If I ever get into a street fight I will make sure to let my opponent know what he is supposed to do before we fight.
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I'm going to dislike, because you tricked me into watching this video. You said 'real fight', not training, not slow motion practice, not explanation, you said; REAL FIGHT.
***** Nonchalance supposedly. Unwitting charlatans disinterest me when they are so low scale, so many are far more harmful than this Jake fella. He knows exactly what he is doing with the video title however so my contempt is thorough and only tempts me to dislike.
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Ni Clouds Complicated, but honest and true to oneself. +1
for people like me that's taken sword fighting classes and is wanting to use the techniques I've learned into stick fighting these videos are invaluable. unfortunately i cannot find classes for stick fighting here so im taking sword fighting.
@@jackkennedy1931 why is it titled "BO STAFF - Real Fight" ;) At least I would expect it to be a demonstration of a realistic fight, not movements that look stylistically nice but would make no sense in a real-life scenario...
No one would smack staves in the middle in a real fight. The whole point of a fight is to attack your opponent and win the fight, swinging at some arbitrary point in space only to contact the enemy's bo is pointless. Every single time you guys do that, imagine if the other guy didn't have the bo to "block," what would happen? The swing would just fly over his head and miss him completely, because you weren't aiming at anything to begin with!
Look into what is called "binden" in historical European martial arts. It involves striking a blow to claim the center space between the fighters. If your opponent does not contest this by a similar strike, you can then effortlessly flow into a thrust and finish him. I believe that is what we see vestiges of in this video. Unfortunately, it is obscured by the rest of the performance being so appallingly poor. Check out the youtube channel "Dimicator" for more on this.
Jake, you are in good shape and obviously a gifted athlete, but your martial arts is lacking basic fundamental principles. You add movement where there does not need to be any, you look down all the time, you have an anterior pelvic tilt , your arms are always at an obtuse angle rather than a 90 right angle, you make all these sound effects like SKT and have developed bad habits from him, DS and SHS. You need to remove their bad habits from your practice and study from someone that knows what they are doing. Many people have attempted to reach out to you , I do not understand why you can not be humble and learn from them. Many people that do not know will say how great you are and that is fine, but you are misinforming them. Sincerely.
Dude you actually take this guy seriously ? You know hes nothing but a charlatan right ? Hes not gonna take your personal critique to improve something that really isn't their, a applicable martial art. Plus hes too busy making off of his dvd's and 1mil subs...dont even waste your breathe
Boiling Point It's choreography. I'd say this goes down as more of a performance than anything else, like two actors practicing a scene from a b-rated movie.
Not only is it choreographed AKA not real, but it is really shitty choreography. Anyone could hit the other person at anytime if they tried. Like the moment where he pushes the staff to the ground. Just run it along the other persons staff and it's an easy hit.
Sure. But when exactly would you actually have a "real" bo staff fight in real life. 99.999% of martial arts is basically dance classes for men. Practical self-defense skills are basically a) don't get into violent confrontations, b) situational awareness, and c) sprinting. For the handful of people in professions that require real physical confrontation skills, a gun beats all other methods, and for less lethal methods, a taser or some pepper spray beats all martial arts methods. If you are a bouncer or a cop, it could be useful to know a couple jiu jitsu moves, but for the ordinary person, it's really about avoiding violence. Everything involving a staff is just for fun.
+Duff McDuffee have you ever been to a martial art class? muay thai? bjj? i know taekwondo at this point has become more of a sport than a martial art, but still no one in their right mind would call it a "dance."
+Duff McDuffee Your argument about the practicality of these techniques is completely wrong. Anytime an individual gets into a fight, he has the opportunity to use these techniques. Martial arts are not about choreography and dancing. What you are criticizing is only in the movies. A real martial artist will almost always have an advantage over an unskilled fighter.
There are actual trained professionals that would say all this is bullshit and train you how to defend yourself the proper way with a bo staff and what they are doing is good for sparring and that's about it and all sparring really is is just a warm up to use said weapon or to practice a certain technique
ItsJennifer This is not real. Any trained professional could tell you this is choreographed and train you in a real fight. This is a pathetic display with shit tons of wasted movements and so much exposure for the opponent, that cannot easily be covered due to the positioning they are using. I’ve never trained in any sort of martial art, and if this man was using the technique he was in this video, I guarantee I could beat his ass within a matter of seconds because this is clearly fake.
lol, real fight? Start with a bizarre way of holding sticks. Then tapping sticks together without any danger of actually getting hit. Then the attacker pushes actually knocks the stick to the ground and is about to "take his head off" (fight over), but instead of swinging the stick to the open face, he swings past it to let the guard come back up and hit. hrm.
Thank you. Didn't have to write it myself. Ecenomy of motion. The idea of fighting is not to give your opponent time to guard. Quite the contrary. It's sad that the origin of kung fu is so forgotten.
igor caique You learn what you train. If you teach yourself improper technique, you will have improper technique. If it is a demonstration of how you fight with a staff, it should show that. Not how you twirl a staff around pretending to fight. Then that is showmanship, and not fighting. This is showmanship. Certainly not real fighting. In any way, shape or form. For comparison, if I as a member of the SCA would have a demonstration, I would aim to hit my opponent. If he doesn't guard, he'll get hit. That demonstrates that the technique works. If he guards, it shows that the guard works. Risk of injury is simply solved by putting on a damned helmet.
RaineAlgessar Absolutely. +igor caique Training is *training*. It's practicing the movement set. No sense in practicing something that leaves you *VERY* vulnerable and calling it a martial arts routine. It's maybe suitable for really, really bad TV shows, but I'm no expert, and even I can see it's truly horrible form.
The problem is usually that a real fight is too fast to be exciting for most people, since they can't follow what is happening. Show-fighting in movies and such exaggerates movement to make it clear what is happening. Issues with this video is that they are not training to actually hit their opponent, and are doing waaay too wide movements. Just like in kung fu movies. They are exposed in a trillion ways and the moves are easily countered by someone who actually knows how to fight with a weapon. It's rubbish, and a scam since they are selling DVDs claiming it to be efficient martial arts.
RaineAlgessar proper... improper.. It doesn't matter.. If it works, it works.. And dude, i am sure this guy is fast... But my money would not be on him on a real bo staff fight.. I learned the basics from him...but fighting.. No.. I did not learn fighting from him.. Fighting you learn by just practicing alone.. By yourself.. Becoming one with the staff.. When you fight, movements come naturally. Not methodically.
Your strikes should be aimed at your opponent and not at his bo staff. Same goes for sword training. Otherwise, there's nothing "real" about this. Try it. You'll see how effective your defense is when you're actually trying to hit each other (not with full power or speed, at first, but with real intent. Be safe :)
However if you are not focusing on the weapon (which holds a threat) you are vulnerable to an potentially lethal injury due to them contering because you are less focused on the weapon By no means am I defending this fake 'fight' but I'm just clarifying that you should focus on both
I believe Jake Mace to be a true master of the martial arts! I would say he titled the video "REAL FIGHT” as a marketing technique to get the attention of seekers searching for true knowledge of "the way" and to draw attention to his online school. This man is so dedicated, gracious and full of knowledge and willing to teach it to others at a fraction of the cost...and or FREE! I consider myself blessed to stumble upon all of his deeply insightful videos. Thank you Jake Mace, you are an inspiration! Keep doing what you're doing; there are many of us that are truly grateful!
If you train for fighting by choreographing a fight, it seems to me that in a real fight, your opponent will DIE OF BOREDOM while you teach him how to attack you.
I've done klingon Batleth, single handed spear double handed spear and karate. Most of the moves in this seem to be something I've done before so I think I'll give this a go! Thanks. Oh I forgot fencing a little.
I think some of your critics don't understand the core creativity inherent in Chinese Martial Arts , you take a form and you create your own techniques from your souls own interpretation and inspiration derived from practicing the form .
Thanks Master Mace ! Your lessons are very instructives. I'm come from France and I practice the ninjutsu. My weapon of predilection is the wooden sword. Of course, for my learning, I would like learn to control some weapon ( Bo, saï, nunchaku...)
Many ridiculous moves in this one, but 3:30 really takes the cake when "yang" works his staff the long way round instead of just smacking "yin" in the face. How considerate.
Well depending on how strong the wood is the sword may be able to cut the staff but if you had a metal or something staff it wouldn't make a difference but the only difference would be if the sword was long ranges or short ranged
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Why do you feel the need to make misleading video titles such as this? This is NOT a real fight, you said so yourself, so why put that title? Are your goods not good enough to sell on their own merit, that you need to trick people for views and interest?
@@jaimeurban6 Forms are designed to practice combinations. A real fight is where you don't know what the other person is going to do and you strip down the movement to their most efficient.
"Real fight" aside...I knew better. lol. I've seen some of your other stuff and I know you're pretty good with that thing. My questions/criticisms are practical in nature. In the form, the two high, power strikes didn't appear to be targeted at anything other than each others staffs. So if one of the staffs failed to come up, the other would hit nothing but air. My other issue is towards the end when your staff was pinned. Why would the aggressor choose to release your staff and come all the way around to strike from the other direction when he could just simply come straight up into your face from that position?
This was super informative. I'm currently writing a book but I'm having difficulty writing fight scenes so I'm searching through various weapons and fighting techniques and it's nice to see someone demonstrate those techniques to give me a better understanding of how it's done. Thank you for posting this. It was a great watch.
I learnt some Bo techniques practising martial arts in University, and I must say it is awesome, and a very good fighting technique. It is also difficult too, oh and take care of your fingers xDD Suscribed ! :D
These are great. Your videos are quite timely for my current project-in-the-works... I know my icon there is me as a Klingon, but lately I've been looking into working a Darth Maul Cyborg (Star Wars: Clone Wars) cosplay, with digitigrade legs (look that all up, you'll see) and creating the Staffsaber (it's a bit different from SWep1). I've talked with a friend who wishes to do a different Sith (Darth Talon) and she and I will work out a show routine, using many of the techniques and maneuvers you've shown here. It will take a few months (both to finish the outfit and practice the routine) But I'll try to take video and post it on my channel, then link it to yours ('course with credit for the inspiration). Thank you for your hard work Keep up the good works, Sir.
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May I ask you under what master had you been training? Im a traditional chinese kempo along with other different stiles including mma and I had never seen this bo staff form what is it call? How can I visit you to check you around?
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Why call kata a "real fight" though? I like the video, but the titles are click-baity, when the content is as you say, very good. So why not drop the misleading titles and stick with the great content instead?
+Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace "Great" and "Fun" are objective, and many would disagree. "Traditional" in what sense? Sin Kwan Thé was a fraud, and you will not post your lineage, so what claim do you have there? "Keep Traditional Chinese Martial Arts alive" - They are alive, and you aren't helping by presenting it in a bad light. Nobody cares about your funding, stop trying to control and divert the conversation away from the problem that people actually have with you: That you are being deliberately misleading, and employing bad practice. Lastly, you seem to be unable to respond directly to any "haters" but have plenty of time to respond to the fans, even though the "haters" seem to be the most "Liked" comments, and therefore the first that you would logically see unless you actively avoid them. Fraud?
Really want to learn how to use the Bo staff properly. This is quite good instructions, sir! - Question is if these techniques works against someone else not using a Bo staff and simply goes all in just to beat the shit out of me, and I defend myself with - say - a walking cane.
I was going to keep these comments to myself, but since it looks like you might actually try this is a real-life situation, I'll answer you for your own safety's sake: It's pretty easy to tell how useful anything this guy teaches will be in a real fight. Watch the "strike" at 3:14 and again at 3:29. Ask yourself, what are they actually striking at? A real enemy doesn't have to block that at all. He will ignore your wild swing at thin air and put you in hospital. That pointless strike is just the tip of the iceberg. Please never try this stuff in a real fight. It's just for show. If you want to use a cane for self-defense, practice some Japanese Kobujutsu, or HEMA's quarterstaff, not the American flashy stuff.
EmpiricalPragmatist Right, thanks a lot for that reply - I've kind of already "made" a make-shift bo staff, which I've put to some basic practice. But I reckon practicing "duel-fighting" like this is quite senseless, given you won't meet someone on the street that challenge you to a duel, instead of skipping the niceties and just going straight for the K.O. punch to the face. I'll make sure to look up these two things you suggested and look up other alternative 'fighting styles' that employ use of wooden weaponry - Aka in forms of a staff, cane, etc. More based on a scenario where I'm defending myself from a legit attacker, and not a duelist who've practiced the same art as I. Again, thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
***** It's a pleasure. Just thought now, that you might also want to explore "Bartitsu", as well - specifically designed for self-defence using canes, top hats, opera cloaks and other apparel of the 19th century gentleman, because a guy called Bartholomew brought Ju-Jitsu back to England from Japan and wanted to adapt it to their dress style and equipment. It even employs the hooked handle of a cane. Don't know where you would find a teacher, though...
EmpiricalPragmatist Now that sounds like something right down my alley, if I can find a way to learn it properly! I've taken a great liking to the 19th century dressing style, which is why I mentioned canes to begin with - Knowing how to defend oneself using these things would simply just be epic. Thanks for mentioning that martial art, too!
The point is a display of how you would do it. You could learn basic ways of fighting in this technique, which is better than average person, which is none.
I observed one thing. You grab the staff like Robin Hood after transitioning from the low block to the low attack, grab it in the proximal third, the same as you do for the high attack, to have more reach and avoiding getting hit on the fingers. I don't know if it is a uncorrected mistake that you do without realizing it. You do make the hands sliding for the attacks to the head.
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what kind of wu shu shit is this??? lol first and foremost the minute you two crossed staves the first time, me as the aggressor would have rolled my staff around yours and smacked you in the face....secondly, when your staff got snapped down to the ground, while your opponents leading leg was opened and exposed sweep your staff forward right into the shin. not to mention all that added movement and spins...waste of energy, be efficient be precise. ..strike hard, strike fast....sit there doing spins and twirls like a cheerleader and I'm going to wait for that gap an hit you....c'mon guys if you're gonna teach people, teach them right
+harly quin and you'll also note harly that is says in the title "real fight" now please explain why beginners would be even light sparring with staves? and also how any of the moves and positioning would benefit a person in an actual fight...in a movie perhaps, where everything is scripted and choreographed. ..but not a fight where your opponent seeks to win
that "wu shu" shit has been proven to work. not just because you cant grasp the concept of cumulative skill doesn't mean its bullshit. again, it is for beginners. your not supposed to do that exact thing in a fight your supposed to use the individual parts of it and sparing over time strengthens you in doing those manuvers. once again you clearly don't understand how technique works. do soccer players do ball tricks in the middle of a game? hell no. but learning them helps them to improve. let me know if u get what Im saying.
and the title was true both of them have mastered the bo staff so this is too masters essentialy showing beginers what it would look like all be it the jump was unnessecary.
+harly quin harly...i mastered the staff long ago, so i do understand the point you are trying to make...but do you understand mine? teaching weapons combat isn't about show, flash or style...it's about efficiency, economic movement, precision...and just a touch of brutal thinking. ...if facing an opponent armed also with a staff, where would you strike for first dear one??? if the answer isn't for the hands holding the staff then you aren't thinking it though the right way....my point is if you want to teach beginners how to fight, teach them right
Of all weapons. I love using a staff. The range, the defensive nature of it and when needed, could be turned into an offensive weapon. And when I played video games, i loved pairing with kicks due to the force and acrobatics that a staff could afford you. (Just add a retractable blade and I'm ready to be a vigilante saving the mean steets of Gotham.)
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And where is the "real" fight in this video ?
+Omarr Omar ??? it's just a form. not "real" very misleading title
+HappyPhilXD yep dissapointed
+HappyPhilXD Agree. Major mislead!
I feel lied to.
nah, no real fight here
only the one "real" for him
Definition of REAL: (of a substance or thing) not imitation or artificial; genuine.
This was a great video, but it was not real. It was choreography.
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That's because he doesn't do anything "real".
"REAL Viewers"
Wasn't real or good.
That fight as as real as wwe
Lmao
True
Its a drill for a reason
@Gopinath Harris ye and wwe isn’t either it’s fake
Its called practice, dont you know Miyagi Do?
That was some very pretty stick dancing.
You must have forgotten to upload the fighting part.
Furthest thing from a "real fight."
Mercury Black I have
Jason Todd325 I have
@Jason Todd325 no one would use a bow staff in a real fight
@@HeraldoftheMEME No u
@@dw8404 um... yeah "no one" would include myself so no I would not use one 🤨
I love this, this will definitely help me with my animation process for my character!
have you finished it? I'd like to see
@@crazyformyself9773 also curious
@@crazyformyself9773 internet proverb: an artist who feels the need to announce what they're doing, prolly didnt do it
We still waiting 💀
@@stormflavored8829 lmaoooo
Decent video, but don't call it "Real Fight". That is what is known as lying, and it brings martial arts into disrepute.
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If I ever get into a street fight I will make sure to let my opponent know what he is supposed to do before we fight.
I'm going to dislike, because you tricked me into watching this video. You said 'real fight', not training, not slow motion practice, not explanation, you said; REAL FIGHT.
***** To me the video was just some kind of dance choreography.
***** Agreed. Poor video title.
Wei Zhao I was tempted to dislike also, the title is poor form and the video is poor form.
***** Nonchalance supposedly. Unwitting charlatans disinterest me when they are so low scale, so many are far more harmful than this Jake fella. He knows exactly what he is doing with the video title however so my contempt is thorough and only tempts me to dislike.
Ni Clouds Complicated, but honest and true to oneself. +1
for people like me that's taken sword fighting classes and is wanting to use the techniques I've learned into stick fighting these videos are invaluable. unfortunately i cannot find classes for stick fighting here so im taking sword fighting.
Where do you learn sword fighting. And is it fencing or katana
at 2:32 the attacker can just go for the face or chin, why come all the way around the other side.
Mark Rcca I would actually like Jake Mace to answer this question, it's a bit rude to ignore such fundamental questions.
Lol I was thinkng the same
Cause it isn't a real fight
@@jackkennedy1931 why is it titled "BO STAFF - Real Fight" ;) At least I would expect it to be a demonstration of a realistic fight, not movements that look stylistically nice but would make no sense in a real-life scenario...
I was thinking exactly this. "Now that I can hit the person, I will stop, wind up, and try to hit them on the opposite side"
No one would smack staves in the middle in a real fight. The whole point of a fight is to attack your opponent and win the fight, swinging at some arbitrary point in space only to contact the enemy's bo is pointless. Every single time you guys do that, imagine if the other guy didn't have the bo to "block," what would happen? The swing would just fly over his head and miss him completely, because you weren't aiming at anything to begin with!
En Emerson like real kido. if you block, you lost. so the goal is to strike before you are struck with technique.
Im pretty sure this is just a beginners technique , like really beginner but either way i see your point
Look into what is called "binden" in historical European martial arts. It involves striking a blow to claim the center space between the fighters. If your opponent does not contest this by a similar strike, you can then effortlessly flow into a thrust and finish him. I believe that is what we see vestiges of in this video. Unfortunately, it is obscured by the rest of the performance being so appallingly poor.
Check out the youtube channel "Dimicator" for more on this.
trust me, thats not how to train for a real fight... or at least a very imcomplete training
Someone doesn't understand the point of technique
Jake, you are in good shape and obviously a gifted athlete, but your martial arts is lacking basic fundamental principles. You add movement where there does not need to be any, you look down all the time, you have an anterior pelvic tilt , your arms are always at an obtuse angle rather than a 90 right angle, you make all these sound effects like SKT and have developed bad habits from him, DS and SHS. You need to remove their bad habits from your practice and study from someone that knows what they are doing. Many people have attempted to reach out to you , I do not understand why you can not be humble and learn from them. Many people that do not know will say how great you are and that is fine, but you are misinforming them. Sincerely.
Mark Wright Yeah it isn't very good
Dude you actually take this guy seriously ? You know hes nothing but a charlatan right ? Hes not gonna take your personal critique to improve something that really isn't their, a applicable martial art. Plus hes too busy making off of his dvd's and 1mil subs...dont even waste your breathe
I don't even need to see a video of Mark Wright fighting to know he would destroy this guy, he's 100% right
jonnygrease501: No one, is going to take your comment seriously until you fix that grammar, “dude”.
Can you be my sensei
u know at that last part the aggressor got so many openings like u can expect a mid air blow to the head is very lethal idk
Not only is this not a real fight, but it includes a lot of whimsical non-utilitarian movements not seen in actual combat. My disappointment mounts.
Jake your instruction is nicely demonstrated, educational, entertaining and comes from a good place. Thank you! Keep on keepin' on.
by what definition is this a "Real fight"?
LOL! I feel you.
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this video had me really interested in learning Chinese martial arts .. especially with the staff.
thank u by the way for this awesome video
No disrespect intended, but how's this a real fight?
It's a real training fight....?
Or tournament....
Boiling Point It's neither.
Boiling Point It's choreography. I'd say this goes down as more of a performance than anything else, like two actors practicing a scene from a b-rated movie.
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+Timothy O'Brien You wanting to see a real bo staff fight is pretty sick.
Not only is it choreographed AKA not real, but it is really shitty choreography. Anyone could hit the other person at anytime if they tried. Like the moment where he pushes the staff to the ground. Just run it along the other persons staff and it's an easy hit.
+JohnJohn Agreed I saw plenty of opportunities for a strike.
Sure. But when exactly would you actually have a "real" bo staff fight in real life. 99.999% of martial arts is basically dance classes for men. Practical self-defense skills are basically a) don't get into violent confrontations, b) situational awareness, and c) sprinting. For the handful of people in professions that require real physical confrontation skills, a gun beats all other methods, and for less lethal methods, a taser or some pepper spray beats all martial arts methods. If you are a bouncer or a cop, it could be useful to know a couple jiu jitsu moves, but for the ordinary person, it's really about avoiding violence. Everything involving a staff is just for fun.
Krav Maga is one of the only practical martial arts for sure
+Duff McDuffee have you ever been to a martial art class? muay thai? bjj? i know taekwondo at this point has become more of a sport than a martial art, but still no one in their right mind would call it a "dance."
+Duff McDuffee Your argument about the practicality of these techniques is completely wrong. Anytime an individual gets into a fight, he has the opportunity to use these techniques. Martial arts are not about choreography and dancing. What you are criticizing is only in the movies. A real martial artist will almost always have an advantage over an unskilled fighter.
I'm working on a fight scene with a bo staff in the novel I'm writing and this is so helpful thank you so much!!!
How goes your book though
Watched the whole thing at x2 speed. Highly recommend😀
So, Jake, how many times you get hit in the face practicing that?
LOL!
Haha! Mark, A LOT!!!
Ah yes, never aiming for the face at all equates to "a lot"
thank you so much , sir
YES! Another Bo Staff video! I'm a beginner at this weapon so this is very helpful! thank you!
Awesome!
ItsJennifer It won't be much help seeing as this guy is peddling snake oil, but at least you're having fun I guess...
There are actual trained professionals that would say all this is bullshit and train you how to defend yourself the proper way with a bo staff and what they are doing is good for sparring and that's about it and all sparring really is is just a warm up to use said weapon or to practice a certain technique
ItsJennifer This is not real. Any trained professional could tell you this is choreographed and train you in a real fight. This is a pathetic display with shit tons of wasted movements and so much exposure for the opponent, that cannot easily be covered due to the positioning they are using. I’ve never trained in any sort of martial art, and if this man was using the technique he was in this video, I guarantee I could beat his ass within a matter of seconds because this is clearly fake.
this was beautiiful
lol, real fight?
Start with a bizarre way of holding sticks.
Then tapping sticks together without any danger of actually getting hit.
Then the attacker pushes actually knocks the stick to the ground and is about to "take his head off" (fight over), but instead of swinging the stick to the open face, he swings past it to let the guard come back up and hit.
hrm.
Thank you. Didn't have to write it myself.
Ecenomy of motion. The idea of fighting is not to give your opponent time to guard. Quite the contrary. It's sad that the origin of kung fu is so forgotten.
igor caique You learn what you train. If you teach yourself improper technique, you will have improper technique. If it is a demonstration of how you fight with a staff, it should show that. Not how you twirl a staff around pretending to fight. Then that is showmanship, and not fighting. This is showmanship. Certainly not real fighting. In any way, shape or form.
For comparison, if I as a member of the SCA would have a demonstration, I would aim to hit my opponent. If he doesn't guard, he'll get hit. That demonstrates that the technique works. If he guards, it shows that the guard works. Risk of injury is simply solved by putting on a damned helmet.
RaineAlgessar Absolutely.
+igor caique Training is *training*. It's practicing the movement set. No sense in practicing something that leaves you *VERY* vulnerable and calling it a martial arts routine.
It's maybe suitable for really, really bad TV shows, but I'm no expert, and even I can see it's truly horrible form.
The problem is usually that a real fight is too fast to be exciting for most people, since they can't follow what is happening. Show-fighting in movies and such exaggerates movement to make it clear what is happening.
Issues with this video is that they are not training to actually hit their opponent, and are doing waaay too wide movements. Just like in kung fu movies. They are exposed in a trillion ways and the moves are easily countered by someone who actually knows how to fight with a weapon. It's rubbish, and a scam since they are selling DVDs claiming it to be efficient martial arts.
RaineAlgessar proper... improper.. It doesn't matter.. If it works, it works.. And dude, i am sure this guy is fast... But my money would not be on him on a real bo staff fight.. I learned the basics from him...but fighting.. No.. I did not learn fighting from him.. Fighting you learn by just practicing alone.. By yourself.. Becoming one with the staff.. When you fight, movements come naturally. Not methodically.
Me and my brother planning our lightsaber fight
Your strikes should be aimed at your opponent and not at his bo staff. Same goes for sword training. Otherwise, there's nothing "real" about this. Try it. You'll see how effective your defense is when you're actually trying to hit each other (not with full power or speed, at first, but with real intent. Be safe :)
ditto
Yes
However if you are not focusing on the weapon (which holds a threat) you are vulnerable to an potentially lethal injury due to them contering because you are less focused on the weapon
By no means am I defending this fake 'fight' but I'm just clarifying that you should focus on both
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My friends and I in middle school would all go gather up and stick fight after school. This is about on that level
2:27 what if he pulled the staff to the left taking advantage of the movement to hit the head?
Exactly, That passed up a really obvious version of taking his head off for one that was ineffective.
Nobody:
Martial arts teacher: slaps part of his body while explaining something
I like these videos and i like that there's only happy and joy rather than anything negative, other than the comments of course. Keep up the good work
If you train for fighting by choreographing a fight, it seems to me that in a real fight, your opponent will DIE OF BOREDOM while you teach him how to attack you.
+Johan Slammeat This just for practicing attacking and defensive skills
erin mai Attacking and defending? You mean attacking thin air like they did here?
I've done klingon Batleth, single handed spear double handed spear and karate. Most of the moves in this seem to be something I've done before so I think I'll give this a go! Thanks. Oh I forgot fencing a little.
real fight...neither of these two has ever seen a real fight.
I think some of your critics don't understand the core creativity inherent in Chinese Martial Arts , you take a form and you create your own techniques from your souls own interpretation and inspiration derived from practicing the form .
love ur bo staff videos :)
Thanks Jemand!!! :)
You know if always been a fan and a bow staff enthusiast but i never new how to defend myself with this until now thanks
Thank you so much Jake Mace, I really enjoy watching your videos, your one of my favorite teachers. Keep healthy and keep teaching kung fu!
Enjoyed this one too, Jake.
Thanks Master Mace ! Your lessons are very instructives. I'm come from France and I practice the ninjutsu. My weapon of predilection is the wooden sword. Of course, for my learning, I would like learn to control some weapon ( Bo, saï, nunchaku...)
ahh yes what every good fighting technique needs, crossing your legs
Many ridiculous moves in this one, but 3:30 really takes the cake when "yang" works his staff the long way round instead of just smacking "yin" in the face. How considerate.
I am well rehearsed in other martial arts but its good to see someone genuinely in synergistic harmony with their style. thumbs up.
Lol the part where u r in a bad position, can he just smack u by shifting the staff?
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Which is stronger: Bo Staff or Sword? Tell me! :)
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Isn't that depends on the user of the selected weapon?
Well depending on how strong the wood is the sword may be able to cut the staff but if you had a metal or something staff it wouldn't make a difference but the only difference would be if the sword was long ranges or short ranged
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace or just do like Harrison Ford and shot the guy ;D
Bo staff is good for multiple enemy's sword is good for taking em down one bye one
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Why do you feel the need to make misleading video titles such as this?
This is NOT a real fight, you said so yourself, so why put that title? Are your goods not good enough to sell on their own merit, that you need to trick people for views and interest?
Why are you doing the spinning? Thanks.
this title makes you look like a lier man. call it getting ready for a real bo staff fight.
+lovefunbeer All Jake the Fake's vids are lies. Go to Amazon and post a review on the bullshit he's peddling there as Tai Chi.
Thank you for the good videos
lovely dance. so many wasted movements and zero intent.
true
Thank you for uploading video!
Cool Master~
Yep this is a real fight.
Just like the tomatoes in my fridge are actually ogres.
bro this is good.. i hope more video of yours.. good skill i can use it.. thanks for this. this is really usefull for me.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Kata is not a real fight.
@@jaimeurban6 No it's not.
Pretty sure this isn't even a kata...
@@jaimeurban6 Forms are designed to practice combinations. A real fight is where you don't know what the other person is going to do and you strip down the movement to their most efficient.
it's an insult to kata if you call that thing kata
Sir you are an excellent guru I want to learn from you!
"Real fight" aside...I knew better. lol. I've seen some of your other stuff and I know you're pretty good with that thing. My questions/criticisms are practical in nature. In the form, the two high, power strikes didn't appear to be targeted at anything other than each others staffs. So if one of the staffs failed to come up, the other would hit nothing but air. My other issue is towards the end when your staff was pinned. Why would the aggressor choose to release your staff and come all the way around to strike from the other direction when he could just simply come straight up into your face from that position?
This was super informative. I'm currently writing a book but I'm having difficulty writing fight scenes so I'm searching through various weapons and fighting techniques and it's nice to see someone demonstrate those techniques to give me a better understanding of how it's done. Thank you for posting this. It was a great watch.
And how goes your book?
Should be done by the end of 2024. Halfway through Book 2.@@linafrank2030
Where is real fight?
How can you call a choreographed fight real? Do you think fight scenes in movies are real?
I learnt some Bo techniques practising martial arts in University, and I must say it is awesome, and a very good fighting technique. It is also difficult too, oh and take care of your fingers xDD
Suscribed ! :D
That's called Choreography lol
These are great. Your videos are quite timely for my current project-in-the-works...
I know my icon there is me as a Klingon, but lately I've been looking into working a Darth Maul Cyborg (Star Wars: Clone Wars) cosplay, with digitigrade legs (look that all up, you'll see) and creating the Staffsaber (it's a bit different from SWep1). I've talked with a friend who wishes to do a different Sith (Darth Talon) and she and I will work out a show routine, using many of the techniques and maneuvers you've shown here. It will take a few months (both to finish the outfit and practice the routine) But I'll try to take video and post it on my channel, then link it to yours ('course with credit for the inspiration).
Thank you for your hard work
Keep up the good works, Sir.
Kick ass ! , really cool keep up the good work .
Oh my god, everyone here is so mean.
so..awesome I want a bo staff.. good thing there is a link to order it: D
who else is here because of the new episode of the walking dead?
Lol XD I'm here because of Morgan getting his ass kicked by Eastman.
+[Plataman] haha yes me :D I dont know why but i want to learn this
me lol
Alpha1BDaReaLiSeD you're welcome lmao
Saaame, I actually wanna learn it now too. That episode was really good :)))
Ordered, ...can’t wait
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May I ask you under what master had you been training? Im a traditional chinese kempo along with other different stiles including mma and I had never seen this bo staff form what is it call? How can I visit you to check you around?
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Why call kata a "real fight" though? I like the video, but the titles are click-baity, when the content is as you say, very good. So why not drop the misleading titles and stick with the great content instead?
Ther will be haters 4everything
+Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace
"Great" and "Fun" are objective, and many would disagree.
"Traditional" in what sense? Sin Kwan Thé was a fraud, and you will not post your lineage, so what claim do you have there?
"Keep Traditional Chinese Martial Arts alive" - They are alive, and you aren't helping by presenting it in a bad light.
Nobody cares about your funding, stop trying to control and divert the conversation away from the problem that people actually have with you: That you are being deliberately misleading, and employing bad practice.
Lastly, you seem to be unable to respond directly to any "haters" but have plenty of time to respond to the fans, even though the "haters" seem to be the most "Liked" comments, and therefore the first that you would logically see unless you actively avoid them.
Fraud?
One problem with that Jake, THIS SHIT IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
I like how people daring, sitting on the couch, "tHis iS nOt a ReAL fiGHt", but i wonder who will dare to fight for real with this guy.
I would pay to see a real martial artist kick his butt.
"real fight" choreographed and at like 1/2 speed. wow..........................
so badass. cool fighting style.
Really want to learn how to use the Bo staff properly. This is quite good instructions, sir! - Question is if these techniques works against someone else not using a Bo staff and simply goes all in just to beat the shit out of me, and I defend myself with - say - a walking cane.
I was going to keep these comments to myself, but since it looks like you might actually try this is a real-life situation, I'll answer you for your own safety's sake:
It's pretty easy to tell how useful anything this guy teaches will be in a real fight. Watch the "strike" at 3:14 and again at 3:29. Ask yourself, what are they actually striking at? A real enemy doesn't have to block that at all. He will ignore your wild swing at thin air and put you in hospital. That pointless strike is just the tip of the iceberg. Please never try this stuff in a real fight. It's just for show.
If you want to use a cane for self-defense, practice some Japanese Kobujutsu, or HEMA's quarterstaff, not the American flashy stuff.
EmpiricalPragmatist Right, thanks a lot for that reply - I've kind of already "made" a make-shift bo staff, which I've put to some basic practice. But I reckon practicing "duel-fighting" like this is quite senseless, given you won't meet someone on the street that challenge you to a duel, instead of skipping the niceties and just going straight for the K.O. punch to the face.
I'll make sure to look up these two things you suggested and look up other alternative 'fighting styles' that employ use of wooden weaponry - Aka in forms of a staff, cane, etc. More based on a scenario where I'm defending myself from a legit attacker, and not a duelist who've practiced the same art as I.
Again, thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
***** It's a pleasure. Just thought now, that you might also want to explore "Bartitsu", as well - specifically designed for self-defence using canes, top hats, opera cloaks and other apparel of the 19th century gentleman, because a guy called Bartholomew brought Ju-Jitsu back to England from Japan and wanted to adapt it to their dress style and equipment. It even employs the hooked handle of a cane. Don't know where you would find a teacher, though...
EmpiricalPragmatist Now that sounds like something right down my alley, if I can find a way to learn it properly! I've taken a great liking to the 19th century dressing style, which is why I mentioned canes to begin with - Knowing how to defend oneself using these things would simply just be epic.
Thanks for mentioning that martial art, too!
this is how kong fu hustle was made
3:31 he could just have taken the staff to the right of his head!
how long the bo staff ??
"full speed"
"real fight"
This is pretty bloody cool aye 🤩
I expected that to be more epic...seemed slow at the end
The point is a display of how you would do it. You could learn basic ways of fighting in this technique, which is better than average person, which is none.
It's training, it's supposed to be slow
Im doing this all day at school but for real i do BUT THEN FASTER AND HARDER LIKE REAL FAST AND I KEEP WINING LOLL
Good beginner bo staff.
Great stuff. Keep up the good workouts.
nice clickbait
That was great. Very informative
What a scam, lol
dude this is awesome !
"Real fight"
I observed one thing. You grab the staff like Robin Hood after transitioning from the low block to the low attack, grab it in the proximal third, the same as you do for the high attack, to have more reach and avoiding getting hit on the fingers. I don't know if it is a uncorrected mistake that you do without realizing it. You do make the hands sliding for the attacks to the head.
lol.don't get me wrong,i love your vids, but bo staff is my main mastery and your style could use a bit of work
no doubt,it was meant to be funny not mean,and a kids show? I don't watch tv,although my brother does
chopstick thrower
Sir
What type of 武道 or Martial Arts do you train in? And is お箸(おはし) or Ohashi chopstickes a part of the training? Osu
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chopstick thrower Wow... ffs dude. Jeet Kun Do, Tae Kwon Do, Jiu Jitsu...
Chasz Hodgson lol ^^
What martial art employs this fighting style? I think it's really cool and want to give it a go.
+Chris Everett It is the art of pinada but this is the beginner section. The advanced steps involve a blind fold and candy.
It's called Hollywood.
i think bo staff is better than sword
Subhrarani Baral The reach factor is helpful
are dual blade sword, like Darth Mail's Dual Lightsaber, PVP viable?
what kind of wu shu shit is this??? lol first and foremost the minute you two crossed staves the first time, me as the aggressor would have rolled my staff around yours and smacked you in the face....secondly, when your staff got snapped down to the ground, while your opponents leading leg was opened and exposed sweep your staff forward right into the shin. not to mention all that added movement and spins...waste of energy, be efficient be precise. ..strike hard, strike fast....sit there doing spins and twirls like a cheerleader and I'm going to wait for that gap an hit you....c'mon guys if you're gonna teach people, teach them right
the video made it clear that this is for beginners bud
+harly quin and you'll also note harly that is says in the title "real fight" now please explain why beginners would be even light sparring with staves? and also how any of the moves and positioning would benefit a person in an actual fight...in a movie perhaps, where everything is scripted and choreographed. ..but not a fight where your opponent seeks to win
that "wu shu" shit has been proven to work. not just because you cant grasp the concept of cumulative skill doesn't mean its bullshit. again, it is for beginners. your not supposed to do that exact thing in a fight your supposed to use the individual parts of it and sparing over time strengthens you in doing those manuvers. once again you clearly don't understand how technique works. do soccer players do ball tricks in the middle of a game? hell no. but learning them helps them to improve. let me know if u get what Im saying.
and the title was true both of them have mastered the bo staff so this is too masters essentialy showing beginers what it would look like all be it the jump was unnessecary.
+harly quin harly...i mastered the staff long ago, so i do understand the point you are trying to make...but do you understand mine? teaching weapons combat isn't about show, flash or style...it's about efficiency, economic movement, precision...and just a touch of brutal thinking. ...if facing an opponent armed also with a staff, where would you strike for first dear one??? if the answer isn't for the hands holding the staff then you aren't thinking it though the right way....my point is if you want to teach beginners how to fight, teach them right
Of all weapons. I love using a staff.
The range, the defensive nature of it and when needed, could be turned into an offensive weapon.
And when I played video games, i loved pairing with kicks due to the force and acrobatics that a staff could afford you.
(Just add a retractable blade and I'm ready to be a vigilante saving the mean steets of Gotham.)
WTF I CAME HERE FROM SKYRIM.
+Alex Shi Then you need to take a Bo Staff to the knee. Ending your adventures. :)
This was a great video
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Bro this is pretty good
Really cool video