For me, the scar shows us not to judge a book by its cover. Sometimes, we're like Thorin. Only think about our own pain, our own bad experiences. Rarely (maybe never) think about other people's feelings (pain, sadness, etc) and experiences. I love this scene, because it shows us that Thranduil is not just a pretty face elf. He's an awesome elf.
Loved this scene. Thranduil was visibly upset, he's not a complete jackass. He like Thorin puts himself and his people above all us. In a way, they have similar flaws. Pride. That's what makes characters like Legolas, Gimli, Frodo and Bilbo so heroic. They often put their pride aside for others.
That voice! He's so hot and sexy. I hope the third part has a lot more of him. Lee Pace did an incredible job playing Thranduil. Gorgeous, gorgeous man. The only thing is that in the book, Thranduil shows the dwarves compassion and hospitality. What pisses him off is the dwarves not being honest with him of the reason for being in his kingdom of Mirkwood. I'm not sure what PJ is trying to do. My eyes are definitely enjoying Lee Pace
1:56 Thranduil actually looks like he's going to cry. XD I actually love that, shows he's not heartless or cold, and might actually feel guilt/sadness over what happened.
I don't even like Thranduil, but I don't get why people hate on him for what he did. He has his reasons, which weren't touched upon much (if at all) in the movies.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie.. Loved that skin transformation . Its a signature PJ move and it works to a great effect showing another side and aspect of the mystery nature of Thranduil
Maybe that scar is a sign of his fights in the first age. Nargothrond and Gondolin were destroyed by Melkor's army with dragons... Thranduil could have lived in Doriath in the same time than Galadriel and Celeborn. When Doriath fell in the war with the dwarfs they could have moved to Gondolin the last elven kingdom of the first age that was destroyed by dragons and balrogs. Thranduil could have fought there along with his father Oropher and got that scar. Also in that last battle Glorfinder killed a Balrog and die in the scene.
For all the "Lee Pace plays an awesome Thranduil," folks I thought I'd share that he's playing Ronan the Accuser in Guardians of the Galaxy. Ronan is basically a serious alien badass. Check him out on Wikipedia.
He's so creepy, look at him! Creeping like a creeper. I just LOVE IT! :D I think from the books he was meant to be a little eerie, not like Elrond or Galadriel at all (though the Lady of Light has her moments too), and he definitely is. Eerie and superior and all together . . . Thranduil just has no time for you and your . . . prosaic concerns. Bwahahaha!
Thanks Tauriel, for uploading this. I love how badass the elves are in this movie. ...and Thranduil is exceptionally hot...his voice is like butter melting over warm, delicious bread. I'd like to get thrown in his dungeon. lol! Thanks again-- this was a great scene!
This scene is particuarly great because it is establishes the clashing of cultures between the Elves and the Dwarves and you can understand why Thorin is ngry with Thranduil, its a shame that the book doesn't address the extra details, this is very tense and well acted by Richard Armitadge and Lee Pace. Peter Jackson creates a tense feel within this scene job well done :)
Thranduil will play a huge role in the 3rd Hobbit movie. He may appear to be greedy but he is noble. In the book, he didn't lock up all of the dwarfs in jail. He allowed them to roam around but they couldn't leave. So the movie portrayed Thranduil like a greedy villain.
I didn't know that Thranduil allowed the dwarves to roam around in the book I thought after Thorin did not tell him why they were in The Woodland Realm that he locked them in the cells and they were not allowed to leave those cells and Bilbo rescued them with his ring, putting the guards to sleep and they escaped by the barrels of course.
Kevin Stein you're right. but Kevin Ho he is noble also. and here, as in the book, he's not really easily distinguishable into 'good' or 'bad'; he's just looking after his own people. keep in mind that mirkwood is the only elven realm that doesn't have one of the elf-rings, so i imagine the stress of keeping it going would make anyone wary of outsiders.
To be honest, I kind of like him greedy. Up until now the impression I'd got of Tolkien's elves is that they're always so perfect and righteous in every way, and I don't like this association that "pretty = good." I liked seeing them have some ugly qualities as well.
You need to go back and reread the book. The dwarves were locked up in different cells throughout the dungeons. Only Bilbo was running around freely and that's because he wore the Ring constantly. That is one part of the story Jackson got right....although there were no Elven girls in it.
well smaug and his kin are form the north, well at least they were..but i do not know....i never saw in any of the book that you have fought the dragon..
Thranduil is so badass. I'm not a fan of Lee Pace, and I thought it was a terrible casting choice.... I was so wrong! This was my most favorite scene in the whole movie. It was also nice to see Thorin handing the King his ass on a platter. As much as I love the King, Thranduil deserved that ass chewing...lol.
Eleanorminblack it's a reference to The Silmarillion, which details the events of the first age. in the final battle (the War of Wrath) against Sauron's master, Morgoth, the first winged dragons were unleashed. Thranduil is using magic to cover up burn scars from those first dragons (that bit is completely original--Tolkien makes no reference to Thranuil participating in the War of Wrath, although we do know that he was alive at the time.)
Not that i don't LOVE the movie, or Thranduil but when i was at the cinema and this scene was playing.....when Thranduil came that close to Thorin and made that face, and that noise....i laughed so hard it reminded me of the 'Jizz in my pants' music video
Thranduil should have just let Thorin and the others go. I know that Thorin's grandfather was a greedy idiot and that he broke his deal with Thranduil long ago. But that doesn't mean he should have told Thorin to stay in his cell and rot. Come on, look at King Elrond who knew Thorin's quest. He may have disagreed about Thorin trying to get his homeland back. But he respected the dwarves business and their right to try to fight the dragon. He didn't choose to imprison them. Anyway, I can't forget that the wood Elves of Mirkwood are not like their kin. Just like Beorn said.
If any of you seen the scene with king thranduil and the dwarf king thorin, it shows thranduil approaching him to pay respect to the dwarf king. The dwarf king shows him (thranduil) a diamond that belongs to the elves and slams it shut to show it off like i got it and thus begins a falling out between the dwarf king and thranduil. It originally belong to Thranduil the dwarfs according to my sources also took thranduils original home from him and he moved to mirkwood and expected him thranduil to pay for the diamond which originally belong to him its all on the internet the deleted scene and people are talking about it this is how i found out about thranduil and what this scene intels.
Can anyone offer a good explanation as to what Thranduil's manky face thing was about? I've seen the film twice now and it's still not clear why he started decomposing like that. The only thing I could think was that Thranduil had been burnt by a dragon once, but was covering up his scars with Elfish magic, and he just showed Thorin his scars to demonstrate the risk he's taking by disturbing Smaug.
Most likely Thranduil's injuries are real, not an illusion conjured by Elvish magic. He has terrible injuries to his right face and his right eye appears to have been blind. That's why he refused to aid the Dwarves to fight the dragon Smaug on the day it took Erebor and made it its lair. He warns Thorin the risk of retaking Erebor from Smaug and this time perhaps everyone in Throrin's company will not survive the wrath of Smaug unlike the fall of Erebor where most Dwarves survive.
type in the hobbit thranduil and thorin scene on youtube it is the first video and it will show you the video of how thorin hurt and intentionally rubbed those diamonds in thranduils face if you read all the comments the people will tell you what happened in the book. yes, you'll be reading for awhile but you'll get the story. spoiler alert i also found out that bilbo gives the diamond that the dwarf son is after to thranduil not the dwarf son who goes mad over the damn diamond in the book. they told honey they told
i wonder how good any movie would be if everything came off the pages and unto the screen exactly... I believe if the hobbit Movies were made exactly as they were in the book with the use of the appendixes of the lord of the rings, and some Director's common sense, they would be a bore to say the least. So for those who have a problem stick with the books and leave the movies alone. just like the spoke word is different from the written word, so too will movies differ from their books. they always do and they always will; get over it.
Whoever filmed this gives new meaning to the title amateur. If you're going to illegally post a video of a film, at least have the courtesy to keep the entire screen in frame. Jesus....
The stones are in the extended edition of An Unexpected Journey in that scene the dwarves close the chest that has the stones in it in his face and they piss Thranduil off
Yeah, but honestly don't you think he means other gems to? I mean the ones in the extended cut are only a few of thoose in the mountain. I think he means in the movie white gems of pure starlight overall.
Peter Jackson made that up so it would explain why Thranduil in the first film did not help the dwarves of Erebor when Smaug took over Erebor however there is no such thing in the book
All elves are magical and it was distress, I think. He saw his father die in the war involving dragons and only a third of the army that marched remained after. It was to show Thorin an idea of his internal pains.
Actually it's most likely an old injury from dragons dating back to the First Age. Thranduil grew up in Doriath when they fought with Morgoth, who created the dragons.
That is the result of most likely being maimed or attacked by a dragon. He placed an illusion on his face as if to act like that injury isn't there, and released the spell temporarily to prove his point to Thorin.
I do not understand why the movie made Thranduil so arrogant, mindless and such a feminine bimbo.He was an elvish king wise and yes elves were beautifull! Is that a crime? In our world being beutifull is almost equal to stupidity and arrogance. We cannot understand how wisdom can exist with beauty without being arrogant and therefore we envy and mock everything that is beautifull. However one of the deepest desires of almost all humans is to be beautifull, but most people just can't, because they cannot understand that beauty is inside us and not outside. The face reflects the inner world. And just because they cannot conceive the real meaning of "beauty" they mock it like here at this movie. I was very dissapointed from the Thranduil character. I was expecting sth closer to the book (actually LOTR and Hobbit are so far far far away from the book that sometimes I forget that the movie is referring there)
mjelement89 The actual correct pronunciation is sort of halfway between Tr and Thr, it's T with an extra sound on it, which is why in English it's written as Th instead of just T.
For me, the scar shows us not to judge a book by its cover. Sometimes, we're like Thorin. Only think about our own pain, our own bad experiences. Rarely (maybe never) think about other people's feelings (pain, sadness, etc) and experiences. I love this scene, because it shows us that Thranduil is not just a pretty face elf. He's an awesome elf.
Well said.
Thranduil gets me all giddy!!!
Loved this scene. Thranduil was visibly upset, he's not a complete jackass. He like Thorin puts himself and his people above all us. In a way, they have similar flaws. Pride.
That's what makes characters like Legolas, Gimli, Frodo and Bilbo so heroic. They often put their pride aside for others.
That voice! He's so hot and sexy. I hope the third part has a lot more of him. Lee Pace did an incredible job playing Thranduil. Gorgeous, gorgeous man.
The only thing is that in the book, Thranduil shows the dwarves compassion and hospitality. What pisses him off is the dwarves not being honest with him of the reason for being in his kingdom of Mirkwood. I'm not sure what PJ is trying to do.
My eyes are definitely enjoying Lee Pace
1:56 Thranduil actually looks like he's going to cry. XD I actually love that, shows he's not heartless or cold, and might actually feel guilt/sadness over what happened.
I wish that we'd had less Legolas and Tauriel and more Thranduil. Hopefully that will be the case in TABA.
Well, Thranduil and Legolas in more scenes together is what I want. Father/Son interaction. There both too awesome.
I don't even like Thranduil, but I don't get why people hate on him for what he did. He has his reasons, which weren't touched upon much (if at all) in the movies.
OMG! Thank you for uploading ^^ I love you!
Perfect choice to play this character!!!!!! Lee Pace your perfect!!!
Thranduil is fantastic.
Una de las mejores ecenas de la pelicula,el personaje de Thranduil a Lee Pace le viene como anillo al dedo ¡¡ muy buen actor!!!
best quality yet! thank you for sharing
One of my favorite scenes in the movie.. Loved that skin transformation . Its a signature PJ move and it works to a great effect showing another side and aspect of the mystery nature of Thranduil
i long for the day a can have a complexion like thranduil's
Maybe that scar is a sign of his fights in the first age.
Nargothrond and Gondolin were destroyed by Melkor's army with dragons... Thranduil could have lived in Doriath in the same time than Galadriel and Celeborn. When Doriath fell in the war with the dwarfs they could have moved to Gondolin the last elven kingdom of the first age that was destroyed by dragons and balrogs. Thranduil could have fought there along with his father Oropher and got that scar. Also in that last battle Glorfinder killed a Balrog and die in the scene.
For all the "Lee Pace plays an awesome Thranduil," folks I thought I'd share that he's playing Ronan the Accuser in Guardians of the Galaxy.
Ronan is basically a serious alien badass. Check him out on Wikipedia.
Just remember Smaug was the SMALLEST of the Great Serpents of the North~
We all need to get Team Thranduil and Team Thorin t-shirts.
He's so creepy, look at him! Creeping like a creeper. I just LOVE IT! :D I think from the books he was meant to be a little eerie, not like Elrond or Galadriel at all (though the Lady of Light has her moments too), and he definitely is. Eerie and superior and all together . . . Thranduil just has no time for you and your . . . prosaic concerns. Bwahahaha!
"I..have faced the great serpents of the north!" epic
Thanks Tauriel, for uploading this. I love how badass the elves are in this movie. ...and Thranduil is exceptionally hot...his voice is like butter melting over warm, delicious bread. I'd like to get thrown in his dungeon. lol! Thanks again-- this was a great scene!
This scene is particuarly great because it is establishes the clashing of cultures between the Elves and the Dwarves and you can understand why Thorin is ngry with Thranduil, its a shame that the book doesn't address the extra details, this is very tense and well acted by Richard Armitadge and Lee Pace. Peter Jackson creates a tense feel within this scene job well done :)
Thranduil will play a huge role in the 3rd Hobbit movie. He may appear to be greedy but he is noble. In the book, he didn't lock up all of the dwarfs in jail. He allowed them to roam around but they couldn't leave. So the movie portrayed Thranduil like a greedy villain.
I didn't know that Thranduil allowed the dwarves to roam around in the book I thought after Thorin did not tell him why they were in The Woodland Realm that he locked them in the cells and they were not allowed to leave those cells and Bilbo rescued them with his ring, putting the guards to sleep and they escaped by the barrels of course.
Kevin Stein you're right. but Kevin Ho he is noble also. and here, as in the book, he's not really easily distinguishable into 'good' or 'bad'; he's just looking after his own people. keep in mind that mirkwood is the only elven realm that doesn't have one of the elf-rings, so i imagine the stress of keeping it going would make anyone wary of outsiders.
To be honest, I kind of like him greedy. Up until now the impression I'd got of Tolkien's elves is that they're always so perfect and righteous in every way, and I don't like this association that "pretty = good." I liked seeing them have some ugly qualities as well.
i agree; it gives more dimension to the race as a whole.
You need to go back and reread the book. The dwarves were locked up in different cells throughout the dungeons. Only Bilbo was running around freely and that's because he wore the Ring constantly. That is one part of the story Jackson got right....although there were no Elven girls in it.
White gems of starlight? Sounds like the Silmarillion to me!
The Silmarils contained light from the two sacred trees that provided light in the undying lands.
Rabid Robbie I'm pretty sure he knew that
New scene! Enjoy :) Hate the scar though....
So voice much me soo scar
your voice is fine...your scar..aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa scary
What's the deal with the great serpants of the north?
well smaug and his kin are form the north, well at least they were..but i do not know....i never saw in any of the book that you have fought the dragon..
Hmmmm.....
Thranduil is so badass. I'm not a fan of Lee Pace, and I thought it was a terrible casting choice.... I was so wrong! This was my most favorite scene in the whole movie. It was also nice to see Thorin handing the King his ass on a platter. As much as I love the King, Thranduil deserved that ass chewing...lol.
Thorins so cool when he says 'I am listening'
thranduil is like sexiness with sass
I loved this scene, thank you my friend!
Thranduil and Loki should join the Club of Beautiful and Sassy. ;)
They founded it :)
1:41 Oh, don't act all surprised, Thranduil.
Eleanorminblack it's a reference to The Silmarillion, which details the events of the first age. in the final battle (the War of Wrath) against Sauron's master, Morgoth, the first winged dragons were unleashed. Thranduil is using magic to cover up burn scars from those first dragons (that bit is completely original--Tolkien makes no reference to Thranuil participating in the War of Wrath, although we do know that he was alive at the time.)
Not that i don't LOVE the movie, or Thranduil but when i was at the cinema and this scene was playing.....when Thranduil came that close to Thorin and made that face, and that noise....i laughed so hard it reminded me of the 'Jizz in my pants' music video
Thranduil should have just let Thorin and the others go. I know that Thorin's grandfather was a greedy idiot and that he broke his deal with Thranduil long ago. But that doesn't mean he should have told Thorin to stay in his cell and rot. Come on, look at King Elrond who knew Thorin's quest. He may have disagreed about Thorin trying to get his homeland back. But he respected the dwarves business and their right to try to fight the dragon. He didn't choose to imprison them. Anyway, I can't forget that the wood Elves of Mirkwood are not like their kin. Just like Beorn said.
I dont know why but Lee Pace's voice reminds me severus snape
If any of you seen the scene with king thranduil and the dwarf king thorin, it shows thranduil approaching him to pay respect to the dwarf king. The dwarf king shows him (thranduil) a diamond that belongs to the elves and slams it shut to show it off like i got it and thus begins a falling out between the dwarf king and thranduil. It originally belong to Thranduil the dwarfs according to my sources also took thranduils original home from him and he moved to mirkwood and expected him thranduil to pay for the diamond which originally belong to him its all on the internet the deleted scene and people are talking about it this is how i found out about thranduil and what this scene intels.
Can anyone offer a good explanation as to what Thranduil's manky face thing was about? I've seen the film twice now and it's still not clear why he started decomposing like that. The only thing I could think was that Thranduil had been burnt by a dragon once, but was covering up his scars with Elfish magic, and he just showed Thorin his scars to demonstrate the risk he's taking by disturbing Smaug.
Most likely Thranduil's injuries are real, not an illusion conjured by Elvish magic. He has terrible injuries to his right face and his right eye appears to have been blind. That's why he refused to aid the Dwarves to fight the dragon Smaug on the day it took Erebor and made it its lair. He warns Thorin the risk of retaking Erebor from Smaug and this time perhaps everyone in Throrin's company will not survive the wrath of Smaug unlike the fall of Erebor where most Dwarves survive.
Thanks for replying :-)
oneworldfamily you are correct, he hides his scars with an illusion and was showing what his face really looked like in that moment.
type in the hobbit thranduil and thorin scene on youtube it is the first video and it will show you the video of how thorin hurt and intentionally rubbed those diamonds in thranduils face if you read all the comments the people will tell you what happened in the book. yes, you'll be reading for awhile but you'll get the story. spoiler alert i also found out that bilbo gives the diamond that the dwarf son is after to thranduil not the dwarf son who goes mad over the damn diamond in the book. they told honey they told
Say what you will about The Hobbit but damn they did some amazing casting here.
i wonder how good any movie would be if everything came off the pages and unto the screen exactly... I believe if the hobbit Movies were made exactly as they were in the book with the use of the appendixes of the lord of the rings, and some Director's common sense, they would be a bore to say the least. So for those who have a problem stick with the books and leave the movies alone. just like the spoke word is different from the written word, so too will movies differ from their books. they always do and they always will; get over it.
Nice video 😄
Thranduil should have flipped a coin to decide Thorin's fate lel
the scar aint a real physical scar but a spiritual scar made physical when they get stressed
Screw the elves, this is a Dwarf movie. Legolas almost ruined it. Jerkass elves.
Legolas was a total badass as usual
All i see here is the way he badassly lied to the goblin about letting him live, what a scumbag.
Hey we needed him for fan service.
Thats what GIMLI was in the movie for !
Dwarfurious he said he would set him free, and he did.
To die a death of fire.
Lee Pace's eyebrow game too strong.
I guess Jackson through the actual book wasn't good enough. Feeling's mutual.
How does he get from being at his throne to 1ft away from Thorin within 2 seconds
Elves can move fast as f#ck when they want to.
Anyone know what Thorin said to make Thranduil lose his temper? I think it's some form of Elvish, but I can't find an online translation.
What is happening with his face at 2:09?
Whoever filmed this gives new meaning to the title amateur. If you're going to illegally post a video of a film, at least have the courtesy to keep the entire screen in frame. Jesus....
This were I'm went to move see the hobbit desolation of smaug
What white stones is Thranduil talking about? What is his?
The stones are in the extended edition of An Unexpected Journey in that scene the dwarves close the chest that has the stones in it in his face and they piss Thranduil off
That is in the book but the films deviate from the book I was talking about the films
Yeah, but honestly don't you think he means other gems to? I mean the ones in the extended cut are only a few of thoose in the mountain. I think he means in the movie white gems of pure starlight overall.
watch the extended version of the 1st movie and you will know
I have allready seen it, but you don't see my point. It doesn't have to be theese stones he means. Just white gems overall.
why does thranduil have that big scar ?? sorry i have not seen the movie yet :/
Peter Jackson made that up so it would explain why Thranduil in the first film did not help the dwarves of Erebor when Smaug took over Erebor however there is no such thing in the book
If you listen to the dialogue, Thranduil is talking about where the scar came from.
I hope Thranduil will not act so effeminate in the next movie. Good grief
isn't this illegal?
Loki
no, it really isn't becuase I didn't do it ^^ thanks bye. Michael Challinoir
I don't know XD I can't keep my thoughts to myself XDDD Michael Challinoir
Peter Jackson has said himself that he doesn't care if scenes like these are on the internet, he also doesn't care for his appearance.
jetscookie Plus it just makes people want to watch the movie in order to find what its about.
Can someone explain what the creepy thing that happened to Thranduil's face was? Don't get it? .. :S
All elves are magical and it was distress, I think. He saw his father die in the war involving dragons and only a third of the army that marched remained after. It was to show Thorin an idea of his internal pains.
Actually it's most likely an old injury from dragons dating back to the First Age. Thranduil grew up in Doriath when they fought with Morgoth, who created the dragons.
02.10 is scary
Yea
What the hell happened to Thranduil's face?
That is the result of most likely being maimed or attacked by a dragon. He placed an illusion on his face as if to act like that injury isn't there, and released the spell temporarily to prove his point to Thorin.
Talonhealz or maybe a look into the past?
He said clearly, "I faced the great serpents of the north," and " Do not talk to me of dragonfire." I think dragons did that to him.
what the hell was that face thing about lol :)
I do not understand why the movie made Thranduil so arrogant, mindless and such a feminine bimbo.He was an elvish king wise and yes elves were beautifull! Is that a crime? In our world being beutifull is almost equal to stupidity and arrogance. We cannot understand how wisdom can exist with beauty without being arrogant and therefore we envy and mock everything that is beautifull. However one of the deepest desires of almost all humans is to be beautifull, but most people just can't, because they cannot understand that beauty is inside us and not outside. The face reflects the inner world. And just because they cannot conceive the real meaning of "beauty" they mock it like here at this movie. I was very dissapointed from the Thranduil character. I was expecting sth closer to the book (actually LOTR and Hobbit are so far far far away from the book that sometimes I forget that the movie is referring there)
Thranduil correspond au livre, il est très très âgé et il ne se fait plus d'illusions sur les êtres. Le rôle colle comme un gant.
Thranduil is gay IRL?
no, no, no... just rumours. no truth to that
i heard he was dating ritchard armitage/ thorin.
doesn't exist in real life. what are you asking?
the aryan elves vs the jew dwarfs
franduil?is Tranduil!!!!!!!! bad pronunce!
He didn't say "Franduil"
He said "Thranduil" which is correct.
yes but i'm talking about fonetic pronunciation! is tr not thr !isn't a english name!they talk about this in the extra of the movie!
mjelement89 The actual correct pronunciation is sort of halfway between Tr and Thr, it's T with an extra sound on it, which is why in English it's written as Th instead of just T.