I totally disconnected from gaming for a long time (about 10 years) and decided to get back into it last summer. I got a cheap second hand Wii U to enjoy Breath of the Wild and a number of other games on that system, and I got an XBox 360 S really cheap and am really enjoying that console. The games may be old, but they are new to me, and there isn't much on other newer consoles that would make me go with them instead of what I did opt for This video is DEFINITELY for me!!
Just found out it's a Trinity... thanks for showing how to identify it!! I find this information is also good even if I decide not to mod it in the future, because knowing there is something that can be done should the DVD drive decide to fail is good... although I tend to fully install the games I'm playing on the hard drive, and that's easy to replace should it fail, and it takes some of the stress off the DVD drive. I can get a Kinect sensor from the same store I got the XBox from, and they have them for about €6 (plus €6 shipping)... I may get one next time I get something from there, as they charge same shipping for 2 items as they do for one, and then i have it there to collect dust!!
.......why......just why? 10 years of gaming potential spilled on the floor...... I bet you have a good reason but damn I could never ever take a break that long
I used to get 360's from ewaste and restore them to usable conditions. Never found a RRoD'd Jasper out of the 100+ 360's I got. Most of the time the dvd drive belts were just slipping. That revision is (in my opinion) for sure the most reliable.
I know this comment is a year old, but I will definitely confirm this for anyone trying to buy a 360. My 1 year limited warranty according to my microsoft account page expired in 2011. As much as I hate to say it this console has seen some warfare. I happen to be a smoker, 1 or 2 drops on hardwood. Neglected to clean out the internals until semi recently. But it has never RRoD'd on me. Most I ever get is the occasional sticky tray. It works perfectly, despite being quite laggy sometimes. It is without a doubt the single most reliable fat motherboard imo.
I have the E version I’ve come to love it as well as my original 360. Only thing I hated about it was the lack of the lights in the front that spin on startup and show which controller is connected. But it’s quiet and runs great.
One thing you forgot to mention was, the 360 e is dead quiet. It is the quietest console i own. I love all variants but the 360 e is the most practical.
I am one of those Laggers that completely missed the Xbox360 and for that matter the PS3 as well... I have been a PC Gamer for a long time so I just never invested in consoles until 2020 when the Covid shutdown resulted in just enough boredom to make me buy both a 360 and a PS3. I immediately jailbroke the PS3 and that kept me busy for a while but when the 360 arrived I actually created an Xbox account and took it online and I may not even RGH it, I may just collect physical games for the 360 cuz I'm nuts like that.
Dude. You are a life saver. I bought a halo 3 themed xbox 360. Those particular ones have the older motherboard, and yes, experienced several rrods. I really wanted to keep the 360 cause the art design was so beautiful. Thanks to this video, I bought another 360 with the jasper motherboard and transferred it to my halo themed xbox case. Now I have a fantastic looking modded limited edition system that's guarentee to last long. ;)
Wow, mind blown! As a mom of a pre-teen who needs to go purchase a new Xbox 360 because his broke omg so so much to know. He loves vintage games of all sorts but I had no knowledge of the Xbox world. Thanks for sharing!
Know this is 2 years old, but still had to reply, all YOU needed to know is to get a jasper xbox, xbox 360s or e model. Because of low failure rates. Everything else is about how to pretty much hack the xbox, something that your pre teen son probably doesn't know how to do (I'd imagine if he did he would tell you to buy a rgh xbox off ebay and that he'd probably guide you to do or tell you which model to get). This video is mainly for xbox enthusiasts that like to modify the system to play backups of games or games downloaded off the web. (Which is technically piracy)
Really stepping up your game with these uploads, man. Recently did a Jasper 1.2 and everything's running fine. Though im inclined to play it in the basement since my temps are better, but i dont have a router down there lmao
You have the best console channel! I've learnt so much from you! You talk so all people understand not to fast and not annoying. Many thanks to you from Sweden :)
Found out I got a Jasper and a Trinity. Pretty excited about that. I guess I won't sell my Xbox 360's then. I can vouch for the Jasper being a reliable console as I guy randomly gave it to me missing the power button, faceplate and literally internally buried in what seem like pounds of dust. After a full clean out of dust, debris and hair I was amazed it came on and it kept coming on. Planning on getting a replacement power button and modding the Jasper or the Trinity down the line. Just wanted to say thank you for your instructables, as I am one of the few lady modders out here, who sometimes sells and you have help a bunch. Much appreciated.
@@gamerghost001 yeah, but it is a consideration for those that don't want to mod their hardware, especially if they have a PS2 anyway. The only reason to get the fat is for PS2 compatibility, so I always recommend a slim in this situation.
About the lan/wlan stuff: you can grab any kind of repeater (or router capable of working in that mode) and simply hook it up with the fat x360 lan. Its solves the lan/wlan problem, and a repeater/router have way more powerfull wifi than those dongles.
I got a 500 GB Microsoft original hard drive off Amazon recently for about $35 with free shipping. Just checked a minute ago and I am seeing only generics at $36 with free shipping but keep your eye out.
To be fair I have no interest in modding a 360, I'm more interested in trying to figure out which model to trust not to become a red ring/dot paperweight. But this was a very well done in-depth analysis of the 360, on the modding and revision side of things.
Thanks for doing this, I was looking for info and this is the only video I could find that breaks everything down for people just thinking about getting into this kind of stuff. I’m 20 mins into the video and I only have a slim version so I don’t think I’ll be drilling into that and creating custom firmware anytime soon 😂
An x360 slim E is still modable? Here in my country is the more common model but looks like you pretty much hate the slim E! Greetings from Colombia! Waiting for the PS3 episode!
My first Xbox 360 model was the the Pro aka "Premium" model from 2007 with the Zephyr motherboard (first Xbox 360 with HDMI) and it eventually succumbed to the dreaded red ring of death due to a GPU failure. I eventually replaced it with an Xbox 360 S model containing the Corona motherboard in 2012 before the hardware started to go sour just a year ago. I currently use the Trinity version of the Xbox 360 S from late 2010 and it functions flawlessly and performs better than my old Corona model. As an avid 360 gamer myself, here's the advice I'd give for acquiring the most reliable model: 1. Avoid every original model from 2005 to 2007 with the Xenon and Zephyr motherboards at all costs. They are the most susceptible to the dreaded red ring of death. Xenon has atrocious CPU capacitors and GPUs. Zephyr has improvements with CPU capacitors but it doesn't do jack squat since the GPU is still atrocious as it is. 2. Be very careful about the Falcon models from late 2007 to early 2008. Late Falcon models from 2008 are a lot more reliable than the early Falcon models from 2007 but even then, I've seen lots of late Falcon models from 2008 succumb to the red ring of death over the years. 3. If you want the most reliable original model with the least chance of getting the red ring of death, settle for the Jasper model (late 2008 - mid 2010). 4. If you don't want the original model, settle for the early S model with the Trinity motherboard (2010 to mid 2011) since those don't use the 4GB NAND and have a good reputation for high reliability rates (just not quite at the Jasper's level). Be cautious about picking up models from late 2011 to 2013 containing the Corona motherboard and the E models if you can, especially ones with the 4GB NAND flash chips since those are the source of all hardware failures in the later S and E models. The reason I don't recommend any of the E models is because it's prone to XCGPU issues and the early E models use the Corona motherboard.
I just bought a S slim with 250 gb HDD for $35. Crazy cheap and lots of games that will likely never get made backwards compatible on the xb1. I'm happy with it even just as a NCAA football and Outrun machine.
You CAN actually play burned games (kinda) on a hardmodded 360. If you copy the data on a burned disk to the HDD, you can run it, but the disk is not gonna be the place you run the game from, it's gonna be the HDD.
Five years later and I stumble across this helpful video. I had one of the fat 360 models from back in the day which died on me, so I replaced it with an S. Like you, I prefer that matte finish. I've since found scrapped units and went and swapped the black trim on the sides with the chrome trim from another model. The black trim actually looks really nice on the white S by the way, so it was a straight upgrade for both models. I also certainly appreciate having that extra 4GB of storage to play around with. Thanks to your video, I grabbed an older fat unit online and got it restored inside and out. It turns out to be a bit of a rare bird. The internal makeup shows all the signs of being a Jasper v1, but it's got a clearly marked Kronos chipset as well as solid state caps, like some kind of in-between unit. Manufacture date is 2009-07-17 so that might say something. In any case, after replacing the all-too-fragile faceplate with an intact unopened "woodgrain" one I snagged off eBay nice and cheap, the thing's looking very nice. I also have a HD-DVD drive which I can use as a USB multitap for connecting all kinds of extra peripherals to make up for it only having 3 USB ports. Ethernet to it's spot is no issue either, so won't be missing the wifi. Now it's only a matter of deciding which of these two will be my main "Live" unit and which one will be my hacked unit. Your video indicates the Jasper is the easier of the two to mod... but I'm still not too sure. Heck I may just wait it out until MS turns off the 360 servers for good and just mod both of them at that point.
This is what i did :) Bought a xbox 360 e 4gb $50 at a local pawnshop near mint! Bought a 250gb HDD $25 at a local gaming store. Bought a limited edition Red xbox wireless controller $25 on ebay. Best $100 dollars I have spent all summer! I kept all my old 360 games from last gen thankfully and pawnshops always have them from $1 to $5 lol
Not a bad find - though you more than likely have an unmoddable Winchester board on your hands, it should be a cool reliable system for just playing stock games!
Mr mario, you should do a video about fixes and for common 360 failures, like a stuck drive or quality of life mods like replacing the stock thermal paste. Recently I was given a Resident Evil red elite that had been gone through hell and back and I had to do a disk drive belt and thermal paste replacement, after that not only it ran cooler but quieter and the disk drive opens with no issues. So I think it would be helpful for everyone looking for extending the lifespan of their consoles.
I Still Think the Jasper is the Best 360 out of all of them. Years ago I thought all the OG 360's were garbage until i did my homework in 2016. The Jaspers run cooler imo than the Slim and E models. I got 4 jsaper 360's One MW2 (my main one) 2 Elites (one of them is a PAL region one that was MFG in march of 2010, Probably the last batch of Og 360's) and the red Resident evil one.
It's 2020 an I'm finally getting into the xbox 360. 🤣 I really appreciate this vid Mario. I've been watching your content for awhile now and because of that helped open doors for me about modding consoles that I never even knew existed. I softmodded my O.G. XBOX from your Rocky 5 vid. I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. Many thanks & continue the great work.
Good info... especially about the jasper board! I circumnavigated the "fat" wifi dongle problem using a laptop/cat 5 ethernet and internet connection sharing... Which could make a short and informative bit of info for your subs! 😆 & also Ive found AMD chipset pc's are more compatible than Intel for many xbox mods...
My favorite feature from the Xbox 360 that is one of my favorite features of all time was: The ability to convert USB drives into official Xbox 360 storage!!! You could have one USB drive that had your profile, game save states, even a few of your smaller games and all of your avatar stuff, ready to take with you if you needed to have it with you going to your buddies house?! And then you could have the second USB drive filled with thousands of custom songs from all of your favorite artists(fully legit and not pirated off the Internet of course…) The only reason the newer systems got rid of this feature was so that they could try to profit by selling subscription services to groove music in Spotify- Bunch of bullshit that they got rid of this because this was my favorite feature on Xbox 360 and it allowed you to keep your Xbox 360 organize to where that it was more efficient!! Your bulk game data went on your hard drive, while all your save states and smaller stuff could go on your USB drive and or memory unit!!
On the music mention for newer systems, would you believe me if I told you that you can still do that all on newer consoles? It just isn't really advertised these days, most likely for the reason you mentioned where they're pushing services like Spotify to the forefront. I listen to a lot of music that is delisted or never officially released on streaming services by artists, so on my PS5 I keep a flash drive plugged in with a bunch of music on it like I'm living in 2008. It totally blew a friend's mind when he saw it like "YOU CAN PLAY MP3S ON THIS????????" since he thought you could only play music through Spotify. Although USB drives being used for profiles is long gone, even game saves being exported is becoming a distant memory. Back to the PS5: You can export PS4 saves to USB, but there's currently no way to export PS5 saves.
@@MrMario2011 yeah I know you still CAN, it just doesn’t work the same.. or at least PlayStation copied the feature that Xbox 360 had originally pretty much mastered?! I remember it working pretty much the same way it did on the 360, on the PS4? But on the Xbox one it’s like they ditched it and made it more strict??
I used to use my 360 S to stream Crunchyroll, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, and UA-cam over the last 6 years. Unfortunately over the years, those platforms dropped support for the 360 app. Just last year, both Hulu and Crunchyroll dropped support. I do watch UA-cam or play some 360 games not supported on the Xbox One.
I have 250gb slim for online gaming, and recently picked up 60gb falcon v2 for rgh. As a pc user i enjoy evening online bf3 sessions on xbox360. Obviously 720p 30fps is no 1440p 288fps on pc, but its still quiet fun.
I'm actually here _for_ Kinect games. I played them a lot as a child, and they're the primary driver of my nostalgia in this pursuit. I plan to set up a Kinect in the same room I use for VR.
It is "an" Xbox, not "a" Xbox. You can, however, say "a" 360. Sorry my grammar OCD kicked in several times! :-) Not too serious, honestly! Great video and hope to see what follows. Liked and Subscribed.
Have to admit after looking into modding my old 360 I'm just glad it's so easy to mod the PS3 instead haha. Doesn't look too hard for people with the ability tools and most importantly, inclination, but PS3 was incredibly easy to mod in comparison.
Awesome video! I never had an OG Xbox and actually got a 360 to play the Rareware games from both gens and flash the DVD Drive for fun. It was a liteon one too so the extra challenge was nice. That and upgrading the 20Gb HDD that came with it. The console itself is a launch Arcade Xenon which has yet to get RROD believe it or not. Guess its one of lucky few that are true warriors. The fats are alot of fun to tinker around with.
A little fix: There was actually another Fat X360 revision called Khronos, and it's essentially a Jasper v2. I have an Elite manufactured in October 2009 that has it.
yes, I have the same, mine is november 2009, so is this the best 360 ? is it better than the standart jasper v1 ? because I red the differences are Introduced 65 nm eDRAM. Introduced new RF-module, new style GPU Kronos revision. Eliminated the E74 problem from earlier jasper models, according to wikipedia and also the GPU heatsink is the same as the old from xenon, is this better or not ? because yes it is smaller but in the same time it takes less space so it allows more space for airflow in the system inside
Baqt Yeah, the most stable and cool Fat system. Overheating will never be an issue. In hacking and homebrewing it's mostly as good as other Fats but it's DVD drive isn't as easy to hack.
long live Kronos :D I recently saw offer online for brand new kronos and i bought it so now I have two of the rarest and the best revision 360s, very happy, just wonder why I cant find much information for the kronos revision anywhere. Mr.Mario2011 please I want your long opinion on the topic because I havent heard you aay anything about kronos in the videos only jasper in general
Many people could say PCMR, and I agree, but something they won't mention is that you cannot run console exclusives without issues, Xenia has done a regression and a lot of games don't even boot, and so does RPCS3, so I was forced to get out my good ol PS3, and force it to stop collecting dust, and will be getting a Xbox 360 soon. I estimate it'll take a good 2-3 years before emulation really works well maybe.
11:00 is also a thing that bugs me. With the TV's and such that we have these days, why is PAL and NTSC even a thing anymore? The TV's play pretty much whatever you throw at them.
It's still a thing for legacy analog devices, and the standard has been around for so long at this point. It might not matter to us, but it matters to the grandma who just got a new TV and wants to hook up her DVD player in composite! Movie studios will still enforce region locking and those standards but at least game companies are now coming around. The three big supported consoles at the moment (Xbox One, PS4, Switch) are all region free for physical releases.
great vid, probably the clearest resource i've found. You've actually talked me out of modifying mine, too many risks - I'm just going to stay stock and buy a stack of cheap pre-owned games instead. But big thanks for the clear info though!
I have a 360 E, which I think looks great. It was a birthday present from my wife back when it was still a thing. I did a hard drive mod to get a 500GB hard drive on it. I'm not really intested in mods on top of that though, since I care about my Xbox Live account etc. I did mod my Wii though, since Nintendo doesnt really care anymore.
I just won an auction on Ebay for a 1st gen model Xbox 360 Elite (the big white) with 2 Controllers, MS Remote and 32 Games (good ones) for under 40€ and it runs great. It´s a nice system, Microsoft allways has a great build quality on their systems and at the moment pretty cheap for the Consoles and Games.
Amazing video! So helpful dude! WOW Yes I missed on XBOX 360, I had a PS3 that gen and now I wanted to get a 360 as well. BIG thank you for all this great information!
I have played with ps4,wii and pc my whole life but i got a xbox 360 for 60 euros had 1 controller,hdmi cable and power cable its a really good console and this video is very good keep up
Cool vid, may dig out my family's old Xbox 360 S and play it some. It's a Corona board, but it's been reliable, even after 3 OG 360s died (the last of which I believe *was* a Jasper even!). Really dusty, so may give it a clean but likely won't mod it any time soon.
Just got myself a slim s model after not having a 360 for many years, I got the itch since I've kept my 360 games just no console for a long while due to moves.
So far I have a Falcon and a Zephyr then 3 more on the way (random phats so I don't know what they are.) I found some 5 dollar coolrunner clones online gonna experiment (I got them so cheap if they blow up I wont cry too much.) This and like 3 other of your video's are going to be sooo much help once I get everything in place (PSU's machines chips ect.) Thank you for your video's!!! :)
I didn't get an NES until 1995, and then got another and also a Super Nintendo (finally!) in 1999! These systems are timeless and while the graphics may age, Xbox 360 has cemented its history too. I hope people don't look over a console because of its age. Matter of fact, I have a new 360 on the way. It will be nice to return after years (RROD in 2011!).
Great fucking work as always sir, very informative. It will great to see other options to play multiplayer just like system link in xboxunity server it will be awesome to see what you are able to find and share with your youtube subscriber. Thanks for your hard work.
I didn't intend on getting any console because I'm a part of the PC Master Race, but I put my old (and quite useless) laptop on sale and a dude asked if I'd swap for a fat 360 with 2 controllers and a 20gb HDD. As I had zero other offers, I said what the heck and went for it. It ended up being a Jasper, so I found a dude to JTAG it for me (I could do it myself but it's a way bigger hassle to find a mod chip here without the service of installing it). The dude did a bit of a dodgy job, so I had to touch up on some of his solder points and isolate the wiring a bit better (the console would randomly RROD and then work after a couple restarts). Got a bunch of random 360 games from a friend that switched to Xbone, bought a 750GB HDD (also ended up buying a PS1 from the same guy for some reason), installed Aurora (the guy installed FSD but I didn't like it), put those on the HDD and started playing. I like the isolated gaming platform feel and I've had loads of fun so far in the last 6 months I've been using it, especially since I've moved it to my new TV, as previously I've been playing on an older monitor with speakers. It gives me a similar feel to old consoles I've owned or still own (Atari 2600, NES, Mega Drive 2) so I ended up finishing a couple of games I never could make myself play on the PC, as something else would grab my attention (I also do my work, record and mix music and do some video editing on the PC). It is a great system, the only thing it lacks is something like a XBMC, as the media format support of the core system is abysmal.
I definitely feel that, I too am a PCMR member and have a pretty solid rig (i7 6700K, 1080 Ti) but I still love messing around and playing with consoles. As you said, it's nice having something isolated only for games and even working properly while being kept offline. I've been frequenting the PS2, Xbox, PSP, and Switch in recent months. PCMR is still the best by a technical standard, but I love the ease and convenience of consoles. Sure I'll get a lesser experience, but if I'm enjoying the game then I don't see much of an issue. Keeps me humble too, I can easily go from Silent Hill chugging at 15 FPS to any other game maxed out and looking pretty on PC :P
Yeah, it also brings me back to high school, as some games chug around at single digit FPS for a lot of time (the latter two Earth Defense Force and The Last Remnant, to be exact), just like my then shoestring budget AMD Athlon machine :D On a more serious note, it is a great entry point for people like myself to rediscover console gaming, I'm now looking to get an original Xbox and a fat PS2 so I could beef up my gaming setup for the summer house, alongside PS1 and an old retro PC.
If i was going to use a fat xbox i would have to mod the fan too lol The slim being way more quiet is the best part about it lol Well that and it shouldent get red rings.
Here I am in 2021 looking for a 360 because of so e exclusives that aren't playable via backwards compatibility on newer MS consoles. Something like Naruto Broken Bo ds, Rise of a Ninja, older NFS titles or basically any licensed video games. Seems like a lot of them didn't get a backcompat update.
mr maio i need your help sir.my xbox 360 show 3 red ring yesterday if u have any helping video on that please drop link and 2ndly i want a vide link on how to unlock all andriod ftp lock using computer.
I purchased some modchips so I could get some more out of my Jasper now that the DVD drive was failing. After the chips arrived, I plugged in my console to check the dashboard version and to backup my games and saves to a flash drive before modding it, only for the console to never boot up due to the RROD. Japser motherboards are supposed to be almost impossible to RROD, but apparently my console had no such luck. Fucking thing got the RROD after spending a month and a half in its box!
This is as comprehensive as you will ever get. great video and big thanks for having me on your show brotha
Of course, really appreciate it and thanks for being an awesome guest 😁
Modern Vintage Gamer I
Modern Vintage Gamer can you make a video About how to flash a dvd drive of a Xbox 360
I beg your pardon 🤨 I have to be the only person who uses and YES I PLAY MY 360 ONLY BECAUSE OF KENECT🤪
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I totally disconnected from gaming for a long time (about 10 years) and decided to get back into it last summer. I got a cheap second hand Wii U to enjoy Breath of the Wild and a number of other games on that system, and I got an XBox 360 S really cheap and am really enjoying that console. The games may be old, but they are new to me, and there isn't much on other newer consoles that would make me go with them instead of what I did opt for
This video is DEFINITELY for me!!
Just found out it's a Trinity... thanks for showing how to identify it!!
I find this information is also good even if I decide not to mod it in the future, because knowing there is something that can be done should the DVD drive decide to fail is good... although I tend to fully install the games I'm playing on the hard drive, and that's easy to replace should it fail, and it takes some of the stress off the DVD drive.
I can get a Kinect sensor from the same store I got the XBox from, and they have them for about €6 (plus €6 shipping)... I may get one next time I get something from there, as they charge same shipping for 2 items as they do for one, and then i have it there to collect dust!!
.......why......just why? 10 years of gaming potential spilled on the floor...... I bet you have a good reason but damn I could never ever take a break that long
Im planning myself to get a bunch of older consoles. Now where i live even secondhand fat xbone/ps4 are now really cheap :D
Same here! Nearly 10 years and just recently in Oct started again with an OG Xbox.
Andrea Woodvine thats awesome i still prefer the 360 myself when i tell ppl the games are still new to me they laugh at me
I used to get 360's from ewaste and restore them to usable conditions. Never found a RRoD'd Jasper out of the 100+ 360's I got. Most of the time the dvd drive belts were just slipping. That revision is (in my opinion) for sure the most reliable.
truly
I’m pretty sure the jasper will reign supreme in 10 years, at least I hope 🤟
I know this comment is a year old, but I will definitely confirm this for anyone trying to buy a 360. My 1 year limited warranty according to my microsoft account page expired in 2011. As much as I hate to say it this console has seen some warfare. I happen to be a smoker, 1 or 2 drops on hardwood. Neglected to clean out the internals until semi recently. But it has never RRoD'd on me. Most I ever get is the occasional sticky tray. It works perfectly, despite being quite laggy sometimes. It is without a doubt the single most reliable fat motherboard imo.
Glad to see MVG on the channel.
Same
"I dont own any of those... fortunately " me with only the E: I'll just cry in the corner
I have the E version I’ve come to love it as well as my original 360. Only thing I hated about it was the lack of the lights in the front that spin on startup and show which controller is connected. But it’s quiet and runs great.
Got mine for $25 with 15 games and three controllers
One thing you forgot to mention was, the 360 e is dead quiet. It is the quietest console i own. I love all variants but the 360 e is the most practical.
My slim goes vroom 🏎
I am one of those Laggers that completely missed the Xbox360 and for that matter the PS3 as well... I have been a PC Gamer for a long time so I just never invested in consoles until 2020 when the Covid shutdown resulted in just enough boredom to make me buy both a 360 and a PS3. I immediately jailbroke the PS3 and that kept me busy for a while but when the 360 arrived I actually created an Xbox account and took it online and I may not even RGH it, I may just collect physical games for the 360 cuz I'm nuts like that.
Have fun! The PS3 and 360 are such a treat to collect for right now, tons of great titles to be found for cheap.
Dude. You are a life saver. I bought a halo 3 themed xbox 360. Those particular ones have the older motherboard, and yes, experienced several rrods. I really wanted to keep the 360 cause the art design was so beautiful. Thanks to this video, I bought another 360 with the jasper motherboard and transferred it to my halo themed xbox case. Now I have a fantastic looking modded limited edition system that's guarentee to last long. ;)
are you still modding xbox?
Do you have a fat model?
Wow, mind blown! As a mom of a pre-teen who needs to go purchase a new Xbox 360 because his broke omg so so much to know. He loves vintage games of all sorts but I had no knowledge of the Xbox world. Thanks for sharing!
Glad this is helping parents!
Know this is 2 years old, but still had to reply, all YOU needed to know is to get a jasper xbox, xbox 360s or e model. Because of low failure rates. Everything else is about how to pretty much hack the xbox, something that your pre teen son probably doesn't know how to do (I'd imagine if he did he would tell you to buy a rgh xbox off ebay and that he'd probably guide you to do or tell you which model to get). This video is mainly for xbox enthusiasts that like to modify the system to play backups of games or games downloaded off the web. (Which is technically piracy)
Really stepping up your game with these uploads, man. Recently did a Jasper 1.2 and everything's running fine. Though im inclined to play it in the basement since my temps are better, but i dont have a router down there lmao
You have the best console channel! I've learnt so much from you! You talk so all people understand not to fast and not annoying. Many thanks to you from Sweden :)
Very much appreciate the love, thank you. 🖤
Found out I got a Jasper and a Trinity. Pretty excited about that. I guess I won't sell my Xbox 360's then. I can vouch for the Jasper being a reliable console as I guy randomly gave it to me missing the power button, faceplate and literally internally buried in what seem like pounds of dust. After a full clean out of dust, debris and hair I was amazed it came on and it kept coming on. Planning on getting a replacement power button and modding the Jasper or the Trinity down the line. Just wanted to say thank you for your instructables, as I am one of the few lady modders out here, who sometimes sells and you have help a bunch. Much appreciated.
Do you still mod xbox?
Are you going to do a PlayStation 3 version of this? I sure hope you will.
ps3 dont fail as often lol
@@ulissesvillegas8395 The original PS3 models (the ones with proper PS2 backwards compatibility) fail all the time.
@@ketchup901 Espeically with the Blu Ray Drive
@@ketchup901 well now it’s possible to fix them permanently just have to replace a chip I forgot which one
@@gamerghost001 yeah, but it is a consideration for those that don't want to mod their hardware, especially if they have a PS2 anyway. The only reason to get the fat is for PS2 compatibility, so I always recommend a slim in this situation.
About the lan/wlan stuff: you can grab any kind of repeater (or router capable of working in that mode) and simply hook it up with the fat x360 lan. Its solves the lan/wlan problem, and a repeater/router have way more powerfull wifi than those dongles.
Queue the 'but it uses another power socket' complaints. ;)
please cover the psp next, not only becouse i like the system, but also becouse i know you do too, and that would meke for a great video :)
@@AdmrlSpeedy modifying a psp was easy as far back as 2005. Even I could do it xD
@@AdmrlSpeedy ah I see.
Heck I’m wanting to pickup a 360 only for modding, and editing my Xbox one back compat gamesaves
I got a 500 GB Microsoft original hard drive off Amazon recently for about $35 with free shipping.
Just checked a minute ago and I am seeing only generics at $36 with free shipping but keep your eye out.
To be fair I have no interest in modding a 360, I'm more interested in trying to figure out which model to trust not to become a red ring/dot paperweight.
But this was a very well done in-depth analysis of the 360, on the modding and revision side of things.
Thanks!
Thanks for doing this, I was looking for info and this is the only video I could find that breaks everything down for people just thinking about getting into this kind of stuff.
I’m 20 mins into the video and I only have a slim version so I don’t think I’ll be drilling into that and creating custom firmware anytime soon 😂
Holy crap you know MVG. I was watching him a few days ago..
MVG is the truth.
An x360 slim E is still modable? Here in my country is the more common model but looks like you pretty much hate the slim E! Greetings from Colombia! Waiting for the PS3 episode!
Not all.
My first Xbox 360 model was the the Pro aka "Premium" model from 2007 with the Zephyr motherboard (first Xbox 360 with HDMI) and it eventually succumbed to the dreaded red ring of death due to a GPU failure. I eventually replaced it with an Xbox 360 S model containing the Corona motherboard in 2012 before the hardware started to go sour just a year ago. I currently use the Trinity version of the Xbox 360 S from late 2010 and it functions flawlessly and performs better than my old Corona model.
As an avid 360 gamer myself, here's the advice I'd give for acquiring the most reliable model:
1. Avoid every original model from 2005 to 2007 with the Xenon and Zephyr motherboards at all costs. They are the most susceptible to the dreaded red ring of death. Xenon has atrocious CPU capacitors and GPUs. Zephyr has improvements with CPU capacitors but it doesn't do jack squat since the GPU is still atrocious as it is.
2. Be very careful about the Falcon models from late 2007 to early 2008. Late Falcon models from 2008 are a lot more reliable than the early Falcon models from 2007 but even then, I've seen lots of late Falcon models from 2008 succumb to the red ring of death over the years.
3. If you want the most reliable original model with the least chance of getting the red ring of death, settle for the Jasper model (late 2008 - mid 2010).
4. If you don't want the original model, settle for the early S model with the Trinity motherboard (2010 to mid 2011) since those don't use the 4GB NAND and have a good reputation for high reliability rates (just not quite at the Jasper's level). Be cautious about picking up models from late 2011 to 2013 containing the Corona motherboard and the E models if you can, especially ones with the 4GB NAND flash chips since those are the source of all hardware failures in the later S and E models. The reason I don't recommend any of the E models is because it's prone to XCGPU issues and the early E models use the Corona motherboard.
I just bought a S slim with 250 gb HDD for $35. Crazy cheap and lots of games that will likely never get made backwards compatible on the xb1.
I'm happy with it even just as a NCAA football and Outrun machine.
You CAN actually play burned games (kinda) on a hardmodded 360. If you copy the data on a burned disk to the HDD, you can run it, but the disk is not gonna be the place you run the game from, it's gonna be the HDD.
This series will gonna help a lot
Five years later and I stumble across this helpful video. I had one of the fat 360 models from back in the day which died on me, so I replaced it with an S. Like you, I prefer that matte finish. I've since found scrapped units and went and swapped the black trim on the sides with the chrome trim from another model. The black trim actually looks really nice on the white S by the way, so it was a straight upgrade for both models. I also certainly appreciate having that extra 4GB of storage to play around with.
Thanks to your video, I grabbed an older fat unit online and got it restored inside and out. It turns out to be a bit of a rare bird. The internal makeup shows all the signs of being a Jasper v1, but it's got a clearly marked Kronos chipset as well as solid state caps, like some kind of in-between unit. Manufacture date is 2009-07-17 so that might say something. In any case, after replacing the all-too-fragile faceplate with an intact unopened "woodgrain" one I snagged off eBay nice and cheap, the thing's looking very nice. I also have a HD-DVD drive which I can use as a USB multitap for connecting all kinds of extra peripherals to make up for it only having 3 USB ports. Ethernet to it's spot is no issue either, so won't be missing the wifi.
Now it's only a matter of deciding which of these two will be my main "Live" unit and which one will be my hacked unit. Your video indicates the Jasper is the easier of the two to mod... but I'm still not too sure. Heck I may just wait it out until MS turns off the 360 servers for good and just mod both of them at that point.
Hey, nice pickups! Thanks for sharing your experience 🙂
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MrMario2011 how can I add roms on my SNES360 and FBA NEXT emulators? Tnx.
MrMario2011 you said in the video you might leave a comment on a hard mod service that you think does good work. Any recommendations?
Lmfao
This is what i did :)
Bought a xbox 360 e 4gb $50 at a local pawnshop near mint!
Bought a 250gb HDD $25 at a local gaming store.
Bought a limited edition Red xbox wireless controller $25 on ebay.
Best $100 dollars I have spent all summer!
I kept all my old 360 games from last gen thankfully and pawnshops always have them from $1 to $5 lol
A whole lot of fun to be had for $100! And yep, games are so cheap right now, especially the non-BC ones.
Not a bad find - though you more than likely have an unmoddable Winchester board on your hands, it should be a cool reliable system for just playing stock games!
Mr mario, you should do a video about fixes and for common 360 failures, like a stuck drive or quality of life mods like replacing the stock thermal paste. Recently I was given a Resident Evil red elite that had been gone through hell and back and I had to do a disk drive belt and thermal paste replacement, after that not only it ran cooler but quieter and the disk drive opens with no issues. So I think it would be helpful for everyone looking for extending the lifespan of their consoles.
I Still Think the Jasper is the Best 360 out of all of them. Years ago I thought all the OG 360's were garbage until i did my homework in 2016. The Jaspers run cooler imo than the Slim and E models. I got 4 jsaper 360's One MW2 (my main one) 2 Elites (one of them is a PAL region one that was MFG in march of 2010, Probably the last batch of Og 360's) and the red Resident evil one.
Do you recommend to buy a fat? I'm looking at a fat Jasper, and an xbox 360 e corona. I'm just starting to get into Xbox, I've been modding ps3
It's 2020 an I'm finally getting into the xbox 360. 🤣 I really appreciate this vid Mario. I've been watching your content for awhile now and because of that helped open doors for me about modding consoles that I never even knew existed. I softmodded my O.G. XBOX from your Rocky 5 vid. I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. Many thanks & continue the great work.
WHOO!
Good info... especially about the jasper board!
I circumnavigated the "fat" wifi dongle problem using a laptop/cat 5 ethernet and internet connection sharing...
Which could make a short and informative bit of info for your subs! 😆
& also Ive found AMD chipset pc's are more compatible than Intel for many xbox mods...
43:20. Watching the video 5 years from when it came out lol
This video takes me back. I still remember completing my first JTAG.
Used to love hanging out in XBINS.
dude this video is great! i love that there is a single stop for all the knowledge up to this point for the console. nice work!
Thanks, James!
I already own a Slim since 2012 and I just bought a xbox 360 Elite because it looks the best
They do look nice.
Is it worth it flashing your xbox 360 elite in 2019??@@MrMario2011
Watching in 2023 cause im trying to decide whether to attempt a repair on my 360s or find a different conole all together
My favorite feature from the Xbox 360 that is one of my favorite features of all time was:
The ability to convert USB drives into official Xbox 360 storage!!!
You could have one USB drive that had your profile, game save states, even a few of your smaller games and all of your avatar stuff, ready to take with you if you needed to have it with you going to your buddies house?!
And then you could have the second USB drive filled with thousands of custom songs from all of your favorite artists(fully legit and not pirated off the Internet of course…)
The only reason the newer systems got rid of this feature was so that they could try to profit by selling subscription services to groove music in Spotify-
Bunch of bullshit that they got rid of this because this was my favorite feature on Xbox 360 and it allowed you to keep your Xbox 360 organize to where that it was more efficient!! Your bulk game data went on your hard drive, while all your save states and smaller stuff could go on your USB drive and or memory unit!!
On the music mention for newer systems, would you believe me if I told you that you can still do that all on newer consoles? It just isn't really advertised these days, most likely for the reason you mentioned where they're pushing services like Spotify to the forefront.
I listen to a lot of music that is delisted or never officially released on streaming services by artists, so on my PS5 I keep a flash drive plugged in with a bunch of music on it like I'm living in 2008. It totally blew a friend's mind when he saw it like "YOU CAN PLAY MP3S ON THIS????????" since he thought you could only play music through Spotify.
Although USB drives being used for profiles is long gone, even game saves being exported is becoming a distant memory. Back to the PS5: You can export PS4 saves to USB, but there's currently no way to export PS5 saves.
@@MrMario2011 yeah I know you still CAN, it just doesn’t work the same.. or at least PlayStation copied the feature that Xbox 360 had originally pretty much mastered?!
I remember it working pretty much the same way it did on the 360, on the PS4?
But on the Xbox one it’s like they ditched it and made it more strict??
I used to use my 360 S to stream Crunchyroll, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, and UA-cam over the last 6 years.
Unfortunately over the years, those platforms dropped support for the 360 app. Just last year, both Hulu and Crunchyroll dropped support.
I do watch UA-cam or play some 360 games not supported on the Xbox One.
I'm Still rocking out my Xbox 360 slim in 2018 ;)
I have 250gb slim for online gaming, and recently picked up 60gb falcon v2 for rgh. As a pc user i enjoy evening online bf3 sessions on xbox360. Obviously 720p 30fps is no 1440p 288fps on pc, but its still quiet fun.
I'm actually here _for_ Kinect games. I played them a lot as a child, and they're the primary driver of my nostalgia in this pursuit. I plan to set up a Kinect in the same room I use for VR.
It's a shame they get so much smack.
There's a large variety of great hits that cover a variety of genres!
It is "an" Xbox, not "a" Xbox. You can, however, say "a" 360. Sorry my grammar OCD kicked in several times! :-) Not too serious, honestly! Great video and hope to see what follows. Liked and Subscribed.
It's a habit I'm trying to break!
A great channel for my 14 year old nerdy needs!
We out here trying.
Same
Now I'm 18, still a nerd :D
Have to admit after looking into modding my old 360 I'm just glad it's so easy to mod the PS3 instead haha. Doesn't look too hard for people with the ability tools and most importantly, inclination, but PS3 was incredibly easy to mod in comparison.
Got a PS3 slim arriving later this week, nearly picked up a 360 but after seeing this I'm so glad I didn't.
Very useful. Haven't had any interest in the newer gen consoles so I think I might go with an Xbox 360 and mod the hell out of it to make it perfect.
Awesome video! I never had an OG Xbox and actually got a 360 to play the Rareware games from both gens and flash the DVD Drive for fun. It was a liteon one too so the extra challenge was nice. That and upgrading the 20Gb HDD that came with it. The console itself is a launch Arcade Xenon which has yet to get RROD believe it or not. Guess its one of lucky few that are true warriors. The fats are alot of fun to tinker around with.
Love the video and was really neat to have modern vintage gamer onboard
I'm considering a 360 or the XBox One. Since u can play quite a few 360 games on the One I might just go with that.
With more games being added it isn't a bad solution, although it will never have 100% backwards compatibility due to licensing.
A little fix: There was actually another Fat X360 revision called Khronos, and it's essentially a Jasper v2. I have an Elite manufactured in October 2009 that has it.
That's still under the category of Jasper, only really need to split hairs if you're a collector.
MrMario2011 True, true. Remarkably cool for a Fat system by the way.
yes, I have the same, mine is november 2009, so is this the best 360 ? is it better than the standart jasper v1 ? because I red the differences are Introduced 65 nm eDRAM. Introduced new RF-module, new style GPU Kronos revision. Eliminated the E74 problem from earlier jasper models, according to wikipedia and also the GPU heatsink is the same as the old from xenon, is this better or not ? because yes it is smaller but in the same time it takes less space so it allows more space for airflow in the system inside
Baqt Yeah, the most stable and cool Fat system. Overheating will never be an issue. In hacking and homebrewing it's mostly as good as other Fats but it's DVD drive isn't as easy to hack.
long live Kronos :D I recently saw offer online for brand new kronos and i bought it so now I have two of the rarest and the best revision 360s, very happy, just wonder why I cant find much information for the kronos revision anywhere.
Mr.Mario2011 please I want your long opinion on the topic because I havent heard you aay anything about kronos in the videos only jasper in general
Many people could say PCMR, and I agree, but something they won't mention is that you cannot run console exclusives without issues, Xenia has done a regression and a lot of games don't even boot, and so does RPCS3, so I was forced to get out my good ol PS3, and force it to stop collecting dust, and will be getting a Xbox 360 soon. I estimate it'll take a good 2-3 years before emulation really works well maybe.
I never knew the 360 had such a weird region locking. I need to check a few things.
Thanks for this good and detailed video!!
I think mine was a Zhyphr if memory serves correctly finally put her to pasture after the replacement PSU blew again a couple years later
RIP, but why's that? The PSU can easily be replaced since it's external.
Guess who is modding xbox 360's in 2023? Me! And I enjoy it
Same
Same here as well. I have 8 360's I plan on learning on all of them.
Really enjoyed the video, very informative! Thanks MrMario!
11:00 is also a thing that bugs me. With the TV's and such that we have these days, why is PAL and NTSC even a thing anymore? The TV's play pretty much whatever you throw at them.
It's still a thing for legacy analog devices, and the standard has been around for so long at this point. It might not matter to us, but it matters to the grandma who just got a new TV and wants to hook up her DVD player in composite! Movie studios will still enforce region locking and those standards but at least game companies are now coming around. The three big supported consoles at the moment (Xbox One, PS4, Switch) are all region free for physical releases.
great vid, probably the clearest resource i've found. You've actually talked me out of modifying mine, too many risks - I'm just going to stay stock and buy a stack of cheap pre-owned games instead. But big thanks for the clear info though!
Glad to help! You can find them on sale quite often as well, even right now GameStop is selling 4 for $10 games.
I got my xkey360 when it came out, I play backups online never had a problem, I like how it works
Omg... he predicted that it will be 5 years from then... magic!!!
I have a 360 E, which I think looks great. It was a birthday present from my wife back when it was still a thing. I did a hard drive mod to get a 500GB hard drive on it. I'm not really intested in mods on top of that though, since I care about my Xbox Live account etc.
I did mod my Wii though, since Nintendo doesnt really care anymore.
You can play games from any region on hard modded xbox 360's with dashlaunch.
I am learning Australian by listening to MVG videos. Pretty good!
An important skillset to have.
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I just won an auction on Ebay for a 1st gen model Xbox 360 Elite (the big white) with 2 Controllers, MS Remote and 32 Games (good ones) for under 40€ and it runs great.
It´s a nice system, Microsoft allways has a great build quality on their systems and at the moment pretty cheap for the Consoles and Games.
Excellent Video My Brother Appreciate all the time you put into this
I just shared it on my business page as well I am sure my people will love seeing it Appreciate you brother and looking forward to what comes next ;)
Amazing video! So helpful dude! WOW Yes I missed on XBOX 360, I had a PS3 that gen and now I wanted to get a 360 as well. BIG thank you for all this great information!
Glad to know!
I have a xbox 360 elite since it came out still works and never failed me
I have played with ps4,wii and pc my whole life but i got a xbox 360 for 60 euros had 1 controller,hdmi cable and power cable its a really good console and this video is very good keep up
Thanks!
Very nice , like always !
The 360 Elite is to this day the best looking console ever
Cool vid, may dig out my family's old Xbox 360 S and play it some. It's a Corona board, but it's been reliable, even after 3 OG 360s died (the last of which I believe *was* a Jasper even!). Really dusty, so may give it a clean but likely won't mod it any time soon.
I just bought one of the special blue editions. The last model of 360 that was made.
43:00 Could be watching this video 6 years from now!
Love to see it.
Hello from the future. It is 2022. I have been given a 360 and need it modded.
You should do a video on so you want a gamecube
Great video and lots of information. However I am missing the overheating and cooling revisions in your video. Any recommendations?
Just got myself a slim s model after not having a 360 for many years, I got the itch since I've kept my 360 games just no console for a long while due to moves.
I literally bought a 3 pack of xbox controllers and wondered why it came with a wifi adapter, now I want to buy a thicc 360 Jasper.
Excellent video. One of the best I have watched of yours. Wife laughed at the hat but what does she know :-)
The hat's purpose has been fulfilled.
thanks for this and all your other videos
I'll solely pick one up for Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike and DarkStalkers Resurrection.
How many people buy complete but RRoD 360s just to pick up cords and controllers for their Jaspers, and chuck the consoles?
So far I have a Falcon and a Zephyr then 3 more on the way (random phats so I don't know what they are.) I found some 5 dollar coolrunner clones online gonna experiment (I got them so cheap if they blow up I wont cry too much.) This and like 3 other of your video's are going to be sooo much help once I get everything in place (PSU's machines chips ect.) Thank you for your video's!!! :)
Why should no one care about the 360? I still care about the NES 😅
Lukas Ringlstetter Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself.
I still care about the magnavox odyssey.
I am like a collector have Xbox Original Xbox 360 Xbox one Xbox one s and Xbox one x and all the nintendos and my best console is the Xbox 360 zephyr
I didn't get an NES until 1995, and then got another and also a Super Nintendo (finally!) in 1999! These systems are timeless and while the graphics may age, Xbox 360 has cemented its history too. I hope people don't look over a console because of its age. Matter of fact, I have a new 360 on the way. It will be nice to return after years (RROD in 2011!).
It would be pretty cool if you could look at some ODEs since there aren't really any good videos on them
I purchased an xbox 360e in 2018 after seeing a you-tuber playing Fight Night Round 4. I had to have that game.
Great fucking work as always sir, very informative. It will great to see other options to play multiplayer just like system link in xboxunity server it will be awesome to see what you are able to find and share with your youtube subscriber. Thanks for your hard work.
I didn't intend on getting any console because I'm a part of the PC Master Race, but I put my old (and quite useless) laptop on sale and a dude asked if I'd swap for a fat 360 with 2 controllers and a 20gb HDD. As I had zero other offers, I said what the heck and went for it. It ended up being a Jasper, so I found a dude to JTAG it for me (I could do it myself but it's a way bigger hassle to find a mod chip here without the service of installing it). The dude did a bit of a dodgy job, so I had to touch up on some of his solder points and isolate the wiring a bit better (the console would randomly RROD and then work after a couple restarts). Got a bunch of random 360 games from a friend that switched to Xbone, bought a 750GB HDD (also ended up buying a PS1 from the same guy for some reason), installed Aurora (the guy installed FSD but I didn't like it), put those on the HDD and started playing.
I like the isolated gaming platform feel and I've had loads of fun so far in the last 6 months I've been using it, especially since I've moved it to my new TV, as previously I've been playing on an older monitor with speakers. It gives me a similar feel to old consoles I've owned or still own (Atari 2600, NES, Mega Drive 2) so I ended up finishing a couple of games I never could make myself play on the PC, as something else would grab my attention (I also do my work, record and mix music and do some video editing on the PC).
It is a great system, the only thing it lacks is something like a XBMC, as the media format support of the core system is abysmal.
I definitely feel that, I too am a PCMR member and have a pretty solid rig (i7 6700K, 1080 Ti) but I still love messing around and playing with consoles. As you said, it's nice having something isolated only for games and even working properly while being kept offline. I've been frequenting the PS2, Xbox, PSP, and Switch in recent months. PCMR is still the best by a technical standard, but I love the ease and convenience of consoles. Sure I'll get a lesser experience, but if I'm enjoying the game then I don't see much of an issue. Keeps me humble too, I can easily go from Silent Hill chugging at 15 FPS to any other game maxed out and looking pretty on PC :P
Yeah, it also brings me back to high school, as some games chug around at single digit FPS for a lot of time (the latter two Earth Defense Force and The Last Remnant, to be exact), just like my then shoestring budget AMD Athlon machine :D
On a more serious note, it is a great entry point for people like myself to rediscover console gaming, I'm now looking to get an original Xbox and a fat PS2 so I could beef up my gaming setup for the summer house, alongside PS1 and an old retro PC.
If i was going to use a fat xbox i would have to mod the fan too lol
The slim being way more quiet is the best part about it lol
Well that and it shouldent get red rings.
I like to stick to 2010 to 2012 slims. They're not too hard to find. They seem to be plenty reliable, have built in wifi and can be all be rgh d
Here I am in 2021 looking for a 360 because of so e exclusives that aren't playable via backwards compatibility on newer MS consoles.
Something like Naruto Broken Bo ds, Rise of a Ninja, older NFS titles or basically any licensed video games. Seems like a lot of them didn't get a backcompat update.
mr mario am so excited seeing ur face you know i have been watching your video on how to jailbreak ps3 and they work perfectly. thxs sir
mr maio i need your help sir.my xbox 360 show 3 red ring yesterday if u have any helping video on that please drop link and 2ndly i want a vide link on how to unlock all andriod ftp lock using computer.
i keep my 360 for retro sports games. Most are not compatible on x box one. I enjoyed this video very informative
I purchased some modchips so I could get some more out of my Jasper now that the DVD drive was failing. After the chips arrived, I plugged in my console to check the dashboard version and to backup my games and saves to a flash drive before modding it, only for the console to never boot up due to the RROD. Japser motherboards are supposed to be almost impossible to RROD, but apparently my console had no such luck. Fucking thing got the RROD after spending a month and a half in its box!
I still have the xbox 360 arcade its been 7 years
Shoutout for that RTJ shirt
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