KODAK TRI-X FROM 1977... STAND DEVELOPED. WILL IT WORK? I'M EXCITED TO SEE!
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2023
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EQUIPMENT USED IN THIS VIDEO
CAMERA - Yashica Mat 124 G
LENS -
FILM - KODAK TRI-X 400 (1977)
DEVELOPER - RODINAL
ENLARGER - DURST M605
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NEEWER LED PANELS, GVM COLOUR PANELS, Valoi 360 Film Holder System for scanes, Zeapon Micro 2 Motor Slider, Colbor 100X Light,
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Blimey !! SO THIN NEGS !! You should have given it much more exposure. I have used the Kodak DK50 formula diluted 1+1 for outdated films that age .Also I did not see you add any 'Hypo Crystals' to the Pot Ferri to make the Farmers' reducer Bleach -- it needs the Hypo to work .
Damn Pete. You're right! I haven't mixed my own for donkeys! (no pun)
Oh you have a donkey sanctuary...I am sold
In 1977 I was 9 years old and I was starting to work in the darkroom, with my best friend, my dad taught me how to do it. He gave me one of his old cameras, it was a little one all manual of course, from the early sixties I think. We shot pictures like crazy, he used to buy us bulk film, Triax and Plus-x and we kept it in the refrigerator in the basement, Funtimes!
Ah those darkroom smells. I’m weird but that’s one of the things I’m most fond of from working with film. Still have film cameras and I do want to process some again.
I was surprised how well defined the kodak safety film edge lettering was. That was exposed on the film at time of manufacture but was still quite well defined. I guess the film was made 4 years or so before the develop by date.. so it will have lived through the steamy summer of '76. Those were the days. Arhhh. 😊
Yep, I also shot one TX from the 70's yesterday. 3 stops over, grainy and still thin and foggy, but I got some image.
I didn't realize Kodak film was also made in England at that time. Interesting experiment with old film.
This paper may be very interesting to try a lith prints.
At least it all still renders images. That’s encouraging to me as I have quite a bit of old, old film. Of course I’m certainly not expecting stellar results, pretty much any old image will do.. Keep showing us your film adventures sir!
Nice American TV classic Shows ❤
What a wife! I saw her holding the other camera while you were holding the digital ( I think). These are great women! Tell her you love her for me! She's amazing!
And she's your videographer! Nice
Thats my Daughter. LOL
Awesome opening
Nice video and nice shots, I love donkeys. BTW I think that stand development increases the fog typical of expired films. I prefer Kodak HC-110 Dil. A (1+15) that reduces the fog and is even very forgiving. Pay attention to the Kodak 2483, it's a color reversal microfilm to store in small space huge colour documentation and magazines, that must be developed in E4 and can not support the high temperature of C-41 or E6. Some time ago, for carelessness, I sent to the lab an obsolete version of Ektachrome that should be developed in the no more available E4 process and was processed in E6; it came out completely transparent. Greetings from Rome, Italy
Hard, very hard agitation (first for 30 seconds and 10 secs per min) eliminates fog and bromide drag in every more than 20 years expired film.
Thanks Marco.
Thanks to you Roger, I've just shot and developed a roll of HP5 from my Yashicamat 124G for the first time in over 20 years! (Cheers from Newport).
Nice one! Hop they came out nice.
Thanks for this, I actually have about 20 rolls of this with unknown storage conditions.
Honestly have boxes of this stuff from 1986, works great just ran a test roll in the Hasselblad at box speed all the way down to 10ASA. Find the sweet spot
That paper looks awesome for pinhole photography, at least is already preflash 😂. Cheers mate 👍
Brilliant idea!
Wow you put some effort in to this one with the 70’s bits!! Brought it all back, nearly got me flares out!😂
Good work with the old 70’s film to get something out of it was great!
Bet you enjoyed some cake in the cafe too!!
We didn't go in the cafe. Flares LOL!
You might be able to increase the contrast of the negatives by using selenium toner (1/2 stop of contrast) or if you really want to experiment you can tone them in sepia toner to increase contrast by a full stop.
Kodak named paper in a fairly logical manner: WSG 2D stands for White Smooth Gloss Double Weight. They did other base textures at the time including the usual matt, silk etc, but they also did other paper 'colour' including ivory. When I worked in a photographic shop in the mid 1970's we had a 'sample book' of all the papers that Kodak did at the time. I wish I had acquired it when the shop closed. To help reduce the base fog of the paper make up a 10% solution of Potassium Bromide (Johnson of Hendon 236 if you ever find it for interest) and try adding small quantities say, 3% of your total dev volume, and increasing until fog is reduced or there is no effect.
I did say it was heavy paper. Now I know what WSG is. Cheers.
I have developed some old films from the 60's and they were "clock springs" so I got a Kodacraft roll film tank that uses a ribbon instead of the spiral, I found it much easier to load, still got the same foggy results as you but a bit less swearing while loading. Not sure but would stand developing in 510 pyro give less fog. Loving the video's as always.
I'm not sure Ian. I've got a little Pyro left and lots of Rodinal lol
I recall that Canadian photographer Azriel Knight said that film processed in Kodak HC-110 doesn't have as much of a film fog problem than other film developers. (Kodak Anti Fog Tablets have been as unavailable as Kodachrome for years.;)
I have an old changing box from a lab... heavy duty....but it works! Love your test strip doohickey. Been looking for one but apparently they are not manufactured any longer. Oh well, just another darkroom toy that isn't necessary but handy. Prints didn't turn out too bad for such old film.
Contact Tim at bitbybit photo on instagram. He makes them
Yes, it's 120mm, I think instead of wasting money in getting it processed, I'll just buy another roll and start over. Seems like everything that can go wrong is going wrong! As for being lucky, I think I have to be the most un-lucky person in the world! Thanks for the info none the less. Cheers!
I think that overexposed negatives could print well with this old paper.
I’ve done this and yes, it works well.
Yes good point!
This is iconic ..the passage of rite ..or rite of passage ...in shooting this folm
Great video. It's impressive that the outcome are negatives / prints which are at least usable for tests. I expected the results to be much much worse.
I think more exposure would have helped. Next roll!
Ahh, the '70s those were the golden years! It went bye so fast I almost didn't recognize you! BTW I like your Chopper, was that a 2-stroke? Puns aside, thanks for showing us what film that's been fogged looks like. I've shot me first roll of film (haven't sent it off for developing yet) and I'm afraid I have fogged it trying to get it into some old cameras that weren't really meant for it. If the film gets loosened and fogged, does it affect just the images at then or does it affect the whole roll? Keep up the great work! Cheers
You mean a 120 film? If the roll was loose when you started to load there is a chance you'll have leaking graduating from the edges. Best way just get it developed. You may be lucky!
Have you tried using a restrainer solution? That can remove the fog from the paper.
I have not. Never tried. Thanks.
I personally find it easier to load really curly film into stainless reels rather than plastic ones.
I did mention that but it didn't make the cut. I've never tried steel reels but I know many say they are easier.
A few of these like 11:49 were actually really nice! Gives me some hope that 1985 expired Tri-X will yield me some printable results. What ISO did you shoot at?
I know I mentioned this before but it's truly a relief that I'm not the only one fascinated by the packaging and the backing paper. I have way too much of both saved up for no other reason than I like it.
I shot at 200 Dane. Yes I find old packaging fascinating. Just the basic fonts and design back then.
Quick question: what’s the song played at the beginning of the video? Pretty groovy! 0:08
Leave it out geezer I was born in 70 and I feel knackered....how does that film feel dya reckon?😊😊
LOL. Like our knees Andy!
If you need another roll or two let’s get in touch, I’ve got a lot of frozen film, used to shoot a lot pre pandemic but kind of lost the luster for me during. So I’ve got 4 massive ziplock bags full!
Thanks Matt. Thats very kind.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I used hc-110 and ran it at normal box times, but again I did shoot it at a much lower ASA of 25-50.
You could try the color film using room temp up to 80f degrees c41. You will get negatives, maybe only suitable for scanning. The emulsion won't survive the 35/100 degrees of conventional c41 or e6- it will likely slough right off. The verichrome should give better results. High speed film doesn't age well.
1975 ! That was the year of the drought ! No wonder the stuffs knackered!
In the UK the long, hot summer was 1976
@@mike747436 well I remember it ! Wasn't far off !
It was! I don't remember as I was only 3 but apparently I overheated! LOL
Thats right 76!
Ps, let's just hope that John doesn't want his hair back!
Nice results from 1977 400 film! Did you shoot at box speed? I love stand developing for expired film too.
No I shot it at 200, so 1 stop over exposed. I think it needed more!
Expiry date of 1977 means its even older, probably on the shelves 1975/76
1-2g per liter of ferricianide is enough ;)
You can also intensifies the negatives.
I was going to dump a neg in
Take it easy on the meme-ing
I was born in '77, and I'm definitely going a bit foggy.
LOL!!
如果黑白胶卷都是这种起雾的效果，毫无疑问，彩色胶片基本没有感光能力了，换句话说，你的彩色胶片就算是拍摄，正常冲洗，也只能得到一点灰灰的暗影，其实建议这些“珍贵”的彩色胶卷就不要打开了，保持原盒的状态，它将是一个不错的小“古董”，如果你尝试测试他们，那得将得到一堆垃圾而已，还要浪费大量的时间和冲洗的药液的钱；呵呵呵，建议而已🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very true!