Bruh light had powers such a yhe deathnote and he is no where near Johan in fact Johan would speak to light and then light wpuld write hes own name in the deathnote 😂Johan is the best manipulator imo
@@klaus_Poppe-ZZ johan can manipulate Ayanokoji Le his fan: "but.. But the light novel🤓 Dude I didn't read ln but I've watched Monster and cote. And I can say that Johan is far better than Ayanokoji 😂😂
@@Pratik_9154 W johan is far ahead of ayanokoji also the cote’s writer doesnt know shit about creating anime koji has has the most unrealistic feats ever like deafeating multiple adult pro martial artist at once when he was little and deafeating a literal fuckin supercomputer in chess when he was a kid like wtf
@@elite69 We can have the debate here. However, before going into further matters, let us have each other's take so that no confusion arises during the actual debate. In terms of outsmarting: Koji>Light (high difficulty). Koji takes FSIQ, all the compositions of EQ, AQ, strategy, knowledge, implementing knowledge into action, potential, etc. I might give planning charisma and a few compositions of SQ, including leadership. In terms of character writing: Light>Koji (mid-high difficulty). Here's my point distribution: Introduction: Light Backstory: Koji Themes: Light main dynamic: Light Depth: Light Complexity: Light Goals: Light Motives: Koji Overall Dynamics and Interactions: Koji Complexity of motivation: Koji psychology: Light Philosophy: Light Symbolism: Light It does look like a one-sided matchup, but some of the points are really close. It's just that, as a character, Light has a superior story that is gripping to its own extent. I will give reasoning for each of the points once you ask for it. So what's your take, and then we can proceed with the debate? Reply to it whenever you get time.
@@MR_NOBODY61 I actually agree with all the aspects you said. And now I think the debate would not make sense. Because Light has actually some Insane feats. The only problem is sometimes I can't give him much respect because of the blunder he made in the last. How couldn't think of a backup plan ? Only an evil laugh ( evilest laugh in anime history ) can't make him win a fight. If there was Ayanokoji, he must have made a plan. And if it also doesn't work then , he would use the ultimate weapon ( his body ).
The manipulation difference is very big...johann laughs and make a warm smile while manipulating other or intimidate them...whereas ayonokoji has the same face in every moment...i dont know how can anyone befriend him thinking he will be a warm friend to them😂
1. I don't have any idea about Joe Yabuki. I have read Vagabond, but I haven't finished it. Mushashi is in my top 10 favourite characters. 2. Grimmer>= Lunge> Martin 3. I haven't watched Gintama and Gintoki isn't the kind of protagonist that I want to see. For me Musashi> 4. Johan>> Joker I don't know about the comics, though.
@@MR_NOBODY61 I also haven't read ashita no joe . Just asked because your takes are W and would have helped deciding me whether to give a try or not. Also, I agree with 2nd one but Martin still very underrated. Bro just appeared for like 3 eps and is better written than 99 percent of shounen . Also, keep up the good work.
@@Ahmed07O71 Well, Martin is an underrated character, but the problem is compare to the other two he didn't actually have any impact on the plot and story. He was necessary for Eva's redemption, that's it. Grimmer and Lunge have a lot of impact in the story. I don't think I would do any more writing debate edits. Thank you for watching
@@MR_NOBODY61bro no way you said Musahi better than gintoki he is the goat character for me the no.1 protagonist gintama is a peak anime you should try then decide
"light's victim"😂😂 i agree fr
Though i have johan winning low-mid diff, but still W editing skills you killed it
Fair opinion bro, I agree. Light is Eren's victim
@@MR_NOBODY61bro u should never say that.bcz eren has so many haters.many people even say gon,light,>>eren😂
@@MR_NOBODY61what are u talking about u like eren more so u r saying eren better than light let me fix it ayanokoji >light>eren
Bruh light had powers such a yhe deathnote and he is no where near Johan in fact Johan would speak to light and then light wpuld write hes own name in the deathnote 😂Johan is the best manipulator imo
Johan is far better
Ayanokoji : you can't manipulate me Johan.
Johan : anyway Ayanokoji, wanna youghurt?
youtr the man dude you even read the LN and monster but still didn’t meatride koji🗿
@@klaus_Poppe-ZZ johan can manipulate Ayanokoji
Le his fan: "but.. But the light novel🤓
Dude I didn't read ln but I've watched Monster and cote. And I can say that Johan is far better than Ayanokoji 😂😂
@@Pratik_9154 W johan is far ahead of ayanokoji also the cote’s writer doesnt know shit about creating anime koji has has the most unrealistic feats ever like deafeating multiple adult pro martial artist at once when he was little and deafeating a literal fuckin supercomputer in chess when he was a kid like wtf
@@klaus_Poppe-ZZ yes really 🤣🤣
I wonder how a kid, a little kid becomes able to beat the adult martial artists!!
How is this even possible dude🤣
Franz Bonaparta entering the chat☠️☠️
much worse💀💀
RIP...WOLF GANG GRIMMER.... 😭😭😭😭
Liebert solos no concept of diff
Edit is fire btw🔥🔥🔥
That's true
@@MR_NOBODY61 Goated new pfp btw,I am working on new one also.
@@SH-Edits-Holmes Thank you, and it seems like you are a fan of sherlock, great.
@@MR_NOBODY61 I grew up reading novels about him.
And now I am making pfp,where I will put him with tenma and johan😉
@@SH-Edits-Holmes That's interesting
Everything is fair except the Light Victim
@@elite69 In outsmarting, Koji gaps. But in terms of character, Light is just way better.
I will explain this in concrete way if you want me to. Probably be a long essay on why Light is better.
@@MR_NOBODY61 We can have a good debate on this. Just lack of time is the main problem. And I think we both can manage sometimes
@@elite69 We can have the debate here.
However, before going into further matters, let us have each other's take so that no confusion arises during the actual debate.
In terms of outsmarting:
Koji>Light (high difficulty).
Koji takes FSIQ, all the compositions of EQ, AQ, strategy, knowledge, implementing knowledge into action, potential, etc. I might give planning charisma and a few compositions of SQ, including leadership.
In terms of character writing:
Light>Koji (mid-high difficulty).
Here's my point distribution:
Introduction: Light
Backstory: Koji
Themes: Light
main dynamic: Light
Depth: Light
Complexity: Light
Goals: Light
Motives: Koji
Overall Dynamics and Interactions: Koji
Complexity of motivation: Koji
psychology: Light
Philosophy: Light
Symbolism: Light
It does look like a one-sided matchup, but some of the points are really close. It's just that, as a character, Light has a superior story that is gripping to its own extent. I will give reasoning for each of the points once you ask for it. So what's your take, and then we can proceed with the debate? Reply to it whenever you get time.
@@MR_NOBODY61 I actually agree with all the aspects you said. And now I think the debate would not make sense. Because Light has actually some Insane feats. The only problem is sometimes I can't give him much respect because of the blunder he made in the last. How couldn't think of a backup plan ? Only an evil laugh ( evilest laugh in anime history ) can't make him win a fight.
If there was Ayanokoji, he must have made a plan. And if it also doesn't work then , he would use the ultimate weapon ( his body ).
The Monster cannot manipulate a emotionless monster
Nope he will just kill the emotion less monster 😂😂
He did. Roberto was controlled by him.
@@Spike-x4koh man Roberto is a beast 🗿
@@kanishkamandrawal9825 exactly
No one can manipulate someone who doesn't exist☠️
W+ Overkill
The manipulation difference is very big...johann laughs and make a warm smile while manipulating other or intimidate them...whereas ayonokoji has the same face in every moment...i dont know how can anyone befriend him thinking he will be a warm friend to them😂
Song?? Great job btw! Always look forward to seeing your edits
Song - My Ordinary Life x I got no time
Thank you bro, it seems like, we both are enthusiast towards the Monster anime. I will bring the best results from the ideas that I have:)
Wayyy overkill
Joe Yabuki vs Musashi.
Martin vs Grimmer vs Lounge
Gintoki vs Musashi
Johan vs Joker
Your opinion
1. I don't have any idea about Joe Yabuki. I have read Vagabond, but I haven't finished it. Mushashi is in my top 10 favourite characters.
2. Grimmer>= Lunge> Martin
3. I haven't watched Gintama and Gintoki isn't the kind of protagonist that I want to see. For me Musashi>
4. Johan>> Joker
I don't know about the comics, though.
@@MR_NOBODY61 I also haven't read ashita no joe . Just asked because your takes are W and would have helped deciding me whether to give a try or not.
Also, I agree with 2nd one but Martin still very underrated. Bro just appeared for like 3 eps and is better written than 99 percent of shounen .
Also, keep up the good work.
@@Ahmed07O71 Well, Martin is an underrated character, but the problem is compare to the other two he didn't actually have any impact on the plot and story. He was necessary for Eva's redemption, that's it. Grimmer and Lunge have a lot of impact in the story. I don't think I would do any more writing debate edits. Thank you for watching
@@MR_NOBODY61bro no way you said Musahi better than gintoki he is the goat character for me the no.1 protagonist gintama is a peak anime you should try then decide
edit is good but light's victim caught my attention
Light is Eren's victim
every character is eren's victim and eren is johan's victim that means johan is the owner of anime world
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@@conqueror_97 Can't agree more👻
@@MR_NOBODY61me aswell
@@conqueror_97 conqueror_97>>>> Eren Yeager
How can a man compare a monster to a fodder .
Johan neg diffs entire COTE in writing
So, you are binge watching my edits, thanks.
@@MR_NOBODY61 Lol just subscribed btw,great content 👍
Any character from monster's writing>>>>> cote verse
I just noticed that this guy's channel only focuses on johan Liebert vs Ayanokouji edits 😅
I have only made two Johan Liebert vs Ayanokoji edits, one for power scaling and this one as a writing debate.
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Koji is definitely light victim
Although the diff is a bit higher imo
In truth, Ayanokoji is Dieter's victim.
Johan negs diff koji is deku victim
Huge W, light and Johan are koji victimizers in everything
Great use of the word victimizer.
Пожалуста можно уильям жеймс мориарти против йохана
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Johan 🔥
One side match
johan solo cote 😂😂
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Fax
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Yes?
@@MR_NOBODY61 Overkill, Eva is enough🥱