Thanks PJ! For me, "kiting" for acrobats (or in general) is when players stay at a distance, using only ranged attacks (Twin Shot, Piercing Shot, Magic Arrow, Spirit Shot, Multi Shot, Marionette, etc), and running whenever the enemy comes near with the help of Chain Tumble/Trampoline and B. Float/Tip-Tops. The intention is to avoid any physical contact. You usually don't see any combos being done by the acrobat. A good example for this is in the video I linked in the description box (above).
Ah yes, a friend told me about that too. What he said is to use Willow Kick after the Furious Winds instead of Cyclone Kick :) And as for the Magic Shot, well, here's a quote, "while the only thing you can do after Magic Arrow flinching is Twin Shot knockdown and nothing else after that (or just nothing at all after flinching), which is really an SS thing."
Thank you! And about the Nostromo, the linked keyboard mapping is similar to my Nostromo key bindings. Here's a screenshot of my settings: goo[DOT]gl[SLASH]keTTw. Keys 1, 2, 3, 6 and 0 are bound to my Razer Naga which is why you don't see them in my Nostromo settings. The analog keys are bound to my macros.
whoa this looks so helpful omg *o* thanks for making these!! I have a problem comboing, partly cuz I tend to randomly use skills and also timing XD is there a good way to practice?
nice vid. it really helped me a lot on what other combos to use. i also want to comment on the "wall of shame" by kiting... eggsy difinitely kited there, but the reason behind is that it was against an SM with parry build.. if you have experience fighting SMs, they tend to parry your attack and cut your combos then they counter combo..also when you launch them in the air they have aerial counter. its a bad idea to rush for a combo given that acros are very fragile..
Hey thanks! As for SMs with Parry build, I've fought a couple of those SMs and never had a disadvantage since I abused my s and approached them from behind and from the sides. I guess the pressure of the competition forced Eggsy to play safe and kite which I understand but in my opinion, he didn't really have to do if he knew how to approach the SM.
Is your Nostromo on default binding? I have one and I altered the key binding. The linked key mapping only shows what it is like on a regular keyboard and not the nostromo so I was wondering about the nostromo key binding. Great video too
"... there is nothing wrong with kiting", that applies to people who are not against it, of course. But I do agree that it is a form of strategy, a cheap one if you ask me and is frowned upon for Acrobats. If one knows how to properly space out their skills and not spam all of it in a short period of time, they won't get into that situation where they have to back out and resort to kiting. I believe "zoning out" would be better.
Wow. I'm very inspired with the combos that you've made.. Uhm, just a question if you don't mind, what are your hotkeys?? Cause sometimes its hard for me to chain a combo.
It's easy! After using marionette, press right click :D You may have to spam right click just to make sure it will use Somersault Kick and then Double Somersault Kick.
just a question but how come magic shot is cheap? also great video by the way I started doing a different launching move between the furious wind + cyclone kick combo cause it seems doing cyclone on a grounded opponent makes the launching kick miss and will allow your opponent tumble out of the combo TT^TT
yea thanks LOL.. ive been playing acro for like 2 weeks.. its so cool to know that u can use Double somersault that way.. also what are the skills of Acro that have iFrames
Oh, it's cause they updated the skill simulator and it messed up the build. That build was for the T3. Now we have T4, it's different. I'll update it ASAP. Thanks for letting me know!
I apologize for the poorly performed combos. Out of the three videos, I believe this one has the most missed hits. I only had one chance to record these clips due to time constraint since I have better things to do but thanks for the criticism. By making more videos, I learn what to do and what not.
"Kiting" for acrobats (or in general) is when players stay at a distance, using only ranged attacks (Twin Shot, Piercing Shot, Magic Arrow, Spirit Shot, Multi Shot, Marionette, etc), and running whenever the enemy comes near with the help of Chain Tumble/Trampoline and B. Float/Tip-Tops. The intention is to avoid any physical contact. You usually don't see any combos being done by the acrobat. A good example for this is in the video I linked in the description box (above).
I think that's already common sense. What I upload are tutorials and guides. This is just a guide to show what skills can be linked to each other when given the chance to do a combo. I've done a lot of combos in a real fight but didn't record them. Though I plan to upload PvP videos of my own soon.
hello mam or sir do you have a video that for only counter attacks and escape ? i had a tempest on hollywood and i am so obsess of acrobat i am a acrobat adick and i want to learn more counter attacks pls send me a link thank you ^^ you really a good player Thumbs up!
oh...well that's depressing! XD anyway thank you for replying...your video is really useful, i can get a feel of my tempest now and feel much less of a fart at PvP...
Hello! My hotkeys can be found here: goo[DOT]gl[SLASH]hq5RN My layout is a bit weird because I'm using a Razer Nostromo which binds keys 6 to 0 into buttons near my left thumb.
You still have to consider them moving. I tested wone of these combos with a real opponent, it didn't end well because of the fact you have to run back to them to perform the next step in some cases.
Kiting...I don't mind seeing people kiting just as long as they don't run up onto the bridge and use 'surprise' skill there (e.g. Jumping off the bridge and use eagle dive)
Acrobat are ment to do the first move, the element of surprise is important for an acrobat and i do think that a kiting acrobat is a stupid acrobat(an acrobat without skills) and does not deserve to be one, but anyway, that's your playstyle, its valid.
That's not the reason why I'm good at combos :P It's just natural (from my years of gaming). The Nostromo just makes it more comfortable for my hand so I won't develop CTS. The goo[DOT]gl[SLASH]hq5RN is my layout. Type it on the address bar and replace [DOT] with "." and [SLASH] with "/".
i was confused too, the 6-0 is pretty far from WASD keys, it's pretty "hard" to press anyway, is there any alternative on this skills slot, i intend to put these skills "somewhere else" so it can be more accessible
i have a tip for beginners/lowbies Y dont you make your own combos while you are in the dungeon it helps for you to memorize your moves/skills and make chain combos :D Wise tip for some walking stranger :P
How is Magic Arrow a cheap skill? I use it when I have the target on the ground and i'm not sure what to do w/o getting hit by their getup attack :/ And it does little damage
I did mention somewhere that this is actually difficult to pull off in a real match. The point of these videos is to show what skills can be chained into combos. I guess you didn't get the point of the video sir.
the combos are good but its hard to remember and its no good to follow a combo anytime... the combo should be decided during the battle and you cant do those combos like that if the enemy uses escapes not staying at 1 place waiting you to use your skills i would like to see you upload a 1v1 pvp videos real pvp :)
You just gave me a subjective argument. My point is that it is your opinion, and not law. I share the opinion, I don't share the imposition of it as fact.
Sure it's easy to do all this when the enemy isn't fighting back. Let's see a vid where you manage these combos while getting dragged to the floor by an SM. That's a much more helpful vid than showing combos.
+Tenshi (PinguXDPudding) What cap is DN NA now? Can you make an up to date video? Like your new pvp style in WW/temp in your current cap. Cause this patches are way over history than today's patch :> I really would love to see it.
+earl tumala Currently, we're at 90 cap. We are also going to get the new class, Machina, on the 10th. As for my new style in PvP, I'll be holding that off until the T5 changes are finalized so hang tight!
+Tenshi (PinguXDPudding) Ohh nice so DN NA and DN SEA are just close to each other in terms of these events and caps. Cause current DN SEA is also 90 cap and will be releasing machina :>
you can't really say that kiter is really kiting, cause he went against a pro sm at dn sea, and that acro is pro too so, kiting is out of the question. try dn sea pro acros :) don't just put them on your wall of shame without trying them 1v1 :D
These are some of the most poorly performed combos I've seen in a tutorial. If you're going to make a video, at least land all the hits in your combo. Also, there is nothing wrong with kiting. It is a form of strategy. In backing off for your cooldowns, you relinquish pressure you could have created by not kiting. People will always complain about strategies they cannot easily beat, does that mean you should not use them? Don't be swayed by the tears of children. Great production quality.
Thanks PJ! For me, "kiting" for acrobats (or in general) is when players stay at a distance, using only ranged attacks (Twin Shot, Piercing Shot, Magic Arrow, Spirit Shot, Multi Shot, Marionette, etc), and running whenever the enemy comes near with the help of Chain Tumble/Trampoline and B. Float/Tip-Tops. The intention is to avoid any physical contact. You usually don't see any combos being done by the acrobat.
A good example for this is in the video I linked in the description box (above).
Ah yes, a friend told me about that too. What he said is to use Willow Kick after the Furious Winds instead of Cyclone Kick :) And as for the Magic Shot, well, here's a quote, "while the only thing you can do after Magic Arrow flinching is Twin Shot knockdown and nothing else after that (or just nothing at all after flinching), which is really an SS thing."
Thank you! And about the Nostromo, the linked keyboard mapping is similar to my Nostromo key bindings. Here's a screenshot of my settings: goo[DOT]gl[SLASH]keTTw. Keys 1, 2, 3, 6 and 0 are bound to my Razer Naga which is why you don't see them in my Nostromo settings. The analog keys are bound to my macros.
whoa this looks so helpful omg *o* thanks for making these!! I have a problem comboing, partly cuz I tend to randomly use skills and also timing XD is there a good way to practice?
saw your updated skill build @ dn sea THANK YOU ur a big help !
nice vid. it really helped me a lot on what other combos to use. i also want to comment on the "wall of shame" by kiting... eggsy difinitely kited there, but the reason behind is that it was against an SM with parry build.. if you have experience fighting SMs, they tend to parry your attack and cut your combos then they counter combo..also when you launch them in the air they have aerial counter. its a bad idea to rush for a combo given that acros are very fragile..
Hey thanks! As for SMs with Parry build, I've fought a couple of those SMs and never had a disadvantage since I abused my s and approached them from behind and from the sides. I guess the pressure of the competition forced Eggsy to play safe and kite which I understand but in my opinion, he didn't really have to do if he knew how to approach the SM.
Your main skills that have s are Spiral Kick, Kick Shot (during the dash), Spindle Tumble/Tip Tops (during the somersault), Chain Tumble and Tumble.
Is your Nostromo on default binding? I have one and I altered the key binding. The linked key mapping only shows what it is like on a regular keyboard and not the nostromo so I was wondering about the nostromo key binding. Great video too
Yeah! :D Thank you! Let's eat more bacooooooooooooon!
"... there is nothing wrong with kiting", that applies to people who are not against it, of course. But I do agree that it is a form of strategy, a cheap one if you ask me and is frowned upon for Acrobats. If one knows how to properly space out their skills and not spam all of it in a short period of time, they won't get into that situation where they have to back out and resort to kiting. I believe "zoning out" would be better.
Wow. I'm very inspired with the combos that you've made.. Uhm, just a question if you don't mind, what are your hotkeys?? Cause sometimes its hard for me to chain a combo.
It's easy! After using marionette, press right click :D You may have to spam right click just to make sure it will use Somersault Kick and then Double Somersault Kick.
just a question but how come magic shot is cheap? also great video by the way I started doing a different launching move between the furious wind + cyclone kick combo cause it seems doing cyclone on a grounded opponent makes the launching kick miss and will allow your opponent tumble out of the combo TT^TT
When you see the green swirly effect, you're under s.
Sweet Moves.
Hey hey xD Thanks for the sub! And nice timing when I recorded this lol.
in short you have awesome combos :D subbed :D
i really like the NA voice of acrobat +_+
yea thanks LOL..
ive been playing acro for like 2 weeks.. its so cool to know that u can use Double somersault that way..
also what are the skills of Acro that have iFrames
im one of those clerics dancing on the TABLES :) Raiyujin
Hi! PinguXDPudding, thanks for all the tutorial vid you've made,, umm anyway i would like to know the meaning of "kiting" on acrobats.. ^^
Oh, it's cause they updated the skill simulator and it messed up the build. That build was for the T3. Now we have T4, it's different. I'll update it ASAP. Thanks for letting me know!
I think it's called Tip Tops. I might be wrong! But it's to the left of Shortbow Mastery.
Cant wait :)
I apologize for the poorly performed combos. Out of the three videos, I believe this one has the most missed hits. I only had one chance to record these clips due to time constraint since I have better things to do but thanks for the criticism. By making more videos, I learn what to do and what not.
I use shift for both tumble and float :P Just hold it down.
"Kiting" for acrobats (or in general) is when players stay at a distance, using only ranged attacks (Twin Shot, Piercing Shot, Magic Arrow, Spirit Shot, Multi Shot, Marionette, etc), and running whenever the enemy comes near with the help of Chain Tumble/Trampoline and B. Float/Tip-Tops. The intention is to avoid any physical contact. You usually don't see any combos being done by the acrobat.
A good example for this is in the video I linked in the description box (above).
Yes! You can ask a friend to be a dummy practice :D
I think that's already common sense. What I upload are tutorials and guides. This is just a guide to show what skills can be linked to each other when given the chance to do a combo. I've done a lot of combos in a real fight but didn't record them. Though I plan to upload PvP videos of my own soon.
You can practice your own combos on practice arena you can memorize it then.
It will be on the next video :P
It's the official English voices for Dragon Nest North America.
thanks.. by the way which part of spiral kick??
Tnx for the advice :)
hello mam or sir do you have a video that for only counter attacks and escape ? i had a tempest on hollywood and i am so obsess of acrobat i am a acrobat adick and i want to learn more counter attacks pls send me a link thank you ^^ you really a good player Thumbs up!
Question. How do you use float so quickly?? do you use shift or double tap??
Oh hi! That's how I actually play, using those keys xD It looks weird but it works for me @_@
Very soon! >
oh...well that's depressing! XD anyway thank you for replying...your video is really useful, i can get a feel of my tempest now and feel much less of a fart at PvP...
Hello! My hotkeys can be found here: goo[DOT]gl[SLASH]hq5RN
My layout is a bit weird because I'm using a Razer Nostromo which binds keys 6 to 0 into buttons near my left thumb.
The Nostromo is a keyboard/keypad hardware xD For more info about it, you can search it on Google with the keywords "Razer Nostromo"
You still have to consider them moving. I tested wone of these combos with a real opponent, it didn't end well because of the fact you have to run back to them to perform the next step in some cases.
Kiting...I don't mind seeing people kiting just as long as they don't run up onto the bridge and use 'surprise' skill there (e.g. Jumping off the bridge and use eagle dive)
You're welcome :D
Acrobat are ment to do the first move, the element of surprise is important for an acrobat and i do think that a kiting acrobat is a stupid acrobat(an acrobat without skills) and does not deserve to be one, but anyway, that's your playstyle, its valid.
You can put them in EQRFCXZ :P
tenshi i am so appreciate ur combos but i was so being trouble about my acro skill build. can u share ur skill build ? tenshi
Tenshi I love ur intro and I have a problem
That's not the reason why I'm good at combos :P It's just natural (from my years of gaming). The Nostromo just makes it more comfortable for my hand so I won't develop CTS. The goo[DOT]gl[SLASH]hq5RN is my layout. Type it on the address bar and replace [DOT] with "." and [SLASH] with "/".
i was confused too, the 6-0 is pretty far from WASD keys, it's pretty "hard" to press
anyway, is there any alternative on this skills slot, i intend to put these skills "somewhere else" so it can be more accessible
Why arnt u making more videos?
i have a tip for beginners/lowbies
Y dont you make your own combos while you are in the dungeon it helps for you to memorize your moves/skills and make chain combos :D
Wise tip for some walking stranger :P
How is Magic Arrow a cheap skill? I use it when I have the target on the ground and i'm not sure what to do w/o getting hit by their getup attack :/ And it does little damage
HAVE A QUESTION! in your skill build why is there any cylone kick butterfly float furios wind summer salt dance @.@
@LsOngVE which combo are you talking about? because the only time I combo is when I forced to waste their evades.
dude, did u use sound mood archer? what is that language ?
oh i forgot.. xD with an infi acro combo you wont really need to kite that much xD just basically kill somebody wth a good un-ending combo :)
do you know how to remove the extra 2 skill slots on the skill palette..? Its really annoying me because I keep on pressing the wrong skill... :(
I relize pingu love to use air pounce hehe
Haha xD I used to use it a lot but not much now.
Hello!! im a fan and i have a windwalker can u teach me some combos ?? plssss
question sir how do you marrionette > double somersault?? im a noob on acro ..
Any combo sheets?
Which combo are you talking about? Because the only time I perform combos is after I forced them to waste their evades and such.
Hello! DNArmory is currently broken and not showing the correct build :x
I did mention somewhere that this is actually difficult to pull off in a real match. The point of these videos is to show what skills can be chained into combos. I guess you didn't get the point of the video sir.
LOL @ meme.Great job.
Nexon Dragon Nest (NA) - Velskud/Argenta/Gerrant/Elena server!
You're playing Nexon or Cherry Credits Dragon Nest??? and what server?
Somersault dance has a 10 second cool down now. =(
how come you dont have blooming kick in your skill build but you have in ur tutorial??
can you create combo with japanese or korean voice pack ? i really want to watch it with that voice pack, keep spirit ! :)
Can you share your skill build ? plzz
Yes, I am Filipino :P
Silly me. Haha. Btw are you playing Sea server?
Can you show me, skill build acrobat T4 . . . . . .
the combos are good but its hard to remember and its no good to follow a combo anytime... the combo should be decided during the battle and you cant do those combos like that if the enemy uses escapes not staying at 1 place waiting you to use your skills i would like to see you upload a 1v1 pvp videos real pvp :)
i cant see butterfly float in my skill tree.. im playing dnsea, have they changed the name somehow?
Lol at Tinkledeath and her vibrator comments *falls off chair from laughter*
Hey! Thanks and what's the problem? :O
You just gave me a subjective argument. My point is that it is your opinion, and not law. I share the opinion, I don't share the imposition of it as fact.
Sure it's easy to do all this when the enemy isn't fighting back. Let's see a vid where you manage these combos while getting dragged to the floor by an SM. That's a much more helpful vid than showing combos.
Thank you! I only have one counter video at the moment. Just check my channel. No escapes though!
ah, that's why you're good in chaining combos..what's goo[DOT]gl[SLASH]hq5RN? xD
Question: Is DN NA still operating? :)
+earl tumala Yes, it's still operating! dragonnest.nexon.net
+Tenshi (PinguXDPudding) What cap is DN NA now? Can you make an up to date video? Like your new pvp style in WW/temp in your current cap. Cause this patches are way over history than today's patch :> I really would love to see it.
+earl tumala Currently, we're at 90 cap. We are also going to get the new class, Machina, on the 10th. As for my new style in PvP, I'll be holding that off until the T5 changes are finalized so hang tight!
+Tenshi (PinguXDPudding) Ohh nice so DN NA and DN SEA are just close to each other in terms of these events and caps. Cause current DN SEA is also 90 cap and will be releasing machina :>
Why should I not demote a cheap strategy? It's valid and beatable but it makes the PvP experience less fun for both ends.
You can't :( What you can do is: 12345(blank) (blank)67890
Haha! Yeah, she has a very broad imagination and good humor.
you can't really say that kiter is really kiting, cause he went against a pro sm at dn sea, and that acro is pro too so, kiting is out of the question. try dn sea pro acros :) don't just put them on your wall of shame without trying them 1v1 :D
if you were a bowmaster ill make an exception but in this case its an acrobat.. so... NO!!
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Stopped watching this after the pages of kite bashing. Do not demote a strategy. As much as I hate it, if it can beat me then it's a valid strategy.
These are some of the most poorly performed combos I've seen in a tutorial. If you're going to make a video, at least land all the hits in your combo. Also, there is nothing wrong with kiting. It is a form of strategy. In backing off for your cooldowns, you relinquish pressure you could have created by not kiting. People will always complain about strategies they cannot easily beat, does that mean you should not use them? Don't be swayed by the tears of children.
Great production quality.
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