I agree with the comment about the UA-cam headline, no where does Sinclair mention modern mega churches and it is shame it was added in the caption. Those of us from a more charismatic tradition need teaching like this to encourage Christ centred worship and less songs about 'me' but captions like the above will drive those who need this teaching away, or most certainly cause them to watch with a defensive attitude. Good for Sinclair for just preaching the Word without trying to apply it into narrow assumptions. Let the word of God do its work.
This post is an unashamed click bait abusing only part of a great teaching by Sinclair Ferguson. There is no direct mention of any of the modern mega churches in the title picture.
For God so loved the world,that He gave His only begotten Son ,that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life John 3:16 we are all sinners , we must be born again in Christ Amen
The right worship from the first Church is described in the Bible and more precisely by Justin the Martyr. Eucharistic worshipping was the center, and is still present in the Catholic and Orthodox churches.Protestants have a poor liturgy although some of them live pious life.
Protestant early Church historian J. N. D. Kelly writes that in the early Church “the Eucharist was regarded as the distinctively Christian sacrifice. . . . Malachi’s prediction (1:10-11) that the Lord would reject Jewish sacrifices and instead would have ‘a pure offering’ made to him by the Gentiles in every place was seized upon by Christians as a prophecy of the Eucharist. Singing, bible reading, personal testimony, et., can be very uplifting for us psychologically and spiritually, but they are not worship... The Mass is worship, it is the sacrifice of Jesus 2,000 years ago, in unbloody form.
Great talk but it seems God has not read His own script. Old Testament worship was very complicated and priest led. There was incense and candles and a manual for how worship was to be conducted. Why introduce something that went against the very simple worship that Mr Ferguson is claiming is the authentic worship of the Bible. I raise this because I see a contradiction in the sermon that demands an explanation.
Not only that, but as a Presbyterian/Calvinist who affirms that God has ordained in eternity past "whatsoever comes to pass"(WCF) He is only criticizing what is own doctrine claims to be the manifest perfect will of God in the Earth. I.e., No abortionist performs any abortions other than those which God has pre-ordained. His only consistent/logical reply would be that his criticism is also pre-ordained by God. So, we have God ordaining Him to believe one thing is true as 'right doctrine' and God ordaining others to believe the opposite is 'right doctrine' and then ordaining them to debate each other... for God's own pleasure.🤦🏻♂ BUT... both cannot be true. So, at least one has been deceived by God... but which one? The Calvinist has already claimed God deceives people, even about Himself. They have no 'basis' to claim it is they who are correct.😎 If the Calvinist is correct, God cannot be trusted by anyone. f the Calvinist is wrong, we simply have two people who love God and disagree over interpreting certain scriptures.
@@jackiepowell7513 I'm sure Sinclair Ferguson is a sincere God-fearing man, and I cast no aspersions on him or his motivation. But, he is a Presbyterian Calvinist. Calvinism is a Determinist Theological system which maintains, “God from all eternity did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably ordain WHATSOEVER comes to pass". From the Westminster Confession of Faith 1648 " III. By the decree of God, for the manifestation of his glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life, and others foreordained to everlasting death." IV. These angels and men, thus predestinated and foreordained, are particularly and unchangeably designed; and their number is so certain and definite that it cannot be either increased or diminished." Foreknowledge is moot in Calvinism. NO amount of ink spilled beyond "whatsoever" alters the definition of "whatsoever". God has decreed and unchangeably ordained "whatsoever comes to pass". (It's not true, but it isn't complicated). At great length, the WCF of Calvinism proposes that it can somehow relieve God of the responsibility for the evil men do who continue in the reprobation which He ordained and determined. And yet, it is God who intentionally withholds any ability to do otherwise from them, and who still holds them accountable to eternal damnation for doing what he has unchangeably ordained them to do. The argument of 'secondary causes' is a failed semantical dodge unable to absolve God from ultimate position of Primary cause. However, if one becomes convinced to accept it's premise they must embrace it's unavoidable conclusion. It is humorous at best to those not blinded by the 'fog' of Calvinism, or not yet "enlightened" as Calvinists claim to be, whenever we see Calvinists complain about all the things which God has 'ordained in eternity past'. If this founding pillar is true, absolutely, nothing can occur but that which God has preordained....NOTHING occurs outside the perfect will God. The only logical response permitted within their belief system is that their opposition to whatsoever occurs is no less decreed than that which they oppose. Things opposed, like the 'false worship' he disapproves of, abortion, or even Jeffry Dahmer's appetite are no more than a manifestation of God's perfect will. If Calvinism is true, there can be no 'random' abortions, only those which God has already ordained in eternity past. In Calvinism, God is both the Arsonist and Fireman.
@@markusw.2690 But the text do not say THREE PERSONS !!! Eph.4 :6 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
@@michelhaineault6654 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one."-1st Jn. 5:7.
@@Glasguensis Yes in the book of acts they only baptize in the name of Jesus. Again the text never mention three persons...God is one and HE create all things ALONE and BY HIMSELF. Since when the words ALONE and HIMSELF mean many persons or many creators ???
I do pity people who get conned into these money making churches of greed and excesses All churches are about control and money but anyone who can’t see these evangelical churches are just as sick as it gets are really in need of help to escape. Try thinking more and get off your knees
I agree with the comment about the UA-cam headline, no where does Sinclair mention modern mega churches and it is shame it was added in the caption. Those of us from a more charismatic tradition need teaching like this to encourage Christ centred worship and less songs about 'me' but captions like the above will drive those who need this teaching away, or most certainly cause them to watch with a defensive attitude. Good for Sinclair for just preaching the Word without trying to apply it into narrow assumptions. Let the word of God do its work.
Correct. What is lacking is the pure Simplicity of Preaching God's Word. Worldliness has crept into the Church and brought Shame and dishonour to God.
Amen
Amen! Thank you for sharing this biblical message.
refreshing 🎉
Amen and thank you so very much
This post is an unashamed click bait abusing only part of a great teaching by Sinclair Ferguson. There is no direct mention of any of the modern mega churches in the title picture.
A more relaxed SF gives us a very powerful message
Thanks!
For God so loved the world,that He gave His only begotten Son ,that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life John 3:16 we are all sinners , we must be born again in Christ Amen
In spirit and in truth
Also in the beauty of holiness!
The right worship from the first Church is described in the Bible and more precisely by Justin the Martyr. Eucharistic worshipping was the center, and is still present in the Catholic and Orthodox churches.Protestants have a poor liturgy although some of them live pious life.
Oh my goodness, what an incredibly arrogant thing to say!!
Where can we find a link to the entire sermon?
“As if there were such a thing (grace).” ??????
Protestant early Church historian J. N. D. Kelly writes that in the early Church “the Eucharist was regarded as the distinctively Christian sacrifice. . . . Malachi’s prediction (1:10-11) that the Lord would reject Jewish sacrifices and instead would have ‘a pure offering’ made to him by the Gentiles in every place was seized upon by Christians as a prophecy of the Eucharist.
Singing, bible reading, personal testimony, et., can be very uplifting for us psychologically and spiritually, but they are not worship... The Mass is worship, it is the sacrifice of Jesus 2,000 years ago, in unbloody form.
Criticizing another man's servant is not worshipping God either.
Great talk but it seems God has not read His own script. Old Testament worship was very complicated and priest led. There was incense and candles and a manual for how worship was to be conducted. Why introduce something that went against the very simple worship that Mr Ferguson is claiming is the authentic worship of the Bible. I raise this because I see a contradiction in the sermon that demands an explanation.
Not only that, but as a Presbyterian/Calvinist who affirms that God has ordained in eternity past "whatsoever comes to pass"(WCF) He is only criticizing what is own doctrine claims to be the manifest perfect will of God in the Earth.
I.e., No abortionist performs any abortions other than those which God has pre-ordained.
His only consistent/logical reply would be that his criticism is also pre-ordained by God. So, we have God ordaining Him to believe one thing is true as 'right doctrine' and God ordaining others to believe the opposite is 'right doctrine' and then ordaining them to debate each other... for God's own pleasure.🤦🏻♂ BUT... both cannot be true. So, at least one has been deceived by God... but which one? The Calvinist has already claimed God deceives people, even about Himself. They have no 'basis' to claim it is they who are correct.😎
If the Calvinist is correct, God cannot be trusted by anyone.
f the Calvinist is wrong, we simply have two people who love God and disagree over interpreting certain scriptures.
CLICK BAIT.
Hmmm..... Are they not what God has predestined them to be?
Foreknowledge is not predestined. Study harder.
Are you AI, that's only what humans want, ironically.
@@jackiepowell7513 I'm sure Sinclair Ferguson is a sincere God-fearing man, and I cast no aspersions on him or his motivation. But, he is a Presbyterian Calvinist. Calvinism is a Determinist Theological system which maintains, “God from all eternity did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably ordain WHATSOEVER comes to pass". From the Westminster Confession of Faith 1648
" III. By the decree of God, for the manifestation of his glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life, and others foreordained to everlasting death."
IV. These angels and men, thus predestinated and foreordained, are particularly and unchangeably designed; and their number is so certain and definite that it cannot be either increased or diminished."
Foreknowledge is moot in Calvinism. NO amount of ink spilled beyond "whatsoever" alters the definition of "whatsoever". God has decreed and unchangeably ordained "whatsoever comes to pass". (It's not true, but it isn't complicated). At great length, the WCF of Calvinism proposes that it can somehow relieve God of the responsibility for the evil men do who continue in the reprobation which He ordained and determined. And yet, it is God who intentionally withholds any ability to do otherwise from them, and who still holds them accountable to eternal damnation for doing what he has unchangeably ordained them to do. The argument of 'secondary causes' is a failed semantical dodge unable to absolve God from ultimate position of Primary cause.
However, if one becomes convinced to accept it's premise they must embrace it's unavoidable conclusion. It is humorous at best to those not blinded by the 'fog' of Calvinism, or not yet "enlightened" as Calvinists claim to be, whenever we see Calvinists complain about all the things which God has 'ordained in eternity past'. If this founding pillar is true, absolutely, nothing can occur but that which God has preordained....NOTHING occurs outside the perfect will God.
The only logical response permitted within their belief system is that their opposition to whatsoever occurs is no less decreed than that which they oppose. Things opposed, like the 'false worship' he disapproves of, abortion, or even Jeffry Dahmer's appetite are no more than a manifestation of God's perfect will. If Calvinism is true, there can be no 'random' abortions, only those which God has already ordained in eternity past.
In Calvinism, God is both the Arsonist and Fireman.
They never worship God in trinity in the bible BUT IN SPIRIT.
2. Corinthians 13,13: 'May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all."
@@markusw.2690 But the text do not say THREE PERSONS !!! Eph.4 :6 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
@@michelhaineault6654 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one."-1st Jn. 5:7.
@@michelhaineault6654 Matthew 28:19 - "Baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". Note - "name is singular".
@@Glasguensis Yes in the book of acts they only baptize in the name of Jesus. Again the text never mention three persons...God is one and HE create all things ALONE and BY HIMSELF. Since when the words ALONE and HIMSELF mean many persons or many creators ???
I do pity people who get conned into these money making churches of greed and excesses
All churches are about control and money but anyone who can’t see these evangelical churches are just as sick as it gets are really in need of help to escape. Try thinking more and get off your knees
All?? You do err. The few I select are rare as the remnant that will be His bride.
"Me thinks thou protesteth too much"
@@jackiepowell7513 me thinks not sure you do