The unsung hero of all these videos is old John, who does all the hard and accurate work while showing the patience of a saint towards Ivan. Beautiful lathe-work on that oil cap copy. Nomatter how many times Ivan says "We are not very clever." I beg to differ, you are both true craftsmen and operating at the peak of your art. Lovely work gentlemen!
Love the music clips in these vids from that Bugatti era !!🎶🎻🎶🎻 Just perfect as Allan Milliyard would say. Cant wait Goowood Revival again to see this era of Jalopies racing 🤠
If Allan told me to use old bacon grease I think I'd put my reservations aside and just do it, if Ivan told me to I probably would as well. An hour pleasantly spent
Really Incredible. I am looking for a Curtiss OX V-8 but they are almost unobtainable so I may do the next best thing which is to hunt down someone who has all the specs or who may have a block and other pieces that I can copy and cast my own engine. Fairly straightforward. Great video Ivan. Thanks for sharing.
100 years from now; Ivan you'll be dissecting some Salmson or other; and admiring the ingenious craftsmanship of the repairs !. Saying " Blimey me coblers whoever did that was a genius !!!" . P.S, I say motorise your rotisorie . The Americans will have to have one too !.
What a treat and a fabulous story to share. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. Can wait to hear this beautiful piece of 100 year old engineering art fire up.
To make it more accurate valve timing if you use a depth gauge and put the piston 7 mm down the bore, then set the timing disc to Zero, then swing the piston down and up on the next stroke and again stop at 7mm before top dead centre. Now look at the degree disc and you can see the difference between the two reading say it was 20 degrees half it and use that value agains you timing pointer. This is far more accurate as crank can swing at TDC and piston movement is hard to assess. Love the show Ivan.
As always a great video. And an extra smile on my face when you mentioned The Chequered Flag. I remember looking through their window at their Chiswick showroom as a young lad with a grin on my face.
Every video is a little better than the last. I always like to hear the stories and the connected information. Thank you so much for sharing all of this with us and I can't wait to hear that engine run
Thanks for letting us spend an hour in your workshop Ivan and John. That hour just flew by, great to watch you oh so knowledgeable chaps in the "Shed". Just on the head fragility, could you counterbore the head stud holes from the top and fit alloy crush tubes with coolant seal 'O' rings in the upper counterbore surface to bring the fastener pressure directly onto the inner top side of the head gasket surface, just a thought.
I wouldn't use alloy myself but I think I'd make from brass rod just a fraction longer than the height of the deck and seal with a large copper washer with sealant under it
I really enjoy watching the fellows in the shed doing work. Tanya has made the viewing great with good lighting and smooth motions and tight focus, also the artwork in the intros are first rate. These shows remind me of Alan Milyard's work in his shed, I half expect to see the little clockwork bartender (can't remember his name just now) and grabbing a muffin. It's all so chummy and fun. Thank you all.
This is why I love the Amilcar, Particularly the C6 - DOHC and SUpercharged 1100cc 4 cylinder in the late 20s when even Overhead valve was yet to be a common thing in cars!
Another excellent show, great sound, great video and such interesting content. I hope Allen sees this and enjoys the idea of chopping your engine up and adding extra cylinders.
That is a wonderful looking engine, nothing other than what is needed to make it function, but designed with an almost artistic eye. Can't wait to see it running.
Great video. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. One of the best yet. Plenty of cautionary advice for new players and … a beautiful twin cam engine to show for it!
Another great episode. I understand the need for excellent lighting, now Ime 70 I have so many LED lights in my workshop it nearly blinds younger folk, but I can’t see without them .😁
What an absolute gem of an engine. And again, the old-world mechanical prowess displayed by Ivan and John is a joy to behold. I suspect these gents could find an old rock in the field, take it to the shed, tinker with it a bit, and have it nicely ticking over within an hour. Blessings…
Lovely looking engine. Especially good to hear you appreciation for Paul Smith and his products. He also makes a lot of stuff for early bicycles. Excellent guy Paul and a talented engineer. Helped me out many times from correcting the value pockets on Dino pistons for which he made a fixture to oil gallery fittings for the Maserati. Great video !
I like the little cast feet on the sump so it sits nicely on the bench! Fantastic film, thank you. I thought my Riley 9 engine was advanced for the time but they never quite made it to full overhead cam. Your practical approach to these cars is very inspirational. I have not much background in it (I've build an MGB, an Austin 7 and now the Riley 9 Brooklands replica) but seeing your pragmatic approach to things makes me confident I am doing things the right way. I assembled my Riley engine from bits and a lot of researching and reading and talking to people. Just being careful and understanding how and why things work the way they do means you can work most things out without being an 'expert'. So seeing what you do, and what people like Allen Millyard do (with a hacksaw!), helps inspire amateurs like me. I wish I could say I was a young amateur but I got started fairly late unfortunately.
Such a beautiful little engine, really looking forward to seeing & hearing it run. I think my favorite part is the curved ends on the crankcase & head plus the brilliant yet simple shaft drive for the cams ... inverted valve buckets...its all so good but so clean & tidy
Love your work Ivan , ? Do you still race . It would be good to see what projects your working on . I keep sharing your posts to my mates down here as they all think your a star one life’s caricatures . God bless. 🇦🇺👍
that was a great insight on the twin cam head.. so I'm seeing the BDA & later Cosworth development of the KENT and on was really just building on the long tradition of "make it go hard & hold together".. what a legacy .. all the way to the F1's of today!
I love it when you point out the little things like the single port cast inlet into the head. Ford were still doing that with the six cylinder Falcon into the seventies. 🤣
Just re-watching Monsieur Hulot's Holiday for the first time in 50+ years. I see at the beginning of the film, he is driving a Salmson AS-3 cycle car (1924?). I wonder what happened to it after the film, which was made in 1953.
A really interesting video, looking forward to seeing it run. Allan Millyard is an absolute genius the greatest home engineer ever. Converting a push rod engine into a twin ohc one remids me of what MG did with the BMC B series engine for the MGA twin cam.
You sir are amazing your shop is spot on and I draw inspiration from you A lot of people should be looking at your videos and drawing inspiration and seeing that just because you're this age or that age or whatever you should keep going regardless Don't let a number hold you back. That's what I'm learning here
For recovering pulled threads Time-Serts are really good, they are a bit like a Heli-Coil but a solid threaded sleeve internally and externally. You drill out the pulled thread hole larger, step the hole with a tool in the kit cut a thread in the larger hole and then using the installation tool and a small amount of oil wind in the Time-Sert, the collar on the top stops and locate in the step and you carry on winding the tool in which expands the Time-Sert so it is locked in position. Thread sizes might be and issue I know they do metric and US sizes. You will be impressed with the result. They do a double thickness insert if the threaded hole has pulled and then elongated. It no stronger than a Heli-Coil but a far more professional result and will withstand assembly and disassembly better. Pulled spark plug holes also catered for. The double diameter one is stronger than a Heli-Coil. I saw a guy testing them on the Web. I have used them and fantastic result. A friend used them all the time, when threads on his alloy two stroke racing engine cylinder head bolts pulled.
You are dead right Ivan that is a really pretty engine. The upside down cam buckets was a brilliant idea to keep the slim dimensions of the cam box and that's the main reason it looks so nice, as it's not top heavy looking. Lovely job by everyone involved. Paul Smith is a very, very talented engineer. His parts are superbly made, you can tell that by looking at one of his new cam buckets. In machining terms that's a bloody work of art.( unless it was done in a CNC mill of course!) but I suspect they are turned on an engine lathe then milled. And you are correct about Allan Milliard, his cutting and shutting motorcycle engines are complete works of art when finished and could and should be in museums. And ithat low friction oil he recommends , well if he says it's good you can believe it. By the way Ivan, have you seen his V10 Dodge Viper engined bike he built? Now that's some machine! But to think those Salmson twin cam engines were made over 100 years ago is mind blowing, when you think back to the early days of say the first Lotus twin cams and everyone thought what a good idea! So new! Now we know different! Can't wait to see and hear your new engine running. Great episode Ivan and John, and Tanya.
Ivan Did you meet or know Lord Montague's son in England during the late '50 or early '60? He and his father used to be keen car collectors. I'm asking you because we went to the same school in Wiltshire. By the way your videos are excellent!
I was looking at some pictures of this engine and came across one which had twin SU carburetors. Obviously the cylinder head must have been modified but I couldn't see enough detail of what had been done. Between them I could see a blanking plate covering the original intake. Sounds like a job for Allen Millyard.
What a great video again! Could you make a video where you tell John's history a bit. It would be interesting to hear a little about him as well. If I understand correctly, Ivan and John have a long history together. Great guys, both of them!
Very interesting. This is how the camshaft timing is set on the Porsche 911 engine. A certain amount of lift on the dial indicator and then the pin locked the cam to the timing gear chain sprocket, then the huge cam nut on top, tighten with a special tool that I had to buy myself.
The unsung hero of all these videos is old John, who does all the hard and accurate work while showing the patience of a saint towards Ivan. Beautiful lathe-work on that oil cap copy. Nomatter how many times Ivan says "We are not very clever." I beg to differ, you are both true craftsmen and operating at the peak of your art. Lovely work gentlemen!
Love the music clips in these vids from that Bugatti era !!🎶🎻🎶🎻
Just perfect as Allan Milliyard would say.
Cant wait Goowood Revival again to see this era of Jalopies racing 🤠
If Allan Milliyard recommends something, it will be just perfect!!
If Allan told me to use old bacon grease I think I'd put my reservations aside and just do it, if Ivan told me to I probably would as well.
An hour pleasantly spent
And Allen would be "very pleased about that", a National treasure, him and Ivan.
Ha ha!
I love alans motorbikes.true genius.
What a fabulous engine and the two foremost experts in the world to build it! Such a treasurehouse of knowledge between the two of you.
Really Incredible. I am looking for a Curtiss OX V-8 but they are almost unobtainable so I may do the next best thing which is to hunt down someone who has all the specs or who may have a block and other pieces that I can copy and cast my own engine. Fairly straightforward. Great video Ivan. Thanks for sharing.
100 years from now; Ivan you'll be dissecting some Salmson or other; and admiring the ingenious craftsmanship of the repairs !. Saying " Blimey me coblers whoever did that was a genius !!!" . P.S, I say motorise your rotisorie . The Americans will have to have one too !.
Thanks for sharing yourself with us, Ivan!
This old guy (Ivan Dutton) and his helpers are amazing!
Talent that just doesn't exist any more.
What a treat and a fabulous story to share. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. Can wait to hear this beautiful piece of 100 year old engineering art fire up.
It is astonishingly advanced for the 1920s. - Bit of Vim on the sink would no go amiss. Millyard is amazing ! Handy lump of steel. Very entertaining.
So nice of you to mention Alan Millyard, another English eccentric genius.
Great video
Thanks for sharing
Such a sweet engine; enjoyed as always! All the best from Canada.
Glad you got the word out about this channel. Great stuff. I keep it on for hours at a time.
Beautiful Grand Prix Engine! Lewis Hamilton better look out!.
To make it more accurate valve timing if you use a depth gauge and put the piston 7 mm down the bore, then set the timing disc to Zero, then swing the piston down and up on the next stroke and again stop at 7mm before top dead centre. Now look at the degree disc and you can see the difference between the two reading say it was 20 degrees half it and use that value agains you timing pointer. This is far more accurate as crank can swing at TDC and piston movement is hard to assess. Love the show Ivan.
A neat engine and a fun instructional video. Thank you. I like to take pictures of my special tools and put them in a binder with labels.😉
Another top video
Thank you for sharing your expertise
Paul smith is a man of many talents he made my coat 😅
As always a great video. And an extra smile on my face when you mentioned The Chequered Flag. I remember looking through their window at their Chiswick showroom as a young lad with a grin on my face.
Every video is a little better than the last. I always like to hear the stories and the connected information. Thank you so much for sharing all of this with us and I can't wait to hear that engine run
Thanks for letting us spend an hour in your workshop Ivan and John.
That hour just flew by, great to watch you oh so knowledgeable chaps in the "Shed". Just on the head fragility, could you counterbore the head stud holes from the top and fit alloy crush tubes with coolant seal 'O' rings in the upper counterbore surface to bring the fastener pressure directly onto the inner top side of the head gasket surface, just a thought.
I wouldn't use alloy myself but I think I'd make from brass rod just a fraction longer than the height of the deck and seal with a large copper washer with sealant under it
What a really excellent way to spend an hour. It really is such therapy for petrolheads! I love the stories and yes, the engine is beautiful.
Thanks for a wonderful video. Wishing you, John, and Tanya a DELUXE day!
Love the shout out to Alan Millyard! Two legends
fabulous thank you so much Ivan john and Tanya for bring us all these wonderful videos
Genius bloody genius what a lovely motor you two are great engineers time for a book about you two thanks folks 👍👨🏻🏭
Fell asleep on a Sunday afternoon to wake up to this video. Sat and watched the whole lot very enjoyable. Thank you, and you have a new subscriber.
Brilliant hearing of your success in 73’
I love this channel
I really enjoy watching the fellows in the shed doing work. Tanya has made the viewing great with good lighting and smooth motions and tight focus, also the artwork in the intros are first rate. These shows remind me of Alan Milyard's work in his shed, I half expect to see the little clockwork bartender (can't remember his name just now) and grabbing a muffin. It's all so chummy and fun. Thank you all.
This is why I love the Amilcar, Particularly the C6 - DOHC and SUpercharged 1100cc 4 cylinder in the late 20s when even Overhead valve was yet to be a common thing in cars!
Brilliant, thanks for taking the trouble to make this, and pass on your knowledge.
Another excellent show, great sound, great video and such interesting content. I hope Allen sees this and enjoys the idea of chopping your engine up and adding extra cylinders.
That is a wonderful looking engine, nothing other than what is needed to make it function, but designed with an almost artistic eye. Can't wait to see it running.
most enjoyable. many thanks Ivan, John and Tanya 👍👍👍👍
Great video. Thank you Ivan, John and Tanya. One of the best yet. Plenty of cautionary advice for new players and … a beautiful twin cam engine to show for it!
This should be made into a TV program.just brilliant.
Great comedy interspersed with a bit of engine building.
Ivan for PM you have got my vote
Another great episode. I understand the need for excellent lighting, now Ime 70 I have so many LED lights in my workshop it nearly blinds younger folk, but I can’t see without them .😁
More solid gold from the shed. Absolutely marvellous. 👍
Good Afternoon Ivan. Thank You for sharing the history of the race engine. Your YT videos are informative and entertaining. From WLG NZ..
What an absolute gem of an engine. And again, the old-world mechanical prowess displayed by Ivan and John is a joy to behold. I suspect these gents could find an old rock in the field, take it to the shed, tinker with it a bit, and have it nicely ticking over within an hour. Blessings…
Every episode is priceless. Thank you for creating such an entertaining, insightful and educational channel.
I love the timing drive, more reliable than belts or chains. The old ohc aircraft engines were similar. Great video.
Absolutely fantastic. Tremendous video, a big thank you to all involved.
Top job, it's nice to hear the history of the development of the engine. I can't wait until I hear it running.
Proper engineering can’t beat it
beautiful twincam, very elegant design, crazy for 100 year old tech
Lovely looking engine.
Especially good to hear you appreciation for Paul Smith and his products. He also makes a lot of stuff for early bicycles. Excellent guy Paul and a talented engineer. Helped me out many times from correcting the value pockets on Dino pistons for which he made a fixture to oil gallery fittings for the Maserati.
Great video !
This would be an excellent hot rod engine, especially stuffed in an Austin 7 or Model Y Ford.
I like the little cast feet on the sump so it sits nicely on the bench! Fantastic film, thank you. I thought my Riley 9 engine was advanced for the time but they never quite made it to full overhead cam. Your practical approach to these cars is very inspirational. I have not much background in it (I've build an MGB, an Austin 7 and now the Riley 9 Brooklands replica) but seeing your pragmatic approach to things makes me confident I am doing things the right way. I assembled my Riley engine from bits and a lot of researching and reading and talking to people. Just being careful and understanding how and why things work the way they do means you can work most things out without being an 'expert'. So seeing what you do, and what people like Allen Millyard do (with a hacksaw!), helps inspire amateurs like me. I wish I could say I was a young amateur but I got started fairly late unfortunately.
Really enjoyed the video. I am a big fan of Allen Millyard too.
Great job you old boys are lovely for sure. Many thanks. keep them coming. Can wait to see it run.
Fabulous Ivan. Very much appreciated and enjoyed.
Wonderful stuff Ivan. Great history and technical content, John is a marvel too.
Best wishes, Dean.
Wonderful. You're teaching me a lot, Ivan.
Ivan you are right i struggle to see in dim light these days at 63 its a pain in the proverbial Stay safe
Such a beautiful little engine, really looking forward to seeing & hearing it run. I think my favorite part is the curved ends on the crankcase & head plus the brilliant yet simple shaft drive for the cams ... inverted valve buckets...its all so good but so clean & tidy
Brilliant, the way you do things the same as me, right up my street and I'm 84 next week. Keep up the good work.
Love your work Ivan , ? Do you still race . It would be good to see what projects your working on . I keep sharing your posts to my mates down here as they all think your a star one life’s caricatures . God bless. 🇦🇺👍
Looking forward to seeing you win something with that engine looks like a proper work of art.
that was a great insight on the twin cam head.. so I'm seeing the BDA & later Cosworth development of the KENT and on was really just building on the long tradition of "make it go hard & hold together".. what a legacy .. all the way to the F1's of today!
I love it when you point out the little things like the single port cast inlet into the head. Ford were still doing that with the six cylinder Falcon into the seventies. 🤣
I would absolutely mark all your specialty tools so the people behind you will know what they are for! That way others can use your knowledge!
Another excellent production. I can listen for hours and watch this type of "infomentary", once again thank you.
Just re-watching Monsieur Hulot's Holiday for the first time in 50+ years. I see at the beginning of the film, he is driving a Salmson AS-3 cycle car (1924?). I wonder what happened to it after the film, which was made in 1953.
Very enjoyable. Well done Tania.
Thank you ivan ,you're knowledge on how things come together and history is a joy to listen to cheers mate 👍
A really interesting video, looking forward to seeing it run. Allan Millyard is an absolute genius the greatest home engineer ever.
Converting a push rod engine into a twin ohc one remids me of what MG did with the BMC B series engine for the MGA twin cam.
You sir are amazing your shop is spot on and I draw inspiration from you A lot of people should be looking at your videos and drawing inspiration and seeing that just because you're this age or that age or whatever you should keep going regardless Don't let a number hold you back. That's what I'm learning here
Beautiful !! Love the narrow cam boxes. Go Ivan,,,
Agree with you about Allan
Oh I'd love to meet you Ivan if only I lived closer.
I'm heading south on an engine course would love to come and say hello
That engine is just a thing of beauty!
Great video
Another great Video! Look forward to your next one!
Absolutely fabulous video. The engineering on this engine is really interesting. Really looking forward to the next part 4.
Great video, Mr.Dutton. I see you smacked your left hand with an 'ammer!😬
Millyard is an absolute GENIUS!
For recovering pulled threads Time-Serts are really good, they are a bit like a Heli-Coil but a solid threaded sleeve internally and externally. You drill out the pulled thread hole larger, step the hole with a tool in the kit cut a thread in the larger hole and then using the installation tool and a small amount of oil wind in the Time-Sert, the collar on the top stops and locate in the step and you carry on winding the tool in which expands the Time-Sert so it is locked in position. Thread sizes might be and issue I know they do metric and US sizes. You will be impressed with the result. They do a double thickness insert if the threaded hole has pulled and then elongated. It no stronger than a Heli-Coil but a far more professional result and will withstand assembly and disassembly better. Pulled spark plug holes also catered for. The double diameter one is stronger than a Heli-Coil. I saw a guy testing them on the Web. I have used them and fantastic result. A friend used them all the time, when threads on his alloy two stroke racing engine cylinder head bolts pulled.
John could do with being miked. I can't fathom why the block is black, why is that ? Tanya does a great job behind the camera. Great video, thank you.
One of the most enjoyable sites, always eagerly waiting for next video. Mick
And that engine is really super cool looking. I hope it runs awesome or like you Brits like to say it's brilliant
Thank you Ivan . Im an Ivan also. + 80 yrs.
You are dead right Ivan that is a really pretty engine. The upside down cam buckets was a brilliant idea to keep the slim dimensions of the cam box and that's the main reason it looks so nice, as it's not top heavy looking. Lovely job by everyone involved. Paul Smith is a very, very talented engineer. His parts are superbly made, you can tell that by looking at one of his new cam buckets. In machining terms that's a bloody work of art.( unless it was done in a CNC mill of course!) but I suspect they are turned on an engine lathe then milled. And you are correct about Allan Milliard, his cutting and shutting motorcycle engines are complete works of art when finished and could and should be in museums. And ithat low friction oil he recommends , well if he says it's good you can believe it. By the way Ivan, have you seen his V10 Dodge Viper engined bike he built? Now that's some machine! But to think those Salmson twin cam engines were made over 100 years ago is mind blowing, when you think back to the early days of say the first Lotus twin cams and everyone thought what a good idea! So new! Now we know different! Can't wait to see and hear your new engine running. Great episode Ivan and John, and Tanya.
I fear the day all this experience, all this knowledge will be lost, like tears in the rain. (inspired by Roy, Blade Runner)
Ivan
Did you meet or know Lord Montague's son in England during the late '50 or early '60? He and his father used to be keen car collectors. I'm asking you because we went to the same school in Wiltshire.
By the way your videos are excellent!
I was looking at some pictures of this engine and came across one which had twin SU carburetors. Obviously the cylinder head must have been modified but I couldn't see enough detail of what had been done. Between them I could see a blanking plate covering the original intake. Sounds like a job for Allen Millyard.
Wonderful ❤️👍
Awesome. Always good to see your videos popping up.
If I missed a previous explanation please point me to the answer ...
How do 4 pushrods open 8 valves ?
What a great video again! Could you make a video where you tell John's history a bit. It would be interesting to hear a little about him as well. If I understand correctly, Ivan and John have a long history together. Great guys, both of them!
Just subscribed new to the channel. It's a pleasure watching a master at work 👍
Such a great vid. Loved every minute of it.
Wounderful ❤️👍
Very interesting. This is how the camshaft timing is set on the Porsche 911 engine. A certain amount of lift on the dial indicator and then the pin locked the cam to the timing gear chain sprocket, then the huge cam nut on top, tighten with a special tool that I had to buy myself.
Ripper Vid by all.. appreciate the chat and the history
You are correct Ivan the engine is a cracker....
Comments about Allen Millyard, so funny!