We brought this RLCS tactic into ranked... (it worked)

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 24 кві 2022
  • I analyzed the pro Rocket League teams at the RLCS Winter Major and turned it into a strategy to use in ranked. The result was the best strategy we've used on the channel by far.
    My Links
    ‣ Discord: / discord
    ‣ Twitter: / waytonpilkin
    ‣ Twitch: / wayton
    ‣ Instagram: / waytonpilkin
    ‣ TikTok: / waytonpilkin
    After analyzing the games from the RLCS Winter Major, I developed a gameplay strategy to test out in ranked 2v2 gameplay. I was expecting the strategy to at least be decent but I was blown away by how effective it was. It's definitely not a playstyle I normally have but we caught on to it very quickly and started using it to our advantage. We saw so much more success in this session with this new playstyle than we would have if we had just played normally. I will definitely continue to use a version of this style in my future Rocket League ranked games.
    Production music from Epidemicsound.com
    Use Creator Code: WAYTON
    Thanks to Epic Games and Psyonix for the creator code.
    :)
  • Ігри

КОМЕНТАРІ • 344

  • @WaytonPilkin
    @WaytonPilkin  2 роки тому +30

    Please consider subscribing if you enjoyed :)

    • @saraaa221
      @saraaa221 Рік тому +1

      How does waytons comment only have 15 likes😂

    • @zZeimos
      @zZeimos Рік тому

      @@saraaa221 idk

  • @WestonHawk
    @WestonHawk 2 роки тому +731

    I can't believe Wayton just tricked me into enjoying a ranked 2s gameplay video

    • @bradleydavies335
      @bradleydavies335 2 роки тому +9

      Lmao this

    • @guy.8757
      @guy.8757 2 роки тому +22

      istg most of those you tubers are just like “so I’m gonna hit it here then oh we scored, then I’m gonna pass” like it’s so boring

    • @mathislacroix5177
      @mathislacroix5177 2 роки тому +1

      @@guy.8757 ikr

    • @plantyrl6834
      @plantyrl6834 2 роки тому +1

      The cuts on this video were great though

    • @ganzgenau26
      @ganzgenau26 2 роки тому +4

      You ever saw arsenal gameplay?

  • @rocknrollwaffles8579
    @rocknrollwaffles8579 2 роки тому +292

    The older Envy Team of Turbo, Mist, and Atomic also played this style while being extremely defensive and they also won a few regionals from it.

    • @hilfiger8629
      @hilfiger8629 2 роки тому

      Teruw

    • @isi.alo4223
      @isi.alo4223 2 роки тому

      Ye

    • @TeKaMOTO
      @TeKaMOTO 2 роки тому +7

      And pretty much what Flakes has been saying in his road to SSL without mechanics series. Wait until you get the ball, bait the 50/50, free 1v1 or 2v1.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste 2 роки тому

      @@TeKaMOTO Well why isn't Flakes pro anymore, then?

    • @TeKaMOTO
      @TeKaMOTO 2 роки тому

      @@hhaste Uhh, why is that relevant to what I said?

  • @Classical_Leyton
    @Classical_Leyton 2 роки тому +337

    The missed demo you didn’t get is exactly what happened with queso sunless explained it well it’s because your center was not within a certain degree to his

    • @themightylordofgoblins6880
      @themightylordofgoblins6880 2 роки тому +30

      Imao, I too remembered sunless' "best save in the history of rocket league" video

    • @gabriellong6903
      @gabriellong6903 2 роки тому +1

      Lol but that laugh at that point lol

    • @thrallthewarchief5969
      @thrallthewarchief5969 2 роки тому +8

      But the problem is if it's not a demo it should atleast result in a bump but even that didn't happen against Vatira and he just went ahead without any issue
      So then the conclusion becomes that if you just position your car in a certain way to someone else's then you'll never get bumped or demo'd but that just bullshit

    • @compszn
      @compszn 2 роки тому +1

      basically he steered retals to the side

    • @thrallthewarchief5969
      @thrallthewarchief5969 2 роки тому +1

      @@compszn Exactly while that may make sense in Rocket League dynamics to me that's horse crap don't mind my french

  • @motownthuglife
    @motownthuglife 2 роки тому +174

    What I learned from Wayton: Counters, Back post, never quit!

    • @matiasferpusho27
      @matiasferpusho27 2 роки тому +1

      same this video makes me wanna play 2v2 with my buddy

    • @veil2612
      @veil2612 2 роки тому +1

      reading this as soon as i abandoned a 0-5 with a min left lol

    • @motownthuglife
      @motownthuglife 2 роки тому

      @@veil2612 😂

    • @matiasferpusho27
      @matiasferpusho27 2 роки тому

      @@veil2612 what rank r u xd?

    • @veil2612
      @veil2612 2 роки тому

      @@matiasferpusho27 champ 2

  • @johnbernier1143
    @johnbernier1143 2 роки тому +73

    Great vid.
    I also would like to point out that Flakes' playstyle which a lot of people make fun of is in great part based on this concept: Play cautious and passive and let opponents overcommit then counter fast and score or at least pressure without taking risks.
    There is definitely something to be learned from non-conventional playstyles.

    • @cameronbutler6255
      @cameronbutler6255 2 роки тому

      I was about to say the exact same thank you

    • @jdl0624
      @jdl0624 2 роки тому +5

      I like his terminology better as well. He calls them "outplays", meaning you're focusing on getting your opponent to make a mistake rather than use your mechanics to get results. That is the primary take away from this video as well, they focused on getting their opponents to over commit practically the whole video.

    • @nivshitrit248
      @nivshitrit248 2 роки тому

      whos making fun of flakes playstyle ?

    • @johnbernier1143
      @johnbernier1143 2 роки тому +5

      @@nivshitrit248 I've seen quite a few people not really understand why he plays how he does even in the pro scene. For example, on one of his livestreams, Fairypeak was mocking Flakes' playstyle along with his' habit of using random cars. I think it mostly comes from a very different game sense and philosophy but it can be a bit annoying to see.
      I do genuinely believe that the current meta of fast booming + aggressive challenges is not the endgame and even in recent times, we've seen a progressive shift towards smarter and more controlled playstyles.

    • @hsur3844
      @hsur3844 2 роки тому

      This. My playstyle is almost exacly the same to flakes too but less mecanical and it still work great.

  • @Owlrrex
    @Owlrrex 2 роки тому +51

    It kinda makes sense once you notice it - you often hear how much better defenses have gotten (faster recoveries, moving the ball safely, etc), and that kind of necessitates that you score when they're not set up yet. An impressive example, nontheless!

    • @falcon1378
      @falcon1378 2 роки тому +7

      Offense sells tickets, defense wins championships.
      -Paul “Bear” Bryant

  • @Devive
    @Devive 2 роки тому +48

    Wayton uploads are THE BEST! The quality is always AMAZING!!!

    • @RyanLombergini
      @RyanLombergini 2 роки тому

      Hey lol

    • @thijnhogendoorn6598
      @thijnhogendoorn6598 2 роки тому +1

      @@ac0unt_un04 If you have to clarify something is a joke, is it funny?

    • @justaguy5862
      @justaguy5862 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah he always has high quality videos that are more focused on actually fun things instead of just using his skill for content.

    • @alexgeorge5744
      @alexgeorge5744 2 роки тому

      @@justaguy5862 he has no skill (this is a joke)

    • @justaguy5862
      @justaguy5862 2 роки тому

      @@alexgeorge5744 you can say a joke without the ( this is a joke ) part ynow

  • @NLambo88
    @NLambo88 2 роки тому +37

    This is good but every style has its downsides. Giving them the ball every time you don’t score let’s more mechanical play styles score on you.

    • @poll1051
      @poll1051 2 роки тому +3

      Maybe you have a point because 1:31 demonstrates that but I guess everybody has a playstyle that works for them

    • @Chocolatepenguin
      @Chocolatepenguin 2 роки тому +3

      It definitely gives the opposing team more chances to pull of a mechanical play as wel..

    • @stighald
      @stighald 2 роки тому +4

      Well you don't necessarily need to go into your half and leave the space open. You can get a good counter from pressuring their offence. Fake challenges 50s and take ball back to corner. Anything you can do to upset their offence is what's really needed in this tactic.

  • @Repulsed
    @Repulsed 2 роки тому +12

    besides the strategy just working really well, it's also refreshing and nice to see some wayton gameplay ngl

  • @jackgregg3331
    @jackgregg3331 2 роки тому +1

    All i gotta say Wayton is good music, strat, vibes n skoll. good work as usual!

  • @rhenn831
    @rhenn831 2 роки тому

    first video ive seen and im diggin the content bro and the energy yall got is dope

  • @pearstastegood3737
    @pearstastegood3737 2 роки тому +2

    Your content is literally amazing. Keep up the amazing work ❤️

  • @Matiassss720
    @Matiassss720 2 роки тому

    I love the quality of ur videos, keep the good work

  • @jggfcyctee3924
    @jggfcyctee3924 2 роки тому +1

    When electricity is so expensive that you have to wear a jacket in your room

  • @pulsecanny7423
    @pulsecanny7423 2 роки тому +1

    Love your videos wayton

  • @lucysmith8913
    @lucysmith8913 2 роки тому +1

    Wayton keep up your great content and never give up for 1 million subscribers!

  • @Bob93017
    @Bob93017 2 роки тому

    Keep it up I love your videos you have inspired me to keep training

  • @salami6521
    @salami6521 2 роки тому

    Another banger vid. This is the only thing that lights up my boring mondays

  • @MoEssam_
    @MoEssam_ 2 роки тому

    Bro I enjoyed this sm

  • @cobydijkstra210
    @cobydijkstra210 2 роки тому

    Nice video, I like the strategy type ones. I think the reason why this works is because we generally tend to overcommit on offense. Putting your teammate into a 2v1 is already overcommiting even though it feels like you're playing safe with a defender back. By just leaving the ball and going back on defense, you never overcommit. I still think there is some value left on the table when you're just giving the ball away. Anyway, I'd say this is evidence for the hypothesis that we should be a lot more careful on offense.

  • @extrasprinkles1120
    @extrasprinkles1120 2 роки тому

    Love your vids

  • @justinlakey6838
    @justinlakey6838 2 роки тому

    I think its less about counter attacks being good and more about overcommits being bad. If you focus on counters and defense, you force the enemy to make the outplay which becomes inherently more likely to lead to an overcommit while simultaneously reducing or eliminating the chance that your team over commits. Gotta pick the right battles. Good video man!

  • @dabdileague1371
    @dabdileague1371 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome!

  • @Cosmic_AJ
    @Cosmic_AJ 2 роки тому

    I luv ur vids so much best rl content creator

  • @midorayo1149
    @midorayo1149 2 роки тому

    I think it's also more about the balls momentum up through the field ,when the ball gets to the opponents corner it kinda dies and maximizes risk for commiting
    Back passes are there to fix it thankfully

  • @fastblast432
    @fastblast432 2 роки тому

    "Moves and countermoves."
    -Plutarch from The Hunger Games Mockingjay 1

  • @Chocolatepenguin
    @Chocolatepenguin 2 роки тому +1

    I have always been stuck in mid C2 territory until now, just ranked up from C2 to C3 using this in a day, it´s insane!

  • @khaymanwilson1320
    @khaymanwilson1320 2 роки тому

    Wesley was beastin! wp you guys, I like this proof of concept =D

  • @sapgothecrow
    @sapgothecrow 2 роки тому

    I think that what you just described is much much bigger than that. I am not a good player whatsoever (I range from champ 1 to diamon 2-3), so I play with people whose playstyle is far from perfect (as you described it in other videos, it is unbalanced), and I have noticed that many of them blame me for losing because I have not the mechanical expertise without realizing that (in many ocassions) the problem is that, in general terms, mechanical "superiority" is not enough to compensate a lack of positioning + the other's team capacities + my mistakes (which all of us do).
    In this video, you went for a counter strategy, but that means focusing your attention on position to correctly identify your oportunities. This, at the same time, implies a more solid defense and, as you are more conscious about your partner's positioning, less risky plays. This makes a lot of sense IMHO, because a good positioning implies a better boost management, less unnecessary efforts, an improved team play, etc., being all of them the pillars of the game; while mechanics is just an "extra" (although they should, ideally, go hand in hand). To put a silly example: a 50 km/h straight shot from the midfield (a roller) can be stopped literally by sitting on the goal, but the best pro in the world (extremely good at mechanics) would not be able to stop it if he is taking one of the big boosts at the middle of the field at the moment of the shot. Thus, a better positioning also enhances mechanics, because they can be used in a more efficient manner.

  • @MampfiStampfi
    @MampfiStampfi 2 роки тому

    Nice video wayton! I love counter attacks, you get so much space and speed :)
    One question, witch controller do you use?

  • @jacobgrost9924
    @jacobgrost9924 2 роки тому

    I feel SO POGGERS NOW AHHA. I've been telling my teammates that this will work better than whatever the frick they were doing, and it works so well for u ahah 😅 great video!!!

  • @sniper_kid5363
    @sniper_kid5363 2 роки тому +1

    this is going to be a good vid!

  • @Lovelyphoenix.
    @Lovelyphoenix. 2 роки тому

    Wayton the 🐐

  • @Jovinience
    @Jovinience 2 роки тому

    Waw after watching this I want to try this style of playing out

  • @AmazingGaming4u
    @AmazingGaming4u 2 роки тому

    So glad Wayt on uploaded on my bday

  • @catoimorselius5048
    @catoimorselius5048 2 роки тому

    I personally have been using this tactic, but not as extreme in 2s for years because I have bad mechanics but good 1v1 play, it worked in champ 2018-2020 and still works in GC 2020-2022. It's how I got 1640 in S14 and 1520 in 2022 after taking a year break 2020-2021

  • @username384_rl4
    @username384_rl4 2 роки тому

    This reminds me of Flakes road to ssl with all the tactics you used

  • @radessthegoat
    @radessthegoat 2 роки тому

    I wanna see people sit in their half all game in my ranked games now. Thanks Wayton, that is what I've dreamed of

  • @falcon1378
    @falcon1378 2 роки тому

    This strategy is great for players like me, I can’t generate any offense, but if I disrupt anything on my half I can score like crazy

  • @chewysofa550
    @chewysofa550 2 роки тому +1

    This is how play, exclusively.

  • @Furnive
    @Furnive 2 роки тому

    Nice video!

  • @KergylKraft
    @KergylKraft 2 роки тому

    SHEESH THAT STRAT IS INSANE

  • @98Yohan
    @98Yohan 2 роки тому

    Would be interesting to see two seems facing off with this style, I don’t know if it would still be beneficial then, but for the time being it works really well against standard rotations

  • @zashhu.9954
    @zashhu.9954 2 роки тому +1

    bro I wish I had a t8 like Toxiic. wholesome, and good.

  • @joshpost6517
    @joshpost6517 2 роки тому

    My cousin and I just went 8 games undefeated near our highest rank using this strat!! The concept seemed simple but as ball chasy players it forced us to recognize and fix some key flaws in our game. Cheers

  • @CG-uo6wu
    @CG-uo6wu 2 роки тому

    honest this seems great, ur always back to defend while being able to take shots when they over commit. so the old saying becomes true once more: the best offence is a good defence :)

  • @oscarfilson515
    @oscarfilson515 2 роки тому

    Great video guy, one question - wats crl? I see it in your title.

  • @DrMarmalader
    @DrMarmalader 2 роки тому

    Explains the 1v2 meta that pros use in 2v2. It’s just extremely valuable having someone back to start a counter attack.

  • @88Opportunist
    @88Opportunist 2 роки тому

    This is precisely why I always played 3s whether randoms or in a team. 2s are way too much about either counter-attacks or 2on1's, any time either one happens it's pretty much a guaranteed goal unless someone in the match can't shoot worth a damn.

  • @flade-
    @flade- 2 роки тому

    After watching this video an hour ago
    I took to my 1s replays and it also follows a similar pattern excluding kickoffs
    Most goals as a c1 for me or the opponent comes from counterattacks

  • @Ghosty_XIII
    @Ghosty_XIII 2 роки тому

    Everytime “Let’s Go” is said you gotta drink.

  • @gabrielreynolds6672
    @gabrielreynolds6672 2 роки тому +1

    Poor Toxiic is gonna be a RLCS analyst at this point with all the strats he knows now.

  • @mr.claytonbigsby4342
    @mr.claytonbigsby4342 2 роки тому

    Been trying to win a diamond tournament with randoms for 3 months, needless to say it didn’t usually turn out to well due to lack of comms and failed rotations, just kind of decided to stay a permanent 3rd man, allowed me to save lots of goals and also counter attack a lot, using this tactic it took me about a week of grinding tournaments to finally get a diamond tourney dub

    • @theflyings1490
      @theflyings1490 2 роки тому

      I feel you. Diamonds do NOT rotate. In fact, I honestly didn't start seeing any form of reliable rotations until C2

  • @spitwicked6188
    @spitwicked6188 2 роки тому +1

    Making them forfeit every game is a excellent strategy. Great video.

  • @This_Is_Joyel
    @This_Is_Joyel 2 роки тому

    You should do more gameplay of your game Wayton, they are fun and we can also learn from how u play.

  • @Carlcoolice
    @Carlcoolice 2 роки тому

    3:24 BACK POST WAYTON!!

  • @PXXCKA
    @PXXCKA 2 роки тому

    The TW blueprint in the end is just the cherry on top

  • @mylesmcclure8748
    @mylesmcclure8748 2 роки тому

    I’m trying this out!!!

  • @Skibidi_sigma213
    @Skibidi_sigma213 2 роки тому

    Ooh nice

  • @matmar-4356
    @matmar-4356 2 роки тому

    i actually did the same strat this season and got to gc for the first time so it also closes the skill gap

  • @idkusername2795
    @idkusername2795 2 роки тому

    Playing from the errors of the others is the best thing, that’s why I do it a lot and managed to get to champ without having any mechanical skill

  • @4ndr_s
    @4ndr_s 2 роки тому

    Counter attacks have been all my ways of playing from plat1 to c1 lol in those ranks people just whiff too much. Interesting that also works ina more sophisticated way on high ranks :p

  • @heavyhittersirl
    @heavyhittersirl 2 роки тому

    1:07 I do this constantly. In 1s, 2s and 3s

  • @mrchuse1
    @mrchuse1 2 роки тому

    wow, as I commented on the previous video, flakes actually knows his stuff. powerslide cuts to the ssl!

  • @callowaysutton
    @callowaysutton 2 роки тому

    I saw the same thing a couple of months ago when watching replays, went from gold 3 to diamond 2-3 without knowing how to aerial and only basic ball control and then champ 1 when I started learning aerials. Currently champ 3 and gc1 and the strat isn't as OP because I can't keep up mechanically :(

    • @callowaysutton
      @callowaysutton 2 роки тому

      Games are also incredibly boring though because you're effectively waiting for a mistake and opening, these guys were pushing a little more than they shouldve for more content but actually employing this strat is grueling

  • @KissGeri97
    @KissGeri97 2 роки тому

    We main 2s with my friend in low champ now but we give this a try 😀 thank you for the idea

  • @misterlillet698
    @misterlillet698 2 роки тому

    Wow
    nice

  • @metro_qu3400
    @metro_qu3400 2 роки тому

    your tips help me get to champ 2 when i was d2

  • @tijmenkirkels7343
    @tijmenkirkels7343 2 роки тому

    I love how you always put that sound effect of money when one of u scores.

  • @kipsper8722
    @kipsper8722 2 роки тому +1

    do you stil use the pro routine from a previous video

  • @LakkThereof
    @LakkThereof 2 роки тому

    9:14 went full goofy

  • @HiJinkks
    @HiJinkks 2 роки тому

    This is how I run 2s, a lot of players d not rotate with me ): ]: very good strategy.

  • @charleshorsfall1059
    @charleshorsfall1059 2 роки тому +1

    jesus that fake flick from toxiic was soooo clean

  • @smoothcannibal5371
    @smoothcannibal5371 2 роки тому

    i've kind of more or less been doing this. drawing them in on our side and then they get cocky about it. get a decent clear and it's basically a guaranteed goal. now solo queueing, it would be nice if my teammate would understand that.

  • @szalacsypeter2933
    @szalacsypeter2933 2 роки тому +4

    i literally play like this a bit passive, for mistkes enemy making even in solo 2s or 3s and just trying to counter attack with my precise flicks, this is the way i got gc title and even gc 2 all seasons i played since s14 i got 5 titles overall every time i went for it. Good video, keep up! loved it!

    • @aurora7939
      @aurora7939 2 роки тому +1

      thanks for flexing on me

  • @Apologization
    @Apologization 2 роки тому +2

    Alternative title: Passing and chemistry is OP

  • @tectonikgaming9066
    @tectonikgaming9066 2 роки тому

    Wayton I need help with the flip reset I can get my wheels on the ball consistently, but for some reason I don't get the reset could you give me some advice?

  • @Why.Zed.
    @Why.Zed. 2 роки тому

    Thanks to your vid’s I went from a plat to champ

  • @meesfrancissen375
    @meesfrancissen375 Рік тому

    nice vid. did you end up getting to gc2

  • @TooS1mple
    @TooS1mple 2 роки тому

    this is from now on gonna be the new 2s meta im calling it rn

  • @andreasdahne3503
    @andreasdahne3503 2 роки тому

    you should do a video where u try this strategy but do a routine with it, then try to get a 10 for 10

  • @berkeleymalagon1958
    @berkeleymalagon1958 2 роки тому

    game changer

  • @kromz4202
    @kromz4202 2 роки тому

    Wayton are you going to the spring major in London?

  • @TheFlashinPulsar
    @TheFlashinPulsar 2 роки тому

    I think part of this isn't so much counter attacking so much as it is baiting out the 2nd man into a break away. If 2nd man is never baited out then this doesn't work. Thinking about it this way shows at what scales it can be applied. You can bait 2nd man out in the other team's third and get a goal from it.

  • @jackehunter8535
    @jackehunter8535 2 роки тому

    nice video :D

  • @Thatwhiteblackkid
    @Thatwhiteblackkid 2 роки тому +1

    Gonna be honest, counterattacks are just easier to score because the defense isn’t ready. I don’t think it’s a revolutionary idea to only go for them, but I do think that when you don’t have mechanical skills as high level as your opponents, it can definitely help level the playing field.

    • @cmdrfunk
      @cmdrfunk 2 роки тому

      Because despite their skills, most players are dumb as hell and will overcommit in the offensive zone and let you counter on them with an odd man break

  • @kyogre342
    @kyogre342 2 роки тому

    Miyagi-do of rocket league

  • @eco98
    @eco98 2 роки тому

    I don't remember which youtuber said it but, rocket league is about not getting scored on more than your opponent, defence is the way to go. Also, I noticed a few days ago in 1v1s that people pretty much only go for the counter attacks and drop back a lot as soon as you start to defend.

  • @ThePhilocypher
    @ThePhilocypher 2 роки тому

    Missed opportunity for a Mortal Kom at sound bite. XD. If you know you know!

  • @s0rano
    @s0rano 2 роки тому

    I was Sorano™️, ggs man

  • @CaliRice-1
    @CaliRice-1 2 роки тому

    Thanks so much. i went from d2 div4 to d3 div3 in like a hour, Champ soon!?

  • @jam8munch811
    @jam8munch811 2 роки тому

    In my games, EVERY goal starts in the other half 5 seconds before hahahaha

  • @ryderchill
    @ryderchill 2 роки тому

    You could say that you were mostly punishing the enemy's mistakes, which is done pretty often in a lot of competitive games.

  • @Ethan-im2vb
    @Ethan-im2vb 2 роки тому +2

    I did this tactic with my friend in 2s I was d3 at the time now im champ 1 div. Thanks for showing the tactic in play and keep the great content up!

  • @helamoroni6361
    @helamoroni6361 2 роки тому

    BSU? My guy is a CRL contender?! I had no clue. That is awesome. Which school, you with Boise?

  • @Alexander.Berglund
    @Alexander.Berglund 2 роки тому

    Nice video, seems like a fun strat!:)
    As someone who has never gotten past GC1div4 I think your gameplay looks like you could be at a higher rank. Maybe I’m just getting bamboozled by it being in a well edited video. Haha or maybe you downranked to get some easier ops for the strategy vid?😅

  • @Injamben
    @Injamben 2 роки тому

    Rocket league is the best. Good video!

  • @randomshotz13
    @randomshotz13 2 роки тому

    4th game I think showed that if the opposition are too passive you can be as passive yourself and 5th game didn't seem as countery... Lots of goals with one or 2 in net... Probably good for overall discipline and not over extending on offense though

  • @kellcioucr6072
    @kellcioucr6072 2 роки тому +1

    I wanna see this on 3s