If Allan told me to use old bacon grease I think I'd put my reservations aside and just do it, if Ivan told me to I probably would as well. An hour pleasantly spent
Just re-watching Monsieur Hulot's Holiday for the first time in 50+ years. I see at the beginning of the film, he is driving a Salmson AS-3 cycle car (1924?). I wonder what happened to it after the film, which was made in 1953.
What a treat and a fabulous story to share. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. Can wait to hear this beautiful piece of 100 year old engineering art fire up.
Another excellent show, great sound, great video and such interesting content. I hope Allen sees this and enjoys the idea of chopping your engine up and adding extra cylinders.
I like the little cast feet on the sump so it sits nicely on the bench! Fantastic film, thank you. I thought my Riley 9 engine was advanced for the time but they never quite made it to full overhead cam. Your practical approach to these cars is very inspirational. I have not much background in it (I've build an MGB, an Austin 7 and now the Riley 9 Brooklands replica) but seeing your pragmatic approach to things makes me confident I am doing things the right way. I assembled my Riley engine from bits and a lot of researching and reading and talking to people. Just being careful and understanding how and why things work the way they do means you can work most things out without being an 'expert'. So seeing what you do, and what people like Allen Millyard do (with a hacksaw!), helps inspire amateurs like me. I wish I could say I was a young amateur but I got started fairly late unfortunately.
Another great episode. I understand the need for excellent lighting, now Ime 70 I have so many LED lights in my workshop it nearly blinds younger folk, but I can’t see without them .😁
I really enjoy watching the fellows in the shed doing work. Tanya has made the viewing great with good lighting and smooth motions and tight focus, also the artwork in the intros are first rate. These shows remind me of Alan Milyard's work in his shed, I half expect to see the little clockwork bartender (can't remember his name just now) and grabbing a muffin. It's all so chummy and fun. Thank you all.
As always a great video. And an extra smile on my face when you mentioned The Chequered Flag. I remember looking through their window at their Chiswick showroom as a young lad with a grin on my face.
That is a wonderful looking engine, nothing other than what is needed to make it function, but designed with an almost artistic eye. Can't wait to see it running.
Thanks for letting us spend an hour in your workshop Ivan and John. That hour just flew by, great to watch you oh so knowledgeable chaps in the "Shed". Just on the head fragility, could you counterbore the head stud holes from the top and fit alloy crush tubes with coolant seal 'O' rings in the upper counterbore surface to bring the fastener pressure directly onto the inner top side of the head gasket surface, just a thought.
I wouldn't use alloy myself but I think I'd make from brass rod just a fraction longer than the height of the deck and seal with a large copper washer with sealant under it
Is there a gasket between the cylinder and the head ? i didn't see one ,may i say how much your videos have improved since you managed to capture with your charms your new Cub Lady camera person for me Shed Racing are the best videos on youtube Thank you Team I just love you Guys.
Lovely looking engine. Especially good to hear you appreciation for Paul Smith and his products. He also makes a lot of stuff for early bicycles. Excellent guy Paul and a talented engineer. Helped me out many times from correcting the value pockets on Dino pistons for which he made a fixture to oil gallery fittings for the Maserati. Great video !
Every video is a little better than the last. I always like to hear the stories and the connected information. Thank you so much for sharing all of this with us and I can't wait to hear that engine run
100 years from now; Ivan you'll be dissecting some Salmson or other; and admiring the ingenious craftsmanship of the repairs !. Saying " Blimey me coblers whoever did that was a genius !!!" . P.S, I say motorise your rotisorie . The Americans will have to have one too !.
What a great video again! Could you make a video where you tell John's history a bit. It would be interesting to hear a little about him as well. If I understand correctly, Ivan and John have a long history together. Great guys, both of them!
the 1st petrol engun was invented by a guy named Sebastion.....he did not use exhaust manifolds and hence forth burnt the garage down on the 1 st fireing of it....hence forth the name...INFERNAL SEBASTION ENGINE
Love your work Ivan , ? Do you still race . It would be good to see what projects your working on . I keep sharing your posts to my mates down here as they all think your a star one life’s caricatures . God bless. 🇦🇺👍
To make it more accurate valve timing if you use a depth gauge and put the piston 7 mm down the bore, then set the timing disc to Zero, then swing the piston down and up on the next stroke and again stop at 7mm before top dead centre. Now look at the degree disc and you can see the difference between the two reading say it was 20 degrees half it and use that value agains you timing pointer. This is far more accurate as crank can swing at TDC and piston movement is hard to assess. Love the show Ivan.
Great video. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. One of the best yet. Plenty of cautionary advice for new players and … a beautiful twin cam engine to show for it!
You are dead right Ivan that is a really pretty engine. The upside down cam buckets was a brilliant idea to keep the slim dimensions of the cam box and that's the main reason it looks so nice, as it's not top heavy looking. Lovely job by everyone involved. Paul Smith is a very, very talented engineer. His parts are superbly made, you can tell that by looking at one of his new cam buckets. In machining terms that's a bloody work of art.( unless it was done in a CNC mill of course!) but I suspect they are turned on an engine lathe then milled. And you are correct about Allan Milliard, his cutting and shutting motorcycle engines are complete works of art when finished and could and should be in museums. And ithat low friction oil he recommends , well if he says it's good you can believe it. By the way Ivan, have you seen his V10 Dodge Viper engined bike he built? Now that's some machine! But to think those Salmson twin cam engines were made over 100 years ago is mind blowing, when you think back to the early days of say the first Lotus twin cams and everyone thought what a good idea! So new! Now we know different! Can't wait to see and hear your new engine running. Great episode Ivan and John, and Tanya.
I was looking at some pictures of this engine and came across one which had twin SU carburetors. Obviously the cylinder head must have been modified but I couldn't see enough detail of what had been done. Between them I could see a blanking plate covering the original intake. Sounds like a job for Allen Millyard.
This is why I love the Amilcar, Particularly the C6 - DOHC and SUpercharged 1100cc 4 cylinder in the late 20s when even Overhead valve was yet to be a common thing in cars!
Can you guys or somebody explain the gearbox at the crank that feeds the quill shaft upto the camshaft cross bevel gears...what are the two silicon bronze dog couplings for - do they drive chains to wheels?
Very interesting. This is how the camshaft timing is set on the Porsche 911 engine. A certain amount of lift on the dial indicator and then the pin locked the cam to the timing gear chain sprocket, then the huge cam nut on top, tighten with a special tool that I had to buy myself.
You sir are amazing your shop is spot on and I draw inspiration from you A lot of people should be looking at your videos and drawing inspiration and seeing that just because you're this age or that age or whatever you should keep going regardless Don't let a number hold you back. That's what I'm learning here
What an absolute gem of an engine. And again, the old-world mechanical prowess displayed by Ivan and John is a joy to behold. I suspect these gents could find an old rock in the field, take it to the shed, tinker with it a bit, and have it nicely ticking over within an hour. Blessings…
Love the music clips in these vids from that Bugatti era !!🎶🎻🎶🎻 Just perfect as Allan Milliyard would say. Cant wait Goowood Revival again to see this era of Jalopies racing 🤠
Ivan Did you meet or know Lord Montague's son in England during the late '50 or early '60? He and his father used to be keen car collectors. I'm asking you because we went to the same school in Wiltshire. By the way your videos are excellent!
Really Incredible. I am looking for a Curtiss OX V-8 but they are almost unobtainable so I may do the next best thing which is to hunt down someone who has all the specs or who may have a block and other pieces that I can copy and cast my own engine. Fairly straightforward. Great video Ivan. Thanks for sharing.
Old blocks like that sometimes I would find the right bolt fine thread tap the block out for the bolts machining flat read the middle of the bolts for the size of your studs basically making my own case savers.
For recovering pulled threads Time-Serts are really good, they are a bit like a Heli-Coil but a solid threaded sleeve internally and externally. You drill out the pulled thread hole larger, step the hole with a tool in the kit cut a thread in the larger hole and then using the installation tool and a small amount of oil wind in the Time-Sert, the collar on the top stops and locate in the step and you carry on winding the tool in which expands the Time-Sert so it is locked in position. Thread sizes might be and issue I know they do metric and US sizes. You will be impressed with the result. They do a double thickness insert if the threaded hole has pulled and then elongated. It no stronger than a Heli-Coil but a far more professional result and will withstand assembly and disassembly better. Pulled spark plug holes also catered for. The double diameter one is stronger than a Heli-Coil. I saw a guy testing them on the Web. I have used them and fantastic result. A friend used them all the time, when threads on his alloy two stroke racing engine cylinder head bolts pulled.
I love it when you point out the little things like the single port cast inlet into the head. Ford were still doing that with the six cylinder Falcon into the seventies. 🤣
Such a beautiful little engine, really looking forward to seeing & hearing it run. I think my favorite part is the curved ends on the crankcase & head plus the brilliant yet simple shaft drive for the cams ... inverted valve buckets...its all so good but so clean & tidy
A really interesting video, looking forward to seeing it run. Allan Millyard is an absolute genius the greatest home engineer ever. Converting a push rod engine into a twin ohc one remids me of what MG did with the BMC B series engine for the MGA twin cam.
If Allan Milliyard recommends something, it will be just perfect!!
If Allan told me to use old bacon grease I think I'd put my reservations aside and just do it, if Ivan told me to I probably would as well.
An hour pleasantly spent
And Allen would be "very pleased about that", a National treasure, him and Ivan.
Ha ha!
I love alans motorbikes.true genius.
Just re-watching Monsieur Hulot's Holiday for the first time in 50+ years. I see at the beginning of the film, he is driving a Salmson AS-3 cycle car (1924?). I wonder what happened to it after the film, which was made in 1953.
What a treat and a fabulous story to share. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. Can wait to hear this beautiful piece of 100 year old engineering art fire up.
Hello boy's with regard to your special tools just stamp them with a number then write in a book the explanation of that number :)
Another excellent show, great sound, great video and such interesting content. I hope Allen sees this and enjoys the idea of chopping your engine up and adding extra cylinders.
Such a sweet engine; enjoyed as always! All the best from Canada.
Glad you got the word out about this channel. Great stuff. I keep it on for hours at a time.
I like the little cast feet on the sump so it sits nicely on the bench! Fantastic film, thank you. I thought my Riley 9 engine was advanced for the time but they never quite made it to full overhead cam. Your practical approach to these cars is very inspirational. I have not much background in it (I've build an MGB, an Austin 7 and now the Riley 9 Brooklands replica) but seeing your pragmatic approach to things makes me confident I am doing things the right way. I assembled my Riley engine from bits and a lot of researching and reading and talking to people. Just being careful and understanding how and why things work the way they do means you can work most things out without being an 'expert'. So seeing what you do, and what people like Allen Millyard do (with a hacksaw!), helps inspire amateurs like me. I wish I could say I was a young amateur but I got started fairly late unfortunately.
It is astonishingly advanced for the 1920s. - Bit of Vim on the sink would no go amiss. Millyard is amazing ! Handy lump of steel. Very entertaining.
Wonderful stuff Ivan. Great history and technical content, John is a marvel too.
Best wishes, Dean.
Another great episode. I understand the need for excellent lighting, now Ime 70 I have so many LED lights in my workshop it nearly blinds younger folk, but I can’t see without them .😁
I really enjoy watching the fellows in the shed doing work. Tanya has made the viewing great with good lighting and smooth motions and tight focus, also the artwork in the intros are first rate. These shows remind me of Alan Milyard's work in his shed, I half expect to see the little clockwork bartender (can't remember his name just now) and grabbing a muffin. It's all so chummy and fun. Thank you all.
As always a great video. And an extra smile on my face when you mentioned The Chequered Flag. I remember looking through their window at their Chiswick showroom as a young lad with a grin on my face.
That is a wonderful looking engine, nothing other than what is needed to make it function, but designed with an almost artistic eye. Can't wait to see it running.
Thanks for letting us spend an hour in your workshop Ivan and John.
That hour just flew by, great to watch you oh so knowledgeable chaps in the "Shed". Just on the head fragility, could you counterbore the head stud holes from the top and fit alloy crush tubes with coolant seal 'O' rings in the upper counterbore surface to bring the fastener pressure directly onto the inner top side of the head gasket surface, just a thought.
I wouldn't use alloy myself but I think I'd make from brass rod just a fraction longer than the height of the deck and seal with a large copper washer with sealant under it
Is there a gasket between the cylinder and the head ? i didn't see one ,may i say how much your videos have improved since you managed to capture with your charms your new Cub Lady camera person for me Shed Racing are the best videos on youtube Thank you Team I just love you Guys.
Lovely looking engine.
Especially good to hear you appreciation for Paul Smith and his products. He also makes a lot of stuff for early bicycles. Excellent guy Paul and a talented engineer. Helped me out many times from correcting the value pockets on Dino pistons for which he made a fixture to oil gallery fittings for the Maserati.
Great video !
Every video is a little better than the last. I always like to hear the stories and the connected information. Thank you so much for sharing all of this with us and I can't wait to hear that engine run
100 years from now; Ivan you'll be dissecting some Salmson or other; and admiring the ingenious craftsmanship of the repairs !. Saying " Blimey me coblers whoever did that was a genius !!!" . P.S, I say motorise your rotisorie . The Americans will have to have one too !.
What a great video again! Could you make a video where you tell John's history a bit. It would be interesting to hear a little about him as well. If I understand correctly, Ivan and John have a long history together. Great guys, both of them!
Good Afternoon Ivan. Thank You for sharing the history of the race engine. Your YT videos are informative and entertaining. From WLG NZ..
the 1st petrol engun was invented by a guy named Sebastion.....he did not use exhaust manifolds and hence forth burnt the garage down on the 1 st fireing of it....hence forth the name...INFERNAL SEBASTION ENGINE
Wonderful. You're teaching me a lot, Ivan.
Genius bloody genius what a lovely motor you two are great engineers time for a book about you two thanks folks 👍👨🏻🏭
Whatever happened with the 2 cycle mini engine?
Absolutely fantastic. Tremendous video, a big thank you to all involved.
Love your work Ivan , ? Do you still race . It would be good to see what projects your working on . I keep sharing your posts to my mates down here as they all think your a star one life’s caricatures . God bless. 🇦🇺👍
Great comedy interspersed with a bit of engine building.
John could do with being miked. I can't fathom why the block is black, why is that ? Tanya does a great job behind the camera. Great video, thank you.
Brilliant, thanks for taking the trouble to make this, and pass on your knowledge.
To make it more accurate valve timing if you use a depth gauge and put the piston 7 mm down the bore, then set the timing disc to Zero, then swing the piston down and up on the next stroke and again stop at 7mm before top dead centre. Now look at the degree disc and you can see the difference between the two reading say it was 20 degrees half it and use that value agains you timing pointer. This is far more accurate as crank can swing at TDC and piston movement is hard to assess. Love the show Ivan.
If I missed a previous explanation please point me to the answer ...
How do 4 pushrods open 8 valves ?
Agree 100% re Millyard, but you're not too bad yourselves! ;-)
Really enjoyed the video. I am a big fan of Allen Millyard too.
Ivan for PM you have got my vote
The twin cam engine I'm used to is the Fiat 124 twin cam.
Great video. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. One of the best yet. Plenty of cautionary advice for new players and … a beautiful twin cam engine to show for it!
You are dead right Ivan that is a really pretty engine. The upside down cam buckets was a brilliant idea to keep the slim dimensions of the cam box and that's the main reason it looks so nice, as it's not top heavy looking. Lovely job by everyone involved. Paul Smith is a very, very talented engineer. His parts are superbly made, you can tell that by looking at one of his new cam buckets. In machining terms that's a bloody work of art.( unless it was done in a CNC mill of course!) but I suspect they are turned on an engine lathe then milled. And you are correct about Allan Milliard, his cutting and shutting motorcycle engines are complete works of art when finished and could and should be in museums. And ithat low friction oil he recommends , well if he says it's good you can believe it. By the way Ivan, have you seen his V10 Dodge Viper engined bike he built? Now that's some machine! But to think those Salmson twin cam engines were made over 100 years ago is mind blowing, when you think back to the early days of say the first Lotus twin cams and everyone thought what a good idea! So new! Now we know different! Can't wait to see and hear your new engine running. Great episode Ivan and John, and Tanya.
Thanks for a wonderful video. Wishing you, John, and Tanya a DELUXE day!
I was looking at some pictures of this engine and came across one which had twin SU carburetors. Obviously the cylinder head must have been modified but I couldn't see enough detail of what had been done. Between them I could see a blanking plate covering the original intake. Sounds like a job for Allen Millyard.
So nice of you to mention Alan Millyard, another English eccentric genius.
This is why I love the Amilcar, Particularly the C6 - DOHC and SUpercharged 1100cc 4 cylinder in the late 20s when even Overhead valve was yet to be a common thing in cars!
Can you guys or somebody explain the gearbox at the crank that feeds the quill shaft upto the camshaft cross bevel gears...what are the two silicon bronze dog couplings for - do they drive chains to wheels?
Very interesting. This is how the camshaft timing is set on the Porsche 911 engine. A certain amount of lift on the dial indicator and then the pin locked the cam to the timing gear chain sprocket, then the huge cam nut on top, tighten with a special tool that I had to buy myself.
You are correct Ivan the engine is a cracker....
You sir are amazing your shop is spot on and I draw inspiration from you A lot of people should be looking at your videos and drawing inspiration and seeing that just because you're this age or that age or whatever you should keep going regardless Don't let a number hold you back. That's what I'm learning here
Brilliant hearing of your success in 73’
beautiful twincam, very elegant design, crazy for 100 year old tech
Love the shout out to Alan Millyard! Two legends
What an absolute gem of an engine. And again, the old-world mechanical prowess displayed by Ivan and John is a joy to behold. I suspect these gents could find an old rock in the field, take it to the shed, tinker with it a bit, and have it nicely ticking over within an hour. Blessings…
Looking forward to seeing you win something with that engine looks like a proper work of art.
I love the timing drive, more reliable than belts or chains. The old ohc aircraft engines were similar. Great video.
Love the music clips in these vids from that Bugatti era !!🎶🎻🎶🎻
Just perfect as Allan Milliyard would say.
Cant wait Goowood Revival again to see this era of Jalopies racing 🤠
Every episode is priceless. Thank you for creating such an entertaining, insightful and educational channel.
Beautiful Grand Prix Engine! Lewis Hamilton better look out!.
Great job you old boys are lovely for sure. Many thanks. keep them coming. Can wait to see it run.
And that engine is really super cool looking. I hope it runs awesome or like you Brits like to say it's brilliant
Fabulous Ivan. Very much appreciated and enjoyed.
Ivan
Did you meet or know Lord Montague's son in England during the late '50 or early '60? He and his father used to be keen car collectors. I'm asking you because we went to the same school in Wiltshire.
By the way your videos are excellent!
What a really excellent way to spend an hour. It really is such therapy for petrolheads! I love the stories and yes, the engine is beautiful.
fabulous thank you so much Ivan john and Tanya for bring us all these wonderful videos
Really Incredible. I am looking for a Curtiss OX V-8 but they are almost unobtainable so I may do the next best thing which is to hunt down someone who has all the specs or who may have a block and other pieces that I can copy and cast my own engine. Fairly straightforward. Great video Ivan. Thanks for sharing.
How about king Kenny flat tracking with that motor on board. Now that’s impressive
most enjoyable. many thanks Ivan, John and Tanya 👍👍👍👍
I fear the day all this experience, all this knowledge will be lost, like tears in the rain. (inspired by Roy, Blade Runner)
This would be an excellent hot rod engine, especially stuffed in an Austin 7 or Model Y Ford.
Great video, Mr.Dutton. I see you smacked your left hand with an 'ammer!😬
I want to know more about Mr Dutton, perhaps a video of his biography would be fantastic.
What a fabulous engine and the two foremost experts in the world to build it! Such a treasurehouse of knowledge between the two of you.
Old blocks like that sometimes I would find the right bolt fine thread tap the block out for the bolts machining flat read the middle of the bolts for the size of your studs basically making my own case savers.
Thank you very interesting
For recovering pulled threads Time-Serts are really good, they are a bit like a Heli-Coil but a solid threaded sleeve internally and externally. You drill out the pulled thread hole larger, step the hole with a tool in the kit cut a thread in the larger hole and then using the installation tool and a small amount of oil wind in the Time-Sert, the collar on the top stops and locate in the step and you carry on winding the tool in which expands the Time-Sert so it is locked in position. Thread sizes might be and issue I know they do metric and US sizes. You will be impressed with the result. They do a double thickness insert if the threaded hole has pulled and then elongated. It no stronger than a Heli-Coil but a far more professional result and will withstand assembly and disassembly better. Pulled spark plug holes also catered for. The double diameter one is stronger than a Heli-Coil. I saw a guy testing them on the Web. I have used them and fantastic result. A friend used them all the time, when threads on his alloy two stroke racing engine cylinder head bolts pulled.
A neat engine and a fun instructional video. Thank you. I like to take pictures of my special tools and put them in a binder with labels.😉
"GPS" engine? A description of just what that is in the text would be welcome.
Another great Video! Look forward to your next one!
Fell asleep on a Sunday afternoon to wake up to this video. Sat and watched the whole lot very enjoyable. Thank you, and you have a new subscriber.
Talking about Allen Millyard, can you do some motorcycle input as I think John is a bit of a biker boy ?
Just subscribed new to the channel. It's a pleasure watching a master at work 👍
Great stuff. Thank you very much.
This old guy (Ivan Dutton) and his helpers are amazing!
Talent that just doesn't exist any more.
Ripper Vid by all.. appreciate the chat and the history
I love it when you point out the little things like the single port cast inlet into the head. Ford were still doing that with the six cylinder Falcon into the seventies. 🤣
Oh I'd love to meet you Ivan if only I lived closer.
I'm heading south on an engine course would love to come and say hello
Such a great vid. Loved every minute of it.
Another top video
Thank you for sharing your expertise
More solid gold from the shed. Absolutely marvellous. 👍
Top job, it's nice to hear the history of the development of the engine. I can't wait until I hear it running.
Brilliant, the way you do things the same as me, right up my street and I'm 84 next week. Keep up the good work.
Very enjoyable. Well done Tania.
Ivan you are right i struggle to see in dim light these days at 63 its a pain in the proverbial Stay safe
Thanks for sharing yourself with us, Ivan!
Absolutely fabulous video. The engineering on this engine is really interesting. Really looking forward to the next part 4.
Comments about Allen Millyard, so funny!
Great video
Such a beautiful little engine, really looking forward to seeing & hearing it run. I think my favorite part is the curved ends on the crankcase & head plus the brilliant yet simple shaft drive for the cams ... inverted valve buckets...its all so good but so clean & tidy
Another excellent production. I can listen for hours and watch this type of "infomentary", once again thank you.
Zx1 is a great oil
A really interesting video, looking forward to seeing it run. Allan Millyard is an absolute genius the greatest home engineer ever.
Converting a push rod engine into a twin ohc one remids me of what MG did with the BMC B series engine for the MGA twin cam.
Beautiful !! Love the narrow cam boxes. Go Ivan,,,
Proper engineering can’t beat it
Great video
Thanks for sharing