach.
See more of a Dave Doreren, Jedd Fisch, or Mike Elko type than Jason Candle. Candle’s hire wouldn’t likely go over well with the fanbase or the donors of MSU
After listening no wonder you don’t cover this team, it’s pathetic. I get why you only talk about Michigan
Matt Campbell is a name that makes a lot of sense that nobody seems to mention. Deep Ohio ties, and he's taken ISU as far as he can take them. He needs a reboot in case something happens at ISU due to recruiting and the bottom falls out.
The bottom already fell out, they're awful
Everyone has mentioned him and no one wants him.
@@WWXspartan058 Iowa State is currently 5-2 in a much tougher conference than the B1G. I wouldn't call them "awful". But the idea is that the ceiling is probably higher at MSU.
@@JamesSmith-nc9jmhe was 4-8 last year, no thanks he can stay right there and be mid
@@BallzDeep666 How are MSU fans in a position to outright refuse a coach like Matt Campbell? Unless you buy into the Valenti-ism that MSU is an elite job--It's not. No coach is scrambling to take this position in a new B1G when you already have openings at A&M, UCLA, and Mississippi State (short of Ishbia writing a blank check to the AD).
MSU is in a position where they: A) hire a 50+ year old retread (Clawson-type), B) hire an up-and-comer that nobody knows about and would cause the fan base to throw cold water on it (Candle, Silverfield, Clark from ASU, or if you want to get crazy someone like Cris Reisert from Tiffin or Anese from Ferris but that would be more of a MAC-tier move), C) hire a buy-low candidate who could do a better job at MSU than they can do at their current job (I think Matt Campbell or Dave Doeren would fall into this camp), D) hire a college coordinator with no HC experience or some NFL assistant with no name recognition, also causing a fan revolt.
Elko and Campbell are the only semi-splashy hires that MSU can theoretically make. Maybe you can get Chip Kelly after he gets fired at UCLA. Chadwell is fine at Liberty for another year and he is waiting for the right job.
I think that Barnett is doing so good right now
Boo!
@@ncline96 😂
Pat Narduzzi will return.
As Michigan I'm tired of playing weak big ten west teams crybaby teams yeah we be better team if played in SEC boring watching beat downs
Talk about that 49-0 loss?
Game will be vacated lil boi 😂😂😂
@@Camalamadingdon 🥱🥱🥱 enjoy watching us in the playoffs
The administration will be more than happy with a narduzzi and so will most of the fans
You're delusional if you think msu fans want narduzzi back here
@TgOdDaNgLeZ08 they want a wholesome image, not a football program. If they wanted a program and were dedicated to a top program we wouldn't be arguing like children
@@stevenculver6416no fans want Narduzzi and I imagine the donor base will cripple this decision
I laugh that MSU think that they are this great program. MSU was only good because Michigan was bad.
I mean from 2013 to 2015 they were legit pretty good. 2013 I'd say was at least as good as your 2021 team.
Mississippi State is a better job than Michigan State. Hands down.
Explain how? As someone who lives on the Mississippi border and is from Michigan, that makes zero sense. The bulldogs have no where near the boosters and alumni base of Michigan state. Mississippi state cannot get top players. They get no NIL in stark Vegas. And get nowhere near the prime time games as the Spartans.
Walmarter
Even as a Michigan fan I would disagree... missipi state boosters don't invest in their football team...at least Michigan state when they were good their fans invested and cared about their programs..
I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning. IMO it's at the very least equal.
@@putansug they are not equal whatsoever. Mississippi state is a very hard school to get recruits to come to and the alumni base is nothing like Michigan state. Michigan state goes to a rose bowl and the price of tickets of through the roof. Mississippi state goes to the orange bowl and tickets are available everywhere. As someone who went to Michigan state and now lives in the Mississippi border, it’s no comparison. Plus outside of Starkville there is no Mississippi state fan base. Anywhere in Mississippi outside Starkville is all ole Miss fans. You find Spartan people everywhere in Michigan and don’t even get started with Chicago.
3rd tier program will get a 3rd tier coach.