Troy 2004 | Achilles And Priam
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2021
- Troy is a 2004 epic historical war film directed by Wolfgang Petersen and written by David Benioff. Produced by units in Malta, Mexico and Britain's Shepperton Studios, the film features an ensemble cast led by Brad Pitt, Eric Bana, and Orlando Bloom. It is loosely based on Homer's Iliad in its narration of the entire story of the decade-long Trojan War-condensed into little more than a couple of weeks, rather than just the quarrel between Achilles and Agamemnon in the ninth year. Achilles leads his Myrmidons along with the rest of the Greek army invading the historical city of Troy, defended by Hector's Trojan army. The end of the film (the sack of Troy) is not taken from the Iliad, but rather from Quintus Smyrnaeus's Posthomerica as the Iliad concludes with Hector's death and funeral.
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Budget $175-185 million
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That day, Achilles found a king that fought his own battles.
What a sight it was.
Man this was the most powerfull coment ive read about this movie ever. omg, never tought this before. :0
Underrated comment
Truly beautiful comment
Wished Achilles and Odysseus were on Troy's side and fight for a better King like Priam
@@tylergalvez5033 why fight for someone.
"I loved my son from the moment he opened his eyes, until the moment you closed them".
This movie is so great
😭
That line hit deep
Yes thank you for telling us what we already know.
@@SergioGarcia-on1cv I just wanted you to know that, I loved my son from the moment he opened his eyes, until the moment you closed them.
Peter O'Toole killed this scene. He was nothing but masterful in this scene.
Kind of cheating with that voice. He could read the tax code out loud, and it would sound epic
This is also the epitome of the whole Iliad. Im greek, and I wish you could understand greek too, to understand how wonderful Homer describes this
He apparently hated the finished film
Best park of the movie and Iliad
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox because they cut out tons of dialogue. The directors cut is great.
Achilles realized two things here.
1. He fights for the wrong king
And 2. Killing the person that killed his cousin didn’t bring him satisfaction nor cured his sorrows
Great points. Point number can also been said about Michael Corleone who killed his own brother and regreted for his life
He had to kill him
He always said that he dont have a king.
@@xofmetleh6618 But he was still fighting for Agamenon, so...
@@Subzeroportalgamer I thought he was fighting for glory
"How many cousins have *you killed, brave Achilles?" The sharpest retort.
And said in such a calm, even tone had more effect than a shout would have done
Like seriously Hector killed the dude in battle, not in cold blood. Didn’t execute him after he surrendered or humiliated him, tortured him or mutilated his corpse. It was clean kill by Hector…in battle. Achilles was absolutely not likable in the movie
How many brave, Achilles*
This is when Achilles realized that he was fighting for the wrong king
Achilles never fought for a king
In the original book, he cried not because he regretted for killing Hector or feeling sorry for him. He cried because he realized he's the next one to die. (according to his prophecy)
@@anstjsdlr No, he cried because of Patroclus (assuming you mean the Iliad); it's made quite clear that he doesn't care anymore whether he lives or dies at that point, and willingly accepted his fate.
@@TheNabOwnzz That is what I said. He cried because his prophecy had been fulfilled, so he realized that his end was near. Of course he cried for Patrocleus, but that is not the main reason.
@@anstjsdlr (Again, assuming you mean the Iliad), that is not quite right, since Achilles doesn't lament a moment for his imminent demise. It is solely Patroclus for whom he laments. He confesses this even to his talking horses who try to prophesy his demise. His grief for Patroclus made him indifferent to his fate; that was all, really.
The line about Priam loving his son until Achilles killed him was chilling. Peter O'Toole made that scene.
"I loved my boy from the day he opened his eyes, to the moment you closed them." That was literally heartbreaking to hear him say that
For all the glory Achilles had, it was Hector that was the better man in the end.
I can see that but also how War consumes everyone no matter how lauded or Good they may be reminds of the quote...
“The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.”
― Ernest Hemingway, A Farewell to Arms
In the illiad hector's a hypocrite, wasting no time in disrespecting patrolclus corpse and stealing Achilles armor from it.
@@lock376 that's not what I have read, it was Ajax fighting for the armour and would ultimately commit suicide for this reason.
Hector was a modern hero, one that would form later, under the influence of Christianity. Achilles was a classical hero.
@@indrajithak47 then you didn't read the Iliad from which this movie is from
I love how Achilles picks the King up off his knees when he realizes who he is...
Don’t even think of it like that
@@Dreamersward Why?
@@stevem2323 meant to say Didn’t.
I always interpreted that as Achilles threatening him by letting him feel his physical strength, but maybe it was indeed a show of respect.
For those who wonder why Priam said Achilles took his only son when he still had Paris, in the original mythology, Priam actually disowned the rest of his living sons after Hector's death as they were all very cowardly and refused to defend Troy in battle.
What? Is the fact that Paris killed Achilles not the defense of Troy by your thoughts?
@@MegaStamkos He did defend but he also ran away from battle many times. In fact, Hector even found him hiding once.
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Thank you for supplying this information. Plus Paris was a mark ass bitch.
*"We'll meet again soon my brother" mourns his enemy after the enemy king taught him they can still be respectful, what a glorious scene* 🙏
enemy king wasn't humble until he had to be- he wasn't respectful until he fucked around and found out
"We'll meet again soon, my brother." Is about how his mother told him that he'll never come back the moment he set foot on Troy. He knows he's a dead man walking, and he'll see Hector again soon.
@@pogiakolagi1909 *such true words!* 🙏🙏🙏
I love how he cries over Hector's body. It's like it's finally driven home that he not only killed an honorable man, but the son of an equally honorable king. It probably overwhelmed him, Priam's courage and kindness; a warlord like Achilles probably only ever dealt with men who praise him, hate him, die by his hand, or otherwise fear him---never a man who not only genuinely respects him, but is himself worthy of respect. Being addressed by someone with gravitas like that, especially when you're not used to it, can really disarm you and affect you deeply.
"You are still my enemy tonight. But even enemies can show respect"
You can then see Achille's silent gasp. Even his faltering last line of defense ("Yeah but we're ennemies") against Priam's heart sincere pleas have been broken. Damn that look upwards is the one of a man holding his tears.
Since the very begining of their interraction, Achilles is moved by Priam's pleas but tries to hide it by arguing against it. But Priam is the better man. This to show that power and strenght go hand in hand with morals and legitimity. Like Briseis said earlier: "If killing is your only talent, this is your curse". Achilles figured out too late that his talent could not solve everything nor legitimate itself. And he cried over that.
As he was interracting with Priam, his anger gave way to wisdom. Maybe it is that wisdom that led him to his demise, giving away his invulnerability to humanity?
Last para 🔥
I think this illustrates nicely how at the time of this war Persia was a highly advanced civilization while the Greeks were upcoming viles. Persians had more highly developed philosophy, civic life, etc.
Well said bro. I love the way Achilles is being portrayed in this movie. Achilles was portrayed as someone who listens to reason & rationale. That's contrary to common belief that in the Troy mythology Achilles was a damn warrior who was always overwhelmed by his anger & impulse.
@3hutp this is set in 1200BC. Persia attacked Greece in 480sBC. Troy was a Greek state back then, as was most of minor Asia. Actually let me correct myself. Greece wasn't even a thing back then. Achaens were part of the Mycenean culture. They didn't even write in what later becomes the Greek alphabet.
heyyyy u like Mee I tall u I remmber just this for 20 years u r still my enemy tonight I love uuu
Man this scene hits deep. I love the honor and respect shown by both Priam and Achilles. Especially when Achilles mourns for Hector out of respect for who he was and what he stood for.
I remember crying during this scene...
Honor is something we have since lost
Probably the Most Powerful scene in the Movie.... A King that knows humility.... "Your still my enemy tonight, but even enemies can show respect" THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL QUOTE IN THE MOVIE🎯🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯💯
Best line in the movie! Achilles had never seen a king show so much courage, respect, and humility...
I couldn't agree with U more. Achilles found wisdom talking to king Priam while Achilles developed hatred dealing/talking with king Agamemnon.
Him crying over Hectors body knowing he killed the only other warrior who was even close to the warrior realm Achilles was in. Realizing that his skill is his curse all at the same time and much more to explain. This scene is truly a masterpiece.
Can you imagine if Hector and Achilles on the same side? They could be brother in arms.
That's the point: they could have been, have the war not been between their countries.
Every war is basically where people who could have otherwise been best friends are forced to fight each other just because of some idiots who have a stupid ambition.
They're 2nd cousins I think
If the Myrmidons joined the Trojans the Greeks would be screwed.
"How did you get in here?" one does not become an old king without leveling his sneak to 100.
To me this is where the respect begins. This old man in pure dark of night was able to sneak past the whole army and right into the tent of Achilles. How did he know which was his tent? How was able to see in the night? How was he able to move so quietly?
i think this is where Achilles knew that Priam fought his way out just to get his son body, despite silently moving through the night. A king that fought their own battle.
RIP Peter O'Toole (August 2, 1932 - December 14, 2013), aged 81
And
RIP Wolfgang Petersen (March 14, 1941 - August 12, 2022), aged 81
You both will be remembered as legends.
Jesus Christ, Peter O'Toole was such a great actor
"Even enemies can show respect"
Such wisdom. That's why Priam lived to be an old man
*"You really think death frightens me now."*
Some of the bravest words spoken in cinematic history delivered by the legendary actor Peter O' Toole. This line, to this day, gives me chills.
*Why Peter O'Toole didn't get an Oscar for this scene is just unforgivable. Best scene in the entire movie.* 👌
Peter O'Toole blew me away in this scene. Absolutely mesmerizing.
Achillies crying for Hector.
That is respect and honour.
What a great scene.
Priam with his words alone humbled the greatest warrior, disarmed him and had him in awe and respect. Notice how gentle he is while picking him up and placing him in a seat, and how he almost cowered when Priam got closer to him, he was awestruck and disarmed by an old mans pain in losing his son. There will never be another actor like O'toole.
"i love my boy from the moment he opened his eyes till the moment you closed them" this hits so hard... my god..
hands down best scene in the movie, the whole of the iliad is pretty much a build-up to this moment where achilles sees the pointlessness of his rage and learns that he can and should show respect to even his enemies if they are worthy of it. while i have problems with this movie *cough* patroclus as cousin *cough* but this scene is in my opinion perfect, and the acting by Peter O'Toole is just phenomenal
in the original iliad it doesn't say patroclus is Achilles lover so I don't get why people are so caught up on that. It's only writers after that made this accusation.
@@ryoshi3828 (edit typo) it’s not mentioned because it was something every Ancient Greek would understand, they had this awful system of pederasty where a young boy transitions to a man under the care, mentoring, and sexual relationship with older established men. they had these accommodations in war too, men forming a relationship to help each other through war formed similar bonds. The poem doesn’t need to state it because it didn’t need to be written for the audience it was meant for to understand that Achilles and Patroclus love each other in the way the Ancient Greeks thought it was normal for a man to love a man. The Ancient Greeks are kinda crazy fan boys about the Trojan war. It was a momentous thing when polis joined polis to wage war together against the Trojans.
@@AverageAwesomeDude What I like and find impressive is that even though undocumented, Herodotous has mentioned that the Greek ships sailing to Troy was a force that big that you could not see the ocean. Just ships. From his account (even though Trojan War was 800 years before him) to this day that was the biggest naval invasion in the History of mankind
@@AverageAwesomeDude The iliad mentions 1200 ships sailing even though claimed afterwards was that the war may have had many more
@@AverageAwesomeDude That is one of the greatest lies about ancient Greeks, if not the greatest, a lover in ancient Greece has a different meaning than now about 4000 years after
Him weeping for Hector changed my outlook on Achilles.
"I admire your courage." I love that line!
I can’t be the only one who had tears in this scene 😢
Powerful scene...powerful lines...epic movie.
Only one thing I would change
@@alexmcafee5914 ???
In the Illiad story, it is only the forgiveness of Priam that relieves Achilles from the grief of Patroclus' death. This scene is the cover of the published book, it's what the Illiad is about, the tragedy of war and the power of forgiveness.
Priam never forgives him, nor would Achilles have expected him to.
Achilles grieves for Patroclus again, grieves for his father who he will never see again, then feasts with Priam and goes to sleep. That is the last we see of him. We don’t know if he stopped grieving for Patroclus.
Deep inside Achilles knew that war was nonsense. He knew Greeks and Trojans were the same people in the end. He makes it clear when says goodbye to Hector and calls “brother”.. beautiful scene.
Egos and lost souls, the world will always have people too stubborn to do the right thing.
I think there's one crucial difference here. It's not that they are the same people. The point is that they aren't. They are sworn enemies, as much as Germans were our enemies in the world wars. They're not our people. And yet, Achilles, the perfect Achaean Soldier, who serves his nation with honor, nonetheless learns to respect his enemy, to see his humanity. Perhaps even recognize the "you and I are not so different".
It's the story of soldiers throughout the ages: the hardest thing, to recognize that soldier on the other side is just like you. He suffers as you do. He could've been your brother. And you both kill each other for the benefit of your kings, and there is glory in that. Yet knowing this, does not compel the soldier to treason or desertion: he still serves his nation, and if the gods will it, will die for it. That's what makes him a true soldier.
That story continues to this day. We may condemn the Iraq invasion, yet honor the soldier who served there. And soldiers to this day have to fight the urge to torture and mutilate captives. It's still difficult to allow that nazi pig an honorable burial. Even though he may just be a conscripted boy who was raised a few miles from you. He's not that different. But he's not of your people. He is your enemy. Not tomorrow. Today, while you show him respect.
He's basically fighting for the greed of a bad king
@@sorsocksfake I think the quote from Shakespeare's Henry V sums it up (I apologize for paraphrasing): For he who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
O‘Toole delivers each line with such a powerful and complex depth, that even an A-Lister like Pitt, although he nails it, completely pales in comparison! Wow
"Even enemies can show respect" powerful words!!
Achilles: "He killed my cousin."
Me: "How many people's relatives did you kill, and they are unavenged?"
This was the moment Achilles realized how foolish war is and who he should have fought for.
The look on Achilles face after speaking with Priam was like "fuck, now THAT'S a king."
The cry from Achilles was like he realised how much of a monster he's become. Masterpiece of film!
This scene is an absolute masterclass in acting.
I remember watching this in theatres...and you could hear many people sniffling and getting the tissues out
I have to say that both actors just nailed this scene. Peter O Toole's acting just kept getting to this point.
Brad Pitt and Peter O'toole. Two exceptional thespians. The most heart wrenching and best acted scene of the whole film.
The line 'I have endured what no-one on earth has endured before - i kissed the hands of the man who killed my son' is such a powerful and emotional line, expertly portrayed by the legendary Peter O'Toole.
Such an amazing film this is!
Achilles weeping on Hector's body is a poetry in itself.. 😢
3:30 this is the moment I realised how great an actor Brad Is the way he can change his face and eyes from serious to shock. Amazing
And in that moment the great achilles was defeated not by sword or spear or axe or by the hands of a giant of a man or by the clutches of poison but by an old and wise king who's words cut deeper and swifter then anything achilles had fought before and it was at that moment that achilles understood that there truly was people far wiser and greater then he.
“We will meet again soon my brother” respect
The one kill that Achilles had ever regretted, even shed tears.
🔥 Elon’s telling us that having the courage 2 fight gives a mans life honour & meaning, but war itself is tragic! This is the moral of Homers Illiad. 🔥
Not only is this scene wondrously acted, but it is extremely faithful to the source material, i.e. Homer's Iliad. The dialogue is almost verbatim from the text. Props!
Haha, bro, why are you lying? Verbatim dialogue not even once, bro! Not even verbatim course of events, bruh.
@@genesisbustamante-durian va a studiare allora
@@genesisbustamante-durian go, take your troubled soul elsewhere. You gain nothing from your cynicism
Wrong 😂
Achilles calling Hector brother in solidarity or out of respect is a laughable concept if you actually read the Iliad. He doesn’t even call Patroclus brother, nor does he express any remorse for Hector, only giving him back because he felt sorry for Priam and was ordered by the gods.
The depictions of Agamemnon, Menelaus and Ajax are practically unrecognisable compared to the source material apart from the brotherly bond between the Atreides (depicted best in a scene that didn’t even make the theatrical cut), and the omission of Diomedes for example hurts the soul of anybody who appreciates the Iliad.
This scene is soooo so good the dialogue the acting
One of the best dialogues in a movie ever quoted.
One of the greatest scenes ever. Both great actors. But Peter O'Toole's acting really makes you believe that his son got killed.
A very powerful scene in my opinion.
This scene and the crying of Achilles over Hector's body for his old father makes the ILIAD a power ful epic for PEACE!
Two respected kings in the most heartwarming moment of a tough war conflict.
The first one is Achilles; young, stubborn and archetype of bravery. Son of king of the Myrmidons Peleus of Phthia and goddess Thetis. The main subject of the epic poem “Iliad” is “the wrath of Achilles” and the events it sparked off. In the scene you’re about to read, this famous wrath gives way to the greatness of his opponent and another aspect of the hero’s character is revealed. Achilles takes part in the siege of Troy carried out by the allied Greek cities army.
The second one is Priam, the old king of Troy; the glorious city under siege by the Achaeans now. His son Paris-Alexander fell in love with beautiful Helen, wife of king of Sparta, and took her with him to Troy. The Achaeans are here to take her back. Hector, his other son, killed Patroclus during a battle as he was wearing Achilles’ armor. Patroclus was Achilles’ dear childhood friend and he revenged his death by killing Hector in a duel. Then, blinded by rage and sorrow he dishonored the dead body of the prince by dragging it back to his camp fastened to his chariot. This impiety towards a dead person, and even more towards a great warrior and prince, came as surprise not only to the Trojans, but even to the Achaeans. But who would ever dare to stand up against Achilles? Anyone would tremble in fear before this irritable and stubborn semi-god. Anyone but one who had nothing more to lose!
Priam, as a child, had already experienced the destruction of his hometown by Hercules’ army. He grew up to be a skillful and fair king and his people loved him deeply. Now in his old age he was about to live through the same calamity. But before watching his city burn down to the ground, he witnessed his sons getting killed one after another. In Hector’s case, he did not only have to deal with his sorrow for losing his crown prince, but he even had to face his pain for witnessing his son’s corpse being dishonored. Hector was still lying unburied outside Achilles’ tent and Priam decided to go meet with Achilles himself and plead for his son’s body to be returned in exchange for ransom. He took off one night and sneaked into the Achaean camp. God Hermes, the one who accompanies the dead to the Underworld, helped him and he reached Achilles’ tent unnoticed and entered the tent of the king of Myrmidons without any hesitation. The scene unfolding between the two kings as described by Homer in Iliad (24: 485 - 676) is amazing!
lderly and weathered king Priam kneels before the murderer of his child, touches his knees and kisses his hands. This was the traditional way to plead at that time. Achilles just lost it! All the others standing around were simply staring at each other full of surprise. Priam remains dedicated to his cause. He looks at Achilles and speaks out to him:
“Divine Achilles, remember your father who is, like me, on the grievous door step of senility. Maybe he, too, is all alone in sorrow and no one is there to defend him. But when he hears that you are alive, his heart is filled with joy. Because he still hopes that one day he will see his beloved son returning from Troy. But I, I am utterly unblest, seeing I begat sons the best in Troy, yet of them not one is left…”
He explains the purpose of his unexpected visit and pleads: “Show respect to the gods, Achilles, and pity on me, remembering your own father. I am far more piteous than he, and have endured what no other man has ever endured, to bring to my mouth the hand of the man who killed my sons…”
And while he is still on his knees bawling in grief for his child, Achilles gently takes the old man’s hand and surrenders to his own grief. It is not only Patroclus he is grieving for.
Achilles knew that if he went to fight in Troy, he’d never come back. His mother had warned him and that’s why she had tried to hide him. But Achilles would rather die young and glorious than live a long yet insignificant life. And so, he knows he won’t get to see his father again and Priam’s maneuver to begin the conversation talking about Pileus was right on target! Achilles weeps together with his enemy at a terrifying moment when both have to face the common fate of man. This enormous rage that made him cross all limits now freezes out of respect and compassion for the noble elder with white hair. He reaches out and raises Priam, who can barely stand on his feet now, by his hand:
Ice breaks
“Ah unhappy man, too many are the evils you have endured in your soul. How did you find the courage to come here all alone and meet the eyes of me that have killed your sons? Your heart is truly made of iron! But come here, sit on the throne and despite our pain, let our suffers lie quiet in our hearts. For no profit comes with lament!
Because that is what the gods have arranged for the wretched mortals, that they should live in pain; and themselves are sorrowless. For two urns of gifts are set upon Zeus’ doorstep; one with ills and one with blessings. If you receive gifts from both urns, you will have good and bad things come your way. But whoever receives the ills only, will have a condemned life on this divine earth, hunted both by gods and humans.”
Digging up his memories, Achilles, who now is in a mental state similar to psychoanalysis, comes to realize that his father, Priam, is one of the luckiest people; one of those who have received Zeus’ gifts of both urns. He was king, wed to a goddess, and they had a son who grew up to be one of the greatest heroes of the Greeks. But now the time for sufferings had come. He won’t have his son by his side anymore, his son won’t take care of him in his old age and there will be no successor to his throne. Priam, who has lived a glorious royal life and was admired by everyone, has to face the same situation as Pileus. People said that Priam was the happiest man alive, and then evils knocked on his door; war, the loss of his children and soon the destruction of his city. Achilles does not say it directly, but maybe as he is describing the two elders’ fate, he might have noticed the tragic coincidence that both had crossed from happiness to sufferings because of a single wrong choice their sons made. Priam will be left all alone because Achilles disregarded death and chose glory, and Priam will suffer consequences because of Paris’ passionate love for Helen.
Achilles and Priam, conqueror and conquered, form a silent alliance for their own good. Both, knowing that they have no future, need to make amends with the past.
“Hold on strong and don’t let your heart break. Because grieving for your son will do us no good. You can’t bring him back to life”, Achilles says trying to comfort his new friend and sends his servants to wash Hector’s corpse and to take care of it as it is right to do. He announces a truce of eleven days for Priam to give his son the proper burial. As tradition states, ransom payment will seal the transaction. This way, the one who pleads preserves his dignity by paying for his son and not accepting any charity. As for Achilles, it gives him the right to say to dead Patroclus “don’t get mad at me Patroclus when you hear in Hades that I have freed Hector for his father’s sake, because the ransom were not humble. And you will get your fair share.”
Chaos was brought back to order and now these two men, who will be enemies tomorrow, can enjoy the inner peace they were looking for. Achilles invites Priam to dine with him. As he used to dine with Patroclus. While they are dining, Homer opens a small window for us to take a look at this moment of serenity as these two enjoy a moment of sacred friendship.
“… and Priam was admiring Achilles. He was so great and comely, like a god! But Achilles also was looking at Priam with admiration, for he was so noble and hearkening to his words!”
Iliad closes up with yet another supper when Priam holds a glorious feast at his palace following Hector’s funeral. What happened next when the war started again, we find out in later texts. Homer starts his poem with the famous phrase “Sing, goddess, the wrath of Peleus’ son, Achilles, that destructive wrath which brought countless woes upon the Achaeans” and ends with the verse “And such were the funeral rites of horse-tamer Hector”.
And this is how Homer honored the great and brave Hector. Two warrior kings enjoying the blessing of peace for a moment by his dead body. Two enemies had discovered virtues in each other’s eyes behind the atrocities of war. They both saw a peaceful man lost in the darkness of war. And they respected him.
HOMER-ILIAD
Damn. That was beautiful.
Thats how you write a story
Very beautiful analysis.
Great
Holy smoke, thats beautifully written. 🙏🙌
4:15 I love that moment when his stoic personality broke and let the emotion wash out as long as it takes until he can take control of himself again.
Even enemies can show respect.
Even enemies can show some respect!
Peter O’Toole only agreed to appear in this film on one condition - that he got to say these lines (that were in the original script he was shown) and that this speech was kept in the movie.
Even enemies can show respect😮😢
Troy is a timeless masterpiece
“You really think death frightens me now.”
Hands down the best scene in the movie! What a performance
This movie is truly underrated.
Ik Brad gets a lot of shit for his acting in this movie, but I find the awkward crying almost fitting. Achilles has been cold and harsh probably most his life, he simply doesn’t know how to weep when reality and the emotions finally overwhelm him.
Peter O Toole, one of the greatest ever. The way he deliver his lines with so much pain but elegance it's something you don't see in acting nowadays. I guess we've approached one of the darkest Hollywood eras in where the only thing that matters it's to align with a political movement or socially constructed beliefs rather than giving birth to well told stories like this one
"what no one on Earth has had to endure before"
That sentence breathes so much hurt and bravery in one.
It also draws many parallels with many similar situations in life including my own.
Wasn't there a line where Achilles said "You're a way better king than the one that lead this war?"
This was an amazing movie that I have watch it probably over 15 times till now but it never gets boring, they don't make them like that anymore.
I recall watching this movie almost religiously as a youngin’. And although I was always enthralled with the awesome combat choreography, the sound bytes and lines delivered in the quiet dialogue scenes had fastened themselves deep inside my mind. And rewatching this movie last night for the first time in at least 10 years, the lines are still just as heavy and poetic, and so beautiful. A true masterpiece of a movie in my opinion.
This is probably the most important scene in the whole movie
Achilles first battle that he is forced to flee. You can see by the end when he steps away from Priam he is so moved and guilt ridden by Priams words that he can barely hold his tears back. Great scene.
Thanks Elon! Magnificent clip that only piqued my interest in The Iliad. 🐐
This is to emotional ...
"How many cousins have U killed? How many sons and fathers and brothers and husbands, how many brave Achilles? Such very powerful questions/statements that definitely made Achilles realized old king Priam has a valid point. I think aside from earning Achilles' respect for his courage in sneaking deep into the enemy territory just to beg for the return of his beloved son's dead body & no less than the most ferocious warrior in history he has to beg before, king Priam also earned Achilles' respect as the old king was able to reason very well before Achilles. I have this feeling that in the afterlife, Achilles & Hector would be on the same side while the greedy & corrupt Agamemnon would be on the other side (Of course this is just a mythology). I think Achilles realized that he should not have hated & killed Hector when king Priam boldly talked to him & begged for him to return Hector's body for the proper funeral. I think Achilles is being portrayed in this movie as someone who also listens to reason & rationale. That explains why of all the kings of Greece, it was king Odysseus that Achilles respected the most & it was actually only king Odysseus that he listened to. Odysseus, indeed reasoned very well which earned Achilles' respect. Achilles weeping as he wrapped Hector's body before handing it to king Priam simply explained how he regretted killing a good man like Hector who was only after for the welfare of his father's kingdom.
Very moving. Wonderful actors. Truly great men can show mercy and civility even in war time.
Damn .. this scene is something extraordinary
The humanity in war!
Masterpiece
What a good actor, what a story.
Me and elon both on a Troy clips binge watching spree 😂😂
😲 Wow, moving
Priam walks into an enemy camp with no weapons or guards to beg for his dead son's body so he can honour him properly.
Agememnon kills his own daughter for favourable winds for his ships.
Achilles knew he was fighting for the wrong king.
"Even enemies can show respect".
A king who turns into a humble man, a warrior who finally understand the value of death. Sir Peter O'Toole, with his deep and gritty voice, eats Brad Pitt, but both gives superb performances on this, the best scene of all the movie, and possibly of all Wolfgang Petersen's career, for the tension, for the atmosphere, for the greatness of the feelings, for how good is shot and performed...
History of cinema.
I still to this day come back to this scene
This whole scene is the best in the movie ,, the conversation and the realisation by achilles,,
"We'll meet again soon my brother..."
Elon is a man of culture and good taste.
The greatness of Peter O’Toole
O'Toole and Brad Pitt, in this scene you see how O'Toole's acting dwarfs Pitt's performance.
This incredibly tragic scene is completely ruined if you turn on UA-cam's captions.
"Let me place two coins on his eyes for the Batman."
Because as we all know, the poor Dark Knight depends on his earnings from ferrying people over to the other side. If only he knew a wealthy sponsor like Bruce Wayne...
Elon Musk brought me here 😂
"You are still my enemy tonight, but even enemies can show respect."
Sempre choro nessa hora do filme, e não é pouco kkk
WAR...! WAR..! WAR..!
What we get from WAR..?
Nothing...!!
The only thing that you will get is sorrow for the rest of our life..
Will lost everything you built..you earn...and Family Members..
(That is my side of view..)
But yahh...
We also can't avoid war..! and must face it either you like it or not..!
We have to face it..WAR one way or another..!
I always admire this scene 🥲
"We'll meet again soon my brother" 😩
One of the deepest scenes,in the history of cinema..
Brad pitts acting here is superb. He had minimal dialogue but from his body language his emotional state can be inferred.
I like the look Achilles has when Priam says his father is lucky he didn't live to see him like this.