A lot of guys in feedlots I notice use neoprene cinches because they are easy to clean. I’ve seen more sore horses there than anywhere. Plus you may be opening and closing 100 gates or more a day. Use the best mohair or alpaca cinches you can get. Wash them every evening and change out your cinches every day, especially if pens are muddy. I just hang them on the fence and wash then when I wash my horse off. Feedlots are really hard on horses. Not just their bodies but their minds too. Rotate them in and out. They will last twice as long.
Iv never been on a feedlot but Iv talked to a lot of pen riders that say the same. My Brother was in a feedlot for a little while and Id buy cheap horses and put three or four rides on them then let him have them for a bit then trade them. We found they could take three weeks on a three day rotation and anymore than that was more than I could fix in a month.
I ride myWalker in a Boz endurance type saddle. I also have a Western and an Australian saddles. The Boz has an adjustable felt padding under the tree. I had it fitted for my horse and he set it so the felt was on the top of the shoulder. I use a crupper instead of a rear cinch and a brea st plate in front. The shoulder has to be free to work. She has become a bit nippy when saddling so I think a rib might be out and am going to have a chiropractor look at her and my saddle.
Excellent video. Thank you. Can you comment on 3 point rigging and what conformation of horse these are best for. I am a pleasure rider with a slightly downhill QH. I’ve had trouble not pinching her shoulder blade as the saddles often shift forward. I can’t seem to find a western saddle fitter here in Florida. Any suggestions on finding one? Thanks for any feedback.
It's a ways from home for a Missouri girl. I'm up in the far corner of nw Missouri riding colts and pen riding. Alot of ropings and ranch rodeos around here where guys don't have a tight back cinch. They need to be though.
I go where my quest of seeking knowledge takes me. Back cinches are an ongoing discussion in my part of the world too. I can tell them all I want but in the end it's up to them if they choose to apply the information.
Those are a new concept for me. The first time I ever saw one was when Bret was saddling a horse with it. It seemed like an interesting concept to be able to adjust your rigging position. There are several makers that go about the same idea a different way. In application, this particular cable rigging didn't seem to want to stay in the position it was set to. Since this is the first one I've encountered, I'm not sure if it's a universal issue or specific to the particular saddle I was looking at.
Well I am assuming she knows more about saddle fitting than I do. I’m just surprised to hear most are too wide. Everybody I know, myself included, are always trying to find saddles that don’t pinch the shoulders on our big broad quarter horses. So I thought I needed a wide tree. But maybe this is wrong? Something I’m doing is wrong, because I seem to go through this every spring - selling and buying different saddles trying to find a better fit.
So, I am a saddle maker, and therefore a saddle fitter. In my experience and opinion, female recreational riders are very frequently trying to use too wide a saddle on their horses, out of concern for pinching their horses shoulders. These saddles are also usually full or 7/8 double rigged, with a loose or nonexistent back cinch. The result often is a down hill saddle with ALL the cinch pressure on the front. Pinched shoulders are the result. It doesn't help that even the better brands of production saddles don't have the best skirt construction or rigging construction. Or the best trees either.
This was great. She was great. She’s a natural teacher and comfortable with the camera. You should have her back as often as possible
I agree
A lot of guys in feedlots I notice use neoprene cinches because they are easy to clean. I’ve seen more sore horses there than anywhere. Plus you may be opening and closing 100 gates or more a day. Use the best mohair or alpaca cinches you can get. Wash them every evening and change out your cinches every day, especially if pens are muddy. I just hang them on the fence and wash then when I wash my horse off. Feedlots are really hard on horses. Not just their bodies but their minds too. Rotate them in and out. They will last twice as long.
I tie my own cinches.
Iv never been on a feedlot but Iv talked to a lot of pen riders that say the same. My Brother was in a feedlot for a little while and Id buy cheap horses and put three or four rides on them then let him have them for a bit then trade them. We found they could take three weeks on a three day rotation and anymore than that was more than I could fix in a month.
Very informative. Thanks! (Nice looking colt there!)
thank you
Thanks. Best western saddle fit video that I’ve found.
im glad you dig it
Thank you, happy to help!
The more people know, the better off the horses are and the happier they both are.
I got more out of this video than any others, thanks!
cool, glad you liked it.
thank u. Jax, the best expiation on saddle fitting Ive seen, thank u Eric
she does good
Thank you Sir
Great video...thank you!
glad you liked it
Man! What I’m learning tonight, my hat won’t fit my BIG head tomorrow! If knowledge is power, I’m the Hulk baby!!!
well that is great!
I ride myWalker in a Boz endurance type saddle. I also have a Western and an Australian saddles. The Boz has an adjustable felt padding under the tree. I had it fitted for my horse and he set it so the felt was on the top of the shoulder. I use a crupper instead of a rear cinch and a brea st plate in front. The shoulder has to be free to work. She has become a bit nippy when saddling so I think a rib might be out and am going to have a chiropractor look at her and my saddle.
good idea
Why did you not mention saddle placement? One of the important things about fit.
who knows? That was two years ago.
What is her contact info I’m in iowa maybe i could bring my horse to you to look at. I’m so frustrated with my saddle or pad or both
Jax Butler on FB. She can help you
Excellent video. Thank you.
Can you comment on 3 point rigging and what conformation of horse these are best for. I am a pleasure rider with a slightly downhill QH. I’ve had trouble not pinching her shoulder blade as the saddles often shift forward. I can’t seem to find a western saddle fitter here in Florida. Any suggestions on finding one? Thanks for any feedback.
Jax?
It's a ways from home for a Missouri girl. I'm up in the far corner of nw Missouri riding colts and pen riding. Alot of ropings and ranch rodeos around here where guys don't have a tight back cinch. They need to be though.
I go where my quest of seeking knowledge takes me.
Back cinches are an ongoing discussion in my part of the world too. I can tell them all I want but in the end it's up to them if they choose to apply the information.
Many folks don't recognize the importance of a back cinch
I’d love to hear her thoughts about a cable rig
Those are a new concept for me. The first time I ever saw one was when Bret was saddling a horse with it.
It seemed like an interesting concept to be able to adjust your rigging position. There are several makers that go about the same idea a different way.
In application, this particular cable rigging didn't seem to want to stay in the position it was set to. Since this is the first one I've encountered, I'm not sure if it's a universal issue or specific to the particular saddle I was looking at.
Brett has a rigging video where he shows a cable rig. As I recall he wasn't impressed LOL.
I have always chosen a pretty saddle I feel stupid now
Well pretty is good as well.
Wait, what?? Did she say most saddles are too wide??
That is what she said. Right or wrong?
Well I am assuming she knows more about saddle fitting than I do. I’m just surprised to hear most are too wide. Everybody I know, myself included, are always trying to find saddles that don’t pinch the shoulders on our big broad quarter horses. So I thought I needed a wide tree. But maybe this is wrong? Something I’m doing is wrong, because I seem to go through this every spring - selling and buying different saddles trying to find a better fit.
Look her up on FB and have a chat with her, she is really knowlagable.@@emilylewis7642
So, I am a saddle maker, and therefore a saddle fitter. In my experience and opinion, female recreational riders are very frequently trying to use too wide a saddle on their horses, out of concern for pinching their horses shoulders. These saddles are also usually full or 7/8 double rigged, with a loose or nonexistent back cinch. The result often is a down hill saddle with ALL the cinch pressure on the front. Pinched shoulders are the result. It doesn't help that even the better brands of production saddles don't have the best skirt construction or rigging construction. Or the best trees either.