C919 Is a Joke! It Was Endured a Halt to Operations a Mere One Month Later
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- China's homegrown C919 airliner, having commenced its maiden commercial flight on May 28th, endured a halt to operations a mere one month later.
On the morning of June 29th, C919 was set to operate MU9187, jetting off from Shanghai to Chengdu, with a scheduled return flight at 12:30 in the afternoon. However, with the aircraft still grounded as late as 2:16 PM, China Eastern Airlines had no choice but to deploy the Airbus A320 as a stand-in. Intriguingly, the C919 did manage to return to Shanghai's Hongqiao Airport that evening, albeit without passengers.
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The best way to test an aircraft is good or not, just invite the CEO, engineers, top officials and few rich guys as passengers on each flight.
And their immediate family.
Great idea😅
In this particular case, Xi himself…
Whatever his flaws, at least Stockton went down with his ship...
The C919 is subjected to the same requirements as any other international plane and should be perfectly fine, especially when crucial parts are produced by Western companies. The start of the Boeing Dreamliner was way worse with many more malfunctions.
Everybody missed the point: C919 is NOT a plane, but a financial tool. So far 99% of the orders came from China's Financial companies NOT airlines! China Southern Airline didn't place any orders, China Eastern placed 5, Air China 5. BUT ICBC Financial ordered 100 planes!!! CCB Financial Ordered 50 Planes, CITC financial 18, Industrial Bank 20, ABC financial 65, China Huarong Financial 30 etc. The list goes on people should Wiki it. What's going on? Does China's financial institutions have pilots? Do they have any routes? Here is the TRUTH: Financial companies put 10% down and use the planes as collateral to borrow full amount from the bank at 2% interest (e.g. ABC Financial placed an order of 10B RMB with just 10% down. it then borrows 9B RMB from the bank using the planes as collateral); They then lend the money to the Real Estate builders at 13 ~ 15% interest because banks in China are no longer lending money to the builders since the risk is too high. If the real estate companies go under, these financial companies can dump these useless planes to the banks, That's all there is.
What could possibly go wrong? /s
Leasing companies buy airplanes to lease.
Sounds like a Tofu based Ponzi scheme.
@@JB-yb4wn That's totally ridiculous! C919 is a commercial plane; not Gulf Stream business jet. Leasing companies would buy business jets to lease to business, but why would it buy a None Proven commercial plane to lease to the airlines? China's airlines are mostly government owned, they have enough financial power to buy or lease directly from the manufacturer. If one C919 has a fatal accident, financial companies are on the hook for toxic assets instead of airlines. Does it make any business sense for them to do so? For 3 consecutive years China's airline industry didn't make any money. Why would any leasing company buy so many planes to lease to an industry that doesn't make any profit in the mid of the worst recession?
@@johndoe12366
Because, John, you have zero clue how the industry works:
How do airlines lease aircraft?
Usually, airlines enter into a sale and lease-back agreement with the lessors allowing them to acquire aircraft and sell it to a lessor - ideally at a profit - and then lease it back for its own use.
Google more, pontificate less.
What they couldn't steal they bought overseas, they would be lucky to give these tofu dregs away !
Being a true patriot, Winnie will step up to the plate and take a trip to Lahasa no doubt. Killing several birds with one great big stone. 👍
There was no high speed train accident in Indonesia .... this channel is completely lying....
@@satriojumeneng7055 CCP bot 🇨🇳
Are they building Kamaczas
China thought that they can catch up to Boeing and airbus in just one decade or less 😂, Boeing and airbus took decades and decades to get as good as it is today.
This has ”let's make steel" vibes about it. Xi truly is following in Mao's footsteps.
That’s because Boeing and Airbus had to do the r/d, china just plans on stealing that info
China is not interested in doing any thing like research and development and thinking in the long term. Even if they are interested in RnD, the information most probably be fake so they give up.
Maybe Xi and CCP thought that building aircraft is as easy as drawing it on paper.
This is the whole problem with China, rapid growth in 2 decades, but without the supporting experience.
You see Chinese brand electric cars and motorbike catching fire. Why would you choose a Chinese airline?
Not enough oxygen to catch fire - so it is safe.
@@pod11th31😂 good one!
Not much of a choice, their "glorious" government decides and so it is done.
That will remain until even the layer of officers/police revolt against it.
TVs, microwaves, heating pad/hand warmers, even light bulbs all smoke and/or catch fire (regularly). I am sure I am missing some items. Those are just the ones I've had experience with.
You don't see US made electric bikes exploding do you!.....ahhhh, but that is because the US don't make any, they outsourced all their manufacturing years ago......
Making something that looks like a plane is easy. But making a functional plane takes effort.
That's easy for China, all they have to do is steal a good aircraft blueprint to fix their issue like they did with their military aircraft by stealing a certain US military aircraft blueprint.
Indeed. China's Homegrown C919 Airliner Faces Serious Setbacks, Prompting Concerns Over Flight Safety and Technology Mastery.
Indeed, Boeing can tell you how the 737 fiasco killed hundreds of innocent people.
Just teething trouble. Wait and watch
Whatever technology they have was stolen from others
Just a guess, but I suspect this is exactly why all of the alleged Chinese space flights are only shown in animation.
They arent shown in animation
Let's compare timelines:
Boeing 747 from conception (1966) to first flight in 3 years (1969), in service 1 year later (1970) with 96 gigantic aircraft delivered by the end of 1970. First example still airworthy. Less than 5 years, nearly 100 of the largest airliner ever conceived delivered and in service - in 1970.
Comac C919 project inception 2008, first flight 2017 (9 years), first delivery (one of the prototypes) in service 2023 (7 years after first flight). Engines and avionics systems imported. 15 years to get one aircraft into service.
Tell me again how, 50 years later, China and the C919 show Chinese superiority. Really, I'd like to know.
Compare that with the 787; program launch April 2004, type certificate issue 2011
I'm with you, and I wouldn't be caught "dead" or alive on that thing. There are only Boeing and Airbus, full stop.
@@skydive1424 a380 barely made its first flight deadline as well. A350 was at the Wire.
Because they said so, they are always right cause they are left.
@@skydive1424And when will the C919 get type certification from someplace besides China?
Shows how much you trust your plane when no high ranking officials were on board the test flight
There was no high speed train accident in Indonesia .... this channel is completely lying....
@@satriojumeneng7055Nobody cares about indonesia
That is the reason they are high ranking officials they aren't stupid😂
CCP party should fly on this plane 🇨🇳
@@satriojumeneng7055lol! This is different topic! China master high speed train, but not aviation, you're completely stupid Hahaha 🤣
I was totally unsurprised that the Chinese leaders/officials were happy to take photos on the plane but none were crazy enough to actually fly on it. Great way LEAD.
They're busy running the country, idiot they don't have time to take joyrides for no reason.
Only look good from afar
Just because you steal the plans, does not mean you can correctly manufacture what you've stolen.
Oh boy, some comments like this one are the best! 😁👍
Western companies have stolen plans all their lives. It is a commercial lifestyle for centuries. Don't cry so much.
Ditto for their J-20 Stealth Airplanes as well
FYI, the Indian air force says that they can easily detect and track the Chinese J-20 even with the OLD radars from their MIG fighter crafts.
And that old Russian radars are at least 2 generations older than what the USA has in use now.
Just like high-speed trains . electric vehicle and DJI drones
No man, they didn’t steal nothing.
They just made a photocopy of the plane 😂
Many people don't know C919 stands for "Cancelled for 919th time."
Hilarious you made me laugh my head off 😂👍
Very good
C19=cornoviris2019
@@RoofRoof-lo4sl Awesome!! Thanks for revealing this clue to the world! 🤝💯🔥☺☺
This is what happens when you steal technology and not develop it. You do not fully understand how the components work and how they work with others
Agree ...
Spot on. Worse yet, some of the shortcomings all but guarantee hidden issues, not yet anticipated or identified, which will eventually emerge in-flight with potentially dire consequences...
Cheap 3rd world countries will buy these up and the disasters will come 10 fold. 🇨🇳
This is what happens when western media lie a lot.
Chyna never develop anything that made modern world as it is today, all steal , manipulation, fake , subs to gain monopol on stuff. Then they play like they are something. Ungreteful communist people..
The president of China flies on an Boeing plane, not a c19. That says a lot.
The C919 is NOT made for President Xi. The C919 serves a different purpose. The Boeing 747 is a very large plane used throughout the world as a presidential plane. The 747 is an established plane. That is what your example says. Also, you and everyone knows that the C919 is China's first attempt at creating a plane. It takes time and development. If you're saying China is behind the U.S., then you're correct. .... Your statement is similar to a statement made by Elon Mush for BYD EV cars. Of course, the initial BYD EV car was "a joke." Elon Musk of Tesla is not laughing now about Chinese EVs.
Mastering is different than reverse-engineering.
There was no high speed train accident in Indonesia .... this channel is completely lying....
@@satriojumeneng7055don't compare trains to airline development. They're worlds apart.. 😆
@@satriojumeneng7055 CCP bot 🇨🇳
@@teachmehowtodoge1737 You're replying to a 'bot...
China reverse-engineered capitalism under a communist regime and turned out to be better than the original. A great success and a gift to the world. HOORAY!!
The C919 is gonna be a turd, but it is expected to have some teething problems launching a new aircraft model, regardless if it’s a copy of an existing model. There’s a learning curve for every dept involved in the the operation and mx, even w/ training. The scary part is, they are trying to copy components w/ out understanding the whole unit, down to the materials and process used to produce it.
Boeing had a whole slew of problems launching the 787. The A220 has had many operational difficulties also. It just the nature of the beast. Problem is, this is China, and they don’t want to even slow down to understand how it works, or teach the people involved in systems and operations.
China’s gonna China.
😂
Agree. Teething problems are to be expected.
What should be tracked is how the management handles and solves the problem.
Management is the keystone of complex projects like aircraft.
@@ricardokowalski1579 Teething problems are normally to be expected, but are NOT acceptable in a country with a totalitarian regime. This is seen as an outright failure and therefore an embarrassment to China, that boast how technologically advanced their country has become.
Don't forget that this isn't a single or exceptional problem for Chinese products: their famed "top battery technology" EV's severely suffer from self-igniting battery-packs, buildings in China start falling apart not even a year after having been built and now the pride of China's airplane manufacturing malfunctions within a month after its first official flight. It shows a clear pattern that China's boasts about their technology are just that: boasts, that are being overtaken by reality.
@@tjroelsma like I said. Watch how management handles the problem
If they make it political, then the project is truly doomed
@@ricardokowalski1579 Everything in China is political.
If Winnie won’t fly on it then why should anyone else?
Xi want to test the airplane with people in it
yeah... they should make a Presidential version of the C919... walk the talk pooh
This video gave me new respect for the unsung engineers who made it look easy to make modern aircraft more safe than they already are. China can't pull off what Boeing easily did in the 60s. Arrogant bastards wanting to steal their way to the top!
“Easily did in the 60s”? Let me tell you something. Boeing aircraft have been involved in nearly 6,000 aviation accidents and incidents worldwide. Of those 415 were fatal accidents, resulting in over 9,000 deaths. It’s okay to dislike China. But don’t be stupid.
Be respectful.. even cheating to the top is an art
Did you see how that plane was shaking during the test flight...... No thank you, I'll pass
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It's no different than a Chinese made cars. The people must be used to it.😊
If you mean the clip at 8:22 it's no different to any western fighter jet when it's pushed to accelerated stall like the plane in the video...
@@smokeonthewater5287 Please
That was the camera man shaking in his excitement of being given permission to film such a WONDERESS machine...😁
China calling the C919 their own is like a guy who builds a PC chassis by himself and buys all the internal components at Microcenter, puts it all together, installs Windows, and tells everyone that he built a computer all by himself.
No way in hell would I get on that plane even if they paid me for a short flight.
Not even for 10 thousand yuan? 😂
What about for an instant +50 social credit points to just sit inside, grounded to make a video pretending you're flying. And you talk about how great your flight experience was?
@@jamstagerableI'll do it for social media likes..lol
They already got a bunch of paid shills to do that. Problem is that those shills will not be stepping foot inside that plane either. They may be stupid morons, but not stupid enough to get a death wish.
@AngelaMatshoge-re7or literally. Except to the afterlife
If donkey xi has balls as large and with as much brass as OceanGate's CEO - Stockton Rush, he would have insisted that he'd be on the very first test flight with the test pilot!!! 👍👍
this is what happens when you don't photocopy the otherside of the plan sheet.
Probably the plans they stole were also counterfeit.
Manufacturers have gotten smart and have created design documents with marking/elements designed to fail should they be stolen. Imagine the surprise when the thief realize the stolen design documents have intended flaws through out.
That's funny
Happened to the TU 144. Once the Concorde people found the leak, they sifted bad information through it. Russia beat Concorde into the air, but crashed the #2 prototype at the 1973 Paris air show. Russia knew it needed changes but couldn't resist showing it off. Oops. Anyway, the C919 in service is essentially a hand built prototype. i wouldn't fly on it.
And this theft is happening daily in the US in it's colleges and universities by international "students".
I don't think they would ever understand what they are lacking
a brain
@@y.cschmidlin8172 I'm sorry but that's Offensive to every brainless moron out there
just Like high-speed trains and electric vehicle😁
Soul
having being a passenger on Chinese airlines the experiences were not the best and based on the notion of planes being manufactured in China itself would deter me from choosing any of them. The numbers C919 would be a huge red flag. I suggest having members of the CCP or CEO of manufacturers to be the 'test passengers' and lets see how that goes.
Passenger on a Chinese airline. Lucky to be alive
Yes, I have been on a few myself. No more.
Meanwhile South China Morning post doesn't mention this failure!!
Hahahhahahha, good one.
This is most likely an engine-related problem. In flight compressed air is brought into the cabin through an air filtration system to keep pressure at an altitude of about 5,000 to 7,000 Feet ASL. (It depends a bit on the altitude at takeoff and landing.) China has a limited amount of experience in building high-performance aircraft engines. In fact, much of the aerospace technology in use has been "stolen" from foreign countries. (If you take offense at the word stolen, stop reading now, you'll miss the point.) Almost all modern aircraft engines are built by just three companies, and most engines are leased and maintained by those companies. China has not been able to obtain enough knowledge of these engines to copy them. If you are skeptical, ask yourself why Chinese aircraft, rockets, missiles, and other aerospace technology look so much like Western versions which clearly existed first.
Stolen Western technology, CCP all over this form trying to deflect facts 🇨🇳
But dirty China claims that they are 3000 years ahead of the West.
It's common to have these types of defects during operation ....nothing alarming
@RB9522
Said that Chinese aerospace technology is stolen from western countries.
A. That's very correct, but from whom did the US steal their aerospace engineers from after WW2, didn't they confiscate all German patents and siphoned all German space engineers?!!!
B. The Boeing lumber Co was transitioned from wood business to aerospace by their FIRST Chinese engineer.
C. Western Companies are not engaged in intellectual thefts , only the Chinese do!
please go check your eye or mental sanity!!!!
China and Russia will never have the quality of western made complex machines due to corruption and corner cutting. If America isn't careful we can end up like them due to corruption.
It's hard to say whether this was a minor problem, or a major one. It could have been a simple low-tech issue, like a stuck interior pressure gauge, or a stuck air outflow valve, or pilot error, to even a major problem with the air packs, ducts, or cabin sealing. One cannot draw any conclusions as to the true reliability of this aircraft from one such incident.
That said, a 100 hour test is ridiculous. FAA certification takes 5 to 9 years!!! The FAA certification rules are 481 pages long!
China loves short cuts.
How'd that work out for the max?
@@myne00 the fact that air Max still have problem afterward is more damning for c919 passenger
The problem is they shouldn't have any problems😂
They are saying they are ready to sell this plane and put Humans in it😅
As a flight attendant, I’ve taken thousands of flights….There are only a few airlines that I (and most US pilots) would 😂never fly on. All US and EU airlines have the most stringent safety standards & are regularly grounded due to non-critical system failures (failures that wouldn’t cause grounding in most other countries)….
A good rule of thumb : If the country is wealthy, and “first-world” (like Japan, Singapore and S. Korea), their State airlines will be very good -and very safe….The rest of Asia? I wouldn’t fly any of their airlines if I were paid….
Oh so no Garuda? Air Koyo? Air Astana? Don't want to live life on the edge? If you are unsure about the airline, just consult your Magic 8 Ball first. 😅
Korean Air used to be one of the most dangerous airlines in early 2000s bc of the power distance and poor CRM due to the strict hierachy of Korean culture (KA cargo 8509 exposed it to the world). Korean Air improved a lot since but it doesn’t guerantee other Korean airlines will be safe as well
I wonder how bad the safety record and standards are for Emirates, Qatar Airways, Turkish Airlines, Etihad, and Air India to name a few Asian airlines not from Japan, Singapore, or Korea. If these are allowed to fly to the US or EU, then either the US/EU have pathetic standards or you just don't like certain people.
@@aaaaaaaard9586 Agreed (which is why I specified “State” Airlines)….
@@aaaaaaaard9586
You mean like the great, glorious, people's Air Koyo? 😅
I rather prefer to go to see the Titanic in a submarine then fly in that plane!
L😂L
There was no high speed train accident in Indonesia .... this channel is completely lying....
I think I will book a trip on that submarine as well.. I think the chances will be better😂😂😂
@@satriojumeneng7055Nobody is worried about indonesia😅
@@satriojumeneng7055I see you don't understand how youtube works😉
The engines and APU don't put "Oxygen" in the cabin, they pressurize the cabin with ambient air. The same air you breathe at sea level. This raises the partial pressure of the O2 in the air so that the lungs can absorb it. Airplanes do not carry oxygen, except for chemical O2 generators for the drop-down masks, and emergency oxygen for the pilots.
Its probably a translation mistake.
The bleed air goes into aircycle machines that pressurize and air condition the airplane
They increase the Oxygen concentration by increasing air pressure. The percentage of total Oxygen remains the same, at 21%, but it increases how much is available to breathe by increasing all the gases at the same time.
She could have worded or translated it better, but she isn't entirely wrong.
@@redbaron6805 Actually that's not technically true. The only thing that matters is the partial pressure of the O2, not the concentration. Although that is true to a certain extent when you use 100% supplemental O2. That's why we have pressure breathing O2 masks for the very high altitudes. Even at 100% O2, it doesn't matter if you don't also have the higher pressure.
@@redbaron6805 WRONG, O2 percentage drops significantly at higher altitudes. At 30,000 feet it's only a little over 6%.
RIP to the passengers and crew that will soon die testing this plane.
There was no high speed train accident in Indonesia .... this channel is completely lying....
No country will give landing rights to any airline flying this plane knowing it has issues with airworthiness. Even North Korea will refuse.
Thank goodness C919 is superior to the Boeing 737 Max
@@ronnelacido1711
Airworthiness. Guess which country was the first to ground Boeing 737 Max after two fatal crashes.
I know your answer. You will says USA but it is WRONG.
🤣🤣🤣
@@mythbusterthe6749 are you kidding me this is Chinese made this is a disaster waiting to happen 🇨🇳
Yeah. That’s what happens when you use tech that you didn’t develop or license, but stole. Well that’s what we think, given the pattern. If theft can actually be proven, they should be banned from US airspace.
All western airspace
Despite actual design assistance from Boeing, CFM, Safran, etc., the C919 has been a colossal failure from start to finish. China can't reverse engineer a Boeing or Airbus aircraft because China doesn't have an actual clue about R&D, build, and production requirements of airworthy airframes.
China has no clue about aircraft or civil engineering.
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Don't underestimate the power of the force.
Dirty China does not do any R&D, they steal the West's technology and inventions. Communism kills creativity and imagination.
@@saltapozo 🤣😅😂
Imagine, within 3 years India will have a far better engine than China because of the new agreement for GE to share 414 technology.
China continues to be kneecapped by its belligerent foreign policy which makes all Western nations reject any basic and advanced technology sharing with China. The EV car problems described in this video are the obvious result of lack of robotics and automation during manufacture.
Additionally, there are similarities between China's problems manufacturing fanjet engines and semiconductors. Both require strong R&D and knowledge of numerous technologies combined to produce highly complex things. When China claims some breakthrough, usually the rest of the world shrugs because not one but likely hundreds of such breakthroughs would be required for China to advance a single step. Also, today civilian aviation safety record is built on the lives of thousands of passengers who have died over the past 100 years. By not participating and complying with modern commercial aviation operations, China is reinventing the wheel and may have to experience its own similar death toll to achieve similar levels of operational safety while the rest of the world continues to advance even further. China will always be in catch up mode unless it can make a deal similar to what India just got from the United States.
It's not surprising to hear the C-919 may be paused and suspend operations from time to time.
Perhaps more surprising is if China thinks that it's going to make fast progress with the WS-15 for the J-20 by sacrificing a large number of lives. China is very, very far behind in military fanjet engine technology, at minimum about 15 years just on performance alone. But that doesn't even touch the possible issues of reliability, lexpected lifetime before replacement or major maintenance, or even regular maintenance. The US for example is already using 2nd generation single crystal turbine blades while China hasn't even implemented advanced materials for fan blades at all.
China is probably dreaming when it comes to being ready to be ready to reunify Taiwan by force by 2027. By the end of the first week of operations, the vast majority of Chinese military fighter aircraft will be grounded due to maintenance issues and any surviving Taiwanese F-16 will be ruling the skies even if the F-16 technology and versions are 30 years old (which might be replaced by latest versions starting in 2024).
And, fanjet engine technology may affect more than civilian and military aircraft. It's also likely that technologies translate to gas turbine powered ships as well. Even China's rather deep experience with electric propulsion is dependent on how electricity is generated. So far, it seems that China's nuclear power plant technology is ineadequate or it would have been installed in the Type 003 Fudian aircraft carrier. Unless you want to consider mid-20th century steam turbines and burning low grade bilge oil, the main option is a gas turbine engine using technology similar to the WS-15 whcih China apparently doesn't do well yet.
Thanks for your in-depth thought
Worst then the Chinese are Indian made anything
Care to elaborate on the statement "China continues to be kneecapped by its belligerent foreign policy". All I see is an economic war triggered by the US in order to attempt to keep their perceived economic leadership and military leadership. It's a common theme in US foreign policy to extort, bully and threaten countries that are perceived as a threat to their dominance.
The reason that USA is sharing jet engine technology with India is just to stop China’s growing, nothing more than that. Whether the US hegemony is under attack following rules is good for nothing.
Chinese made car. No way. Chinese made Aircraft? Never!!
How would you like being a Chinese submariner?
Uhm Airbus has production line in China.. lol
@@winterflakes101 Yikes!! And so does Ford Mustang manual transmissions which are exploding BTY.
@@oz6123 Indonesian pilots. Same as Chinese pilots. Bang Ding Ow and We Tu Lo were the pilots. There is your problem and still is. Suit yourself.
Chinese-made EV cars = self-combusting
Chinese-made passenger plane = self-disassembling
Whatever happened to the Boeing 737? Two crashes within 5 months killing everyone one on board? If I'm choosing between the two, I'm going C919
Have you been on the moon
Tell me how it is if you’re still alive if it lands
The technology theft is malfunction.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tofu buildings, bridges, roads, now aeroplanes! 😂
Seems like the parts they couldnt steal the blueprints from Boeing Airbus grounded the airplane.
There was a rogue Chinese spy arrested by FBI recently
This could be the most expensive PR campaign in recent history.
Imagine all those investment for the few hours of publicity,
coming to an embarrassing flop which ends up as an international laughing stock. All these.... just to satisfy one man's overblown ego.
I heard that the lead engineer of this aircraft only added 3 rangefinders instead of the industry standard of 5
I read that somewhere too.
What's that? Rangefinder
@@___Anakin.Skywalker Passenger jets use laser Rangefinders to calculate the distance between the plane and the ground or bodies of water, they are essential tools for navigation and landing the aircraft
@@___Anakin.Skywalker rangefinders are precision measuring equipment to keep the aircraft’s accurate altitude, distance to a surface, orientation (banking, straight,etc.), and most importantly help with collision avoidance.
There was no high speed train accident in Indonesia .... this channel is completely lying....
I remember a couple of years ago the Chinese bragging about their aircraft, saw a video of it and the vertical stabilizer was shaking back and forth on an empty aircraft. It's just like their aircraft carriers. Future artificial reefs.
You couldn't pay me to fly in one of their planes not even if i was offered a couple million.
@JackSmith-mk1ru 🤣
When one of the lead designers is proudly stating that Aircraft have too many redundant safety systems and by removing a few you can save a lot of money. You should know to never to step foot in that Aircraft.
Would never fly in one.
Personally, I think the main problem with the C 919 is rushing. Large aircraft are complicated systems and require extensive testing. It's clear that this testing has not been done.
I actually think a new player in aircraft manufacture would be a good thing because competition will improve the breed.
Sadly, it seems China is good at building pretty things but is lacking in basic quality.
You will believe tofu dregs can fly. Well, for around a month. :D
gotta give an applause to the brave man and woman that dare to pilot and board a plane that is made in china...
I'm sure they are all issued parachutes upon departure.
It lasted as long as my old Chinese Xiaomi Scooter on sale at the local auto store for $299😂😂😂
Giving full meaning to the term "white knuckle flying".
They realized that a solar-powered passenger plane was not a good idea after all. Back to the drawing board.
In China just invite top CCP leaders to fly free. All these anticipated problems will disappear along with any tofu contractors and sub contractors and parts suppliers.
Imagine how the Chinese new super fighters and super aircraft carriers will terrify the USA and Europe.
Just can imagine; because they have never been in a war yet!
They have a better chance of using balloons
Cannot believe slaging off china
737 max has a great record 😂
Usually a lot of test is done on aircraft before validation. I presume, they did not do it . China king of shortcut in process !!!
They want quick profit....waiting for too many years will make then lose advantage (cheaper price), competitor will get better technology...
the next step is to issue parachutes for all on board the C919, just in case anything should go wrong........
You’re assuming Chinese parachutes work when needed.
Happens when the plagiarise all the time minus the latest details
At least the 737 MAX made it about a year and a half before it had problems. Unfortunately, it was allowed to continue flying and two crashed. Kudos to China for pulling their aircraft.
This announcer must be caught and sent to education camp along with her family she spreads lies! Get her and punish her Mr Chairman.
It is crucial to compare the safety records of new aircraft models from each airline manufacturer to make a fair comparison. Currently, the Boeing 737 Max has a terrible safety record with two fatal crashes resulting in the loss of all passengers and crew onboard. On the other hand, the flight safety records of Comac C919 and Airbus A320 are still clear.
People willing to fly on the C919 should have an extremely large life insurance policy. Tofu Airlines, coming soon, to a crash site near you.
The c919 is most made up of reverse engineered tech stolen by china. It's no wonder it is experiencing so many issues. Reverse engineering something as complex as aircraft tech is really hard, because while you have can get a general idea of how things work really fast, getting all the details right on something with so many specialized materials and tiny tolerances is really hard.
It's ok, no problem at all. The aircrafts need warming up... the more you fly the planes, the better they become !!! 😂
as expected from
Made in China
Made in PRC
Auto and aviation industries function as subsidized military hardware manufacturers. Nations without an auto industry lack the essential manufacturing base to maintain their own military hardware. The same is true of airline industries. If the Pentagon needed railcars, the USA would have the best passenger rail system in the world
The United States has been able to deceive the world many times, but it has never managed to stop China from its inevitable development.
I would rather walk than boarding a C919. I just want to live.
Just wait for C999 Panda Super Jumbo. It will be bigger than the A380 😮
I'll take that bet...
I’m not surprised XI Jinpin refused to ride in the plane on its commission. Everything about China from food to everything is a mirage.
Ask for assistance from the Russian commercial industry, I'm sure that both countries use the ISO standards
"Passengers, the inflight menu features your choice of gutter oil stir-fried vegetables with crispy ruck, or stinky tofu dreg dumplings with mung bean sprouts in Sulphur dioxide sauce."
It's quite normal to have teething problems, a380 had some serious engine problems and the 737max....
Not a fan of the ccp but hats off the comac team, you made a plane.
That's like saying I made a car! But I don't own any of it.
Yes, they can place the one plane made in aviation museum.
A total of 108 COMAC ARJ21 (advanced regional jet) have been delivered since 2015. Up till March 618, 2023, ARJ21 has been flown for more than 200000 hours, accumulating more than 110000 take-offs and landings and carrying more than 6.25 million travelers to their destinations. A total of 329 flights have been established between 119 cities in China, and no fatal accidents have been reported for the airplane. For COMAC C919, I suggest that everybody needs to be patient to wait for the airplane to fly for some years before the final verdict is given.
I susjest you move back to China
Ah so! Is there only one commissioned 919 then? No spare from Team 919? Outstanding!
Who wants to fly in these planes from a country that is infamous for shortcuts in manufacturing and safety.
It would be very interesting to watch how the PLA's jet fighters invade Taiwan: may be they would just drop from the sky like a rock from engine failure!
Would be hilarious to see!
Why is it wrong for China to build their own planes. Can't China dream of building their own plane? It seems that the western countries esp. the US is afraid of China's success.
Schedule all evening flights as they're obviously a "fly by night" operation
3:05 🤣🤣🤣 The interior shot of a railroad passenger car!
"…a stark contrast to its journey earlier in the day, which reached over 10,000 metres."
They're not stealing plans as well as they had been.
Lol. The emperor is scared of its own home grown plane loo
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With every seat booking you get a free parachute
Uhh, it's great that we here in the USA make passenger planes that work correctly from day one, and they never crash once they enter service, and their batteries never ever catch on fire in flight. USA!
Xi Jinping: No thanks, I’d rather bike.
Dropping from 10,000meters down to 7,000meters may not seem like much, until you talk to a mountaineer. They call 8,000+ meters the "Death Zone" because that is the point that air pressure is to low for your body to get enough oxygen to replace what it's using. So, sounds like a pressurization problem to me.
Rumor has it. That China doesn’t use Crash Test Dummies. Not real enough 😮😮😮
>needs to use ai
or perhaps do some R&D.
except everyone knows china doesn't do R&D when ip theft is so much fun.
They just need to add some 5g, that fixes every problem in China
As if new Boeing or Airbus never experienced issues before. The good thing is the C919 systems detected issues & be rectified.
There are other reasons for pressuration faults, problems with the outflow valve and most catastrophic would be a cracked pressure bulkhead, possible but pretty unlikely. Avoid the aircraft at all costs.
No it is it is put together in China, they cant build cars roads or bridges,they keep trying but all they do is turn out CRAP
Doesn't even have to be cracked, just improperly and incompletely sealed. Leaky.
Couple of years ago when I first saw Chinese-made or Korean-made vehicles I thought I would never want to be seen in one of them. Today these same brands are very much in the league with decades-old western and Japanese brands. Give the Chinese time, you will see what they can achieve. No doubt about... Building excellent flying machines is no small matter. Even established western manufacturers do flounder...
Maybe, vuy they'll have to work hard to get there. Previously they were just handed everything on a plate or they stole it. Now everyone has a wary eye on China. They cannot get with the things they used to get away with.
And the US is clamping down surely but slowly on them.
RIP to C919 ✞
Japanese technology: We guarantee reliability, Chinese technology: We guarantee failiure.
⚠ China's homegrown C919 airliner experienced a halt to operations due to issues with the bleed air system, causing a decrease in altitude and potential oxygen deprivation.
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The C919 airliner had to be grounded and replaced by an Airbus A320 due to issues with the bleed air system.
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The C919 returned to service after resolving the bleed air system issues.
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Aviation enthusiasts speculated that a serious malfunction occurred during a flight, resulting in a sudden drop in altitude.
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Insufficient bleed air and oxygen can lead to discomfort and potential health risks for passengers.
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The C919 may have experienced bleed air system failures in both engines, requiring reliance on the APU bleed air system.
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🛫 The development of China's C919 aircraft is facing multiple challenges and delays, raising concerns about flight safety and China's ability to master the necessary technology.
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China Eastern Airlines received its first C919 aircraft in December 2020 and initiated a 100-hour flight validation.
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The validation flight aimed to simulate the entire flight procedure and prepare for commercial passenger flights.
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The C919 experienced failures in its reverse thrust system and engine's bleed air system, leading to delays and grounding.
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The repeated failures raise questions about the Chinese government's promotion of homegrown aircraft and the potential safety risks.
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The development of domestic large aircraft serves not only civil aviation needs but also military technology advancement, particularly in engine technology.
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😮 China's development of the C919 aircraft and domestically-produced engine has led to sacrifices and challenges in the pursuit of advancing their military capabilities.
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The development of the C919 aircraft was not solely an aviation plan but rather a military one, aiming to gather data for the development of China's domestically-produced J-20 jet engine.
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Several pilots have lost their lives following the J-20's transition to the domestically-produced WS-15 engine, allegedly suppressed by orders from President Xi Jinping.
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President Xi Jinping's sentiment implies that potential air disasters would be seen as sacrifices for the country's advancement.
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China faces challenges in producing reliable engine casings and lacks the capability and knowledge to comprehend and master the composition of materials used by engine manufacturers like GE.
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China's pursuit of fully independently manufacturing the engine for the C919 is an uphill battle due to limited global suppliers and dominance of major engine companies.
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🛫 China faces challenges in fully manufacturing engines due to limited access to GPU computing power, cultural and systemic challenges, and flight safety risks.
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The United States has consistently limited China's access to GPU computing power, obstructing its progress in engine manufacturing.
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China faces cultural challenges such as a societal atmosphere leaning towards taking shortcuts and a state structure that may suppress independent thinking and innovation.
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Many key aerospace technologies are held by foreign companies who are unlikely to share them with China.
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China's heavy reliance on foreign parts for its C919 aircraft poses flight safety risks.
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The grounding of the C919 has sparked reflection and concerns over potential disruptions in the aviation industry and political problems.
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🛫 The grounding of the C919 aircraft exposes China's deficiencies in aircraft manufacturing technology and its capability for independent innovation, which could be further exacerbated by potential western sanctions.
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Establishment of final assembly lines by Airbus and Boeing in China was believed to have provided valuable experience and technology.
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The grounding of the C919 reveals China's shortcomings in aircraft manufacturing technology and independent innovation.
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Western sanctions could make sourcing necessary parts challenging, potentially leading to flight cancellations and service disruptions.
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Additional sanctions by the U.S. could restrict the supply of key components for the C919, causing a major setback for China.
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China faces challenges in integrating diverse components and electronic control systems in the C919, compared to the expertise of the West.
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At least, they prefer safety over money.
Not like the OceanGate subs.
Not like the Boeing who crash two times and killed all its passengers.
I'm sure some day China will one day have a craftsmanship nature, but it will require the bleeding of inefficient companies in a recession, which usually happens every 5 years or so in a democracy. China hasn't suffered one of those.
Western democracies have been artificially surpressing recessions, which are necessary for healthy capitalism by elliminating worthless businesses for a long time, when it comes it won't be a recession now, it'll be complete market collapse.
Interesting observation
Maybe some have occured, maybe they haven't, but you can read on your own for that. Gdp for the prc is a complicated topic.
All Stolen stuff.
When did the chinese created a good product? When?
China is always saying tdhat their fighter jets are great but why no country is buying it??? Simple. QUALITY ISSUE.
Nobody will invest in a flying coffin.
So many stories of Impossible goals set with harsh penalties . Results are Inevitably tragic. "Any " group in any place whose actions are Ego Driven , Bring shame & dishonor on themselves.
They obviously stole the plans from Boeing.😂😂😂