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  • The ENTIRE History of the Saiyan War in Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT as discussed in the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files here on Dragon Ball In Depth 53. We discuss the History of the Saiyans vs Tuffles aka Saiyans vs Tsufurians and how Baby ties into the story and How King Vegeta Ruled!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 896

  • @DanielGomez-ln2dd
    @DanielGomez-ln2dd 4 роки тому +951

    Aye bro, I’m listening to this on my way to my wedding. Got to find a way to calm myself down!

  • @someguydownthestreet206
    @someguydownthestreet206 4 роки тому +760

    As poorly executed as GT was, you gotta admit that the Baby arc was a brilliant idea.

    • @exoplanet4905
      @exoplanet4905 4 роки тому +20

      True that

    • @applebee6455
      @applebee6455 4 роки тому +120

      +Some Guy Down the Street
      ALL of GT was a brilliant idea. Travelling through space, Consequences for using the Dragonballs, Bring back fallen warriors of the past.
      The creators just didn't know how to pull it off like DB or DBZ did.

    • @kaptainkibiroproductions45
      @kaptainkibiroproductions45 4 роки тому +31

      Apple Bee GT is still even now chock full of potential
      I think because it was so bad it left the door open for so many fan theories or returns for the ideas they had

    • @thomashoughton5270
      @thomashoughton5270 4 роки тому +26

      Oh it was, so was the concept of the shadow dragons arc, GT was just executed horribly

    • @applebee6455
      @applebee6455 4 роки тому +21

      @@kaptainkibiroproductions45 So true. When Goku, Trunk and Pan go off into space for a year. That could have easily been a MASSIVE saga. The same way Luffy travels to different lands in One Piece, Goku & Co could have done the same but for different planets. GT's potential was/is HUGE.

  • @NarutoExplained
    @NarutoExplained 4 роки тому +135

    The concept of Baby and the Tsufurian lore is something I hope Dragon Ball Super revisits, because it has more potential than we saw in GT

    • @JKMlive
      @JKMlive 3 роки тому +3

      Might be a universe 6 thing.

    • @evenhartwick4422
      @evenhartwick4422 3 роки тому +10

      the Tsufurian stuff is pretty much the reason i like and defend that show. The Baby saga is a genuinely good arc with a lot of good ideas in it.

    • @Vathananable
      @Vathananable 3 роки тому +4

      I thought Granola is going to take that place....

    • @mutasimmuhammad9672
      @mutasimmuhammad9672 3 роки тому +1

      @@Vathananable he is watch and see

  • @alcatrazvongola
    @alcatrazvongola 4 роки тому +233

    Dragonball has a ton of interesting lore that should get more fleshed out. It's a shame that Toriyama keeps reconning stuff or has forgotten most of it.

    • @TheCWoodman
      @TheCWoodman 4 роки тому +18

      Talking if recons, he says that Toriyama reconned the scouters being made by the ruffles by saying it was friezas tech, but this I would say is more of an extension to the story, he says himself that In 730 is when the saiyans win their war and the ruffles are only ever shown with the gun scouters, and then he says in 731 king vegeta meets frieza, this makes sense because in the broly movie, Freiza shows off new scouters and says they are better than the old ones, and the saiyans are shown using hand scouters later on.

    • @azureangel8217
      @azureangel8217 4 роки тому +1

      @Mike Noir same

    • @BONEKRUSHER408
      @BONEKRUSHER408 4 роки тому +7

      AT is a hack and doesn't really give a shit about DB, the only reason he came back to shit on Dragonball was because nobody was buying the other garbage he was putting out.

    • @zp944
      @zp944 4 роки тому +2

      Money will do that to you

    • @coddyface1
      @coddyface1 4 роки тому +5

      @@BONEKRUSHER408ya I watched a lot of DB and man you can tell they are make shit up as they go

  • @al-geezynip-gang3142
    @al-geezynip-gang3142 4 роки тому +240

    I want an entire Movie On The Complete History Of This Saiyen&Tuffle War

    • @chaseviking5096
      @chaseviking5096 4 роки тому +2

      So you want another entire non cannon movie?

    • @rcash3625
      @rcash3625 2 роки тому

      Would be fire

    • @LuciusYano
      @LuciusYano 2 роки тому

      never make it cause no one would watch. we literally dont know even a single saiyan from that time yet alone a truffle to be the protagonist

    • @biology9810
      @biology9810 Рік тому

      @@LuciusYano bro have you never heard of new characters what's the point of android 13 cus they made new Androids your comment is so stupid

    • @biology9810
      @biology9810 Рік тому +2

      @@chaseviking5096 even if it was non cannon it would still be fire but considering everything in this video is true than the hypothetical movie would pronibe too

  • @danielmedjedovic7068
    @danielmedjedovic7068 4 роки тому +49

    If they reboot GT, they should make a whole arc of the saiyan-tuffle war.

  • @DBZMacky
    @DBZMacky 4 роки тому +50

    So King Vegeta ruled from age 730 to 731 before Freeza showed up and made him his lap dog?
    Damn, that's sad. To work so hard for so little.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 4 роки тому +13

      King Vegeta is Vegeta the third, so he's actually ruled for much longer.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 роки тому +3

      @FaZe Gohan
      No it’s not. Freeza called Prince Vegeta (our Vegeta) Vegeta the fourth, so his father, who exiled Broly, is King Vegeta the third, meaning that he ruled much longer than just a year.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 роки тому +1

      @FaZe Gohan
      Freeza did refer to vegeta as the fourth tho.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 роки тому +1

      But i see what u sayin

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 роки тому +2

      @FaZe Gohan
      Which is canon

  • @murrayisarobot
    @murrayisarobot 4 роки тому +21

    I always thought that the Saiyan/Tuffle war took place like several generations before the time of King Vegeta, and that Saiyan rule of planet Vegeta had been long established by the time Frieza came. I've only watched the dub so I dunno but that's the impression I got from the narrative. And then the Saiyans worked for Frieza for many years before Frieza destroyed their planet. I don't know why but this headcanon feels better to me than it all happening in such a short space of time.

  • @applebee6455
    @applebee6455 4 роки тому +163

    Dragonball Franchise is *_MY_* Star Wars. Someone once said _"that's stupid"_ . How can it be when BOTH are works of fiction!?

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 4 роки тому +4

      Apple Bee I swear some people don’t respect anime at all but I don’t think it’s stupid because I understand how it could be.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 4 роки тому +16

      It's like they forget Star Wars is targeted to basically the same demographic dragonball is.

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 роки тому +2

      Well said. I'm a Fan of both, and I totally get where you're coming from.

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 роки тому +3

      @@specialnewb9821 They totally do. It's just complete Bias and Ignorance.

    • @knightstudio9985
      @knightstudio9985 4 роки тому +1

      Fan both Star wars and Db series

  • @Maikigai
    @Maikigai 4 роки тому +96

    Someone should totally use the “pendulum room” to view more a Saiyan history like how Yamcha, Tien, Krillin and Chiautzu did.

    • @rawnorth7882
      @rawnorth7882 4 роки тому +17

      Yeah that was bad ass seeing them fight sayains from 100 years ago

    • @1014p
      @1014p 4 роки тому +6

      That would be cool, now any of them would swat away those saiyans.

    • @guardiandown7984
      @guardiandown7984 4 роки тому +3

      Mikeyboy86 True they should do that

    • @dark-xh7fs
      @dark-xh7fs 4 роки тому +1

      @『 R e A W A K E N E D 』 for now. They may always make it a part of plot.

    • @dark-xh7fs
      @dark-xh7fs 4 роки тому +2

      @『 R e A W A K E N E D 』 addition? Like broly and bardock or jaco? My point is if they want they can always use that idea.

  • @mightybryan1033
    @mightybryan1033 4 роки тому +35

    Dragon ball needs a whole Movie based on the Full History of the Saiyans up until planet Vegetas destruction

    • @scoobysnax3813
      @scoobysnax3813 4 роки тому +7

      I could be an entire series!!

    • @nigelholland1714
      @nigelholland1714 3 роки тому +2

      Meaning planet Sadala with the civil war and them moving to plant

    • @mightybryan1033
      @mightybryan1033 3 роки тому +2

      @@nigelholland1714 bingo. Cause we still needa see the OG legendary Super Saiyan & King Vegeta I,II

    • @the_real_idoit8166
      @the_real_idoit8166 3 роки тому +1

      @@scoobysnax3813 legit if goku and Vegeta ever die for good they could literally make a series about just the saiyans and their past

  • @purevessel4506
    @purevessel4506 4 роки тому +113

    I would love to see a movie on Yamoshi or an origin on the Saiyans and how they came to be.

  • @ericksantos4555
    @ericksantos4555 4 роки тому +13

    I really appreciate these videos. Dragon Ball was such a big part of my childhood and I still enjoy it to this day. I love being able to come home after whatever kind of day and jump right back into and also learn something I didn't know before.

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 роки тому

      Play dokkan for more nostalgia

  • @tobertcordless2491
    @tobertcordless2491 4 роки тому +25

    So many similarities between the Saiyans and the Mandalorians, it's crazy lol
    Both are warrior races, split up into royal class systems, both waged war against another race for a planet, both conquered planets and solar systems, and now the new canon for both draw inspiration from the original source story.

  • @Nagatem
    @Nagatem 4 роки тому +330

    The saiyan’s really reaped what they sowed
    The rotten veggies

  • @tajol2122
    @tajol2122 4 роки тому +113

    Enjoy the history but wish there was a movie or a special manga that gives us a true back story

    • @DeloFFF
      @DeloFFF 4 роки тому +3

      Let us be patient . It’s coming 😅

    • @higherground711
      @higherground711 4 роки тому +6

      It's quite possible that there will be. I've said it over and over. Dragon Ball's a gravy train. People all over the world can't get enough of it. In the future we might even see official Dragon Ball universe spinoffs. I could be wrong, but I believe some spinoffs would be very popular. They could do what UA-camrs and others have been doing for years now. They could shift the focus away from the Saiyans and explore the rest of the Dragon Ball universe. If I were them I would. It would be very lucrative 💲 and there are endless possibilities. Everybody wins. 👍😁

    • @BONEKRUSHER408
      @BONEKRUSHER408 4 роки тому +3

      Would have been dope decades ago but I hope it never happens, super has shit on the lore enough.

    • @mightybryan1033
      @mightybryan1033 4 роки тому +2

      And we need more on Beerus,Whis said he told Frieza to destroy Planet Vegeta

    • @chaseviking5096
      @chaseviking5096 4 роки тому +1

      @@BONEKRUSHER408 super did a hell of a lot better than that garbage called GT. GT was so bad that it's been ripped of it's title as cannon. Super stayed truer to the DB series then GT ever did.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 4 роки тому +30

    Imagine if Cooler got the aid of the Suphorians( or Tuffles) much like Frieza got the Saiyans! How awesome would that be in a future storyline?!

  • @SamuraiCypher
    @SamuraiCypher 4 роки тому +9

    Yes, man. This is what OG followers been waiting for! Preciate the hard work as usual, Danny. Take it easy and get some rest. 🖤

  • @ssjmatthew1286
    @ssjmatthew1286 4 роки тому +6

    Saiyan lore is some of my favorite stuff in Dragon Ball. Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Keep up the great work.

  • @RIPMUZICPRODUCTIONS
    @RIPMUZICPRODUCTIONS 4 роки тому +16

    Feel like I'm working on my masters in dragon Ball watching this 😁

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby 4 роки тому +44

    Lol I wouldn't call King Vegeta and Frieza's relationship a "partnership."

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  4 роки тому +6

      thats what it was

    • @maybetoby
      @maybetoby 4 роки тому +11

      @@Geekdom101 nah, King Vegeta was Frieza's slave. He definitely wasn't treated as an equal.

    • @Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT
      @Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT 4 роки тому +7

      It was a slavery actually.
      Saiyans got conquered by King Cold then they were introduced to Lord Frieza.
      That's the story from Bardock movie.

    • @urmumgae4245
      @urmumgae4245 4 роки тому +1

      More like king Vegeta was his bitch

    • @codymcguire189
      @codymcguire189 4 роки тому +2

      @@Geekdom101 you don't understand what that term means...

  • @warwick802
    @warwick802 4 роки тому +109

    I hope that someday, Star Wars and DBS make a mini series about their far pasts.

    • @RandomGuy-zl5sp
      @RandomGuy-zl5sp 4 роки тому +6

      Kev that would be so cool. The Mandalorian is a great show. Though I would love to see an arc similar to the mandalorian after Frieza and King Cold get killed by Trunks. It would be like the fall of the Empire.

    • @nightwalker174
      @nightwalker174 4 роки тому +11

      Kotor, The Old Republic

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 роки тому +4

      Exactly. Full-fledged Series though. The Moro Arc is even playin' on that in Dragonball Super.

    • @hrthrhs
      @hrthrhs 4 роки тому +1

      @@RandomGuy-zl5sp Yeah true actually. Didn't Vegeta go around mopping up the rest of Frieza's men?

    • @RandomGuy-zl5sp
      @RandomGuy-zl5sp 4 роки тому +1

      hrthrhs I’m pretty sure idk how many were left alive tho

  • @hxcvocalist
    @hxcvocalist 4 роки тому +74

    I wonder what would happen if you mix Saiyan and Tsufuru. Strong with lust for battle and intelligent. A fixed Gohan.

    • @1014p
      @1014p 4 роки тому +2

      TriEdgedPrism ouch that’s a bit painful.

    • @1014p
      @1014p 4 роки тому +2

      The No.1 Guy yea your brains aren’t written over if your genetics also foster stronger bodies. How that individual chooses to train or use their ability is still up to that individual. Culture is what drives the thirst for battle. You can see this in our soldiers today. Those on multiple tours find the battle field home even after leaving. So they often pursue activities closely following that level of action or life. Say firearms instructors and such. Others pick up rafting tours. There fight or flight is a daily occurrence.

    • @hxcvocalist
      @hxcvocalist 4 роки тому +4

      @@maymay5600 Oh wow never thought about it like that, that could explain how short they are, that would crumble vegeta world of being a pure blood saiyan, when he could actually be an hybrid :O

    • @hxcvocalist
      @hxcvocalist 4 роки тому +1

      @@maymay5600 Not sur what you meant by ''i don't trust how you replied''. My english isn't that good. I was serious and not sarcastic. What if Vegeta was actually a hybrid, thinking all his life he was the best of the best.

    • @babyfaceaviator7862
      @babyfaceaviator7862 4 роки тому +1

      I had a theory, though not a very strong one, that maybe Vegeta is half Tuffle. Explains why he's short, smarter than most Saiyans and was more compatible with Baby than the others whose bodies got taken over.

  • @8ballmoe
    @8ballmoe 4 роки тому +71

    Frieza is the real OG we need to expand upon his race and backstory imo
    Hope he eventually gets the attention he and cooler needs

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 роки тому +2

      Cooler isn't canon to the story

    • @juliandavidhoffer2022
      @juliandavidhoffer2022 4 роки тому +14

      Hope you are prepared for massive disappointment because that ain’t Toriyamas style.

    • @8ballmoe
      @8ballmoe 4 роки тому +9

      I’m not a guy who cares about things like “canon” tbh
      It doesn’t matter too me

    • @juliandavidhoffer2022
      @juliandavidhoffer2022 4 роки тому +4

      Bounty Hunter Kakuzu but you are saying you want Cooler to be expanded on in the lore. And he doesn’t exist except in shit like Heroes, so how would Toriyama expand on him?

    • @8ballmoe
      @8ballmoe 4 роки тому +5

      Headshredder expand on him by giving him a story and shit like flashbacks
      Not that difficult to understand. Just write him in.... not that hard

  • @italianduded1161
    @italianduded1161 4 роки тому +3

    okay Vegeta's old anime mustaches are better then the Broly movie ones XD

  • @applebee6455
    @applebee6455 4 роки тому +44

    *Random question:* Would you play a game that was based on Saiyan's early history and you had to take control of the planet from the Tuffle's and Plantians people; travel the universe 'colonising' planets all the while your character rises up the ranks to become the Leader/King of the Saiyan race?

    • @DatDude0925
      @DatDude0925 4 роки тому +5

      Funny someone says something like this.
      I had an idea for a strategy game where you play as the different Universe 7 races in their ancient histories. So the Saiyans, the Namekians, Frieza’s Race, and even Ancient Humans. The idea is that it was a time of great conflict, and they were all vying for galactic conquest at the time. Each race would have its own style. Saiyans would be heavily offensive, with fewer units but each unit is more powerful on average, and they’d have Super Saiyans and Great Apes as elite units, and theoretical lore characters as leader units, such as Vegeta I, Yamoshi, the original Broly, etc.
      Namekians would be defensive, and focus on having similar unit variety as the Saiyans without being as aggressive. They’d have Super and Great Namekians as elite units.
      Frieza’s Race would be the “spammer” army, with a bunch of cheap, easy to produce, and expendable units. They’d all be in their “first forms.” Their more expensive units would be in their second forms, elite units in their third forms, and HQ would be in their Final Form.
      Ancient Humans would be balanced. Not terrible at anything, but not amazing at anything either. I think I’d steal from Halo’s book and make them really technologically advanced, which is how they keep up, with their HQ units being actual masters of Ki. And I’d probably throw Olibu from filler in as one of them.

    • @batboythecool
      @batboythecool 4 роки тому

      @@DatDude0925 genius!

    • @dakpickels7412
      @dakpickels7412 4 роки тому +1

      Yo you making it or...

    • @DatDude0925
      @DatDude0925 4 роки тому

      I wish I could lol. I have a lot of ideas like these, but no clout IRL.

    • @applebee6455
      @applebee6455 4 роки тому

      @@DatDude0925 You say _"strategy game"_ . Do you be top down view like Diablo 3 games or Age Of Empires style?
      You say you have lots of ideas; what else have you thought of?

  • @Perc_angle30
    @Perc_angle30 3 роки тому +5

    Toriyama: *retcon
    His fan base: HES A GODDAMN SHAKESPEARE

  • @artisticAJ91
    @artisticAJ91 4 роки тому +19

    I wonder if the saiyans cross bred with the suffurians which resulted in higher intellect amongst the saiyan race.

    • @dablaccaiyan9152
      @dablaccaiyan9152 4 роки тому +6

      Very possible

    • @JohnDoe-dw7je
      @JohnDoe-dw7je 4 роки тому +2

      Maybe the saiyans rejected them because their half breeds

    • @TheHylden
      @TheHylden 4 роки тому +1

      I mean, the Tsufruians are like a foot tall. I don't think normal copulation would be possible.

    • @thekingbradable
      @thekingbradable 3 роки тому

      They probably did at some point

  • @CipherDVoid
    @CipherDVoid 4 роки тому +6

    This reminded me of a theory I made long ago. The root of it came from that King Vegeta was a Hybrid of Saiyan and Tuffles. Vegeta said in canon that hybrid Saiyans can sometimes wield incredible reserves of power. It would make sense because King Vegeta easily transitioned the technology to the truffles. What made them royalty was that they held this level of intelligence with the Saiyans nature battle power. Like maybe how Vegeta had full control of his Ozaru form could speak on this. This allows a perfect transition of power because of King Vegeta III would have already known how to work the technology. Most likely he was supposed to be a symbol of peace between the two races. Yet he chooses to dominate the truffles instead of settling in peace. That once they relinquished their technology to him he allowed them to escape and keep the planet for himself. Around this time he also realized that Tarble carried more Truffle characteristics than Saiyan so he exiled him as well. Which could mean there are more hybrids and the original Saiyan race to held in the universe. The reason why they weren't discovered was most likely their power levels were too low.
    This also lead to another theory it is a slight tweak to the Tarble storyline. That Tarble was actually lying when he came for Vegeta's aid. That Tarble actually wanted to recruit Vegeta. That during the time of Frieza's and King Cold's death Tarble has been venturing the galaxy taking over the Frieza empire and using them for his own gain. Also during this time, Tarble discovered more Saiyans survivors who were overlooked due to their battle power. I believe King Vegeta III was aware of his son's aptitude that he was far more intelligent than himself. That his son was more of a cold-hearted tactician than even himself. Seeing the potential strategist that Tarble was King Vegeta III planned for him to take others to create another Saiyan Colony. Tarble would then find the Tuffles again and using them he planned to create his own Tarble then orchestrated for the alien brothers to come and kill Vegeta to test his strength. However Tarble realized that Vegeta lost much of his cold-heartedness since they last met. Seeing him with a family and friends Tarble lost respect for his brother. That Tarble adored every evil exploit Vegeta ever done. He was proud of the sayian warrior. That he organized an entire army so that Vegeta could lead them and the rest of the saiyans to their highest point. Before Tarble left he used a tracking device to keep tabs on Vegeta. Ever since they met he has been seeking to return Vegeta to his former self. That he planned to kidnap the family he made on earth. Thus would force Vegeta to ask doctor briefs to develop a spacecraft and search for his family. Each and every planet he goes to would be one that he had wiped out. The Z fighters would discover this and remember just how evil Vegeta use to be. At first Vegeta acts like it doesn't effect him. That's when he sees family pictures that he wiped out with his own hands. There's more and I know its kinda dark, but I really wanted to make a Vegeta based arc. One that would force Vegeta to relieve his past and increase his bonds with the Z fighters.

  • @adamrivera1360
    @adamrivera1360 4 роки тому +1

    I've been watching you for about 5 years now and you've never made a weak video. Keep kicking ass and I hope your health recovers soon.

  • @AndrewAce.
    @AndrewAce. 4 роки тому +8

    So basically Nature vs Science...
    Watching Dr. Stone rn 🤣

  • @christoferkaltsas3282
    @christoferkaltsas3282 4 роки тому +6

    I'd love to see a clone wars like cartoon about the saiyan wars

  • @BruceVial
    @BruceVial 4 роки тому +5

    Been waiting years for someone to do an in-depth on the Saiyan war. Hopefully it builds to my hype lol

  • @CrimsonRexx
    @CrimsonRexx 4 роки тому +24

    Imagine if they did cross breed think they would be stronger then a cross breed like gohan?

  • @justinmoody9164
    @justinmoody9164 4 роки тому +13

    I wish the creators decided to make Bulma’s family descendants of the Tuffles. Like maybe instead of being sent to other planets to conquer and sell, the Tuffles could have used their intellect and technology to spread peace and prosperity to other worlds. This could explain why a Tuffle or Tuffles was on earth and fell in love with an earthing resulting in the brief’s family line. When you think about it Bulma and Dr. Briefs both look strikingly similar to the Tuffles shown in the flashbacks. This would also explain their intelligence and give more weight to Bulma and Vegeta’s relationship. It may sound dumb... but I think it would have been cool.

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 4 роки тому +2

      The only problem with that is that Humans already get underpowered and shit on as is, taking away their token intellect is not only further insulting humanity, but it also further validates the lack of human OC's, and also just dilutes the importance of humans in comparison to other races.

    • @user-nr6is3eh2c
      @user-nr6is3eh2c 4 роки тому

      HopefulKaede123 but that could be the case

  • @CSZeraphyr
    @CSZeraphyr 4 роки тому +1

    Subscribed man. Keep it up dude. I really snuffed this for too long and now I understand the dragon ball universe way more

  • @demoniakira
    @demoniakira 4 роки тому +12

    The Baby concept and design are the only thing that i find cool from GT.

    • @GangstaProdukcja
      @GangstaProdukcja 4 роки тому

      Ghyulane Hydroxenn what about SSJ4?

    • @demoniakira
      @demoniakira 4 роки тому +1

      Meh.

    • @ThatDragonGuy
      @ThatDragonGuy 4 роки тому

      @@GangstaProdukcja It was introduced you early and nerfed

    • @somethingsomewhere66
      @somethingsomewhere66 4 роки тому

      @@ThatDragonGuy too early? there was literally only 29 episodes left goku went ssj4 in ep 35 and the entire thing was like 64 episodes, how is that too early?

    • @devilfromhell8546
      @devilfromhell8546 4 роки тому +1

      ssj4?

  • @adriancampbell2192
    @adriancampbell2192 4 роки тому +2

    What needs to happen is simple:
    Shine some more light on Planet Sadala because Cabba mentioned there being a King there. Take a few episodes to let Vegeta learn some more history about everything. Make some of GT canon to where we can get a better understanding of this Tuffle-Saiyan war. Also, explain who King Vegeta really is. Supposedly Prince Vegeta is a fourth. & Last, but not least if "Yamoshi" is the king of Sadala?? I wish Goku would wish his dad back.
    I'm willing to bet anything that when super returns, it's gonna fill us in on ALOT of things. Especially now since it's many other universes with Gods & angels. Also hoping the series to run like Z did. We need more than 131 episodes. At least 200! That way nothing is rushed & we can get the stories & arcs in full depth

  • @daddyGbaby
    @daddyGbaby 4 роки тому +11

    didn't Vegeta state that the sayians rebelled because they were being treated like slaves by truffles.

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  4 роки тому

      English Dub Trash Lines probably

  • @HitKLHman
    @HitKLHman 4 роки тому +19

    Funny vegeta is so short lol. Let’s find out. Vegeta was half tuffle

    • @klokinstein
      @klokinstein 4 роки тому +5

      That would break him.

    • @HitKLHman
      @HitKLHman 4 роки тому +2

      Kinda explain why he couldnt go ssj 2 took him til berrus slapping bulma. Nor ssj3.

    • @TyReckless117
      @TyReckless117 4 роки тому +3

      2HAYLOR1 what are you talking about ? He had SS2 in the BUU arc

    • @HitKLHman
      @HitKLHman 4 роки тому +2

      TyeNostrodomus idk man. Have to listen to what they say when vegeta faced goku. Vegeta needed majin stamp to give him a boost to pass gohan ssj2. Vegeta also said to goku that he was stronger than his son in the cell arc. Yet goku was way passed that ssj3. If goku would have just went ssj3 vs vegeta. He would have wiped the floor with him. Goku hid his power to have a even spar with vegeta.
      Goku conceded to fight vegeta in another area so he wouldn’t kill any more innocent bystanders. But he never took that fight seriously cause buu was the main threat

    • @devilfromhell8546
      @devilfromhell8546 4 роки тому +1

      @@HitKLHman well you're not wrong cause vegeta couldn't actually go ssj2 until majin thing happened but it was way before beerus slaps bulma and vegeta's state in battle of god was called ssj2 quake which he used to fight beerus when beerus slaped bulma

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 4 роки тому +4

    I hunger for a spin off mini-series about that war, maybe with King Vegeta or Bardock as villain protagonists

    • @lauraannevely
      @lauraannevely 4 роки тому

      SkyTech RTS me too, I didn’t care for super, I always thought a back story if it all would be cooler.

  • @bj318
    @bj318 4 роки тому +8

    I was waiting at the door for this notification

  • @SSJHarvey
    @SSJHarvey 4 роки тому +1

    Geekdom101 i just wanna say I was a (Dragonball head) but uve gone ABOVE AND BEYOND to teach me things that I never knew about Dragonball and turn me into a Grade 4 super Saiyan and I THANK U SO MUCH for your dedication ❤️

  • @sanyawilliams2499
    @sanyawilliams2499 4 роки тому +10

    What if broly has some type of relation to the first super Saiyan.

  • @peterortiz1160
    @peterortiz1160 4 роки тому +8

    Damn, this was a good episode

  • @xavierh1744
    @xavierh1744 4 роки тому +23

    King Vegeta said "ight they needa head out"

  • @cuauhtemocgonzales2530
    @cuauhtemocgonzales2530 4 роки тому +1

    Before the Broly movie I always wondered why Prince Vegeta isn't known as Vegeta Jr. but after watching the movie I understand why he isn't known as Vegeta Jr.

  • @zp944
    @zp944 4 роки тому +2

    Appreciate the work you do on putting these videos together

  • @gabenbenitamesa6893
    @gabenbenitamesa6893 4 роки тому +2

    Hell yeah, I've always liked GT because of the lore about the Saiyan war. Among other things. I don't know why some people didn't like it as much as I.

  • @ss.fx3626
    @ss.fx3626 4 роки тому +3

    They should make a film showcasing the history of sayians from their beginnings to their rise in power

  • @richiefranklin76
    @richiefranklin76 4 роки тому +3

    The Tsufurians sort of remind me of the Elves from Black clover.
    A highly intelligent and peace loving race,that eventually were obliterated to extinction.Yet somehow managed to return later as hate filled malevolent entities,bent on revenge against the race that killed them.
    So in that case Licht is pretty much the equivalent of Baby/the Tsufurian king

  • @GabrielCruz-xj6ir
    @GabrielCruz-xj6ir 4 роки тому +9

    If the saiyans were evil then why did the tuffles betray them and used them as slaves?

  • @rhysparry2855
    @rhysparry2855 3 роки тому +2

    I think dbs should make a film about the entire ancient saiyans

  • @peterdeluce9513
    @peterdeluce9513 4 роки тому +4

    Geekdom mentioning Tuffles being short gave me a thought; what if Vegeta's mom was Tuffle or at least part Tuffle? It might explain his and Tarble's height, their less brutish appearance, and above average intellect (for saiyans). Vegeta being as powerful as he is could come from being a hybrid and even Tarble is actually relatively strong considering he could stand up to the Freeza level Abo and Cabo enough to give them "some trouble". I doubt this is Toriyama's plan but it could be an interesting twist seeing as we've never seen Vegeta's mother in the series. It would be an enormous shock to Vegeta's pride and possibly give him a new level of character development that takes him beyond "the warrior race"

    • @boulettex1838
      @boulettex1838 4 роки тому +2

      Nope, not possible.

    • @aaronsorensen9499
      @aaronsorensen9499 4 роки тому

      @Peter Deluce That actually would be a really cool Character arc for him!

    • @Naruku2121
      @Naruku2121 4 роки тому

      That could be interesting, Vegeta's Mom has not had no real impact. Unlike Goku's mom the hypothetical Queen of Sayians could of been expanded on. Did she die post Tarble? Do women Saiyans particuarly the 'Queen' even have 'Status' to begin with. Maybe she was just one of several concubines...aaand I'm reading too much into this.

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 4 роки тому

      @@maymay5600 genes skip a generation

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 4 роки тому

      @@maymay5600 raditz is over 6ft tall while bardock is 5'9 same goes for goku so eh

  • @MusicWorldVNT
    @MusicWorldVNT 4 роки тому +6

    As a middle schooler I alway made up a story where there was some saiyans that was away when Freeza attacked... These saiyan continue to live a savage life for there it makes them naturally stronger...... A “evil” saiyan takeover story would be bad ass.

  • @mikisouskue4428
    @mikisouskue4428 4 роки тому +2

    What do you think about a Saiyan tuffle hybrid be like?

  • @vegettoblack7852
    @vegettoblack7852 4 роки тому +11

    Ive always seen the saiyand and tuffles being like the athenians and spartians of cladsical greece

    • @littleraul8208
      @littleraul8208 4 роки тому +1

      I see it More like tuffles as the late Roman empire and the saiyans as the Germanic tribes

  • @xavierstewart5756
    @xavierstewart5756 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for doing this video!

  • @TheDiscoDev
    @TheDiscoDev 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video that deals with a great aspect of Dragonball history. I always loved the episode of DBZ where King Kai tells the story of the war. I always wanted to hear more about it. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @SuperTyrannt
    @SuperTyrannt 4 роки тому +4

    It'll be cool if they adapted some of this and made it so that a few of them got away to rebuild their race in a corner of the galaxy. They could find out about it through Jaco (cuz they never really ask) and turns out they're big contributors of the galactic patrol. Open hostility to Goku and especially Vegeta, Vegeta feeling a bit of guilt and constant squabbles over bad blood.
    I could see a story arc about this.

  • @grven4287
    @grven4287 6 місяців тому

    I love how you discarded everything from Super. Thank you

  • @ThePrometheus617
    @ThePrometheus617 4 роки тому +1

    I thought i was told that King Vegeta went to the planet PLANT because he was in a civil war in the original Saiyan planet

  • @DBSChronicles
    @DBSChronicles 4 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed the video. Thanks for the in depth explanation. ❤🙏

  • @javierfavela2255
    @javierfavela2255 4 роки тому +8

    Hey Geekdom101, how come u didn't mention the DBZ TV special "Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans"?🤔

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  4 роки тому +2

      because its a video game

    • @javierfavela2255
      @javierfavela2255 4 роки тому +1

      A game, I always thought it was a TV special like "Bardock The Father of Goku"!😕

  • @kathyprior4281
    @kathyprior4281 4 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed this video very much. It was interesting to dig deeper into the Saiyan Tuffle war event.

  • @JoeDirtisawsome
    @JoeDirtisawsome 4 роки тому +1

    technically, Saiyans and Tuffles are the correct names as well. just because the names were translated to English, doesnt mean that the names are wrong. As an english speaker, do you say Spain or Espania?

  • @keysersoze375
    @keysersoze375 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your authenticity of the conflict of the Tsurfujins and Saiyajins..At last the truth behind the Tsurfujins,Dr Lychee,Baby The Tsurfujin King and Hatchiyack..Domo Arigato

  • @Boristien405
    @Boristien405 4 роки тому +4

    I'm thinking the legendary super Saiyan definitely could've first actually been discovered in universe 6

  • @mnj4christ516
    @mnj4christ516 4 роки тому +6

    Bruh the tuffles are still stronger than the average human 10x earth gravity would slowly kill any human so despite their size the tuffles were probably pretty strong in their own right

  • @Glamosapien
    @Glamosapien 4 роки тому +2

    Dragonball has so much potential to go into the lore and origins of the saiyansz vegeta has his brother who could potentially know were nore information exists about saiyans. I love the idea that saiyans evolved from oozarus too

  • @fedenciogonzalezjr9051
    @fedenciogonzalezjr9051 2 роки тому +1

    Great video I was always interested in that part of the history in dbz thanks for the research 👍

  • @johnrhogan2908
    @johnrhogan2908 4 роки тому +1

    One thing I love about your Dragon Ball videos, is the research that goes into each video, from this recent In Depth to the Saiya-jin transformations.
    Can't wait for the Super Saiya-jin God & Super Saiya-jin Blue videos. Looking forward to getting brought up to speed, cause I didn't watch DBSuper from beginning to end. I jumped on during the Tournament of Power story (Best animation quality).

  • @antcow1239
    @antcow1239 4 роки тому +1

    I realized something with the arrival of Cumber. He was an ancient Saiyan, who came from the original home world of his race.
    The saiyans who arrived on what would be called planet Vegeta were the weakest of their kind and evacuated Salada before it was destroyed.

  • @devilfromhell8546
    @devilfromhell8546 4 роки тому +2

    1:05 man tsufurians are sooooo tiny then saiyans even not in oozaru,so basically they will be tiny for even humans

  • @topshotta352
    @topshotta352 4 роки тому +1

    I think Oozaru being the original primary form makes sense or perhaps Saiyans themselves are a diluted version of a race that resembled the great ape.
    Greatest part of this essay is the decision to forgo Super lore.

  • @daytonchris8351
    @daytonchris8351 4 роки тому +1

    i always thought king vegeta was only king because he led the saiyans to take over planet tuffle. i never knew he came from an actual royale bloodline. thanks for clearing that up for me.

  • @SoccerStar26
    @SoccerStar26 4 роки тому +1

    This was an awesome video, hopefully next movie has some more Saiyan history lore in the first portion

  • @gokulee2133
    @gokulee2133 4 роки тому +12

    Your viewers are not japanese. Your just confessing casuls. Nobody calls them tha. But purest, who thinkk there better then everybody. Sorry not trying to be rude. But tired of people trashing there oiwn language but i respect you. Have a greatday :)

  • @pop6ixdouble004
    @pop6ixdouble004 4 роки тому +2

    Sayians are like Spartans 💯💯

  • @user-qg8qg2sp7i
    @user-qg8qg2sp7i 10 місяців тому

    DBZ games should have a museum exhibit on the saiyan race, their lives before Frieza and their leaders past and present including their uniforms, jewelry and personal portraits

  • @codykoch6299
    @codykoch6299 4 роки тому

    Jeez brother!! You never cease to amaze me. Great job once again also I wish you well on your journey to getting your health back . We are all sending genki.

  • @v.e.s2884
    @v.e.s2884 3 роки тому +2

    A movie about this will be so damm good

  • @jpmchausse
    @jpmchausse 4 роки тому

    Love the lore videos that aren't really shown or told in order in the show. Thanks for the vid man!

  • @nuniesk8s
    @nuniesk8s 4 роки тому

    Im happy to be back! I got alot catching up to! Happy to see you keeping strong geekdom101!

  • @ssj_skylab121
    @ssj_skylab121 4 роки тому +6

    GT’s Baby and Shadow Dragon arcs were really good. Just those ideas make GT better than DBS for me

  • @real_kicks1
    @real_kicks1 4 роки тому +1

    Yessir, I get a speakdom and a Geekdom vid about the saiyans!!

  • @Ksmoove0824
    @Ksmoove0824 4 роки тому +3

    i wish the anime did more of telling the story of the Saiyans from dragonball to dragonball z

  • @UchiGang
    @UchiGang 4 роки тому +1

    I love this omg. They need release these officially man. They’d make a killing.

  • @iEndFuturez
    @iEndFuturez 4 роки тому +13

    Am I the only one who couldn’t watch the video just off how he’s pronouncing saiyans 😂😂😂

  • @quartzquantum7530
    @quartzquantum7530 4 роки тому +11

    I hope someday that Vegeta goes to Planet Sandala.

    • @ANKOBROWN
      @ANKOBROWN 4 роки тому +3

      Me too. I think vegeta will cry a little. I would be happy for vegeta.

    • @AmonsRealm
      @AmonsRealm 4 роки тому +3

      ANKOBROWN I feel like he would be mad that Sayains are soft lol

    • @ANKOBROWN
      @ANKOBROWN 4 роки тому

      @@AmonsRealm he was mad that cabba was soft. Vegeta needs goku, gohan, broly, trunks and goten to come and teach the universe 6 saiyans what they could be.

  • @SuperRichyrich11
    @SuperRichyrich11 4 роки тому

    “Vegeta my son, the planet, or me?”
    “Yes.”
    *gets blasted*
    “Fuckin smartass”

  • @SILOPshuvambanerjee
    @SILOPshuvambanerjee 4 роки тому +1

    If Tuffles and Saiyans were united, then Freeza couldn't destroy the planet

  • @mauricetejada6553
    @mauricetejada6553 4 роки тому +1

    Toriyama is slick
    planet plant was the saiyan's world, and all their names are based on plants, specifically vegetables
    examples:
    kakorrot - carrot
    bardock - burdock
    vegeta and tarble - vegetable

  • @wildstriker128
    @wildstriker128 4 роки тому +2

    Saiyans vs Science

  • @benwelsh5265
    @benwelsh5265 4 роки тому

    I've been looking forward to this one and I'm happy to say I'm not disappointed.

  • @DrSugarRay
    @DrSugarRay 4 роки тому

    Danny, I absolutely *LOVE* that *THUMBNAIL* picture, brotha'...pretty *DOPEtacular !!*

  • @johnneil3671
    @johnneil3671 4 роки тому

    Thumbs up for this great video geekdom. Good Job

  • @RatedRMario21
    @RatedRMario21 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder if King Cold was the one who triggered the war, encouraging the Saiyans to attack the Tsufruians and steal their technology. I always blamed Frieza and family for turning Saiyans "evil," to me they were like the Spartans or the Amazon indigenous tribes who were aggressive but not really conquerors

  • @moo-snuckle
    @moo-snuckle 4 роки тому +1

    i was literally just commenting on the tuffles and their story with the saiyans like 15 minutes ago. what are the chances? i always felt this put things a little more in perspective on what the saiyans were about and their motivations, and how they came to have alot of sweet tech on their side as well as racial strengths.

  • @ChrisCarrasquillo
    @ChrisCarrasquillo 4 роки тому +4

    Gt had great ideas with poor execution. If i was Toriyama I'd incorporate the Baby and shadow dragons Arcs into super.

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 роки тому +1

      Nope. Please stop. Nobody wants the shity kid goku again

    • @ChrisCarrasquillo
      @ChrisCarrasquillo 4 роки тому

      @@masknzgamer not the kid goku stuff but like the villains and the concepts around them.

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 роки тому +1

      @@ChrisCarrasquillo i really don't like gt that much. It was really really boring. Ssj4 was definitely the only highlight. Even gogeta was boring. Because back in the 90s. Animation was restricted and it really didn't feel that op