New 2024 Sherco two stroke and four stroke models preview ︱Cross Training Enduro

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  • Опубліковано 7 сер 2023
  • www.crosstrainingenduro.com The Sherco line-up for 2024 has been announced. In a nutshell? Engine changes for some of the four stroke range. And minor tweaks with the two stroke models. Lets start with the smokers. We still have the Sherco 125, 250 and 300 motorbikes. As mentioned it's all small changes. The LED headlight should be a big improvement over the weak globe. Stronger lighter wheels will be a plus, although I never heard of issues with the existing wheels. Need hard enduro training? Work through our video lists. Everyone I know sees the lack of major change as a good thing overall for 2024 Sherco models. Carburetor and pre-mix. Woohoo. I'm sure emission laws will change this soon. But lots of us don't want the new technologies. Hard enduro techniques are covered in our training vids. Beta has fixed their main bearing issues, but many still don't like the oil injection system. It's generally quite reliable but it gets expensive when it does fail... great the 2024 Sherco line up doesn't include this yet. The majority of TPI owners have trouble-free riding, but the list of TPI issues is a long one, with a small but significant number of engine seizures. And every TPI motorbike we've ridden has poor power at low revs. We know quite a few riders who have spent up toward a thousand dollars for remapped CDIs and aftermarket cylinder heads to get closer to the power of carb models. So anyone who was hoping for major changes will be disappointed. But most of us who own Sherco two-strokes think 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'. I'm not sure about other countries, but the Sherco two strokes have become incredibly popular in Australia in our local area and in the hard enduro scene. Ridiculous amounts of grunt. KYB suspension. What's not to like? I was really hoping Sherco would fix the awkwardly placed fuel tap. But it seems every manufacturer likes to keep one ridiculous feature for years and years. Maybe it's a kind of elaborate April Fools Day thing? The four strokes. These get most of the small changes as the two-strokes. But there are bigger changes for the 250 and 300 four-strokes. A new engine design claims better engine cooling, less weight, quieter, less vibration, repositioned oil sight glass and oil filler cap. The 300 model also has new intake and exhaust ports, a bigger throttle body diameter, and titanium intake valves and springs. Sherco says it produces more power and now can rev to 13700RPM. I got to ride one of these in the outback and it already seemed to have plenty of power and a free-spinning top end then. If I understand Sherco's information correctly, the 450 and 500 models are still essentially unchanged when it comes to the engines. Into enduro and dirt bikes? Check out our dirt bike videos. Extreme enduro training vids are our focus. The mechanic for this tour company said the big Shercos have been very reliable. Compared to some big bore enduro four strokes it definitely leans more toward dirt performance with a fairly close ratio gearbox, KYB suspension that works better as you ride harder. But it would be interesting to see an adventure conversion with the Sherco 500SEF. A big fuel tank. Comfy seat. Cush drive hub. Extra oil capacity. A windscreen. It might be an interesting project for the future. If you are enduro riding get into our enduro training vids. Our dirt riding tips are great for developing your hard enduro skills. I spent a whole week on the big bore Sherco and found it a delight to ride in every respect. See our review for more information. It will be interesting to see what changes are forced by emission laws in the future. But overall I'd say many of us are happy to see it's 'business as usual' for most of the 2024 models. What do you think? Has anyone ridden the 2024 models yet? Keen to hear your thoughts. If you want extreme enduro training see our playlists of enduro skills to learn. Try our training vids for working on your extreme enduro techniques.
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  • @crosstrainingenduro
    @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +6

    FURTHER NOTES I mentioned the oil injection on the Beta RR300, I'm referring to the base model. The more expensive Race edition uses pre-mix.

  • @toddpillow3074
    @toddpillow3074 Місяць тому +1

    As a long time KTM rider in Oregon, I’m disturbed by all the technology being put on their 2 strokes. My newest bike is a 2019 Husky TE150 which I rushed to buy as it was the last carb model available. With JD carb jetting, Pro Circuit spark arrestor and an RK Tech head insert (compression set for 1500 meters) the bike is fantastic. Good on Sherco for sticking with simper tech that works.

  • @ARDrummer
    @ARDrummer 11 місяців тому +2

    Great upload...and cool drone footage!

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, I was really impressed with David's cable cam too which worked well in between the trees.

    • @ARDrummer
      @ARDrummer 11 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro Yes...great footage!

  • @kelvynbettridge
    @kelvynbettridge 11 місяців тому +6

    My 2023 300SEF is an absolute delight to ride. In a way it makes some sense that that is where this years development money went. No one should be disappointed by the 300SEF

    • @fynn8252
      @fynn8252 11 місяців тому +2

      I’ve looked at that model. On paper, it seems like a perfect fit for me. The only minor issue is my online store (Rocky Mountain Atv) doesn’t carry many Sherco parts. Maybe I need to branch out and do more research.
      Does it resist stalling well?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      I got to ride a 2020 model in the outback. Cracker of an engine back then. If I stopped doing our hard enduro tracks and reverted to more normal riding this would be a definite contender for me.

    • @rafy600
      @rafy600 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@fynn8252 no stalling on the 2023 300 SEF that I own. RM has parts available but always call your dealer they can get anything. Also motocenter sherco power sport, Bonecutter and few other places in US have parts available. I currently own 3 Shercos I fine everything I need really quick

    • @fynn8252
      @fynn8252 11 місяців тому +1

      @@rafy600 Nice! Great to hear.

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 11 місяців тому +2

      @@fynn8252. My friend has a 2017 I believe it is. It’s all he rides and we do a lot of rocky single track. He rarely stalls and never overheats. I’d say for anything short of trials like hard enduro, it’s a winner.

  • @Danger_mouse
    @Danger_mouse 11 місяців тому +1

    A great wrap up mate 👌

  • @haydenp9254
    @haydenp9254 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video on the new bikes. Love my sherco 300se. I hope they start to catch on in Canada more as they really are a good bike.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      We see them all the time in our area, I think the Aussie guys have done a lot of promotion and low pricing in the past few years.

  • @jamesking4225
    @jamesking4225 7 місяців тому +2

    Everyone here in georgia ,and alabama are getting rid of their shercos . Most everyone is going to betas ,yamahas,and reiju . Most of it due to parts availability ,and getting warranty issues fixed with Sherco . I know one thing ,around here the Sherco used market is great you can pick them up cheaper than any other used bike. I’ve been eyeballing Sherco for a while I’m just on the fence about leaving beta I’ve had 5 of them with no issues.200 race,200 standard,250 standard,300 standard,,and an xtrainer which I hated it was like riding a wet noodle. You always have Some good info in your videos,this is my favorite channel .

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  7 місяців тому

      I'd be really keen to know what the warranty issues are, James. Whenever I come across common problems I put in the pinned first comment. Very interesting what is happening there, it's the opposite here in Australia. Beta gained massive traction here with a very supportive distributor who priced them well. A new guy took over and it's been a long downhill slide with various Beta dealers giving up. Whereas Sherco got a new distributor a few years back and we now see Shercos everywhere. I suspect a good distributor not driven totally by money, and who supports his dealers well, makes a huge difference.

    • @jamesking4225
      @jamesking4225 7 місяців тому +1

      That’s kinda what’s happening here

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  7 місяців тому +1

      So there's been a change of national distributor for Sherco in the USA and prices are going up but dealer and warranty support is going down?

    • @jamesking4225
      @jamesking4225 7 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro yep

    • @madMX96
      @madMX96 7 місяців тому

      shame that. We are getting direct Sherco importer now in UK, lets see what it brings.

  • @UTPP
    @UTPP 11 місяців тому +2

    I've been waiting for this review. It's bitter sweet, I'm happy there's no changes but if there were, I'd be getting a new bike! 😅

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +2

      Rumour has it there'll be big changes in 2025, at least for the two strokes. Hopefully it won't include fuel injection! If they drop a few kg I'd consider an upgrade. In my 60s I'm really starting to notice weight quite a bit lol.

  • @jp094283
    @jp094283 11 місяців тому +4

    Camera work was quite amazing I must say 👍🏼

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, I was using the Skydio drone and David brought along his cable cam as well.

  • @jamesbaber3775
    @jamesbaber3775 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m very happy with my 23 300sef. I would love to ride the new model to compare the changes.
    Changing the oil sight glass is a winner for me. The old models have it behind the rear brake lever and it makes it very hard to see.
    I don’t ride hard enduro but mainly ride single trail. The 300sef is a very capable and fun bike to ride. Go Sherco!

  • @user-ww2it5eo2u
    @user-ww2it5eo2u 11 місяців тому +1

    Pretty neat bikes!

  • @dirklawyer9939
    @dirklawyer9939 9 місяців тому +1

    I am to this day still enamored with my 2022 300 SE Factory I have no eyes for another French chick at this time even if she is younger, I have been able to go back and forth on soft and hard enduro trails with my old 2019 KTM 300 xcw and even with the GET TPI injector locator the low end torque on the 300 SE is just a beast and so pleasant to just lug around with it's 67 yr old rider with a big smile on his face.

  • @nicktookthebean9489
    @nicktookthebean9489 11 місяців тому +1

    they sure look good

  • @davehowe_just_an_old_dirtbiker
    @davehowe_just_an_old_dirtbiker 11 місяців тому +1

    You always do some nice reviews...well thought out. I was looking for a new bike in 2024 and was going to get the Sherco but I just really like the Beta so I've got a 2024 300RR coming in next month!

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      That's great Dave! Since getting the main bearing issue sorted I think they are a great option. There's still the occasional failure in 2023 models but it's very rare now. Almost as much grunt as the Sherco. The suspension is a bit softer which I think suits everyday riding better for most.

  • @gasnxt6805
    @gasnxt6805 11 місяців тому +1

    I love my 300rr but the sherco looks so good. If my beta ever dies i will change over.

  • @ZACZPA
    @ZACZPA Місяць тому +1

    The ridiculous feature they decided to keep was the air filter location/design.

  • @postmortemspasm
    @postmortemspasm 11 місяців тому +2

    Regarding the fuel tap. No one seem to be able to see the forest from the trees. Its like that so 1. the tank is a large as possible, at 11L its by far the biggest in its class and 2. the fuel tap is positioned right at the bottom there so its able to get every last drop of fuel, which is not the case with most bikes. 3. the tap will never get damaged being tucked away in there
    If they change the fuel tap location one or all of these things will be compromised, UNLESS they do what the 05-09 CRF450X's did and have 2 lines going from the tank to a remote fuel tap.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      I agree it's well protected and I know a few riders don't mind it as is.... it would probably be the only surviving part if you rode over a cliff. 😗 But like many owners who hate it, we've just put lawnmover fuel taps in the fuel line as well which are much easier to reach, still tucked away well, and don't change the angle of the fuel line at all. In some cases the fuel taps are very stiff right from the factory too, even with lubrication. My fellow rider in the vid has actually made a tool so he can reach in and turn the tap. Mine is very hard to turn too. My brother's 250SE. Not too bad at all.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Good point about the fuel capacity too, I didn't realise Beta and KTM only run 9L fuel tanks. I've never really noticed as usually we only get through half a tank on a slow technical rides.

  • @enduromill1815
    @enduromill1815 5 місяців тому +1

    The only thing I don’t like on my 2023 se 300 is the clutch seems to overheat quickly. But apart from that such a great package 👌🏻

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  5 місяців тому

      See our video 'clutch mods for more lube'. Quite a few Sherco owners are doing this as the existing clutch basket doesn't allow much oil flow.

    • @enduromill1815
      @enduromill1815 5 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro yeah Baz I seen that. I’m thinking I might bite the bullet and go the diaphragm clutch 🤔

  • @terryberner
    @terryberner 11 місяців тому +1

    Still riding riding my 17 250 sx with your mod recommendations everyone loves it and the tpi head makes it run so clean. Thanks
    My question is I’m after a 4t beta or Sherco
    I’m very tall 6-7 like your self I know the beta is smaller and ground clearance is lower so probably feel the same maybe
    Thanks for spending time doing videos and saving us lots of money
    Thanks again

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      The Beta sits a bit lower but I don't think it's a smaller bike.Unless you mean the Xtrainer.

    • @terryberner
      @terryberner 11 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro 👍

  • @TheMrRyanV
    @TheMrRyanV 11 місяців тому +2

    Hoping to hear an update on your current 300 SEF 2 stroke - I’m considering one instead of a pumpkin bike - will be replacing an XR400R for my main bike. Thanks!!

    • @carlatamanczyk3891
      @carlatamanczyk3891 11 місяців тому +3

      I have owned many pumpkin bikes. Now have a Sherco 250 2t. Excellent machine.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +3

      I think the changes are so minor that it will be just like our 2022 models to ride. Arguably the best engine in its class, the Beta would be a close second in our opinion. Are you keeping the XR? Classic bikes, loved mine 20 years ago!

    • @TheMrRyanV
      @TheMrRyanV 11 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro Hi ! Yes I am keeping the XR- I plan on restoring it to factory condition. I have debated for months in my own mind which Euro bike I am going to buy- the Sherco is looking better all the time!! Greetings from Detroit, Michigan 🤘🏻

    • @TheJshiner123
      @TheJshiner123 9 місяців тому

      ​@@TheMrRyanVyou won't regret buying a sherco, I bought an se 300 factory at the start of this year and it's been a blast, absolutely amazing machine.
      I had the suspension sprung for my weight and dropped the oil level in the forks as they were too stiff for me, re jetted and it's been great!

  • @Mach5Johnny
    @Mach5Johnny 2 місяці тому

    Shercos are basically the closest we’ll ever get to a modern day Bultaco!

  • @TheOnlyFunkyZebra
    @TheOnlyFunkyZebra 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice

  • @olliechristopher467
    @olliechristopher467 6 місяців тому

    I really like the fuel petcock location on the Sherco 300!! Ive broken off more petcocks in the rocks than I can count over the years. One of them ruined the fuel tank.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  6 місяців тому +1

      Bummer. It's certainly protected. But it could still be very safe but easier to access. We have put $7 lawnmower petcocks in the existing fuel line which are really easy to use.

  • @dougiep8464
    @dougiep8464 11 місяців тому +2

    Bold new graphics

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +3

      😂 It would be great to see a manufacturer say 'Understated new graphics' for once.

  • @MichaelTucker
    @MichaelTucker 11 місяців тому +1

    Barry, all the reports about the new 300SEF motor suggest that it's a ripper!
    I setup my SEF300F with a larger tank/cush-drive hub and lots of bling that I had on my previous SE250 Factory.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Cool! A cush drive hub... are you doing a fair bit of road riding?

    • @timothydrake1030
      @timothydrake1030 10 місяців тому

      Where do you get a Cush Drive Hub for Sherco? Thanks

  • @tonyt73oz
    @tonyt73oz 11 місяців тому +2

    Tossing up between a '23 with the free accessories pack or wait for a '24 and then have to buy the accessories separately myself. I'll be getting the 500 SEF factory and doing the dual sport/ lite adv conversion.

    • @frankthetank2824
      @frankthetank2824 11 місяців тому +1

      I just bought a 23 250 se . My dealer said they no longer have the accessories. Do you know if sherco is still offering them ?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +2

      Not sure what you mean exactly by 'accessories' or which country you are in.

    • @frankthetank2824
      @frankthetank2824 11 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro
      I’m in the us , sherco had a $2000 dollar rebate plus a bunch of free accessories on the 23 models . I got the rebate , but no accessories . The above poster mentioned accessories as part of the deal. Either way I’m really impressed with my sherco , i previously had a 21 beta 200 rr, which was a great bike, but I’m really liking the sherco.

    • @tonyt73oz
      @tonyt73oz 11 місяців тому +1

      @@frankthetank2824What bike did you get?

    • @frankthetank2824
      @frankthetank2824 11 місяців тому +1

      @@tonyt73oz
      The 250 se

  • @imurofaca6430
    @imurofaca6430 15 днів тому +1

    Hi I've seen your videos about the jetting issues the sherco has and you recommended using the 2017 manual for the jetting settings, my question is, in the 2017 the recommended needle is a N8RW and in the 2021 is the N1EG, do I have to change the needle too or just change the needle position, TY

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  14 днів тому +1

      I was relying on a pile of info from the Australian Sherco riders Facebook page, maybe ask the question there?

  • @postmortemspasm
    @postmortemspasm 11 місяців тому +1

    The beta 2 strokes have a throttle position sensor on the carb that eliminates pipe bang (the occasional firing on closed throttle deceleration that makes the bike lurch forward). If the Sherco 2 strokes had this they would be the perfect engine. Ive tried every jetting under the sun for my Sherco 300se but cvant get rid of that pipe bang

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +2

      Interesting. We have ridden the 2022 RR300 and it's a great engine too. Very smooth, almost as much grunt as the Sherco. But even with the dealer rejetting my bike, it didn't run that well. David Bates (in the vid) knows heaps about these bikes and suggested a leaner needle and it's run brilliantly ever since.

    • @slidewide1999
      @slidewide1999 11 місяців тому +1

      Not on the race editions. I think that’s actually just for the oil injection, it does nothing to alter fuel delivery.

  • @markozer0
    @markozer0 11 місяців тому +1

    How’s compared with Ktm-Husky in terms of agility, suspensions answer and traction ? Thanks

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      It would depend on your riding style, type of terrain, weight etc. As reported, the TPI engines are quite weak in comparison. Suspension is softer, too soft for some riders.

  • @joaoalexdias
    @joaoalexdias 3 місяці тому +1

    I would love to know your thoughts on the general constructions of the bike and parts durability. I own a Beta 300 race Edition for 2 years now, and the bike it's been used quite hard in all conditions, and had some crazy falls but it never broke anything major, in all this time I only broke 2 levers, I only replaced the radiators shrouds a few days ago. Is this something that also happens with a Sherco?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  3 місяці тому +1

      See our Sherco known issues vid (any updates are in the pinned first comment).

  • @mg_tv5448
    @mg_tv5448 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi, a little off topic, but do you have any experience with the old RFS KTM dirtbikes? I've owned it for a year now, but I find it so heavy, demanding to maintain. Compared to the Husabergs, it's such a strange display of the engine and a worse feeling when driving in the forest and uphills. Thanks

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      None at all, I was just riding an XR400 when the guys with money had the RFS models.

    • @mg_tv5448
      @mg_tv5448 11 місяців тому

      XRs are still today best dirtbikes@@crosstrainingenduro

  • @Howiau
    @Howiau 11 місяців тому +1

    Gday Cross Enduro training could you do a video on maintenance and how often you check things after a certain time /hrs
    Fork oil etc
    Cheers

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      We've had that request occasionally but it varies from bike to bike, and how old the bike is, and how aggressively you ride. Plus there is so little mechanical experience in our group I'd hate to lead anyone astray. 😢

    • @Howiau
      @Howiau 11 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro no worries mate I understand
      Cheers Howi

  • @midgetmoney1
    @midgetmoney1 11 місяців тому +1

    That fuel tap is ridiculous!!! Minor on the list though.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, we just put a $5 lawn mower fuel tap in. Easy. But crazy they haven't changed this despite years of complaints. It reminds me of the pointy sidestand on Beta models. I think it took Beta about 8 years to respond to constant criticism? 😂

    • @IdahoDualSport208
      @IdahoDualSport208 11 місяців тому

      @@crosstrainingenduroactually heard through the grapevine that was a rider design to prevent exposed fuel tap cracks and damages during hard enduro races. When you think about it, that would make sense considering how tucked away it is.

  • @devilsofthedirt3199
    @devilsofthedirt3199 11 місяців тому +1

    I’m glad I’ve got the last of the carbureted kato 2 strokes the reliability is just too good

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep, zero issues with our mate's 250EXC!

    • @ALB2073
      @ALB2073 11 місяців тому +1

      I have several mates with tpi pumkins with 450hrs of trouble free riding with just usual maintenance. All have the original oil pump as well.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Good to hear. This is the case for most TPI owners but there have been lots of horror stories out there which even created a shortage of top end parts in some countries according to KTM mechanics. Hopefully your mates are running the 'extreme' map that KTM which uses more oil?

  • @rvltrstudio1484
    @rvltrstudio1484 11 місяців тому +1

    I just got a brand new 2023 and rode it for 2 hours before mangling a finger (rider error, not the bike's fault). In my short time riding it it's been fantastic. I'm sure the 2024 are marginally better, but is that something that anyone but the most seasoned pros would notice?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +2

      I could be wrong, but I suspect that will be the case... only a pro rider might pick the difference.

  • @jw8556
    @jw8556 11 місяців тому +1

    I really like the fuel tape were it is you turn it on when you get it off the ute and turn it off when you wash it
    It's a no brainer it's not like it's a map switch

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Great it's working out for you. Quite a few fuel taps are very hard to turn even from brand new and despite lube.... ours included. We run our carbs dry before loading into the van and we have to get off the bike to reach in and wrestle with these hard-to-get-at stubborn taps. My brother and I have now fitted $5 lawnmower fuel taps that work really well. David (in the vid) has made a special tool to reach and turn his.

    • @jw8556
      @jw8556 11 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro ok fair enough the only thing l do is leave fuel in bowl to stop wear on needle and seat but it's more so on trailer or ute bouncing up and down it does cushion the vibes as in driving to Alice Springs or various events in other states and my tape has been easy as from day one my gripe at the minute is waiting for parts maybe it's just a 2019 125 and they don't make to many spares

  • @dewimtbmoto7586
    @dewimtbmoto7586 11 місяців тому +1

    Don't drown on that coolaide Barry. 😂

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Just gargling... 😎 Just glad I didn't buy one in the early days, they took a long time to get some of those known issues sorted out.

    • @dewimtbmoto7586
      @dewimtbmoto7586 11 місяців тому +1

      @crosstrainingenduro haha... I'm in the market in a year or so but I've had a TPI for nearly 120 hrs no issues at all. All hard enduro use. So not scared of technology. I was actually hoping Sherco had efi this year so it would be the 2nd model.
      Sherco is high on my list. A reputable dealer is 15 min from home.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Great to hear you've had no issues with the TPI. As mentioned most don't ... at least with the more recent models. But we've heard so many horror stories. And even KTM mechanics were quietly telling us there was a huge shortage of parts at times due to so many seized or prematurely worn top ends.

  • @crispincurtis8585
    @crispincurtis8585 10 місяців тому +1

    Any idea what year or years the Betas had issues with the main bearings??

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  10 місяців тому +1

      Did a very detailed video or two about this.

    • @crispincurtis8585
      @crispincurtis8585 10 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro thanks man I'll have a look,, Betas are neet bikes

  • @fastnr28
    @fastnr28 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the vídeo. Very precise. How about reliability? In our country (Brazil) we are having some problems with starter. I have 3 shercos (300 22, 300 16, 250 14 - all 2 strokes) and all of them had some kind of eletric start problem. I really like the Brand but its incredible How the pumpkin dominate the Market here.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  9 місяців тому +1

      Bummer about the electrical issues. I'm not aware of current problems there but in the past there were issues with the regulator and other bits which I covered in the Sherco known issues vid.

  • @mikeisland7382
    @mikeisland7382 9 місяців тому +1

    Since you've been building up the Sherco name with your videos they'd be wise to partner with you for that light adventure build. Somehow get a set of those KTM Rally tanks, the days of gas tanks on top are over. Just like the ATV industry switched years ago people want that lower center of gravity. Seems crazy that none of the high performance dual sports (street legal dirt bikes) offer a properly equipped dual sport. Instead we have to explain to the wife why our brand new bike still needs a new tank and seat. Making a "curb weight" number for the spec sheet warriors needs to end.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  9 місяців тому +1

      It is weird that no manufacturer has created an adv model of their big bore dirt bikes. Honda had a half-arsed attempt with the CRF450L. I thought about adventurising a Sherco 500SEF but a few issues.... the gearbox is a bit too close ratio. Small oil capacity. And the piston has a very short skirt, the outback tour group we rode with said they have been great bikes but they can see wear on the top and rear of the skirt due to guys lugging the engines. They are designed more to be revved which isn't all that great for adv riding.

    • @mikeisland7382
      @mikeisland7382 9 місяців тому

      @@crosstrainingenduro There was definitely an adjustment period for me moving from long stroke heavy flywheel dual sports to modern short stroke MX engines and learning to keep the revs up. I wonder if they weren't rental bikes if they'd see the same wear? I know there are guys getting way more life out of the 450L than the manual suggests.

  • @jmleban
    @jmleban 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi cross training enduro could you please do a video on the dt200r for short riders.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Unfortunately we tend not to review old bikes because there are so few of them around.... plus we don't know anyone who owns one so we couldn't get to ride it.

    • @jmleban
      @jmleban 11 місяців тому

      Okay

  • @EddiNice
    @EddiNice 10 місяців тому +1

    Greg review, however the Skydio is 🚀

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  10 місяців тому +1

      Yep, no more consumer models for Skydio, only commercial now. But they say they'll continue consumer support for 'as long as possible', whatever that means. 😒 I sold mine while it's still worth something. If that consumer support does stop, it could become a useless piece of junk next time it crashes.

  • @randybounds2244
    @randybounds2244 11 місяців тому +2

    How`s your Sherco holding up Barry?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +2

      Great, I've been adding further comments in the pinned first comment of the review vid. 👍

  • @Johnsmithabcde
    @Johnsmithabcde 7 місяців тому +1

    Any recommendations on which dealer to go buy a sherco from? , willing to travel for good customer service and the right price

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  7 місяців тому

      Which country? And if Australia, which state?

    • @Johnsmithabcde
      @Johnsmithabcde 7 місяців тому

      @@crosstrainingenduro Australia, NSW mainly, your video has sold me on this bike.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  7 місяців тому

      I don't know any dealers in NSW. I'd suggest trying the Sherco Australia owners page on Facebook, should get good recommendations there.

  • @WADZUP
    @WADZUP 28 днів тому +1

    Weight 250 Factory ? Nothing online

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  28 днів тому

      Like a lot of manufacturers Sherco seemed pretty dodgy with some of the claims... especially claiming their four stroke 300 was lighter than the 300 two stroke lol. I think they are playing it safe now and just not publishing them? They have slowly lost a bit of weight over the years but generally just a bit heavier than the KTMs and Betas. But lighter than the Rieju.

  • @ridewherever
    @ridewherever 7 місяців тому +1

    What are the subframes made out of?

    • @daveyboy7305
      @daveyboy7305 5 місяців тому +1

      I know the 2022 is aluminium. I welded a friends subframe up the other day . Don't think they've changes since then

  • @spatchist
    @spatchist 11 місяців тому +1

    I think Sherco spent all the two stroke development money on the trials bikes , not that there's anything wrong with that.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Word is there will be big changes for 2025. I hope they don't go for fuel injected two strokes. The main thing I'd like to see is the weight reduced by a few kg. The Shercos have usually been a bit heavier than the competition.

  • @EddyOtway
    @EddyOtway 11 місяців тому +1

    Have you had issues with chains coming off, with our local group every ride the shercos have the chain come off at least once and we all say it’s a sherco thing lol

    • @christopherlillia7831
      @christopherlillia7831 11 місяців тому +1

      Have also seen this in our group

    • @Dobemandan
      @Dobemandan 11 місяців тому +1

      Never

    • @user-dg2de7dh6r
      @user-dg2de7dh6r 11 місяців тому +1

      4 hours on my 22 and the chain came off snapped the gear selector shaft. Dealer recommended a better chain guide and put the chain guard back on… a couple of other guys I ride with have also had their chains derail.

    • @Dobemandan
      @Dobemandan 11 місяців тому +1

      Over 400 hours and never came off even once.. Stock chain guide for about 350 of those hours. Something must be off it's not normal. 2019 2 stroke.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +3

      We mentioned this in the pinned first comment of our long term 300SE review....
      "Weak chain guide? If you ride a lot of gnarly terrain you may find your chain derails if the guide is knocked around and you may want to fit a stronger aftermarket one. It's not just Sherco, Beta is well known for the same issue. Only KTM seems to provide a sturdy chain guide from the factory. Does it happen often? It depends on how you ride. We spend a lot of time in gnarly tracks but try to 'think' our way instead of bash through. I've had two chains derail in 18 months."

  • @wednesdar452
    @wednesdar452 11 місяців тому +2

    I have broken 4-5 spokes on my 2021 300SE. Front and rear. They really don't seem to like to get airborne! Have never broken spokes on full size dirt bike before.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Bummer. I searched far and wide over the past three years for Sherco known issues but haven't come across this one. I assume you did the usual spoke check after your first few rides?

    • @wednesdar452
      @wednesdar452 11 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro Yes. I maintain them with Husqvarna spoke wrench. What's interesting is they are not replaceable with the KTM spokes. They are skinnier right where the nipple feeds through the hub. Coincidentally, this is often where they pop!

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +2

      I'll keep an ear out for this. I did a quick google search and didn't come across it. But it might explain why they've changed the wheels. 🤔 My fellow rider in this vid, David Bates, knows these bikes inside out so I'll check with him.

  • @carlatamanczyk3891
    @carlatamanczyk3891 11 місяців тому +1

    I hope Sherco will be able to stay with carbed 2 strokes. I'm not a fan of troublesome TPI 2 strokes.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +2

      Same for us. We have ridden at least three TPI bikes with about $1000 in mods trying to regain that lost grunt. And they still fall short of the Beta and Sherco at low revs. Probably not important for typical dirt riding but a real issue for slow technical riding.

  • @maucina12
    @maucina12 7 місяців тому +1

    Do you really need more power at low revs on 300 saying ktm tpi lacks power? I see all the best riders in my country have no problems with it

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  7 місяців тому

      It depends on your style of riding. Generally the grunt of a 300 two stroke is the best option for hard enduro... as evidenced by almost every top rider being on a 300cc. But for faster enduro some riders will prefer a 250. As for TPIs lacking grunt, if the riders are sponsored by GasGas, Husqvarna or KTM then they have to ride the bike they are given. And of course their clutch skills are so impressive they just apply more revs. Although we also don't know if they get special mods done. E.g. TSP in Australia is making a fortune with head and ECU mods to bring the TPI bikes close to the performance of carb bikes.

  • @robertlambert7906
    @robertlambert7906 11 місяців тому

    What’s the numbers for the 500 factory

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому

      You mean specs? Just google '2024 Sherco 500SEF specs' and you'll find whatever Sherco have released so far.

    • @robertlambert7906
      @robertlambert7906 11 місяців тому

      @@crosstrainingendurocan’t find any hp numbers or tq

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому

      Not surprised, I don't think many manufacturers put those out anymore. And their reliability is questionable. Plus they often quote at the crankshaft, not the rear wheel, to get higher figures.

    • @robertlambert7906
      @robertlambert7906 11 місяців тому

      @@crosstrainingenduro ya I got a email back from sherco they said 47hp and they didn’t say the tq

    • @robertlambert7906
      @robertlambert7906 11 місяців тому

      @@crosstrainingenduro Hey Robert, The Sherco 500sef has 47HP and they do not have specs for the torque this was the email I got from them

  • @dan_the_man88
    @dan_the_man88 11 місяців тому +2

    "Beta have fixed their main bearing issues..." Err, my MY22 300 just had a main bearing failure at 68 hours. It'll be interesting to see if this is an isolated case or if we start to see more.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      Bummer, Rosie! Let me know how that turns out in terms of cause and customer support. We have tried to monitor the situation and added this note in the pinned first comment of relevant vids:
      STILL AN ISSUE IN 2020, 2021 & 2022 MODELS? A quiet chat with sponsored riders in Europe indicated it was still happening in 2020 models but at a much lower rate, one case was at only six hours. A viewer told me he attended a Beta demo ride day and the 2020 RR250 developed a main bearing noise and was pulled out halfway through the event. Another case was a 2020 RR300 at 10 hours, they replaced the entire engine but the new engine had the faulty bearing sound already. A 2021 model failed right off the showroom floor but that may have just been a freak occurrence hopefully. In another case, a 2021 model failed at 25 hours. There are a very small number of cases right up to 2022 models. A 2022 Xtrainer had both bearings fail at 35 hours. We hope this is an isolated case and it has really been fixed for 2022. Read more here: bit.ly/3KHhP1Z

  • @shawnmarks1400
    @shawnmarks1400 11 місяців тому +1

    I wish I could afford one or KTM

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  11 місяців тому +1

      It's where secondhand two strokes can be worth looking at. They should be about half the price at five years old? Engine-wise they are pretty simple, usually just a new top end and it should run well.

  • @carlhansen9512
    @carlhansen9512 7 місяців тому

    Disappointed you didn't even mention their new $5000 125 4-stroke.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  7 місяців тому

      This is an enduro channel with a leaning toward hard enduro, a four stroke 125 definitely doesn't fit the bill. Plus it's not currently being sold in Australia or the USA where all our viewers are based.

    • @carlhansen9512
      @carlhansen9512 7 місяців тому

      @@crosstrainingenduro they're bringing it to the states in 2024 for sure, not sure about Australia. This and the Beta 125 4t are more capable on Singletrack or enduro in general than they have any right to be. Feel free to look at my videos for an example. No way your DR650 bush pig can hold a candle to it on any sort of trail. 50 state street legal too

  • @cowboyanimal6700
    @cowboyanimal6700 10 місяців тому +1

    I can't help but think that Sherco is made in Wales and exclusively ridden by people who have intercourse with farm animals. I'm not judging, I just live in a shitty 3rd world country and know nothing about the brand.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  10 місяців тому +1

      😂 I have been strangely attracted to sheep since buying the Sherco...

  • @DeadRoman
    @DeadRoman 10 місяців тому +1

    They are just too freaking expensive.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  10 місяців тому +1

      Which country is that? Definitely well priced in Australia, seeing them everywhere here as the distributor has priced them very competitively.

    • @DeadRoman
      @DeadRoman 10 місяців тому +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro USA. Dirtbikes in general are crazy high. The 23 300 se factory is 9300 on sale right now