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  • @CJD22K
    @CJD22K Рік тому +106

    As a Bengals fan, one of the best left tackles in the business for a long time, and one of the most loyal players to play for the Browns. Over 10,000 straight snaps played?!! Well deserved, Joe Thomas.

    • @Enarjay7891
      @Enarjay7891 Рік тому +3

      Over 10,000 snaps played while EASILY being the best player on the field. He may not be the best Left Tackle ever, but there’s NEVER been a Better Left a tackle!

    • @williamcurtin5692
      @williamcurtin5692 Рік тому

      And you guys have seen some pretty good tackle play.

    • @prod.snqwfall1347
      @prod.snqwfall1347 Рік тому

      @@Enarjay7891 He may not be, but he also just might be

  • @titansrule72
    @titansrule72 Рік тому +94

    spent his whole career on a ton of bad browns teams and still made the hof. joe was one of a kind. had a chance to leave and go win a title with the broncos and said nope.

    • @loganmccrory2211
      @loganmccrory2211 Рік тому +9

      Cleveland fans will always be loyal to him as he was loyal to us. We know he should've gone somewhere else to win, but he never waivered. Hopefully the winning comes soon.🐶

    • @natnaelberhanu-i8w
      @natnaelberhanu-i8w Рік тому +4

      He even blocked for Johnny Manziel which I don't even think helped cuz he was probably getting sacked constantly

    • @edwardgaines6561
      @edwardgaines6561 Рік тому

      Honestly, Joe should've got that Super Bowl ring. Some things you only get one shot at, in life.

    • @titansrule72
      @titansrule72 Рік тому

      @@edwardgaines6561 like when bernie got his with dallas. seems hollow, but its real if you can wear it on your finger.

  • @frankwolfrum6301
    @frankwolfrum6301 Рік тому +49

    1 of 90 first ballot Hall of Famers that's something special Thank you Mr. Thomas!!!

    • @sec9788
      @sec9788 Рік тому +1

      Yet, Matt Light of the Patriots (3x SB Champion) is still not there. The HoF is a sham. Had to throw Joe in there cause nobody cared about the rest of them really…

    • @frankwolfrum6301
      @frankwolfrum6301 Рік тому +3

      @@sec9788 Matt Light is no Joe Thomas. Browns fans care about their team. National media not so much. I like Matt Light he is a home boy played in Greenville watched his career.

  • @JamilSmith
    @JamilSmith Рік тому +63

    One of the best Hall of Fame speeches I’ve heard in recent memory. What an amazing model of consistency, dependability, and greatness you set for your peers. This is so richly deserved. Thank you, Joe, for all you did and sacrificed for your teammates, our city, and for us, the fans.

    • @jebwaldoharrilal
      @jebwaldoharrilal Рік тому

      Agreed, 100%

    • @juniorluma9129
      @juniorluma9129 Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sec9788
      @sec9788 Рік тому

      🤨. He did get PAID to protect all those draft/trade busts…

  • @KTF0
    @KTF0 Рік тому +149

    Probably the only HOF speech that thanked the worst NFL head coaches.

  • @peterrothwell1116
    @peterrothwell1116 Рік тому +17

    That speech is why I am so DAM proud to be a Cleveland Browns fan I don't care about the record Joe Thomas is the reason why I Love the Cleveland Browns HERE WE GO BROWNIES

  • @freundschnurschuh6121
    @freundschnurschuh6121 Рік тому +7

    Great Speech Joe and congratulations from Germany to your great career and thanks for staying so unbelievable grounded.

  • @HandsomeMofoJo
    @HandsomeMofoJo Рік тому +27

    It seems like only yesterday he was drafted by the browns in the 1st round along with Brady Quinn. Congrats Joe

  • @GoBrowns9821
    @GoBrowns9821 Рік тому +18

    Joe Thomas you are a true professional and a man’s man… u sacrificed sometimes maybe when u didn’t have too… I wish the browns were better in your time with the team but you were the best player to represent our fans u had every reason to quit but didn’t… GO BROWNS #HOFJoe

  • @neilsmith9066
    @neilsmith9066 Рік тому +15

    Congratulations Joe Thomas!!!!! Well Deserved!!! Thank You for Your Loyalty!!!!

  • @tcorbitt101
    @tcorbitt101 Рік тому +8

    This dude is an amazing role model. 👏 what a great speech by a great man.

  • @seanhyland3397
    @seanhyland3397 Рік тому +10

    Joe, thank you for showing up for the Browns every Sunday. Through all the dysfunction, sabers, and disappointment, you were the one person we could always count on, every Sunday, that we knew would always be there. I just wish you were able to be apart of a playoff team. Thank you for everything.

  • @WillWigg
    @WillWigg Рік тому +11

    Joe Thomas man. Makes a grown man cry. Dude really represents what Cleveland is.

  • @jordanfrancis2024
    @jordanfrancis2024 Рік тому +21

    Joe Thomas is a hall of fame deserve credits from browns fans that are royal and see their team suffer from the 2000s and the 2010s. They deserve something good and hope that they will see their team make the super bowl a possibly win a super bowl in a city of Cleveland. Respect from a die hard chiefs fan love the browns and their fanbase too they are so loyal.

    • @KevinSmith-rd4ex
      @KevinSmith-rd4ex Рік тому +3

      always liked the cheifs...you got our marty schottenheimer...deserves to be in the hof too.

    • @jordanfrancis2024
      @jordanfrancis2024 Рік тому

      @@KevinSmith-rd4ex agree with you bro. Marty deserve to be in a hall of fame. He did us a good season from the 90s giving us a winning record every year from 1989 to 1997. He deserves to be in a hall of fame this season that just my opinion. But good luck for your browns bro and I can see you team shock somebody in the regular season to be in the playoffs.

    • @docd2295
      @docd2295 Рік тому +1

      Thank you sir. I always enjoy our teams play each other.

    • @docd2295
      @docd2295 Рік тому +1

      Marty does need to go in. He is the winningest coach who is not in.

    • @jordanfrancis2024
      @jordanfrancis2024 Рік тому

      @@docd2295 100% facts

  • @soylentteal
    @soylentteal Рік тому +35

    A great career, a loving wife, four children and masses of fans. Joe is a very rich man.

    • @edwardgaines6561
      @edwardgaines6561 Рік тому

      No Super Bowl ring though.

    • @stanh9558
      @stanh9558 Рік тому +9

      ​@@edwardgaines6561 Superbowl rings are for media journalists. Real football fans wouldn't put Jamal Lewis ahead of Barry Sanders. Just because of a SB ring.

  • @The1Manager
    @The1Manager Рік тому +5

    Love you, Joe, thanks for everything. You truly have the traits that everyone should inspire to have. 10363!

  • @patientpicker9629
    @patientpicker9629 Рік тому +3

    Great speech my son will appreciate listening to this. As a young football player he will lead his team in most consecutive middle school snaps played. He’s a young boy with a old blue collar worker soul. God bless

  • @brendanjobe7286
    @brendanjobe7286 Рік тому +11

    Thank you for being such a class act JT! What a phenomenal ceremony and player. You did us all proud today Joe!

  • @jeffsampson3796
    @jeffsampson3796 Рік тому +8

    I’m from WI. Followed him and high school and college and cheered for him
    In Cleveland playing for my 2nd favorite team (behind the Packers). I don’t know what it was but his speech got me a little teary eyed. Maybe it was his thanks to his family and home state, but a lot of it was his loyalty to the Browns and Cleveland. Happy retirement, Joe. Hope to see you around Southeast Wisconsin.

  • @jordanthelegendarysupersay4689
    @jordanthelegendarysupersay4689 Рік тому +12

    Classy, down to earth gentleman.

    • @sec9788
      @sec9788 Рік тому

      Probably grateful that ha didn’t have to deal with that kneeling nonsense. He saw the writing on the wall. Smart man, unlike most of the league…

  • @WhatIsaysGoes
    @WhatIsaysGoes Рік тому +4

    One of my favorite players EVER!!!!! And I'm a Steelers fan. Salute Joe!!!!!!!!

  • @Laceup513
    @Laceup513 Рік тому +16

    He deserves this so much.

  • @natnaelberhanu-i8w
    @natnaelberhanu-i8w Рік тому +4

    I paid a lot of attention to the '06 wisconsin team. I knew joe thomas was on that team but I didn't expect him to get drafted 3rd overall. I remember he didn't attend the draft because he was out fishing with his father. The guy had a great nfl career and he does have the voice of a dj. He should go into doing radio shows.

  • @neilsmith9066
    @neilsmith9066 Рік тому +7

    He should be the head of the HOF and show up knocking on doors. He would be so incredible in that position

  • @d.g.1594
    @d.g.1594 Рік тому +17

    I like the parts where he talked about his parents and his family.

  • @williammckay5540
    @williammckay5540 Рік тому +5

    Not just a great lineman, but a great human. I love Joe Thomas. I love the fact that the most important part about his play was being there for everyone around him. Truly a special player and a special human.

  • @michaeleagle3794
    @michaeleagle3794 Рік тому +10

    Not going to lie it feels good to have a. Brown's player in their that stayed and didn't switch teams for the money ❤

  • @georgetolofari5246
    @georgetolofari5246 Рік тому +20

    Never making the playoffs and still good enough for the hall of fame. Absolute legend browns should be ashamed of themselves

    • @animetree9379
      @animetree9379 Рік тому +2

      The browns haven't exactly been given a great time by the NFL, cough, cough bottle gate that the NFL still hasn't apologized for reversing 2 plays later

  • @everythingcollectibles
    @everythingcollectibles Рік тому +12

    One of the Best Offensive Tackles of all time!!

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987 Рік тому +7

    Joe Thomas was a true player for Cleveland no doubt about the best if not the most recognized tackles in nfl history to never won a ring but it's all good the 1st Round 3rd overall pick in the 2007 nfl Draft out of Wisconsin congrats

  • @Chefbriank
    @Chefbriank 2 місяці тому

    LOVE THAT BUST SMILE! jeez JOE youve got me cryin' again and its a whole year and 10 views of this speach for me !

  • @TheRealBigRed
    @TheRealBigRed Рік тому +6

    Just an amazing human being ! Glad you played for our Browns! Now Cleveland go get that man his Super Bowl ring!

  • @johnflocco3803
    @johnflocco3803 Рік тому +3

    Class act Joe true professional and gentlemen last of the grunts and blue collar players. Good luck Joe God bless.

  • @bobsanders3063
    @bobsanders3063 Рік тому +24

    He was the only bright spot on one of the most historically bad teams, he deserved to win.

    • @garydelgaudio5364
      @garydelgaudio5364 Рік тому +2

      Disfunction played a huge part !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @edwardgaines6561
      @edwardgaines6561 Рік тому +2

      @@garydelgaudio5364 No, that conman Jimmy Haaslam played a big part!

  • @user-xo7go4rr7g
    @user-xo7go4rr7g Рік тому +16

    Being arguably the Best tackle in the league for nearly a decade is wildly consistent and near impossible to do in todays game with how quickly the league changes now. Sucks he saw 0 playoff games in his career. Still one of the best OLs of all time in general. (Steelers Fan).

    • @vincehenriquez680
      @vincehenriquez680 Рік тому

      Bro I'm a newbie NFL fan and even I know how legendarily great Joe Thomas is . I remember the story that Peyton Manning tried to get the Broncos when he was there to bring Joe over. Every great football player in that era respected Joe.

  • @tilergrimm4953
    @tilergrimm4953 Рік тому +7

    Yooooo, Joe looking mad Lean!!!! That F*cking awesome.

  • @matthewspallina226
    @matthewspallina226 Рік тому +33

    Him and Zach Thomas are 2 of the best players in NFL history to never win a ring

  • @davidhary574
    @davidhary574 Рік тому +3

    Thank you Joe. Thank you for the loyalty

  • @greeneggs16
    @greeneggs16 Рік тому +5

    What a legend

  • @jamesleverentz6294
    @jamesleverentz6294 Рік тому +20

    As a SE Wisconsinite, it was cool to say with certainty for a few years there the greatest offensive lineman and the greatest defensive lineman on the planet - Joe Thomas and J.J. Watt - were both from Waukesha County, Wisconsin.

    • @williamcurtin5692
      @williamcurtin5692 Рік тому

      The water?

    • @WillWigg
      @WillWigg Рік тому

      Wisconsin is amazing. Went as a kid and plan to go back again one day. Thank you for gifting us an amazing lineman.

    • @Spittin_Chiglets
      @Spittin_Chiglets Рік тому

      As Badger alum, couldn't be more proud. Joe's a mans man for sure.

  • @nob0d1games
    @nob0d1games Рік тому +21

    Man built like a wide receiver now

    • @Themparktycoon2world
      @Themparktycoon2world Рік тому +1

      The smart retired offensive lineman know that they need to get that weight off so their knees and other joints won’t disable them. He played over 10,000 plays and I’m sure his knees let him know even at this weight.

  • @lucyd3408
    @lucyd3408 Рік тому +3

    Forget all the coaches and quarterbacks who came and left with lots o money but did nothing!! The backbone during that time was Joe Thomas !! God bless Joe and his family, they are blessed

  • @Notimp0rtant523
    @Notimp0rtant523 10 місяців тому

    What a treat and a privilege it is to have someone like Mr. Joe Thomas to turn to as an example of humility, strength, consistency, and gratitude.

  • @WhatIsaysGoes
    @WhatIsaysGoes Рік тому +1

    73!!!!!! We still miss watching you play! Respect!!!!!!

  • @toptiergaming5068
    @toptiergaming5068 Рік тому +5

    No paper, just straight from the heart

  • @BYRDFLEX1
    @BYRDFLEX1 Рік тому +5

    we love you joe 73

  • @ibwilin8995
    @ibwilin8995 Рік тому +2

    S/o Joe Thomas. Well deserved. One of the best of this era at the position.

  • @TheJohnharple
    @TheJohnharple Рік тому +4

    As a Browns fan I think he deserved to be a hall of famer just from never missing a snap and staying with the browns for his entire career... and being positive about it as much as his play

  • @garydelgaudio5364
    @garydelgaudio5364 Рік тому +3

    LOYALTY,,NOT MONEY$$$% ,some players no matter what do NOY deserve thousands let alone millions, JT ,EARNED IT

  • @robertleath9913
    @robertleath9913 Рік тому +9

    Ohio loves ya Joe

  • @supratrd900
    @supratrd900 Рік тому +7

    Respect his loyalty to the Browns and one of the greatest Left Tackle in the history of the NFL. He protected trash ass Browns QB for decades. His service would've been more appreciated had he been protecting the blindside of QB like Peyton, Brady, Brees or Rodgers.

  • @terucks
    @terucks Рік тому +3

    07 nfl draft is now one of the best!!!

  • @scruffd0g193
    @scruffd0g193 Рік тому +4

    One of the best Tackles of all time. Played on some terrible browns teams. Never said anything, the ultimate teammate. All time great

  • @tomcline1252
    @tomcline1252 Рік тому +1

    best offensive tackle of my generation and likely a couple to come

  • @jasoncallan4582
    @jasoncallan4582 Рік тому +3

    Pure class.

  • @DM-sc9rg
    @DM-sc9rg Рік тому +11

    Joe thomas is the greatest player to never make the playoffs

  • @newt6639
    @newt6639 Рік тому +4

    Joe deserved better on the Browns! He was such an incredible Tackle and loyal to the very end.

  • @millertime33
    @millertime33 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations Joe #73! 💪🏾💪🏾🐶🐶🐐

  • @sheafan1971
    @sheafan1971 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations Joe

  • @TheTJKennedy
    @TheTJKennedy Рік тому +4

    Love you 73, the First Offensive Lineman in NFL History! Go Browns!

  • @jmsnrs716
    @jmsnrs716 Рік тому +1

    One of the Greatest Badgers of All Time! Well done, Joe, well done!

  • @John94709
    @John94709 Рік тому +6

    I knew I liked this man when he missed draft day to go fishing with his dad.

  • @cichlidlover27
    @cichlidlover27 4 місяці тому

    I was in the crowd when Joe went in that day and it was awesome being theree and I plan to be there when Myles Garrett goes in....Go Browns!

  • @Spittin_Chiglets
    @Spittin_Chiglets Рік тому

    Best left tackle EVER! The State of Wisconsin is very proud of Joe. A true gentleman and a class act. One of the most genuine, honorable, and honest NFL player to don the jersey. Sad he never experienced team success.

  • @DerHeueler76
    @DerHeueler76 5 місяців тому

    And now he coaches our European League of football team Munich Ravens for season 2024 as O-Line coach. We are so glad and proud to count such a legend to our coaching team.

  • @davisjohnson7691
    @davisjohnson7691 Рік тому +9

    Such an easy 1st ballot HOFer. Outside Anthony Munoz, the best offensive lineman ever. His resume is *insanity* . Munoz is the only guy you can comp him to

    • @williamcurtin5692
      @williamcurtin5692 Рік тому +1

      I hate the Ratbirds. But you do have to throw Ogden in there.

    • @davisjohnson7691
      @davisjohnson7691 Рік тому

      @@williamcurtin5692 You do. But Joe Thomas has a better resume. Jon might have more 2nd team all pros, but Joe has more 1st team all pros. 1st team all pro is the ultimate measure of how good a player is. Jon definitely belongs in the convo. But as far as I’m concerned
      1.) Munoz
      2.) Joe Thomas
      3.) Ogden

    • @williamcurtin5692
      @williamcurtin5692 Рік тому

      @@davisjohnson7691 I'd put him at #2. But here's another name - Boselli. Short but awesome career

    • @davisjohnson7691
      @davisjohnson7691 Рік тому

      @@williamcurtin5692 Ogden at 2? I watched both of them play. Joe was better. You forgot the opposing teams top edge rusher was even on the field with Joe out there

    • @Spittin_Chiglets
      @Spittin_Chiglets Рік тому

      Joe was the best LT. There every day for his team.

  • @Crow_927
    @Crow_927 Рік тому +2

    Great OT of All Time! 73

  • @jwsf941
    @jwsf941 Рік тому +1

    Alex Mack and Mitchell Schwartz (younger brother of Fox Sports' Geoff Schwartz) were also college teammates at Cal-Berkeley in 2008

  • @thebigdant6210
    @thebigdant6210 Рік тому

    The shining moment of a sad childhood, thank you Joe and congrats on a well deserved enshrinement in Canton!

  • @lucaskincanyon7393
    @lucaskincanyon7393 Рік тому +3

    9OC in 11 years is crazy.

  • @16-biTbasketball
    @16-biTbasketball Рік тому +1

    The man who refused to win . Over tge years, teams came to him and asked "do you wanna come win?" He said nuh uhh, nope, nooo way.
    He sat ,isolated , on a desert island, on Cleveland Browns island, detached from the rest of the league, sitting alone, atop an ivory tower ,perhaps looking to the distance, fearing "winning " may've been off in that direction

  • @stanh9558
    @stanh9558 Рік тому

    A thank you to my childhood role model and favorite athlete, Joe Thomas. Let me explain: I grew up playing football and was a left guard. I don't look at offensive lineman as just big guys. I look at them as models of consistency. Like anchors for a ship. When Joe Thomas came along for the Browns. I was badly in need of a positive role model. Somebody to look up to. So I looked towards Joe Thomas. And from the day he was drafted. To seeing him hold down the offensive line. Every week for 10 1/2 seasons. Helping protect not just 18 different quarterbacks. But a number of guys at receiver and running back . Who had a few great moments or a good season in Cleveland. Because of Mr. Joe Thomas. Guys such as but not limited to-----Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow Jr., Jerome Harrison, Greg Little, Isaiah Crowell, Terrence West, Mohamed Massaquoi, Peyton Hillis, Trent Richardson, Josh Gordon, etc. But what made me admire him the most. Was for a few years. Even as bad as things got with the Browns. And announcers would bring up talks of him going to a contender for a SB win. He stuck around with the Browns. It's about the loyalty to his team. His ability to give people who never did anything anywhere else. A bright moment or two while keeping them from getting tackled or sacked. But most importantly his consistency. Even on his worst days he was still darn good. One of my biggest dreams being a Browns fan. Was seeing a player get drafted and play their whole career at a hall of fame level. Mr. Joe Thomas did that. And if you want to know where you should rank him all time among other offensive lineman. Just consider most hall of fame offensive lineman. Guard for a couple qb's their whole career. Mr. Joe Thomas guarded for 18.

  • @skydoggeatapeach
    @skydoggeatapeach 11 місяців тому

    Been a browns fan for 52 years big joe is hands down my all time favorite cleveland brown #73

  • @kaceywatts7308
    @kaceywatts7308 Рік тому +2

    Living legend!! WOOF WOOF WOOF

  • @kalehorvath
    @kalehorvath Рік тому +1

    Congrats Joe!

  • @daveh9335
    @daveh9335 Рік тому

    Thanks Joe

  • @nickshearer3091
    @nickshearer3091 Рік тому +5

    The only shinning light on an otherwise dark Cleveland franchise. Would have liked to see him in the playoffs against the best of the best.

  • @deandrebelton4483
    @deandrebelton4483 Рік тому +4

    Lets Go Joe HOF Go Browns 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @michaelmiller4457
    @michaelmiller4457 Рік тому +2

    I was there!

  • @brentd106
    @brentd106 Рік тому +2

    One of the few players to actually make it to the HOF for being in bad teams his whole career.

  • @squatsoats2144
    @squatsoats2144 Рік тому +1

    Respect from Germany.

  • @kumarbrowns
    @kumarbrowns Рік тому +1

    Good times are just around the corner. Woof Woof…

  • @bigdog1648
    @bigdog1648 Рік тому +4

    Go Badgers!!!

  • @matthewbuxton4476
    @matthewbuxton4476 Рік тому +2

    FACTS ✒️🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @SBRS47
    @SBRS47 Рік тому +2

    The first offensive lineman in NFL history 😎

  • @sandralarson-gonzales3797
    @sandralarson-gonzales3797 9 місяців тому

    What a guy

  • @WhatIsaysGoes
    @WhatIsaysGoes Рік тому +1

    20 Quarterbacks!!!!!!! I'm still laughing a day later. LoL

  • @archdawg4
    @archdawg4 Рік тому

    I think I just cried. Got to listen to him in person a few months ago, in Ridgeville Corners, Ohio. He signed some stuff for me, and I punched him in the arm. Felt like I punched a slab of granite.

  • @hermanshula9449
    @hermanshula9449 Рік тому

    One of the better statues I've ever seen!

  • @jrbr549
    @jrbr549 Рік тому +2

    His consecutive snap streak is more impressive than Favre and Ripkin's combined.

  • @buckeyewill2166
    @buckeyewill2166 Рік тому +7

    He could have gone anywhere in the League.
    But he remained one of the silver linings in a bad situation.

  • @greggbarber
    @greggbarber Рік тому +3

    Joe is Cleveland

  • @animetree9379
    @animetree9379 Рік тому +6

    Next should be Josh Cribbs and Phil Dawson

    • @shortyzander1341
      @shortyzander1341 Рік тому +1

      Clay Matthews

    • @animetree9379
      @animetree9379 Рік тому

      @@shortyzander1341 unfortunately, Clay Matthews is no longer part of the modern NFL athletes because of how long ago he played, so it now becomes extremely difficult to add him because I believe there's only three a year from the older players that can be nominated compared to more modern players that can have a majority of the nominations

  • @jacobcoey9918
    @jacobcoey9918 Рік тому +1

    The guy at 13:45, that’s how I feel. The team let that man down. He never even got to play in a playoff game. What a wasted great. If only this team had that guy blocking for DW4… If they EVER win a Super Bowl, they need to give him a ring.

  • @Cavcurlz
    @Cavcurlz Рік тому

    That ending went hard 🤎🧡🇺🇸🏈

  • @briancorcoran4357
    @briancorcoran4357 Рік тому

    Badger Nation is proud of you Joe!!

  • @dws582
    @dws582 Рік тому +1

    As a Badger..he never lost to Ohio.State.

  • @lewislamont3518
    @lewislamont3518 Рік тому +1

    I swear i dont understand how Joe Thomas or JJ Watts never played for packers hopefully we get TJ watts soon

  • @ryanmarshall3487
    @ryanmarshall3487 Рік тому +2

    Does “Get Low” play now every time he walks in to any room with his official Hall of Fame number?

  • @WestWash97
    @WestWash97 Рік тому +3

    They’re booing him just like they did when he went 3rd overall in 2007. And Brady Quinn was an absolute bust. Explain?