This Paid PS5 Feature Just Got Better, And Free. | Devs Don't See Point In PS5 Pro. - [LTPS
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
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We've got a busy week in the PlayStation world as we exit GDC 2024 and PAX East. We've got word that developers don't see the value in PS5 Pro, and publishers raising concerns about supporting Xbox amid their falling sales in Europe. From PAX we have details on the FFXVI DLC The Rising Tide. And also this week we have Stellar Blade press previews and demo! We also can't forget Sony is continuing to add incremental features to PS5 by announcing changes to Game Help, and launching a new feature in beta for the PS Mobile app. Definitely a lot to unpack this week, so could you please clear some room on that table so I can get this stuff out. It'll be easier to sort if we take everything out first and start looking at it from there.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro & PS Plus Reminder
0:17 - PS Plus Essential April Lineup
1:20 - Another Star Wars Game Coming To PS Plus Premium
2:00 - Community Game Help Feature Coming, Free For Everyone
6:06 - New Feature For PS Mobile App Out Now
8:00 - Bend Studio Is Looking For Live Service Experience
14:22 - Minor Update On Santa Monica Game From Cory Barlog
15:48 - Horizon Forbidden West's PC Launch
17:52 - Sony Releases IP For Predator Hunting Grounds
19:32 - New Trailer & Details For FFXVI The Rising Tide
21:20 - Patch For FFXVI Includes QoL Improvements
22:22 - Stellar Blade Press Previews & Demo
24:12 - PS VR2 Firmware Shows Evidence Of Direct PC Support
27:46 - GDC 2024: Devs Don't See Point In PS5
30:53 - GDC 2024: Big Publisher Questions Supporting Xbox
36:23 - RUMOR: TLOU HBO Season 2 Coming March or April 2025
37:41 - Jim Ryan Collectible On PlayStation Stars
40:03 - Let's Talk Plus
40:34 - Let's Talk Plus
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I had no idea the Game Help stuff was pay walled. I was wondering why basically only launch titles seemed to support it.
41 minutes of goodness. Longest LTPS yet?
Yes
Longer the better
@@NiceDiggzdef what she said 👀
Anyone can find out what he covers quicker than when he posts and so much of the LTPS is opinionated filler
@@ryanwilliam95 it's his show, having an opinion on the topics in the video is not filler.
I’m hoping with Jim Ryan gone the new leaders will push for more PS2 emulation or even possibly PS3 emulation.
There are actually rumours of Sony partnering with PCSX2 team to get a PS2 emulation onto the PS5 for PS2 games, so we may see it happening.
@@saccollathe cold water has already been poured on that rumour, plus the actual team in question are no longer associated with PCSX2
That was never a Jim Ryan problem (if it was, there wouldn't be any PS1 or PSP emulators in the first place right now). A lot of it is down to complex licensing issues (besides their own published games) and poor emulators. The one that the current small library uses doesn't work very well on PS5 so they need to scrap it and make a new one first.
There is no money in that
That will cost them money
I’d imagine game help going free is them just realizing UA-cam exists and is free.
Lol true
Yep when you get stuck in a game go to UA-cam and type it in their is always a video for it.
Ah time for playstation news from the only good sony centric channel here!
Sacred Symbols?
@@proggz39he should stand down
What about King Thrash?
King Thrash, Sacred Symbols, Puerto Rock, and Emmanuel.
Mystic Ryan isn't the only good PlayStation centric channel. (Not Sony, PlayStation specifically. Idk why you said Sony, he doesn't cover the entire company)
King Thrash and Puerto Rock are PlayStation fanboys and also very toxic, those two are all about console wars, if you are into console wars then I understand why you would listen to those two clowns.@@victory7763
That lore feature would be AMAZING for the Horizon games
And death stranding and ragnarok
PS5 Pro biggest supporters will be Sony first party Studio's it's self. Im interested in PS5 Pro but I wanna see a strong first party line up of Games PlayStation is known for. And the abilities of the more powerful hardware.
Ghost of Tsushima 2 and Wolverine at 12k, 3,000hz
Yeah let’s prioritize resolution and make games 8k when it can barely run native 4k 60
@@melu0o I heard the main focus of Pro will the better Frame Rates and Ray Tracing
Dynamic 4K 120Hz with PSSR.
as someone who gave up on sony after PS4, i don't regret it, this gen seems devoid of any energy, excitement
Glad to see game guide improve, always felt unnessesary to paywall, hope they do the same for game trials especially since it's a feature that helps players and sells more games
Thanks brother ! Always look forward to LTPS on Fridays ! Keep up the great work !
My poor PS5 is with SquareTrade at the moment due to getting caught in a lightning strike power surge. They almost didn't want to help me because it happened less than a month after my warranty* I bought with them expired (Feb 2021-Feb 2024), but thankfully they changed their mind.
*Sony offered extended warranties with the Vita and PS4, which I purchased. They did not offer them with PS5 for some reason.
Hopefully you haven't lost your game saves!
You gotta use a Surge Protector Outlet set.
I use the Rocket Fish Best Buy branded ones. But you do have to replace it once the Surge limit is reached to keep your stuff protected.
It does indicate when it's protected, and when it isn't. . . I personally rather buy an outlet bar over and over than lose a whole console and have to replace it with another $499 purchase.
@cMARVEL360 I did, but apparently it didn't work. I'll have to look into the one you have, as I've been looking at replacing it. I was mainly looking into the APC brand.
Thankfully the other stuff that was connected to it didn't get messed up (Internet Router, Wii U, Dreamcast, charging stands for Wii U GamePad, DualSense, Series X controllers). The Xbox Series X didn't get damaged because it wasn't plugged in due to non-frequent use.
Also, I wasn't aware this was a thing you could do, but I'm looking into whole home surge protectors too.
@@dapperfan44I could be wrong, but pretty sure a surge protected power strip/ outlet won't protect U against lightning strikes. The surge protection is only for slight power fluctuations on the grid.
Probably the only way to protect against lighting strikes is to disconnect devices from the outlet during storms. Again, could b wrong, but I wouldnt count on that stuff protecting against lightning
@@magnetic_zero I have a surge protector power strip
Stuff we need in future PlayStation updates
1. Being able to separate party chat audio from recordings when sharing them
2. Being able to use voice keyboard inside of games
3. Fix an annoying bug that suspends your game when trying to save a clip with a full storage, thus deleting your clip
4. Being able to record System UI
5. Explore tab in all regions
6. This is more of a visual thing but it would be cool to make the default selection in the quick menu to be on the home button rather than being on the far left
7. I'm not a storage expert but if it's possible to make video clips and screenshots to save on your m.2 SSD that would be helpful!
8. Letting more 3rd party services the ability to create media apps for the PlayStation
9. PlayStation Stars being in all regions
10. Being able to see game update history
11. Backing up save files using a usb on PS5 and not being limited to cloud storage only
12. PS4 players should be able to see your share screen
13. Ability to buy avatars on ps5 like you used to do on ps4
These were some of the most important things that the current state for the PS5 software need after owning the console since launch day.
Let me know if there are more options you'd like to see added in the replies and I'll add them to the list
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A few of these I agree with you like being able to record the UI. If you don't mind, I would like to add your ideas to mine in a letter I plan to send off to Sony/PS and ofc mention your YT name for credit
@TISUAL sure you can do whatever you want with this list..
I mean the main reason I made this list is me hoping that someone who works at Sony can see it!
#1 you can, its in the options ro include party audio or not lol
@@proskills991 ok thank you
@@kiwiizzz that's not what I meant.
I was saying make there an option to separate party chat from recordings after it being saved not before. This can be useful for sharing clips and do not want to share the party audio
This last news caught me by surprise because I didn't see it make any headlines, but it's quite serious. If publishers start dropping direct support for shipping games for xbox no wonder they want to be more open to get different stores in their platform.
You got the events backwards. Xbox sales have been dipping year over year. And the rumors for months now have been that Xbox games will also come to ps5. They’ve already been going to PC. So developers are now wondering why they should develop for Xbox and not just PS and PC since Xbox is becoming a much smaller market are showing their own lack of confidence in their ability to make money on their own systems.
If someone tells you they’re not confident in their business why would you invest in it?
Xbox is tryna further backwards compatibility and do many other things.
They haven't fully gave up on physical as they dumped $100 million into GameStop 3 years ago..
When the whole game stop fiasco happened...
@@Sin-Tax
Then again if Xbox does die PlayStation will have no competition which could be bad
@@iatepacman745 Not could. No competition is bad for us gamers, always.
Yes young Ryan, you finally understand. The longer the video, the happier we are 🙏🏾😂
Do devs just really not understand that people want 60fps? 30 is "fine" but 60 is so much better
Not only game news, but your game industry coverage and analysis are always very informative. Keep up the good work @Mystic !!
Inmortals of Aveum looks awesome, been waiting to buy it on a better sale. Now i get it for no extra cost🙌
What a week. And about to download the demo of Stellar Blade. Thanks Ryan, for the good news.
These new PS features actually sound useful!
I used game help to platinum ratchet and clank: rift apart, it was so convenient.
Yeah, I used game help to help me platinum The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered. What was really handy was it only showed me which collectibles that I was missing. It was very handy.
41 minutes of mystic ryan on my screen??!
Gay?
A blessing 🙏
@@KaizerSozayeisn’t he tho
Gay
Wgaf
Happy Good Friday to you and Melissa and your family ☺️☺️
Nice to see some more features being added to the PS app. It’s always seemed a bit light on useful content.
Ooooo that Lore feature is a great idea
Stellar Blade is cool. It really started to click when I unlocked the "Mikiri Counter" type move.
Can we have more 40+ minute LTPS? Love it!
Always a fan of the updates - concise - on point and quickly becoming the only PlayStation update channel I ever watch
concise? the video is 40 minutes long xD
Just downloaded Stellar Blade demo and played through it. Thanks for weekly Playstation news!
Always look forward to.yiur Friday video.big love from Scotland 🏴
Man, Stellar Blade really wasn't on my radar. Then I played the demo. Now I'm counting the days 😅
I think the biggest value PS5 Pro will being, is the performance for additional ray tracing features support, as well as 60 fps through its machine learning upscaling. At least it is my hope that a great ML upscaling similar to DLSS will allow games to have both image quality and 60fps in the future.
II think the PSVR2 adapter would be needed for pretty much every desktop PC, with the only exception being some top end AMD cards have USB C out on them (and older nvidia) but if you have a laptop you wont need an adapter most likely. Since USB C with higher power, displayport and USB 3 is basically standard. Only issue might be some might be wired to the igpu (but many are wired directly) which may be problematic for latency (or maybe not) for VR
Great video. Bend should know we want Days Gone 2. Last thing I want is another live service game..
I'm sticking with my original PS5 launch console. Didn't get for the slim model and definitely not getting the Pro either.
The slim model wasn't an upgrade in any way though. If anything it was a bit of a downgrade. A pro model would be an upgrade.
The updated speaker volume on controller was much needed can’t believe it took them 3 years to do it
Dragons dogma 2 and all the 40 fps vrr mode games will see a nice bump with the ps5 pro im all for it.
I made sure to get the Jim Ryan PS Stars Collectible 😂
What is the point of the Stars thing? As far as I know you can't earn anything tangible. With Xbox Rewards you can convert your points to money off vouchers or help pay for game pass.
Either I'm not lucky or something's wrong because while the Demo is out, I've yet to actually see it myself. I checked it out on the PS Store off-console and I just get an error when trying to add it to my Library.
Game Help always sounded really useful but of course I don't have PlayStation Plus so it is not helpful. Now that we are getting Community Game Help I have the opportunity to provide help in places I have struggled. I am very excited.
If at least they made PS5 Pro as horizontal box so it can fit in my cabinet, no flimsy stands, then I might be interested
I personally wouldn’t mind trading in towards a ps5 pro this holiday season. I’m sure many games old and new will benefit from the gate so I don’t see an issue as a consumer.
As someone who plays both PS5 and PSVR2 games, I can literally only see PSVR2 developers being able to use a PS5 PRO to its fullest.
Such a great channel. I won’t be surprised when it gets to 5 million subs.
can’t wait for the FF16 DLC i fucking love FF16
Perhaps these Devs need reminding that their obsession with pushing pointless graphical features over image quality and frame rate is the whole reason the Pro exists.
No-one outside of Digital Foundry gives a crap whether the underside of a table is correctly lit, or if the entire level is reflected in a character's eyes.
Insomniac and Guerilla have shown that games can be incredibly beautiful and still have great image quality at 60fps, all it takes is to use the "old" tried and tested shortcuts and tricks rather than the more accurate but ultimately unnecessary techniques like Ray-Tracing.
Save all the fancy stuff for next generation when the hardware is more capable of doing it.
Yep, all true!
EXACTLY!
RIP Bend. I was hoping for a new Syphon Filter.
PS VR2 firmly on the shelf there I see.
So frustrating. If anyone was going to be able to push the format to ubiquity, it was PlayStation
What a waste
FF16 is one of the few PS exclusive games I haven't picked up, but I'm glad to hear they are rolling out additional DLC and QoL updates. I absolutely loved the Demo. With the continued support, I'm hoping it means we may see a PS5 pro update in the future that allows it to run at 60 fps in resolution mode (or at least a locked 40 fps for those with a 120 hz tv) or potentially uses better upscaling tech for performance mode with PSSR. The poor performance mode results combined with the decision to used FSR1 just put me off from deciding to immediately buy. Hopefully they also release a complete edition that includes all updates and DLC on disc. One of those games I know I will get, just a matter of when is right time to pick it up.
That beeping sound is crazy. Lol
Was gonna watch this at work, but 41 min? Can't wait to watch lmao
Immortal is $15 at my local Walmart, might want to check yours.
Mystic got the same TV stand as me😂 straight from Walmart💪🏾 that thing cost like 200 something dollars
Love the longer format ahould start a podcast or make these into podcast episodes
I wish we got Days Gone 2
Same loved the first game really wish Bend Studio got the chance to work on a sequel Days Gone could have been the next great franchise.
Bend Studio's next game looking spooky...
0:45 definitely made a “modern audience” lol
The spec differences of the PS5 Pro, in addition to 1TB vs 840GB storage don't make it a very compelling proposition. It seems pointless to both consumers and devs alike.
My boy needs his own playstation podcast
They still need to fix the stutters outside of combat in FF16
Off topic but congrats to Take 2 Interactive for buying long time partner Gear Box Games.
Thank you for keeping the Days Gone 2 situation clear. It's interesting to me how so many people keep thinking that it was Sony proper who rejected the pitch when in reality (at least according to Garvin and Ross) it didn't make it past Bend leadership.
Game Help being locked behind a subscription when you can search up anything on the internet is so CRAZY
I want Killzone 1, 2 & 3 remastered for the PS5.
Oh man I had rebel assault 2 on pc. Graphics blew my mind as a kid lol. So funny seeing what it looks like now.
Always great info, Thank You! For me, I feel studios still should develop good single player games. Figure a way to make their money that way. Lots of people don’t have time to play online and get good to compete with people that play 10-16 hours a day. No fun spending the hour or 2 you might get to play with getting your butt kicked😂. If they make more games like Horizon, GoW, Last of Us, Witcher, etc… I will pay 100+ for those games.. I put 200-300 hours in them… boy do I get my money’s worth!
If they ever run out of Star War games from the PS1/PSP games they could always port the PC games
Bend Studio being quiet for so long after Days Gone only now to be revealed to be working on a live service game has to be one of the most disappointing news this year. My anticipation for their new project has totally evaporated.
Same.
Unfortunately Horizon Forbidden West actually does have a few pretty significant issues. Essentially there seems to be some sort of memory leak or something. After 15 minutes to an hour the game can drop to half its framerate and get stuck there. Fast traveling seems to trigger it faster. Some people can avoid it by turning off Nvidia reflex or HAGs in windows. But unfortunately not everyone
Nice thing to listen while farming for some trophies
Let’s go, people. Get this man’s awesome PlayStation channel up to 1M subs. ☝🏻
PS VR2 headsets on the shelf at Walmart in Clarence, NY.
Very excited for Stellar Blade :)
I am not bothering to play Stellar Blade demo, I have gone straight to just preordering the game
I'm happy everything is going good with "Cory and the game. Sounds like a fantastic project. 👏
So excited for Jim Ryan leaving, he was driving PlayStation into the ground with such a huge push for live service games
Damn, today is Friday!
All I want is calibration tool for controllers. I replace analog sticks that are drifting, but have to go through hell to center them
we need that desperately I hate stick drift.i experience stick drift more on the ps5 than I ever did on ps4.
Devs don't see a point in PS5 Pro.
Also devs: Can not achieve a stable 60 fps even reducing the resolution to 720p, heck they can't even get a steady 30 fps lately.
Sure in most cases its not a PS5 fault, but in the state of the game industry today, things are not going to improve in the future.
So In my opinion, PS5 Pro is very much needed.
Actually the exact opposite is the case. If devs can't use the already strong hardware and optimise their games, giving them more hardware will only result in more problems for the current hardware. The industry is in a catastrophic state and needs to stabilise first.
I don't know why, but seemed that we went from a few months of "this game in performance mode looks blurry" to "what is the point of the PS5 Pro".
The point is simple, visually appealing performance modes of demanding games and even better visuals in the quality modes.
@@derjoghurtmitderecke Yeah i agree, but since release of ps5 pro is inevitable, at least it will be able to bruteforce higher dynamic resolution and decent image quality in most future samples of "great optimization".
I love the song I dunno Grape
Bend Studio going live service is just sad. Days Gone is one of my favorites of last gen.
I guess it’s going to be good for people who like live service games.
Cheers.
Im sitting here with my PS4 PRO , waiting for its successor ...
(yip, i never made the jump yet)
we need a PS5 Pro that is good enough to eliminate making choices between Performance and Graphics modes...
Could be like a ghost of Tsushima where it was single player but they had legends that was a multiplayer live service experience
I don't understand the negativity around PS5 Pro. It is not a generation change - so people aren't going to miss out on games and don't have to buy one. Also, about the devs, they literally don't have to do anything - Sony's intentionally built it such that there are not back-compat issues especially the CPU side. All the devs have to do is to make sure it runs on PS5 and it'll automatically run the Pro as well as it does on the base model if not better.
Because they sold us a mediocre original console that had very little to shoe for it already
@@KnucklesWTD If it is mediocre as you say then then Pro is even more necessary. And the devs saying that the PS5 hasn't utilised its full potential are straight up lying.
@@--Anurag-- they are scammers
@@--Anurag--it’s just a troll, ignore it.
I would wait and see if you are not sure. Most of the discourse around PS5 Pro is just pure speculation at worst and educated guesses at best.
I think PSSR makes it a very interesting proposition, but I’m too just speculating.
Cheers.
@@DavideDavini Fair. I feel the same. I think that the quality of PSSR will be a big factor.
05:05 that's how I got spoilers for God of War: Ragnarok.
So glad the Help feature is going free (as it should've always been). The community aspect could be really great if it works well.
PS VR2 games coming to PC would be super nice, I'd get it so long as they make it work well with existing VR games too
When is that ps5 new hud comeing out?
I wanna be able to play my party chat audio through my headset and tv at the same time on ps5
I want the option to purchase additional controllers for the PSVR2. Let’s get it done Sony.
40 minutes of LTPS am I in heaven
Community Game Help is a no-brainer and I'm so glad to see it become a thing!
Nixxes Software has EASILY been Sony’s best acquisition as of late 🙌🏾
Sad that bend studio have been lost to chase that sweet sweet gaas gold
I don't think Sony should do day and date PC, look what happened to Microsoft. It will definitely hurt console sales, and the less people buying consoles, the less people getting a subscription, buying 3rd party games, so on and so on. The single player games don't really sell well enough on PC to justify that.
I've owned every PlayStation ever released. I'm a huge PlayStation fan, even I would consider just playing on PC if I could get everything there day and date
Ex - Box going the way of the Dreamcast?
After playing the demo all the comparisons to it are kind of wrong. This is the most alike to FF16 gameplay when playing Stellar Blade.
I had to double check with how long this vids. I completely forgot the 5 has the help feature it should've never been pay wall feature
The biggest hurt against the Pro was when it was said recently that GTA 6 is unlikely to run at 60fps. If it's not going to do that due to what I've been hearing is CPU limitations, then it really is pointless if all it really gets is better RT.
I have Rebel Assault 1 & 2 running via DSbox, on my laptop, from the original disc, how old am I
With the reputation live service had gotten, SIE is probably relegating those live service models to their lower-risk studios like Bend. It's a way to protect their major headliners i.e. Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac et al. But it could endanger Bend and be left hanging in case their live service game fails.