Ayanokoji vs Johan Liebert - Full Scale Battle + All possibilities
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Even if I love Johan, I can't agree more than this. Johan is smarter in manipulation, influencing, and planning. However, if this is a full scale battle with Ayanokoji having the upper hand at this one where Johan isn't given much advantages to make things more fair then obviously Ayanokoji can win. That's all to it.
Fax, johan fans really didn't see this 😮💨
@@Sussyboeimpastah I'm a Johan fan and I can accept that Ayanokoji can beat Johan if he has advantages. Like, in a real life situation obviously Johan wins because of his intellect to manipulate others and kill Ayanokoji with guns but c'mon, in this fight Ayanokoji has the upper-hand here.
I'm still tired of Johan fans not being able to see this. Sure, just because Johan is better than Ayanokoji as a character doesn't mean he beats Ayanokoji in a fight.
That’s the truth🫡
@@安妮亞-x7d wake up t realiy johan > all u say
@@justicerp574 Wake up to reality Yuuichi>>>Johan
A lot of people forget that Johan would not beat Ayanokoji in outsmarting in a real life situation without his influence and if they both started from scratch.
Mega fax
Bro influence is legit one of the most important thing irl 💀 you can take tenma for eg coz of his influence many peeps supported him and even hired a lawyer to get him out
@@i7arus did you not read what he wrote? Read again
@@dcmelhor5846 read again
@@Etheldreda20 bro Ayano himself admitted he is not good at socializing 💀 and I doubt he is an influential person
I really liked that u gave influence a different place/game.
Influence add 30 to 40% of winning chance in real life situation.
Fax
We all know that in reality Johan would not confront anyone head-on, and if he did and realized that they were a threat to him, he would resolve it by shooting his rival in the head. End.
He would as an act of testing fate
You know Johan is the 🐐 when he being compared to a modern character that was literally created to be OP and broken as possible without any superpower.
Especially when Johan only has 20-25 minutes of screen time in the 74 episode of Monster.
I mean johan was literally the result of an experiment of bonaparta to create the most perfect child that fills all categories by matching couples that are perfect for each other
Johan was a result of a couple perfect for each other, while Ayanokoji was supposed to not be born with ANY advantages in genes in order for his father to prove that ANYONE can conquer the world if raised in the perfect environmental conditions (which failed because kiyotaka and professor Ayanokoji were actually good (not perfect like johans parents) but just good for each other to make a child with high potential) so yeah the result definitely was easily phenomenal as proven by koji being the only one that to survive the 4th generation
you know koji is broken when hes put against literal monsters at the age of 16-17
Perfect comparison 👌 nothing to add.but for those who will start to rage because johan did not win don't forget that his two there have different goal in their world try to imagine ayanokoji in monster and johan classroom of elite. So we can't really comparing them both as there is no evidence that either ayanokoji or Johan can't do what the other does. but personally i think johan is more manipulation with influence but ayanokoji more knowledge, smarter etc...
Thx 😁
Agreed
So... Lmao... 1st U say we can't Compare Them.. Then u say Koji is smarter 🤣🤣.. Bruhh U say if he's in COTE He will same as koji...
You are debunk proved.. And checkmate in your own line🗿☕
Knowledge I agree with Ayanakoji, but smartness also goes to Johan
@AleX Lynx kid johan >>
Ayanokoji can be tracked from records etc, they know his capabilities etc, Johan is a monster. He vanishes like the smoke from a fire leaving the untraceable ashes behind. If ayanokoji manages to meet a monster, he is most likely to be swallowed by it.
Perfect, no biased categories that were given to characters, great video.
Thx 😁
Planing.. Antiception... Goes to Koji.. Lmao... Another one that never Watched Monster yet.. Lmao🗿
@@nasrullahkhan9881 yeah I don’t agree with that but everything else is pretty much accurate ngl it’s Johan fans crying cuz their favourite character can get beat 😢
@@Nycesuhq 🤡🤡🤡High Schooler vs A man who control Germany 🗿☕.. YOU Are The one who is Crying L
@@BD-LIJEKTOR least weird Johan fan
These debates have improved so much
Yep
Anticipation and predictions to Johan.
U are the true ayanokoji fan ❤️
Not anticipation but it's debateable
@@Etheldreda20 Johan literally anticipate everything what gonna happen in monster series
@@johanliebert6885 you can say the same for ayanokoji he's anticipate everything as well so it is quite debatable
Ayano predicts everything to the smallest detail, Johan didn't predict to be saved@@johanliebert6885
The idea of Classroom of Elite is to show how genuises behave in common life situations like school, how genius things can be demonstrated in common limited life situation in school.
So it is incorrect to say that COTE characters are less inteeligent than Death note or Monster only because they are school level when Monster is country level.
We compare intelligence which here cannot be fairly demonstrated by influence level.
So I agree with author. Ayanokoji beats in overall inteeligence and pbysical power but in influence this Monster wins
Also to add to your point, the detectives in death note were incompetent besides L. I could put 10 COTE characters in that investigation which would have helped L.
@@Axelblaze1022 exactly. That's something everyone always ignores.
Johan low diffs with prep time.
Koji mid-high diffs without prep time.
Overall, in a real-world scenario - Johan high diffs.
Real world is with scratch so no influence or contacts so ayanokoji>
real world ayanokoji
@@garyzhu1913 if it is head on then ayanokoji wins. When with prep time johan wins
@@nazwa2587 I think what people ignore is that Ayanokoji has no emotions, so manipulating him would literally be impossible. Johan can control as many people as he likes but in the end Ayanokoji would be able to know all of them because of his ability of Situational Awareness, so most likely even with prep-time, Koji wins
people say ayanokoji is overrated but i think johan is also overrsted same way
No, cry
@@Ayanokoji3535 i am not crying but Johan is overrated
@@sova6330 Ayanokouji is overrated
both are overrated
No every debate of Johan. Doesn't Win in that case Johan is underated and I've seen ayanokoji is being overrated over of the intelligence and iq
W vid...
I feel like 5-10 points should've gone to Johan and the difficulties raised a bit in his favor
But W
Thx
I only saw like 2 or 3 prob more categories that should have gone to Ayanokoji instead of Johan and go to Johan instead of Ayanokoji.
Perfect comparison without any doubt 👌
Johan's greatest flaw is the absence of awareness about his own abilities
Lmao all the johan fanboys are butt hurt
Xdd
The tables have turned now!
W video and finally someone who agree ayanokoji wins in a common World situation. Ayanokoji wouldn't just wander around till he dies in the outside world
Yep
Wtf dude ayo can never win , tbh he is just yood at fighting high schoolers
@@dhruvchahar5939 He'd neg diff any real life human tho.
@@dhruvchahar5939 cry about it johantard
@@dhruvchahar5939 someone who haven't read the LN.
Just wait ayanokoji to become an adult. He would destory the shit out of johan(overrated) liebert.
So u really think an adult martial artist can kill a master piece with GUN?
Writers in
Classrooms of
elites:Fanboy Kind writer
Monster:Mysterious killer,Mentally torturing.
Facts w editor love how you actually make full length video just to compare these two logically. 👏🏻
what I love about this, is that johan fans can't argue because they don't know what 70% of this means🤣
Fax
They just don't need to. It's obvious W for Johan
@@Ayanotards tell me then, what parts do you disagree with they video and why?
@@Ayanotards no
Cote pfp
Such a satisfying edit. W+fax
Thx ❤️
combat: ayanokoji
johan: my gun disagrees 🔫
Lmao ayanokoji is supersonic he can dodge a bullet from a pistol
@@johan5815 shoots him in the back
@@johan5815💀💀💀🦟
@@johan5815ayanokoji speedsonic feat was debunked, you can even search it lol, and a bullet goes 3000km per second so it's faster than ayanokoji reaction time
@@Ihatejohanliebert 3000km/s did you pull out this number out of your ass..
It's not a sniper it's simply a pistol 🤦♂️
I think anticipation and planning go to Johan since he planned everything up to his "perfect suicide" and anticipated every variable for it. You could further split planning into short-term and long-term planning and give it to Ayanokoji and Johan respectively. Overall though, great comparison.
Thx ❤️
If we are not considering feats ayanokoji anticipation and planning is just like seeing future
Ayano also planned and anticipated the whole time span of V4-V7 (which is basically the whole season 2) and he said to Horikita that he cannot see the future (when she asked him if he has foresight) and said about calculating every possible outcome and going with the one that has the highest chance.
@@gikara_5646 That's why I said that Ayanokoji should be given short-term planning while Johan should be given long-term planning. Ayanokoji is more observant and is able to intuitively come up with a plan based on achieving the best outcome. Johan, however, basically planned the entire series. Though his feats are mostly offscreen, he was able to predict everything from his childhood to his "perfect suicide". Hell, I would oppose the claim put forward by many Monster fans that Johan can exist realistically, because his intuition and planning is simply unrealistic(no hate btw, I love both COTE and Monster).
@@primeroyal7434 ah I see. I simply dropped monster at ep 20 because shi got too boring and unbearable for me. Do you recommend that I should pick it up again?
Johan is still a better antagonist and nobody can replace him
Yep But outsmarting he lose
We are comparing who's smarter or who wins in overall intelligence
He's not saying that Ayanokouji is a better character than Johan liebert
nah this dude is more intelligent than any fiction character he know words that i don't even know bruh💀💀💀
Idc Johan still more well written
More realistic and overall one of the most well written characters in anime
Ayanokoji must be smart or shit
But he ain’t as realistic and great as Johan
He is overall better tho😅
@@Mango1234-k1u ayanokoji was created to be op. Johan does not. But Imo Johan is better as character.
Bro Koji is literally more realistic than Johan idk what are you talking about. In stop scaling, which considers only on-screen feats and realistic statements, for example in-depth analysis into the characters' strategies, Koji is far far superior. Johan has great feats, but they are all off-screen and never explored, you cannot call that more realistic than Kojo's manipulation and strategies that were actually showcased and detailed thoroughly in the Light novel.
@@LevMynskin that’s the point. yk why most of Yohan’s feats are off cam right?.
It’s because the writer can portray such a realistic monster
He tried to show an example of it by creating the Richard scene
Yohan is a monster
Monster is the most beautiful and well written anime to ever exist with Yohan being the most well written character of all time
@@LevMynskin monster is the most realistic anime it’s not an anime for some cringe teens. As much as I hate ayonokoji tards I don’t hate the writer cuz his main target audience is teens after all.
Its like An AI vs Natural Human.
Since Ayanokoji was the product of The White Room.
what is the name song?
Iq is ayanokoji
Ayanokoji have 281 iq and johan have 250 iq so ayanokoji win in iq
I have a question bro where is that koji scene from? Where he is leaning on the wall which ep? I am subscribed
W Video. Johan is overestimated. He wasn't meant to be an intelligent. People mistakes his ruthlessness for his smartness.
Fax
No johan win
Miiii, after all, Johan may not be smart, but he is cruel, but he was able to outsmart all of Japan. I agree that Koji will win, but Johan is smart too.
@@KokoroSlay**Germany
Ayanokoji is only 17 years old imagine adult vr
neither koji isnt perfect human there's neither written on ln or anime
but johan is perfect human and nameless monster
marvels dc are not good at graphics but they do makes better story lines and better sense
u have long way to go kid
that koji is only 16
even an local army or rab is better than
there's no way 16
so now u realize
next: ayanokoji vs mikey
What do you think?
Good idea, after uploading the Akira vs Yokoya video, I will make the video you said.
bro is got manipulation for ayanokoji jsut to make a war to collect some information from johan 💀
Bro spilling facts
Yep lol👏
I prefer Johan but like Ayo too. This video is fax
Bro you off beat edit is KILLIN ME
Combat : Johann high diff Johan is grimmer level in combat
Outsmarting: ayonokoji high diff
Common world: Johann high diff
Manipulation: Johan low diff
With inf: Johan low-mid diff
Overall: Johann mid diff
(Also Johan takes direct manip and all manipulation possible he is manipulation himself)
Combat johan?
9 years old koji >> johan on combat
@@halilefeucak9518 kid Johan > kid Koji in combat mid diff
@@FlyAchX what a feat kid johan did
@@halilefeucak9518 no diffed everything in age 5
what is meant by common world: extreme diff
They both start life from scratch
Same scenario
Fire edit but overall winner is Johan
And Johan is a trained soldier, the combat against him low-mid diff not negative
thx Johan didn't have time to be a super soldier. and Ayanokoji is supersonic level. He can kill Johan in one hit
Johan didn't show even Peak Human lvl feats, so no. He also was kept under sleeping drugs as a kid so be didn't train for it, and he escaped soon after his immunity system worked and got him immune to sleeping drugs. So no he didn't even train much if at all for it + no feats
@@Subatsuki i don't remember Ayanokoji being supersonic
@@schnee4108ichika blitz
@@Subatsuki I think you're overestimating saying he's supersonic, yes in a fight he'll kill Johan but it won't be one or two hits for him
Big W edit 😎
Thx
Where'd you get all these categories and what they mean?
You are so smart holy shit
My respects , bro
W edit…..
Thx
Bro have mental problem , a Country level character vs School leve , its so funny , Kid johan is enough for ayanokoji , johan literally killed 50 people in age 10 easily ,
Cope
There should definitely be a lot of changes, problem solving should go to koji and intuition should go to Johan
Song please
Chads Who Know:-
BIG W Btw
Thx
What is this song name
Ayanotards at their best
Eh imo this video fax
Fax bro
Johantard at his best can only do this
Amazing video!
Thx ♡
*Physical feats join the chat*
*Johan left the chat*
*Social skill join the chat*
*Koji left the chat*
Johann have grimmer level combat skills Johan takes that high diff
Johan killed inspector zeman and another secret Czechoslovakian police by beating them
@@evanasultana9612 Koji has also beaten 6 professional martial artists and broken their bones easily at the age of 9. He beaten Shiba and Tsukihiro who were literally punching at the speed of sound, without any effort. What matters more is the technique and skill in fight, raw strength can be easily countered, and Koji has mastered a lot of martial arts and also has greater understanding with weapons.
when will the ayanokoji riding end..? why is it hard to accept that Johan is just better then him in every way possible.??
In every way possible? Nice one.. you are terrible at debating
Johan fan boi spotted. He is overrated as fuck.
Cap , Johan fanboy
Bro didn't even understand a single category in the video so decided to spit nonsense 🤓
in a real life situation goes to johan overall johan > mid - high diff
No
@@somerandomguy4216if it was real life johan with his influence has many different countries in his arsenal, this includes armies, hitmen etc
@@domipoookie bro what u r even talking about? we r rating them in a real life situation not in their verses
@@domipoookie RLS means no canon influence
Both have the demonic mindset
Btw Best J vs AK video ever 😘
Esse vídeo pegou fogo
Muito bom
Thx ❤️🔥
u might forget the fact that there is nothing that will stop johan not even inner morals or any feelings he will get what he want in someway or another doesnt matter what way.
Ayanokoji has said the same thing people are tools in this world winning g is everything it doesn't matter what needs to be sacrificed and then he said he was going to win
Woah man you do really cool full scale battles, high iq
I dont give a damn about feats and facts johan would mindfrick that high school kid anyway...why you ask?
Because he is my fav mindfrick character
So you are basically saying it doesn't matter if ayanokoji's feats are better Johan is still the winner because he is your favorite character? Well that's delusional but that's on you
@@Etheldreda20 kyoji doesn't have a feat close to Johan
@@Hatak_ekakashi15 kushida also have same backstory like Johan let koji alone
Kushida = Johan since both of them manipulated and made people kill themselves when they were child according to midhan fangirls logic 🤓
Planning anticipation intuition and all manipulation category goes to Johan Johan Outsmart Extreme diff and overall low mid diff
Only Anticipation and intuition Goes to johan I think
In life situation Johan Easily win because of his Influence
Outsmarting:Idk But i think
Ayanokoji:High-Extream diff
Like The Video 👏👍
I get U love Ayanokoji and all but in a common world this world we live in Johan would without a doubt DESTROY Ayanokoji and u know it, he could find and kill Ayanokoji within 1 week, his methods r more realistic and suited for real life u think Ayanokoji risking getting expelled for manipulating and seeing through some 15 year old who is above avarage smart is something Johan risks his life, he actually manipulates countries and actually kills people
Johan manipulated average persons while ayanokoji manipulated Japan's smartest students 🐐
@@a.........g.........g5217 Not Japan's students White room students💀💀💀💀
@@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Ryuuen was not a whiteroom student 💀 and koji manipulated him from vol 4 to vol 7
@@a.........g.........g5217 Although that is worse, or that Johan since he was a child by himself indirectly killing all of Kinderheim 511 both children and adults ???, and they were not ordinary people they were genius levels, while Koji suffered in the white room
@@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 kushida basically destroyed her middle school class so basically from your own theory
Kushida=Johan
Aynokoji is a legend
Yes
What ayonokoji? Oh the mosquito one?
If linguistic Verbal goes to koji then I don't deserve to be living
Anticipation & Prediction goes to Johan and rest are Faxx
W edit 🍷
Thx
I don't know, if Johan will lose MULTILINGUALISM.
Best example is reading original books in OLD LANGUAGES. 🤔
Whut
I don't understand how low ayanotards can go. It doesn't even make sense to compare Ayanokoji to Johan. One manipulates smart school students while the other controls the whole European continent. Johan absolutely neggs Ayanokoji. The only reason y'all irrationally support Ayanokoji is because he's that stoic "cool sigma" character y'all wished to be like at high school but couldn't be.
You humiliated them a lot we hahaha
Your opinion is so illogical.
You are say about his influence and manipulation overall, but it is debate on the human being factor's, not social factor's, and in 1 on 1 Johan influence and manipulation dont make sense, koji will just kill him in fight, and in this situation, you still gonna say "lol, johan will just control Europe army to kill koji" or some shit like this, didn't you?
Bro,the line u said at the end js quite true,i wanted to become that cool sigma but can't,this is the thing i like about ayanokoji the most
@@_spit_all_fax_ no, johan would just shoot Ayanokoji. Simple as it is.
@@nihilisticboi3520 oh , bravo, 👏 very smart argument
Where's the proves
Ayanokoji is only better at fighting
Johan has real brain 🧠
I gave you credit for watching anime on youtube shorts
@@Subatsuki bto what the fun
Am I that stupid
I watched 800+ anime
Even dc marvels
And there's so many characters that can win diff
If u really scaled koji
U may notice
That he know all martials arts is the biggest lie
I was also fan of him but I was foolish
Now I'm awaken
And white room is not actually that affective than meditation
Even yagami light is better manipulator than him
L can beat cote neg diff
He stopped world at age 8
And light how smartly killed him
Cote is normal as local school
S1 was normal s2 was even worse
I truly hate him
Also i hate saitama
Goku>saitama neg diff
@@Subatsuki even spider is more smarter
He can beat stronger then him
He is true chad
Even manipulation
@@Subatsuki look if u prove me wrong here i will apologize
So make another video with proves
@@tasinrahman7917 who even said he knows all martial arts
In my opinion:
Physical + combat - Ayanokoji neg diff
Intellect - Ayanokoji high diff
Outsmarting (FS) - Ayanokoji very high - extreme diff
Outsmarting (NFS) - Johan high diff
Manipulation - Johan low-mid diff
IRL (from scratch) - Ayanokoji extreme diff
IRL (with influence) - Johan mid diff
Overall: Ayanokoji high-very high diff(by feats)
A lot of people think, that Johan >>> Ayanokoji, but after Volume 0, Ayanokoji FP >> Johan FP mid diff. We only see 40-50%(or even less) of Ayanokoji's abilities.
Also, after Volume 0 Ayanokoji can on the Moriarty level... But Moriarty high diff > FP Ayanokoji
Me a 270 IQ rocket scientist: But can he beat goku? 🤪
No Goku solo😏
Predictions,intuition,planning,anticipation go to johan
Predictions no, intuition no he maybe gets insight, planning no ayanokoji's plans never fails, anticipation no ayanokoji imagined a that he thought would happen just by watching 2 people have an interaction with exact details, I'm not taking anything away from Johan but this guy is walking no fail genius
@@Etheldreda20 Johan predicts world domination at the age of 11 and plans well, especially saving his 1 orphanage friend and returning Robert's 1 memory
So prediction+planning go to johan
For intuition
Johan has the intuition to follow and kill the inspector who is trying to kill the grimmer and take the cassette tapes of Johan's childhood
For anticipation
Johan always prepares a lot of anticipation such as always carrying a gun and killing "the baby" first before killing piter capek and getting a location from Bonaparta
Overall prediction,planning,intuition and anticipation
Johan > koji
Wlc to cap shop
Sorry we don’t have any we run of stock
Tho i love john but he can’t outsmart ayano
fr Johan and Light and L become extremly overrated
Name song?
Bones dxrk
Ayanokoji win but not extreme diff
Perfect man can not win the nameless monster
You're contradicting in that sentence. Perfect means perfect, no flaws or losses. So he can beat nameless monster cause he is perfect, he wouldn't be perfect if he can't win, get me?
😵💫 i never heard these words
by comparing Johan with Ayano, is the only way to make Ayano look great and cool🤣
Do franz bonaparta aka the one who created the monster vs ayanokoji kiyotaka
Franz is Johan victim wtf?
I think talent should go to Johan since he was actually talented. Koji 's whole character is about how in right conditions ( white room) even a talentless average human can surpass the greatest genuise in history. He doesn't have talent, he is just a hard worker
False, have you not read? He was born a genius plus with hard work thats why he was the sole survivor in his generation and every other wr students look up to him like a god. I don't think that's pure hard work. It's in his DNA to be god damn smart and strong plus help of wr he is perfection
@@GGelix he's born being a genius in adaptability (first training in white room,he got some losses but he adapts quickly and got high win streaks)...He has also a perfect memory...
Win🔥🔥
They all give planning to johan idk why
Koji planning is better imo
Yep🔥
Dude literally created a massacre in the town wdym 💀 his plan was so flawless that he almost completed it unless that drunken bastard came
Any feats of ayano getting planning
Johan's planning feats are menacing of him becoming anna predicted the actions of even the cops and tenma
His plans were so clean that literally he was like a non existing being like an imagination to other people
@@Monicayadav_55 drunken Bastard came? So his plan failed didn't it?
@@Monicayadav_55 and ayanokoji's plans never failed by your Logic ayanokoji should get planning
@@Monicayadav_55 ayanokoji so many times predicted what would happen with exact details and goes what it happened
This would be my scale both koji and johan:
Physical Stats: Strength:koji, speed:koji, durability:koji, agility:koji, stamina:koji, defense:koji, battle iq:koji, ap:koji, technique:koji, combat experience:johan
IQ: AWMI=johan, CPI=koji, WISC= johan, GAI= koji>=, NVI=koji, DSI=koji, IRP=equals, VSI=koji>=, VCI=johan>=, FSIQ=koji, FRI=koji, WMI=koji, QRI=koji
Intellect: Verbal linguistics, kinesthetic=equals, arithmetic logic and mathematical logic=koji, interpersonal and intrapersonal=johan, emotional and existential=johan, spatial visual=koji>=, depth and complexity=johan, Cunning=johan, observation and conclusions=koji, tactics and strategies=koji, Persuasion=johan, musical int=koji, naturalistic=koji, crystallized int=koji, natural int=johan, flowing int=same, general int=johan
EQ: Self-awareness=johan, social awareness=johan, social ability=johan, social achievements=johan, empathy=johan, self-management=johan, self-regulation=johan, emotional control=johan, emotional strength and/or resistance=johan, emotional performance ( when I fake cry with Karl), see through people=johan, human psyche=johan, Emotional heatstroke=johan
Manipulation:
Individual manipulation=same, pure manipulation=johan, mass manipulation=johan, direct manipulation=same, indirect manipulation=johan, deception=johan, emotional manipulation=johan, effective manipulation=johan, Intuition=koji, Social intuition=johan, influence external=koji (referring that has his father and uses him), general influence=johan, tolerance=equals, methods=johan, battle iq=equals (in manipulation)
I agree 👍
Agreed too😀
Ayanokouji only wins at combat this is cap bud.
I hope u joking
@@JadonF No i am serious
@@BlackEyesOfDarkness Ayanokoji pfp and name tag yet u think Ayanokoji only gets combat against Johan. Never knew u could know both Ayanokoji and Johan and know what there feats are and think Ayanokoji only gets combat. So u either are lying about u being serious or u haven’t read nor watch cote and Monster.
@@JadonF İ am watch and read monster and read Cote LN but no Ayanokouji is not in Johan level yet.
@@BlackEyesOfDarkness Ur delusional than.
Monster winner 👹
Johan Liebert 👹
Cry about it
Overall Intelligence General Intelligence intellect smartness and abductive seduction adaptability strategy methods goes to Johan bro high diff this video make my day so bad and it's cringe asf and also deductive goes to Johan. Bro don't compare a kid to a old man monster,
Anticipation adaptability intuition intellect smartness persuasive and Perception method goes to Johan and the rest of it goes to ayanokoji is a well trained in whiteroom in which is a torture room and for people trained and to make status up on a different situation.
Intuition and perception and intellect smartness goes to Johan is a born genius+evil monster that has a fake emotion and emotionless and linguistic Intel
Planning and method goes to ayanokoji planning could go either way to Johan and in a common world Johan wins very hard diff in outsmarting ayanokoji and could go same but ayanokoji has a potential it could go to Johan very hard extreme diff and anticipation adaptability
inrealife situation Johan wins low-mid diff
Overall intelligence/General intelligence very hard extreme diff
Manipulation low diff
Ayanokoji:
Combat no low diff
Mind games/outsmarting low diff intelligence quotient high diff
Mind ayanokoji very hard extreme diff
In a common world =
Overall Johan wins very insane diff
Bruhh these days debates are getting deeper than deeper until you get confused and started raging some deep reasoning just straight to the conclusion already that's it and everything is complicated.
Midkoji fanboy
Johan >>> Kiyotaka (mid-diff)
Midhan fangirls are here
Ayanokoji >>>>> Monster verse ( Mid diff)
bet you cant tell the wrong of this video
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 If you want, I can give you arguments and facts that prove that Johan wins
@@renatoaugusto5624 prove how
Ayanokoji >>> midhan - low diff
We have never seen johan fight what makes u think that he can't fight or beat ayanakoji
? Well we haven't seen the best of ayanokoji too
And btw that just means Johan lacks physical feats
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Йохан просто интересней как персонаж , всё остальное неважно
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Johan is smart but never really fought anyone… he shot people tho too I expected and that is kinda scary to think that he would shoot him in a moment at anytime
Good editing no hate just listen Johan will outsamart and in common world he is better at influencing people he will just mainuplate there is no debate in combat but it can be low-mid diff if he is trained normally and if Johan was in wr then he can even beat ayanokoji kiyoktaka but i think we shouldn't compare they are both goats in their own way so we can say one is mr. Perfect and strongest fighter normal human
And other one is a nameless monster who can oversmart anyone and manipulate anyone just imagine if they teamed up we shouldn't compare them they are both goats true sigmas not fight
~A true gigachad
Do you fall asleep whenever you watch monster?...cause johan solos kiyo at anything involving influence, manipulation, persuasion and every angles of intelligence... you're literally giving the win to a kid playing mindgames at school against a genius master manipulator
A high schooler vs A man who control Whole Germany 🗿☕
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Oh no, the Johan fangirl is here
I love how the table have turned now
oh shit a 15 year old who thinks he is sly for watching Monster gtfo
Johan absolutely destroys Ayanokoji
Ayanokoji outsmart high-extreme unfortunately
Johan fanboy cries haha
Cry about it L
Sadly for johan fans, Ayanokoji destroys with low diff now
Kenzo tenma >>> ayanokoji