No doubt about it Ivan, you are in a "master class" with your engine and vehicle building skills. I also applaud your ability to refurbish and re use the original parts, I think 99% of it is knowing what you can get by with, what works and what doesn't. Thanks for letting us spend another great session with you in the "Shed".
It’s a lesson on the implications of owning one of these cars. Even if you have the same facilities, without the “knowledge” doing damage or spending big money unnecessarily is a virtual certainty.
I was going to post a comment very similar to yours, so I'll just tag on here. These videos are so refreshing as they illustrate the knowing ways of repairing versus replacing parts. Filing that cam, porting out those cylinder block holes and adding a washer, real tech work instead of throw it away. In the case of these engines, I'd say either make it work or else, not many new parts out there. I worked for a Caterpillar equipment dealership for 42 years, and some of our customers could show us a thing or two about this very subject.
Magician! What a master of your craft. I watch your videos for inspiration for my own resto projects. I hope someday to have even 20% of your vast knowledge. If there's anyone in England who should be a Sir, it is you!
Oh my. It is fun and a bit of an education to watch these shows. I worked for a Caterpillar dealership for 42 years, and I’ve had a few experiences in dealing with people who could make repairs and understood engineering as opposed to “parts replacers”. But listening to Ivan explain in such down to earth terms, just very good and interesting.
Credit due to Ivan , a very knowledgeable man in his own right who openly shares his hard earned experience freely to us but also "dips his lid" to the fellows who came up with the new balancer design and the overdrive unit .True Gentleman .
Every beginning mechanic and those interested in mechanics should watch these lectures by Ivan Dutton's uncle about old car engines and tricks! This Ivan is a miracle man!!
What a top bloke Ivan is, with proper Engineering skills! - repair not replace. Very few people can look at an Engineering job and decide what will definitely work on an old component - Ivan is one of those rare people - a privilege to watch 👌👍
Ivan, I wish you all the success in the world as a UA-cam influencer!! For once, something worthwhile. I cannot think of anyone whose tips or advice I would listen to more keenly. Thanks for another really enjoyable episode.
Ivan and John are tremendous blokes and have some mad skills with these engines. I like the way they make do with what they have and modify when necessary without having to buy everything new. Thanks for the tips as they are quite valuable.
Ivan you must write a book! Please, it would be so interesting! Filled with all your race history and ideas! I learn something new every time I watch! Already looking forward to the next video!🙂 God bless!
LOVE the chat and a real engineer parting with some tuning tips Thanks Ivan and Suzie Camera Lady not forgetting John coming up fast on the inside Thank you All .
Hi Ivan I agree, people do scrap parts very quickly, where often a little educated, careful and sensible fettling can make them perfectly serviceable. With parts of the vintage and history you're dealing with, it has to be the best route to go. Good luck with the rest of the Bugatti engine, I'll be watching closely with great interest. 😊
You know, now a Bugatti is kinda out of most peoples range, but as a kid - one of the first model cars my Parents gave me, was an Auburn Roadster with all the flexible steel exhaust pipes coming out the side in Cream. I hope to make that one a reality! Btw, I would LOVE to see footage of Ivan "driving like a looney" just for the record 😅
So glad i found this clever fella again, more knowledge and skill in his little finger than the entirety of tiktok or whatever it's called huge thanks to you all for filming and uploading these absolute gems!
Wonderful video Tanya and Ivan , who else on the planet would have all that knowledge.!!! I can’t wait to see the episode on the body and the finished product. 👍to John who just keeps working away quietly in the background
Ivan please do your best to pass on your knowledge to everyone who will listen . Hands on precision engineering. No computers. An I bet you can work to within a thousandth of and inch by eye 😊
Great video, Ivan! It would also be really interesting to add a little more input from John, if possible. Maybe a few minutes in these technical videos about what he's working on with details about the machining aspects, etc.
Be sure to use an engine oil with a high zinc content Ivan (ZDDP) which is an anti scuffing additive mainly developed for non roller cams like that Bugatti and I would never use any kind of synthetic oil but either a monograde 40 grade mineral oil or a 20W50 mineral multigrade oil, Millers 'Classic' 20W50 High Zinc would be a good choice. Another great show, thank you my friend and keep them coming! Roland, HT Racing Ltd
Back when they made that engine there was no ZDDP or any other oil additive, it was just straight mineral oil or (if you were racing) castor oil. The whole insufficient ZDDP thing seems to mostly affect American V-8s which have pushrods. I suspect this is mostly because they need very heavy valve springs to maintain control of the valve at high RPM (especially if they've been souped up) and the cam lobes are basically splash lubricated.
If it takes a long time to feed the valve gear on start-up, it would be a good idea to fit an electric pump to feed oil upstairs before firing up, or an Accusump
Great video ,Ivan. Really enjoyed it. (Thankfully), the case hardening is deep on that cam,& followers. i have gotten away with alot on older british made engines, ,"refacing" rocker arms, with good results. New parts? forget it,,,,,,DUBS,,,,
Many thanks for a super video a bit of engineering knowledge goes a long way. I was a bit concerned that your flat jawed vice had no soft jaws but proof of the pudding is in the eating. Re the cloth couplings I found that a hardy spicer coupling reduced the vibration tremendously and if your aluminium plate is suffering corrosion attack anodise the thing. Finally bear with me, when you file circular bits, rock the file, for me it gives a more circular finish. It is always a delight to watch your videos…
That Grand Sport body is much nicer than the very staid-looking Harrison saloon. I like the two door set up with the passenger side mounted spare (rather than the usual drivers side).
Your videos are always interesting. I would like to see more about your Lotus, I have a series one. It originally had the side valve Ford, it now has a 948cc BMC with the rib case transmission.
what a terrific video cant wait to hear it running , the overdrive looks like a Laycock but what's the different sump all about on it , is that cause its running in its own oil and not shared like normal with the gearbox ?, keep em coming
Ivan, Thomas Lovejoy was the chap those couplings are called after. He started Lovejoy Inc. in the very early 1900s. The company history says that he purchased the patent for that jaw coupling though, so it sounds like he was not the inventor. I think the company has always been in Illinois.
Pretty sure you have more than one fan. I think because you started without a ton of cash and probably grew up during 'make do and mend' era you have a different attitude to many other restorers who just overpay someone else to do everything. (particularly in America) Being British, you know all about how the 'class' system was divided, even in 1970's, if you didn't have the contacts you were going nowhere. I wanted to race motorcycles but had to rely on people with a van or trailer, less than ideal situation (didn't make enough money to have car/trailer and race) Even the shop I worked for refused any sponsorship because they were 'Road Race ' not scramblers. Whatever, it was still fun while it lasted
With the cam follower problem you can simply clean them up, then re case harden them, a very simple thing to do, cleaning them up like this has gone through the .030" thick hardened surface and they will wear rapidly. Chris B.
@@phillipembury2271 Yes but the cam was already worn to half that depth, I can assure you that having "smoothed " the bumps out of the cam profile almost all of the case hardening has been removed, this will result in very rapid wear. Chris B.
@@shed_racing From experiment I have found that .030" is about the maximum thickness you can achieve, and the cam followers were obviously worn to at least that depth, not sure about the cams, but they did have wear, I know you are not going to be covering 10,000 miles a year, but while you have the cam followers on the bench it would be easy to re case harden them back to as new, the test of course would be to use your Vickers hardness tester on them, Stay safe! Chris B.
Regardless of the dialogue here,I do have a question here. How would YOU go about case hardening items such cam and followers ? On these old parts ? I am told the current formula in modern Casenit is nowhere near as good as the original stuff. Go back to oh,1905 era with powdered hardwood charcoal in an airtight box? Obtaining the likes of boxes of cyanide,readily available a hundred years ago,is just not on these days. Nice idea,but how ?
Just a little comment on the cush drive bushes, why don't you have some made out of polyurethane shore hardness 90A 👍 Note polyurethane tends to be a little more durable than rubber
I think copper would be better too - but no-one makes them and it would be a drama to get them made - there are a lot of holes in them -and they need to be in the dead right place
@@shed_racing Do you do anything to isolate the plate from the steel parts? In boats we have a major problem with galvanic corrosion, especially with the pop rivets that are used to attach fittings to the mast and so forth. The solution is usually to use rivets made from monel rather than stainless steel, and to coat the hole in an isolating compound like duralac before installing the rivet.
An interesting video showing some old fashioned engineering. A one off about a Bugatti obviously only has limited interest because hardly any of your viewers could possibly afford one. Most of us know virtually nothing about those engines so it would have been nice to have had a description of it.
I (and many others I bet) would love to see Ivan introduce Tanya, the camera woman. I wonder if she's a "car girl", and if not, has any of this Bugatti shop talk from the Master rubbed off on her after all these videos?
If you take 5 thou off the cam, and another 5 thou off each side of the rocker, that's 15 thou! Does the Bugatti use shims? What's the story of the green Sprite??
No doubt about it Ivan, you are in a "master class" with your engine and vehicle building skills. I also applaud your ability to refurbish and re use the original parts, I think 99% of it is knowing what you can get by with, what works and what doesn't. Thanks for letting us spend another great session with you in the "Shed".
It’s a lesson on the implications of owning one of these cars. Even if you have the same facilities, without the “knowledge” doing damage or spending big money unnecessarily is a virtual certainty.
I was going to post a comment very similar to yours, so I'll just tag on here. These videos are so refreshing as they illustrate the knowing ways of repairing versus replacing parts. Filing that cam, porting out those cylinder block holes and adding a washer, real tech work instead of throw it away. In the case of these engines, I'd say either make it work or else, not many new parts out there. I worked for a Caterpillar equipment dealership for 42 years, and some of our customers could show us a thing or two about this very subject.
Magician! What a master of your craft. I watch your videos for inspiration for my own resto projects.
I hope someday to have even 20% of your vast knowledge.
If there's anyone in England who should be a Sir, it is you!
I'll second all of the below. I'm a bit obsessed with this channel. Can you imagine having a teacher like this in your school days?
Oh my. It is fun and a bit of an education to watch these shows. I worked for a Caterpillar dealership for 42 years, and I’ve had a few experiences in dealing with people who could make repairs and understood engineering as opposed to “parts replacers”. But listening to Ivan explain in such down to earth terms, just very good and interesting.
A true Engineer great work Ivan
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you, Ivan and staff. Fantastic.
Credit due to Ivan , a very knowledgeable man in his own right who openly shares his hard earned experience freely to us but also "dips his lid" to the fellows who came up with the new balancer design and the overdrive unit .True Gentleman .
Every beginning mechanic and those interested in mechanics should watch these lectures by Ivan Dutton's uncle about old car engines and tricks! This Ivan is a miracle man!!
What a top bloke Ivan is, with proper Engineering skills! - repair not replace. Very few people can look at an Engineering job and decide what will definitely work on an old component - Ivan is one of those rare people - a privilege to watch 👌👍
Bodge it and scarper Ivan, leaving the rest standing. Proper motor engineering is a joy to watch.
Ivan, I wish you all the success in the world as a UA-cam influencer!! For once, something worthwhile.
I cannot think of anyone whose tips or advice I would listen to more keenly.
Thanks for another really enjoyable episode.
Amazing stuff Ivan. Lovely to watch and learn from an old school mechanic rather than a fitter….
we need more influencer's like you Ivan :-) as always bloody fantastic
"He woke up in an Old Bugatti"¡
Another master class from ‘Grand Master’ Ivan! Thank you.
Ivan and John are tremendous blokes and have some mad skills with these engines. I like the way they make do with what they have and modify when necessary without having to buy everything new. Thanks for the tips as they are quite valuable.
Ivan you must write a book! Please, it would be so interesting! Filled with all your race history and ideas! I learn something new every time I watch! Already looking forward to the next video!🙂 God bless!
LOVE the chat and a real engineer parting with some tuning tips Thanks Ivan and Suzie Camera Lady not forgetting John coming up fast on the inside Thank you All .
Don't worry Ivan, all who watch your vids end up under the influence! Great episode, looking forward to see you ripping up the road in the Bugatti.
Congratulations to all of you on the site achieving twenty thousand subscribers.
Hi Ivan
I agree, people do scrap parts very quickly, where often a little educated, careful and sensible fettling can make them perfectly serviceable. With parts of the vintage and history you're dealing with, it has to be the best route to go.
Good luck with the rest of the Bugatti engine, I'll be watching closely with great interest. 😊
Always good to see you and John, Ivan. Great fun with Suzie's new toy. Hello to Tania too.
Best wishes, Dean.
Have not seen anyone work on roof covers yet ,this is a first for me, can't wait, cheers mate 👍
Mr Ivan, your videos are always informative, and a laugh at the same time.
Those Bugatti engines are marvelous. What I wouldn't give to own one. Well, maybe not quite what they are going for thesedays. :-)
You know, now a Bugatti is kinda out of most peoples range, but as a kid - one of the first model cars my Parents gave me, was an Auburn Roadster with all the flexible steel exhaust pipes coming out the side in Cream. I hope to make that one a reality! Btw, I would LOVE to see footage of Ivan "driving like a looney" just for the record 😅
Look back on some of his previous videos and watch him drive a number of cars especially the mini like a race driver.
So glad i found this clever fella again, more knowledge and skill in his little finger than the entirety of tiktok or whatever it's called
huge thanks to you all for filming and uploading these absolute gems!
Another great video, great stuff Ivan and you are still the Bugatti master 👍.
Making do is a way of life in my shed. Cheers Ivan
Nice photo of some Morgan 3 wheelers above your bench there!
I doth my cap to this gentleman's knowledge.
Doth thou indeed doff thy cranium cover?
Great work Ivan, years of experience can't be done in an apprenticeship
Ivan you Influence us to watch you and very practical ways of solving problems
Amazing stuff as always. A real inspiration and living the dream.
Brilliant Vid Ivan.. such great content, motoring history in so many ways
I'm looking forward to your restoration of this fine car thanks 😊
very good practical knowledge ivan , thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Ivan, very interesting and down to earth basic knowledge, a master class.
Wonderful video Tanya and Ivan , who else on the planet would have all that knowledge.!!! I can’t wait to see the episode on the body and the finished product. 👍to John who just keeps working away quietly in the background
Ivan please do your best to pass on your knowledge to everyone who will listen . Hands on precision engineering. No computers. An I bet you can work to within a thousandth of and inch by eye 😊
Always a total delight as well as very informative about the Bugatti engine. Much appreciated.
Great video, Ivan! It would also be really interesting to add a little more input from John, if possible. Maybe a few minutes in these technical videos about what he's working on with details about the machining aspects, etc.
John likes to keep working, not as chatty as me
Wonderful as usual. Great to see fitting techniques still in good use and considered thought on what to do.
Lovejoy Coupling - Lovejoy is a trade name associated with Timken
Good one Ivan! Yeh I swear by my set of diamond files as well when working on my motorbikes!
Friday treat :) Good to see you all hard at it.
Always an education. Love it ! Many thanks. Cheers
Be sure to use an engine oil with a high zinc content Ivan (ZDDP) which is an anti scuffing additive mainly developed for non roller cams like that Bugatti and I would never use any kind of synthetic oil but either a monograde 40 grade mineral oil or a 20W50 mineral multigrade oil, Millers 'Classic' 20W50 High Zinc would be a good choice. Another great show, thank you my friend and keep them coming! Roland, HT Racing Ltd
A nice drop of Duckham's 20/50 green oil lol
Back when they made that engine there was no ZDDP or any other oil additive, it was just straight mineral oil or (if you were racing) castor oil.
The whole insufficient ZDDP thing seems to mostly affect American V-8s which have pushrods. I suspect this is mostly because they need very heavy valve springs to maintain control of the valve at high RPM (especially if they've been souped up) and the cam lobes are basically splash lubricated.
Good show mate.
hi good times Ivan nice job coming on see you next time cheers
Super content thanks for sharing !
Fabulous video Ivan.
If it takes a long time to feed the valve gear on start-up, it would be a good idea to fit an electric pump to feed oil upstairs before firing up, or an Accusump
you're quite right and I've definitely given it some thought
Great video ,Ivan. Really enjoyed it. (Thankfully), the case hardening is deep on that cam,& followers. i have gotten away with alot on older british made engines, ,"refacing" rocker arms, with good results. New parts? forget it,,,,,,DUBS,,,,
Thank you!
Many thanks for a super video a bit of engineering knowledge goes a long way. I was a bit concerned that your flat jawed vice had no soft jaws but proof of the pudding is in the eating. Re the cloth couplings I found that a hardy spicer coupling reduced the vibration tremendously and if your aluminium plate is suffering corrosion attack anodise the thing. Finally bear with me, when you file circular bits, rock the file, for me it gives a more circular finish. It is always a delight to watch your videos…
Ivan a true MECHANIC ENGINEER not at all like modern mechanics that call themselves engineers and can only fit complete new parts
Very surprised when you popped that filter out of the Bugatti housing, “Well that looks familiar.”
Yes well done Ivan, I love the book idea but... These are magic mate, thank you... Yes I've told my Dad about it he he
That Grand Sport body is much nicer than the very staid-looking Harrison saloon. I like the two door set up with the passenger side mounted spare (rather than the usual drivers side).
Your videos are always interesting. I would like to see more about your Lotus, I have a series one. It originally had the side valve Ford, it now has a 948cc BMC with the rib case transmission.
Ivan, its always a pleaser watching your vids, your good fun, and so interesting
Brilliant video, when’s the next? Love to know more about building a Bug engine - even though I’ll never own one
I bet you are clever too! What it is to have knowledge on a subject. Legend!
what a terrific video cant wait to hear it running , the overdrive looks like a Laycock but what's the different sump all about on it , is that cause its running in its own oil and not shared like normal with the gearbox ?, keep em coming
yes separate oil
Absolutely brilliant stuff thanks bigly
Magic 👍🏻
Very interesting, thanks you
Hi Ivan your giving to many secrets away
the thing is I do give my secrets away, but half the time, people don't believe me!
Ivan your like a dad to everybody big thumbs up@@shed_racing
Masterclass!
This is why I subscribe. Thank you!
Ivan, Thomas Lovejoy was the chap those couplings are called after. He started Lovejoy Inc. in the very early 1900s. The company history says that he purchased the patent for that jaw coupling though, so it sounds like he was not the inventor. I think the company has always been in Illinois.
A good one
As always the devil is in the detail , great video thanks .
I love this channel and had to sub.
A VERY INTERESTING VIDEO
thank you fore your expierence sir i have vintage velocette so your talks are ess 18:05 essential vieuing.
I have lovejoy shocks on my 1929 Dodge!
Pretty sure you have more than one fan.
I think because you started without a ton of cash and probably grew up during 'make do and mend' era you have a different attitude to many other restorers who just overpay someone else to do everything. (particularly in America)
Being British, you know all about how the 'class' system was divided, even in 1970's, if you didn't have the contacts you were going nowhere.
I wanted to race motorcycles but had to rely on people with a van or trailer, less than ideal situation (didn't make enough money to have car/trailer and race)
Even the shop I worked for refused any sponsorship because they were 'Road Race ' not scramblers.
Whatever, it was still fun while it lasted
I soo very very much would like to "like" this wonderful engine video and this lovely man . But i am just horrified🥶
Brill, as ever.
👍👍👍👍👍
With the cam follower problem you can simply clean them up, then re case harden them, a very simple thing to do, cleaning them up like this has gone through the .030" thick hardened surface and they will wear rapidly. Chris B.
0.030" is nearly 0.8mm. Ivan didn't take anywhere near that amount of material off them.
@@phillipembury2271 Yes but the cam was already worn to half that depth, I can assure you that having "smoothed " the bumps out of the cam profile almost all of the case hardening has been removed, this will result in very rapid wear. Chris B.
@@453421abcdefg12345 I totally disagree - the cam hardening was still there - I think Bugatti had a thick hardened layer to start
@@shed_racing From experiment I have found that .030" is about the maximum thickness you can achieve, and the cam followers were obviously worn to at least that depth, not sure about the cams, but they did have wear, I know you are not going to be covering 10,000 miles a year, but while you have the cam followers on the bench it would be easy to re case harden them back to as new, the test of course would be to use your Vickers hardness tester on them, Stay safe! Chris B.
Regardless of the dialogue here,I do have a question here. How would YOU go about case hardening items such cam and followers ? On these old parts ? I am told the current formula in modern Casenit is nowhere near as good as the original stuff. Go back to oh,1905 era with powdered hardwood charcoal in an airtight box? Obtaining the likes of boxes of cyanide,readily available a hundred years ago,is just not on these days.
Nice idea,but how ?
Just looking at vid at 36.41 the valve spring ivan has his fingers on, is there a valve retaining clip missing?
the clip was in -but there isn't much pre-load on the spring
Is that a mk1 frogeye I see? Have been working on same for past year!
yes that's right, I've also got a Sebring, which I'm dying to get working on
Thank you Ivan, this is just the sort of content that makes you a super star!!!!, see you at Beaulieu
Ivan, what's the name of the emery cloth?
will have to check
I've been using diamond flies ever since i came across a diamond kitchen knife steel.
Just a little comment on the cush drive bushes, why don't you have some made out of polyurethane shore hardness 90A 👍
Note polyurethane tends to be a little more durable than rubber
Fascinating stuff Ivan. How come that head plate is aluminium? Wouldn't copper be better..obviously not, but why.
I think copper would be better too - but no-one makes them and it would be a drama to get them made - there are a lot of holes in them -and they need to be in the dead right place
@shed_racing Ah! Much as I thought. I'm bloody amazed someone still makes them...or new old stock maybe.
galvanic corrosion with Aluminum
@@shed_racing Do you do anything to isolate the plate from the steel parts? In boats we have a major problem with galvanic corrosion, especially with the pop rivets that are used to attach fittings to the mast and so forth. The solution is usually to use rivets made from monel rather than stainless steel, and to coat the hole in an isolating compound like duralac before installing the rivet.
if anything it'll hold a bit of oil - brilliant
An interesting video showing some old fashioned engineering. A one off about a Bugatti obviously only has limited interest because hardly any of your viewers could possibly afford one. Most of us know virtually nothing about those engines so it would have been nice to have had a description of it.
I (and many others I bet) would love to see Ivan introduce Tanya, the camera woman. I wonder if she's a "car girl", and if not, has any of this Bugatti shop talk from the Master rubbed off on her after all these videos?
It’s in there like a nutter
Lovejoy coupling 😂😂👍🏻 it’s a bleeding Cush drive.
you're right
If you take 5 thou off the cam, and another 5 thou off each side of the rocker, that's 15 thou! Does the Bugatti use shims? What's the story of the green Sprite??
👍🇦🇺
Are you sure its emery... looks a bit like superfinish tape.. very expensive.
First ! Thanks
Doesn't look like the filter woulď work
Can't John sort your tooth . You seem to have suitable tools.
Tools aren’t the issue - need to combat the infection, which requires medication. Is all in hand - the dentist is looking after him
Anyone playing the shed racing "Anyway" drinking game?
Can you imagine him meeting Jay Leno ?
He already has a few times.
Yes he has been to the farm and I've been to his place....
who is this chap?