Mike Dechaine vs. Shane Van Boening - Turning Stone - Final Day
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Turning Stone Final Day - Mike Dechaine vs. Shane Van Boening
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"You're a cheater!" "He cheated!"
Mike loves saying this about Shane, especially when he loses to him. Mike was kinda a dick when he was on the felt (in a match against someone) a few years ago. He's toned down his attitude over the last couple of years and acts in a professional manner when he plays a match these days. He's always been pretty friendly when he's off the table however. From what I've heard, he simply doesn't like Shane. He's said in interview that Shane cheats sometimes. In all honesty I think this is jealousy. Shane didn't become a 3x US Open champion from cheating. He's the best player in the USA, and the only one that can hang with the Filipinos and Taiwanese machines. When Shane was in the Philippines he was the only American actively seeking out the Filipino worldbeaters and gambling with them. Shane didn't do it to win, he did it for the practice and experience. That speaks volumes about his work ethic.
DastardlyDaring well said
That was well said...
+Max Watson Oh what's up Max. Fancy seeing u here... Like me, you watch alot of pool matches. I bet they wish they had this technology back in the day!! I figure that if I can pick up one trick of the trade from a days worth of watching pool, I've gained something.
the snowdawg Hey Snowdawg. True, we get to see all the professional matches we can handle and watch them over again; I do the same thing lol. It's one of the best ways to learn. Just to toot my own horn, I've only been playing for 2 years. I just reached level 8 in my BCA league, won out last sessions championship and am #10 on our MVP list out of 50. All thanks to watching these guys, Tor Lowry and Dr. Dave Billiards and LOTS of table time.
+Max Watson Well that's awesome Max!! If ur in the NY area, look me up. We can play a set or 2...
One time in college some students and I racked 500 racks of 9 ball and 250 racks of eight ball. We wanted to see the difference between loose racks and tight ones. In both eight ball as well as nine. It surprised us to see that far more balls were sunk on loose racks. Better ball spread and three times as many eight balls sunk on the breaks. Not saying it is the smart thing to do but we were just curious on how important the break really is.
+stinger139 Not buying this at all. You can certainly rig the rack to increase your chances of pocketing one or two certain balls in certain positions in the rack in certain pockets, but you will always get a better spread and will more often than not pocket way more balls with a tight rack.
There are lots of variables of course, but there are certain rules of thumb when it comes to how the balls react on the break with loose and tight racks. You will get a better spread/more action on most balls with a tight rack. When there are no gaps in the rack you get the maximum transference of energy on the other balls in the rack if they are all touching. Every gap in the rack reduces that. There are certain areas in the rack where small gaps in just one or two balls will slug the entire rack.
It also depends on how well you hit the break and where you break from. The more balls in the rack, the more energy gets transferred throughout the rack when you break closer to the center behind the headstring, and that of course is largely dependent on how square you can hit the head ball. That's why in pro 8 ball matches and 10- ball matches the pros usually break from some area close to the center.
For 9 ball most pros break from the side because it gives you a higher percentage chance to pocket either the 1 in the side or a wing ball in the corner. And they aim straight on to the one to put the most energy into a side of the rack opposite from where they are breaking.
Though with the Magic Rack being common now, pros are consistently making way more balls on the break on average with a perfect rack.
No matter what you will always pocket more balls and have a better spread (provided you are using the same type of break for both loose and good racks) with good racks over loose ones. At higher levels of the game the break shot is by far and away the most important shot in the game.
@@dastardlydaring5142 Well said. I would doubt that they had someone who was breaking consistently at the same speed, and from the same spot, and hitting the head ball dead on. I appreciate their spirit nevertheless.
A 78 minute match, and about half of it is racking....
+Andrewxarmstrong 7 minutes and 35 seconds of racking :3
See what you mean, 3rd rack lol!
Mike Dechaine represents the majority of good pool players....crying little b's!
Dechaine is obviously using the racking to shark van boening. The time shane tells mike to fix the rack himself, it takes less than 15 seconds for him to get it set.
15:04 amazingly well thought shot
Maintained his composure til that moment in the match?
1:06:30-1:06:50... he said that he was putting the 2 ball in the same spot in the rack every time
using the "magic ball rack" would solve the problem^^
Pool is so competitive game you can't forgive yourself if you missed a stupid shot that made loose the game so it needs an extreme concentration in the game to end up winning so you have to take you're time before you play although I don't like it when it's too slow like this game but that's pool and I'm a pool player so I kinda understand that
crazy how the score changed !
I think Mike was so concerned and upset about him not getting a perfect rack, it screwed his game up. He's his own worst enemy.
They should have a third party racking anytime Mike plays. Mr. Rack Mechanic is always pulling this crap. I think it shouldn't be allowed.
Same with Dennis. In fact watch a match where they play each other.... It's like warfare.
+the snowdawg I'll look for one. Thank you
The break is the most important shot in the entire game...
yeah I know, Mike is one of the best players in the world right now. He was mostly frustrated with the rack not being tight. The wing ball goes in 100% of the time. That's why mike was getting so pissed. It's like giving a player like shane a handicap
16:10 slug racked tf outa shane
Carom at 15m was absolutely amazing. Trust me. Set that up and try it a couple hundred times. Ball - rail - 9ball, with inside english... just try it.
Those are my favorite shots, once you know how to shoot them... it's like shooting a hanger
Go on
I think Dechaine could have taken that six to either side or down, or safed it, but he slammed it because he knows he's better than that and left himself with tough shots on the 6 and before that, so like the announcers mentioned he shot out of aggression, I do it as well frequently it's tough to avoid in a match with people staring. Nevermind a match like this
MIke is a good solid APA 5. Never have watched a video where he has won.
+stinger139 lol you aren't going to see an apa 5 run multiple racks
You play him, he gives you the 6, 7, 8 and I'll put a grand on him....
stinger139 do I like mike? No I don't but mikes a pro he can play strong he just makes mistakes mentally. mike is as good of player as anyone
the snowdawg ill take that bet. Im an apa 7. Bet 10k
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Great match! Thanks for the post. These announcers are clowns though...
15:15, that was not a carom. That was a billiard.
Jeesh. The cue ball hit the the object ball then billiard the 9 to the whole.
i thought carom and billiard was the same thing?
No.
Carom is when an object ball hits another ball and the object ball goes in.
Rocky Elorde oh the object ball hit the nine in the video ?
That was a billiard. The CUE BALL hit the object ball then BILLIARED THE 9 ball in.
If the 4 ball hit the 9-ball then the 4 ball went in, that would be a carom.
Rocky Elorde. Thank you for the explanation I never knew the difference
not sure what you mean by this
To the creators of these videos: Please try and find a signal processing app to remove the dumb ass background music/noise from these.. No wonder SVB turns down his hearing aid during a match.
+Mark Brown **TsssssssssTTSs** SCORCHED!
+abusiveFIRE #ROASTEDhashBROWNS
he shot it that hard to change the angle just enough so he could get proper shape on the next shot.
can't beat shane with skill, just go home. just check how sluggish the 16:00 rack was, that's why shane is smiling since he didn't inspect.
I dont think i ever seen a pro miss a straight shot on the 9 being that close to the object ball
wow at the last moment
mike was spending all the time racking for shane because if certain balls aren't touching then the wing ball goes in every single time. That's why when shane said he didn't care mike said no but he does.
2nd rack would have been WAY easier coming two rails back to the center of the table after the 1ball and playing a carom off the 2ball, calling the 9ball. Why didn't he see that?
To all the people that are saying that the player that looks at the rack is a little bitch, this is their job, this is how they pay their bills. That's like a racecar driver not checking his car out before a race. It's not because they think the other player is trying to screw with them, there is actually a way to "read" the rack and it will help you know where to break from and how hard in order to make a certain ball. Corey Deuel is the best in the world at this,
One of the commentators is using something that's similar to the chewing tobacco..
He says like this: Wat"th" the nine ball "th"troke ju"th"t in the hole!
Made me laugh really!
meanwhile 90's top 40 music in the back wtf
90's music is actually music, though. Not the swill that's been coming out the last 10 years.
I'm a big magic rack supporter but fortunately with youtube you can fast forward through the racking nonsense.
15:31
Like watching superman in a race with Stephen Hawkings
wouldn't it have been easier and faster if rack ur own format?!!
53:13
Did Mike tank the shot 2:50? Looked like sandbag.
WHY
That ridiculous attempt at the 6 by MIke is a disappointing as hell end to pretty damn good match. Too bad.
The worst thing is Mike calling Shane a cheater with the rack. First of all, Shane doesn't need to cheat. Second, Mike was eyeing every rack like a hawk and if Shane was cheating he should have brought it up then, not at the end like a little bitch. He's just mad that Shane is better and that he chose to shoot a careless bank to lose the game when even a amateur like myself could have played safe behind the 7. Lets just say when it's taking Mike or Shane's side, I'll stick with the guy that everybody loves and respects, not the douche that everybody hates (cuz there's a reason why)
NO WONDER NO 1 WILL WATCH
BORING PLAYERS GREAT PLAYERS BUT BORING GET ON WITH IT MAN PLAY THE GAME
WHY U NO LIKE MIKEY
1:15:52 .......... :\
magic rack, just saying
+Michael Kolb #no
svb, just saying
magic rack.............
Easy out, just a very long bridge and shot waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to hard -- very careless.
@Carlosgtrsnk I played a pro yesterday and he missed a 9 ball easier than that hill hill. That miss won me another $110 so I was happy as hell.
Mike called Shane a cheater lol
UMADBRO?!?!
naw i aint mad i have won 7 superbowls LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
anything is better than that pool froot Jim Wych...
Dechaine is a very talented guy, but i cant be a fan of someone who chalks their cue like that. lol ..
Dechaine el tio con menos estilo echando tiza
so ugly seeing them racking for minutes and inspecting the rack with their nose almnost touching the rack...
commentators i swear...like DONT SHOOT THAT HARD SHOT HOW DARE YOU PRODUCE POOL THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WATCH!! Im over here like go earl strickland but I like players who Can Shoot and drop da bullshit, SOMETIMESSSsss you gotta put up the panties and make the bloody wankin ball !! you think your spot shots are cute, these guys could at some point put down the biggest shots out there but now they just don't have to....where am i going with this...PEACE
I think I know where your going..... I suppose that at this level, the less tough shots the better. But ya, there proly isn't a shot that these guys can't make.
Peace out bro...
because he shows no respect
funny commentary, crappy match.
Dechaine so overrated
worst miss on the nine ball ever by a 'pro' player...
It's an hour and 18 minute match how about mentioning the time of the miss you mention. #derp
SDandRnRoll . at 2.50 of course.
Carom Kick = Top left into the 2. Miss the double Kiss. Cue off the bottom rail w/spin. Into the 9, bump into bottom right pocket. Game ove.
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All day from the booth.
@drdave ? Dr Dave
maybe the double kiss was the issue.