Soldier Boy: The Villain Nobody Wanted to Lose
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Soldier Boy has always fascinated me, because he's one of the most toxic characters in the show, but he comes with such a strong backing from the fanbase. Like, seriously, people are criticizing Butcher for not siding with him. He was going to murder Ryan. I know the ending isn't super sweet, but...wow.
Not to mean that I didn't like him too. I loved his presence and I found him to be an absolutely HILARIOUS part of the cast. Sure, I wish we could have some more time with him (who knows? maybe we will), but he was also a HUGE issue. I was not eager to see him running around causing chaos in the coming seasons. We got enough sh*t to deal with.
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Should probably clarify the whole “Soldier Boy is gay” thing bc a couple of y’all are a lil confused- so this is just my interpretation of the information Butcher was given from MM at the beginning of season 3 (ep. 2). This was regarding Gunpowder and the abuse leveled at him when he was SB’s sidekick.
It’s never *explicitly* stated that this abuse is sexual. Butcher makes a joke alluding to this, but it is Butcher…so who knows? Gunpowder does deny it. People in the comments have reminded me that this is not a sure or confirmed thing (except for the comics version, apparently). I do think it is rather open-ended though. It could’ve happened, but it’s not an absolute certainty.
Either way, should not have said that he was gay. (Even if he did sleep with men, which he most likely didn’t, he does still sleep with women in the show so technically he’d be bisexual.) Just some extrapolation on my part and I apologize for the confusion! Thanks to everyone who pointed this out to me!
P.S. *No*, I didn’t assume he was gay just bc he’s hot.
You literally said he "hides his homosexuality". Take some responsibility for what you say, dude.
Well in the flashback with his team he does abuse them by beating the hell outa them
@@ghostofuchiha3807I do- I should not have said that he was hiding the fact that he’s gay. That’s not confirmed and frankly there isn’t much evidence to point to it. Reading the comments has helped me more understand the context of what Butcher said. I do apologize!
@@ghostofuchiha3807He literally is. Anybody with eyes can see that he said "I should not have said he was gay" and realize that he's taking responisbility for it.
what's not to like about soldier boy,
Loyal, true to the mission,
The mission is kill Homelander,
not even a kid can stop him.
then Butcher got cold feet. killing homelander
stupid plot
I think fans like Soldier Boy because he never switches sides or lies. He is 100% consistent.
That is definitely a main reason for me. I idolize characters who never change themselves at all! Example being Jegal Taek, Frieza, Kongou Akira, or Walter Kovacs.
he actually DOES lie, it's one of the main traits of his character, he's constantly lying about his war experience because of his insecurity, when it was revealed that he didn't even participate in the war as much as he brags about
@@prska he dint lie. he absoluty believe his war stories.
@@Richardwho-vv5bh you're saying that he's lying to himself? that he imagines himself on the front lines of a battle and he actually thinks his imaginations are real?
even if he really does that, it still doesn't change the fact that it's still a lie
@@Richardwho-vv5bh I feel like people who love and root for soldier boy have never been verbally abused, bullied (physically and verbally), and/or were never put down and told by insecure jerks that they weren’t good enough, especially if any of that became continuous
Counterpoint, Jensen Ackles is a very attractive man
I second this
Fact
Yeah man no wonder dean got with so many girls including many threesomes.
He is one of those handsome actors who over time became monsters in their acting, it's a shame that not all of them are like that...
I'm not gay but Jensen Ackles is Jensen Ackles
Another reason why people like him is because he was the only character with more than 2 brain cells in the finale.
Yeah... I hate how the villains in this show are the only ones that are ever competent... like him and stormfront
@@firefly9838 Stormfront was crazy and dumb, what competent are you yapping about, they showed Soldier Boy as a villain in the finale even tho he was partially right.
@@firefly9838respectfully, stormfront was not competent lmao
@@firefly9838 only thing storm front was competent at, was getting off homelander while being crippled.
@@firefly9838stormfront? competent? were we watching the same show?
So crazy to think that Jensen Ackles considered playing Captain America for the MCU at one point, Jensen is literally Soldier Boy, he was literally BORN to play him. I can’t see anyone else play Soldier Boy.
Tbf I’d rather seen him fighting Thanos with thors hammer than Chris any day, way better actor imo.
@@rikflare7970 I’d still be down to see Jensen Ackles play the new Captain America for the rebooted MCU after Avengers: Secret Wars
Actualy he compete for the role of Clark Kent in Smallvile
You KNOE Chris Evans would have been an awesome Soldier Boy by contrast. Imagine him from Fantastic Four or Not Another Teen Movie
no shit, the role was made for jensen
to add to his complexity, he seemed to have genuine remorse for killing a bunch of people when he exploded in the streets after his PTSD episode
Yeah that wasn’t really his fault either
Yeah, Homelander is pure psycho and it seems Ryan is going in that direction while Soldier Boy is more relatable.
I noticed he only tweaked and lost control when he heard Russian
He doesn't have shell shock fuck you
It also looked like he felt bad for killing MM's family after Butcher said that the TNT Twins were upstairs.
It honestly felt like half way through the season they realized “ah shit, we made him way too likable” and started editing the script to make him more of a piece of shit but the damage was already done by that point
It really does
He was a fake World War II veteran whose closest teammates/friends despised him.
I think he always sucked, he just hid a lot of the underbelly because that’s usually what fake heroes do.
Even Homelander doesn’t openly act villainous until the end of episode 1.
He even tries to keep up a “come on, guys, don’t fight in front of Starlight!” face for a while.
@@christianc.christian5025 He wasn’t a fake world war 2 veteran, he just didn’t storm Normandy
@@nikeiyomiuri2728Yeah, that’s a fake veteran, man.
He didn’t fight in the war in either the series or the source material. Why do you think they’d pretend he was a part of the Normandy invasion if he really was active elsewhere in Europe?
From the wiki: “The Legend claimed that his participation in the war was Vought propaganda whereas Stan Edgar actually claims the opposite by claiming that he killed Germans by the dozens.”
‘He only lied about Normandy; the rest was true’ is a conclusion drawn in contrast to what’s established.
Another reason is that he wasn't enhanced by the Russians
He was TORTURED
For years
And after he came out he did seem different and somewhat emphatic of his past
Him not joining homelander and even agreeing to take down homelander down was enough for the fans to hope he might become somewhat good
Butcher turning on soldier boy cost them an opportunity and now there is a stronger mini version of homelander that's growing up to be evil.
Well the compound v explosion is a new power he got from the russian
@@norminpontu9905 they didn't "give" to him
They experimented on him and he evolved
And I wouldn't even call it a power given how he NEEDS to explode to dispel the energy or else...
I made that comment cos it sounds like in the video that he's disgusted by soldier boy (understandable).
But not at butcher?
Butcher has done messed up things too if we look at it from that lens
@@daviohla6841 the russians experimented on him with radiation and that gave him his new powers. You can check the wiki if you don’t believe me mane
@@daviohla6841Butcher is definitely *not* a “traditional hero” but I’d really hope that you can tell the reason(s) why someone would criticize Ben and not Billy.
Billy fights back (in an ugly way, at times) against people who want to consolidate their own personal power for the purpose of abusing it.
Soldier Boy not only has false valor, he’s also a vitriolic supremacist.
Butcher is a *real* soldier who didn’t need super-powers in order to do that job… And while he’s a prick and says a lot of offensive shit, he doesn’t base how much collateral damage he causes on whether or not they’re a working-class family in Harlem.
EVERYTHING soldier boy did that was actually fucked up is in the past. At the point of the show, he actually shows growth and that he learned from his mistakes (still a dick, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't really do anything wrong during the time the show takes place). He keeps his word, keeps collateral damage to a minimum (unless you wanna blame him for his PTSD), and is genuinely a positive role model for everyone around him. Of course, he is meant to represent "toxic masculinity", so he has a cartoonishily evil background and everyone turns against him in the end. Soldier boy was right.
Soldier Boy is liked because he feels flawed but redeemable, unlike Homelander. We see several examples of him caring for others. For one, he seems genuinely remorseful when he accidentally blows up in New York. He also seemed to care for Crimson Countess, looking devastated when she says she hates him.
The next time we see him, he's angry about what happened in Afghanistan after having presumably served there, further showing some semblance of care about what he was fighting for. After being tortured for 30 years, he's disgusted upon coming into contact with Homelander because he realizes how Homelander is a reflection of the horrible person he himself used to be.
Just because he feels sorry sometimes doesn't mean he's redeemable in any way. He didn't feel sorry for the families he killed and like he himself said that he doesn't have problems with killing people who stays in his way basically collateral damage like in herogasm all those people who died because of him blowing up. Even before all that he also abused his teammates in payback. He's hilarious but still a mass murderer.
@@adamturek210 His explosion at Herogasm was purely accidental. After the 30 years of isolated torture, he doesn't seem to go out of his way to hurt innocent people. He's not a good person, but he's a lot more more likable and genuine than characters like Homelander and Stormfront who will kill people simply because they enjoy it.
@@adamturek210he was never shown to not care
@@adamturek210he was never shown to not care
@@adamturek210 rewatch his scenes more closely
Not to discredit soldier boy at all, but I think part of the reason we love him so much is because we hate homelander so much(mostly because Anthony Starr as homelander is God tier acting), that we are willing to put up with soldier boy just to finally kill homelander
Soldier Boy is just based. That’s all there is to it.
But I love Homelander 👀
Antony…..Antony Starr
Watch the capital g
Not true homelander is a fan favorite and same for soilder boy. The only reason people like soilder boy is because hes badass and he does whatever he wants while not giving a f what people think. So your comment doesn't make sense
At a few Supernatural conventions, Jensen Ackles has been asked the difference between playing a hero like Dean Winchester and a villain like Soldier Boy, and he said an inspiration for his performance was Lee Marvin's response to a similar question: that he has "never played a bad guy in his life." Soldier Boy genuinely believes he is a good guy. That sincerity is hilarious and awful in one so wrong-headed, but a strong performance can make it almost sympathetic. The audience might end up rooting for such a character to become the good guy he believes he is, and maybe part of the tragedy of the character's story is that mismatch between the audience's hopes and the character's reality. Who doesn't love a good redemption arc, but what happens if the character in question tramples all over that arc? Makes me wonder where Soldier Boy's story is headed, if he even returns at all (I hope so).
Yeah, I think a lot of people miss this when they hear an authority figure trying to justify an abuse of power by claiming “that person was a criminal/had it coming.”
A lot of those authority figures might actually believe that - even when they’re lying, they might believe the lies are justified by the ends - but it’s why it’s so important to not require the admission of wrongdoing when deciding if someone in power abused theirs.
A lot of them will *always* think they’re Batman… no matter what they do.
He played red hood... so he technically has played a "bad" guy
@@flamer38544He was also a demon in supernatural for a short time.
KInda remindt me of Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2 and Pre-Sequel.
He also believes he is the Hero until the End.
I think the writers thought Soldier Boy would be less genuinely liked than he was.
it’s hard to hate jensen
I’ve yet to see a single fan that hates Jensen. Dudes a magnificent actor.
@@darkclaw1462there’s people who hate him simply because so many people like him
I've seen that side of things. When people get mad because they don't get the hype or when they think he's overshadowing their favourites etc. Still even on toxic twitter he fares better than most popular actors.
He is almost universally loved by men and women as the most fuckable man on TV for 20 years
@@darkclaw1462 He also does a great batman voice.
While morally grey characters can be interesting, there is something refreshing about an unrelenting piece of work as a villain that makes them a palate cleanser for people who are tired of mushy characters who won't own their behavior or give excuses. The man is a jerk and he makes no bones about it
I think he’s also a good depiction of someone who is “cool” and “principled” when at rest, but then loses it under pressure. This effect seemed to worsen after his confinement by the Russians.
A lot of people see themselves as “the good guy” because they simply discount or excuse any bad moments as outlying circumstances.
@@christianc.christian5025he is not principled I hope you used " to signify tgt
@@georgeterpsidis8143 he very much is principled. He held his word to Butcher even when it turned out he was asked to kill his son. That is principled
@@mr.p215absolutely
Yeah hes quite interesting, a terrible person for sure but he at least has some morals. Unlike homelander who is 100% selfish always there are moments when soldier boy is selfless, hes more like a bigoted old man then a creepy weirdo like homelander.
Homelander is a gross creepy narcissist who loves attention and cares only about himself and soldier boy is a bigoted old man with PTSD who has suffered at the hands of toxic masculinity while making others suffer from it too.
Neither are good but soldier boy is just less creepy and gross, he still has that old man misogynist ickiness but doesnt come off as revolting to me like homelander. I would hate them both in real life but I would rather deal with someone like soldier boy them homelander.
Soldier boy is liked because he does not care. He does not try to hide anything, he act the way he is. In a show where nearly every character is manupulative he stands out as different.
He is also never "shown" to be as bad in the present as we see in supposed memories or as people talk about him.
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kkisn’t he an asshole The ENTIRE show??
I feel like it’s a really depressing commentary on society when we like a character just for being a consistent, honest person. Even if he’s consistently and honestly an awful human being. There’s just so few of us like that.
@@mh98177 facts
Literally lies about storming Normandy.
I think its 3 key reasons.
-Homelander is worse to deal with
-Jensen ackles as an actor.
-And soldierboy being fun even though hes a bad guy.
I'm genuinely glad jensen and jared managed to avoid the CW curse.
Did Jared tho? He just did yet another TV show, a remake no less.
Afaik they are bringing Jared into the boys
What's the CW curse?
Reasons no one wanted to lose soldier boy:
50% because Jensen Ackles aka dean winchester plays him
50% he isn't scared to run the fade with HL
I don't think Soldier Boy knew about the Bill Cosby arrest. He was just bringing up someone he thougt he knew from before he was captured. Also with how strong Soldier Boy is he probably didn't realize the drinks were spiked.
Huey said there is a lot to unpack there. Also yes he is a bad person but he at least isn't an active threat to civilians as long as his PTSD doesn't trigger. Even when he saw people doing stuff he doesn't agree with he didn't go over beat the hell out of them he just rolled his eyes or said some jab while watching the TV.
Agreed
@@arananime3156 Given enough time he would. He probably wouldn't care about Cosby considering he pulled a Cosby on Gunpowder at least once if not multiple times when he didn't have access to women. He almost beat Black Noir to death when confronted with the fact that he lied to the producer of Beverly Hills Cop. Because he was threatened that Black Noir might have a shot at blowing up to become a big star at a time when Solider Boys career wasn't what it had been. Wanting everyone on the team to be subservient to him the way Gunpowder put up with being physically abused on a regular basis in front of all of them for "training purposes."
I am not going to argue about who I think is the bigger threat between Solider Boy and Homelander. You can with a lot of effort knock Solider Boy out so the pragmatic view would have been to let him kill Ryan. When this was the only time they ever had a chance and a way to get rid of Homelander. Considering Homelander would not be able to do it as skillfully but if pushed would do to Earth what Nolan did to the invading time dilation planet in season 1 of Invincible. And then regret it the next day since he likes to destroy things but he also wants people to do work for him and an Earth in ashes with him alone, he'd go mad being the last man on earth after a month, well more mad than he already is.
Butcher had his Starlord in Infinity War moment. Though it came from a slightly more selfless place, instead of giving in to his urge to hurt the person who hurt him. He put aside the one thing he's wanted to do for almost a decade and honored the promise he made to his wife regarding her son. Unlike Starlord who could have waited for a couple of minutes, and used one of the stones to pulverize Thanos.
@@dcworld4349 what? Gunpowder literally said soldier boy didnt fuck him, he just beat him up like noir.
@@timwoods8297 And you think he had no reason to hide his shame? In a show that is filled with both over very overt and more subtle covert subtext. Where the overt subtext is often put right in your face as lampshading, and they do it the right way. Rather than using it as an excuse for poor writing. It gets used in the meta narrative. While the subtle covert subtext is never tackled directly.
It's not exactly a stretch that Gunpowder put up with a lot more than just beatings. He could wear that as a sick badge of honor "I took regular beatings from Soldier Boy and lived to tell about it." The other thing, it's hard enough for women to say that it's happened to them despite people being much more understanding of it. This is a man and he was supposed to be this mans Bucky, his Robin, of course he's going to lie not just to other people but bury it and lie to himself about it.
Also if that's not enough we know there is one scene that Ackles straight up refused to do when he got the script. We don't know exactly what it is, but his language of why he refused. And the fact that he's had no problem doing some very horrible things in the show. Does narrow it done pretty easily.
@@dcworld4349or it didn’t happend in Show universe.
I think people like Soldier Boy because he contrasts Homelander directly. Homelander is an ill-intented guy who poses as if he's perfect, and Soldier Boy is a somewhat well meaning guy who's too stubborn and self-centered to accept that he isn't.
I mean he only slapped/punched (can't remember which one) Hughie for insulting him and only killed his teammates.
@@dillydraws and?
@@dillydrawshe only killed his teammates who were the biggest pyscopaths in the world.
@@dillydraws That crybaby Hughie had it coming.
@@dillydrawshe slapped Hughie for calling him out about not storming d day and not actually being in the war.
We like him, because
1. He's consistent on what he does. He doesn't kill anyone without a reason. Yes, collateral damage is present, but it's mostly due to him fighting someone.
The two times that he exploded and people died were due to his PTSD, which is understandable.
2. He has an understandable motivation for what he's doing.
3. He's macho man, but he makes it work and it's not looking like a stereotype.
4. Jensen's acting and charisma - yep, he brought this character to life and made him smth bigger than he appeared to be at first.
I think the reason people were upset about Butcher turning on Soldier Boy in the finale is that its shown his powers remove compound V from supes and it doesn't usually outright kill them. Ryan and Homelander likely would've survived the blast but been left powerless. Ryan could've gone on to live as normal as a life as a kid put in such a horrible situation could and Homelander could've been taken off the playing field for good.
We actually don't know if Ryan and Homelander would have survived for sure, They aren't regular Super's that were given there powers as babies, They both born with their powers, for example Ryan had his powers from since he was in his mother's womb, and his father Homelander is The same way because Their powers are so connected to their biology, removing them could be like removing their heart's or removing their brains from their bodies, We really don't know if they can even go on living without their power's.
@@davidcarty7584Not to mention, while Maeve survived a complicated situation, the Crimson Countess and almost everyone at Herogasm outright died.
I don’t know where this theory that Ryan and Homelander would’ve survived comes from, but Kimiko and Maeve were both hit indirectly either by jumping into the blastwave or by tackling him out a window as he was going off.
@victornieves1794 True but those supes don't poses the same endurance, strength and impenetrable skin as Homelander and Ryan. They where killed by the blast like a normal people would be killed by it.
It is made pretty clear the this special power "burns" V from the blood. The fact that it comes in the form of an explosion/blast would obviously kill those supes that can't handle an explosion.
But for example those who do have that ability, like Homelander, Ryan, Butcher obviously Maeve, Stormfront maybe, would survive but they would be affected by the depowering effect.
Not sure about Ryan regarding it's depowering. He could, maybe even should keep it's powers as he was never given compound V.
@@christianc.christian5025 Maeve's survival literally made me groan. The most inconsistent thing ever.
Exactly what I thought
I think you forgot to mention, Soldier Boy was technically Right.
Many people would still be alive if Butcher didn’t turn on him. Homelander would be dead and yes Ryan too but with what is happening to Ryan now it may have been better that way.
This 👆 now thanks to Butcher, Homelander is at the top and could very well be responsible for millions of lives
MM's family was a mistake, and Ryan is a second homelander in that fight.
No where is it clear that he "loves" killing children, and compared to the rest of the superheroes he's not THAT bad.
yeah. him bragging about killing many other families is probably because he sees remorse as weakness, because of his asshole father
he also seemed to regret when he first exploded and killed all those civilians. i think he has no problem killing people but frenchie and butcher have done worse
@@warpig331he just stricked ryan to push him out of the combat. Everyone acting like soldier boy was trying to kill ryan. No he just wanted to kill homelander. He doesn't give a fuck about anyone else.
Yeah he killed no children Im damn sure
Infact he never killed anybody for fun
He even showed remorse after accidentally blasting a nuke
Another reason for liking him that a lot of people don't give him enough credit for is that he seemingly gets shit done. A lot of superhero shows, and TV shows in general for that matter these days, have characters constantly fretting over whether or not they're doing the right thing. Equally, main characters get in dire straits because they won't kill the villain/have to make some grand social commentary gesture.
In a show that is ostensibly a satire of superheroes, The Boys has their characters do that superhero cliche constantly. So when a character, even if they're the bad guy, skips that crap and just does "the thing," it becomes a relief. After all, someone has to advance the plot.
gay dudes trying not to project their gayness on fictional characters challenge (impossible)
Literally
I mean there is the whole soldier boy abusing gunpowder as a minor but its never confirmed if it was sexual and i think people just took "abuse" and ran with it
you arent straight if you cant admit when a guy is sexy
Lmao goated comment
@@NUCL3AR991it's literally confirmed to be physical not sexual
I will point this out. Soldier Boy only hit Ryan because the kid blasted him with heat vision. When he was about to use his beam weapon on Homelander, Ryan just happened to be in the way. If Butcher had bothered to answer his phone, he would have known that Ryan was there at Vought. They could have made a plan around that. While I don't condone killing kids, this was their best chance to kill Homelander.
Whenever Soldier Boy was on screen I was always entertained
I thought it was, from a purely "greater good" point of view, illogical turning on soldier boy for one reason: soldier boy has been and can be contained.
Sure he was going to murder a child, but in exchange of finally ridding the world from the stain that is Homelander, someone who actually can't be contained, it was worth the sacrifice.
I think most people feel this way until it’s their relative or acquaintance who’s being sacrificed.
@@christianc.christian5025true, but if home lander lives, then more of their relatives could be killed but I understand that still wouldn't make some make that choice, even me
Its also not even a 100% guarantee that they would have died in the first place, as both are extremely durable and other supes like kimiko and some herogasm dudes survived getting hit
By murdering the child, he wouldve actually ridded the world of yet *another* Homelander. And they presented him as the villain for that? And then they show Brian smile as an innocent man gets murdered? It doesnt work.
I promise you Soilder Boy was not thinking "Oh man, I gotta kill Homelander because he's evil and he hurts people and that's bad!!"
Homelander: Liquid Snake
Butcher: Solid Snake
Soldier Boy: Big Boss
Hughie: Naked Raiden
Venom Snake: Black Noir
damn💀😂
EXACTLY!!!
Does that mean Hughie is Raiden?
@@Sebastian_Rabbit yep
After Googling this, this is so accurate 😂
Part of it is probably to do with Jensen Ackles just OOZING charisma. He's the one guy who could kick a puppy and a significant number of people would probably be like "oh okay, thats fine".
Yikes.
Soldier boy was likable tragic and a product of his time. Jensen's portrayal was perfect.
I don't really see soldier boy as a villain, just an asshole with superpowers, he didn't "murder MM's family" on purpose, he was just being an idiot and throwing a car into a house without thinking about the consequences, i don't think he's good, just alot better than Homelander
I think Homelander is far worse. Soldier Boy is an irresponsible jackass but a whole lot more manageable...
@@saidi7975 same here, i completely agree with you.
You meant to say "just a lot better than Homelander." or "just not worse than Homelander."
Wait Soldier Boy was a villain? News to me.
It's probably because you got bullied in school and project yourself onto this character.
Or
You lack very basic media literacy, to one of the most easiest to understand shows in the world. One of these two, may I suggest Sophia the First?
@@theone8602 he wasn't the villain
@@theone8602 The only time he's portrayed as a villain on screen is when he abuses his team full of serial murderers... but it's hard to villainize him for that.
@theone8602 God what a douchey comment lol
@@ManOfX305 Mother's milk family?
"I'm not thirsting over this mAn"💅💅💅
I wish they explained soldier boy killing MM's family better I still have no idea how tf that all went down.
I know he threw a car into their home but why and how? was he fighting someone and the car he threw accidentally killed MM's family or did soldier boy just decide "fuck this family in particular"?
It seemed to me Soldier Boy just pulled an A-Train. The common trait between the comic and the show (aside from every supe is a bit of a pervert) is very few Superheroes actually care. The difference between Homelander and every other Superhero is he's actively vindictive and malicious to people. I think Soldier Boy shares those traits but he doesnt really revel in that or seek it out. He seems mostly content to just exert dominance over the people around him.
@@arcanefury3666so he was just reckless and uncaring of the collateral? Yeah I can see that being how it went down.
@@mr.protagonist5639 basically like very avenger movie where we don't know how but every time hulk or any other hero comes along the entirety of NY is always safe somewhere and they could give a rats ass about the collateral( but the boys shows that's not true , similar to how we saw supes finally being held in trial for their irresponsible actions in civil war)
It's obviously collateral since the show itself often shows supes causing collateral damages to civilians, like how A-train accidentally ran through Hughie's girlfriend.
It's obvious that it was only collateral damage, but the show through its writing and MMs portrayal that THAT isn't why MM hates him, but rather that Soldier Boy is a white supremacist without ever showing how he is. People are tired of seeing people be labeled as racist, sexist, or some other ist just because of an action without ever attempting to understand the full story.
only one reason i have respect for soldier boy. Hes the only one that kept his word. Even tho he was a jerk he made a deal with billy to take down homelander and DESPITE finding out homelander was his son and he had a grandson he was STILL gonna honor that deal. All billy had to do was get the dumbasss kid out the way smh
Soldier Boy really is one of the best additions to the Boys that makes this Series more, he’s like a washed up Steve Rogers that grew up in a Harsh Environment that he became the same Trauma that created him, you can feel Sympathy but you know he’s Completely Unstable, and you know he’s Dangerous but he’s Funny in a Dark Humor and in a Way he’s not technically Wrong but he’s as Abusive as his Father, all in all I’m hoping we get to see him return in the Future.
It’s funny cause the whole time this guy is complimenting soldier boy you can hear him smiling like he’s gushing about his school crush.
Yeah. This guy is very fucking fruity.
0:25 someone has to tell bro about Anakin skywalker 😭
Exactly just like the younglings
Another reason is compared to Homelander, this dude is practically a saint. Homelander is an unhinged and unpredictable psychopath who could snap at any minute. Soldier Boy is someone who (for the most part) has all of his screws tightened down. I mean, he has a twisted sense of morality and definitely has "shell shock," but he is not an unhinged ruthless crybaby like Homelander. They are both bad men, but Soldier Boy is less of a bad man than Homelander.
I never thought about Termite being permanently small, since the blast removes your powers.
Honestly, a great twist I was hoping would occur in s3 was Homelander simply dying, and then they could pivot into making Soldierboy the new main antagonist. It would have been shocking, but I think it could have really worked too!
He would be a more interesting villain.
You don’t even have to kill homelander. Could have just used the blast and make him manageable.
I think a big part of the show is waiting for homelander to finally snap. I would've been dissapointed if they killed him off earlier
The thing is, I don't think he is a villain. His motives aren't exactly evil anymore and they don't exactly oppose our heroes. He's a bad person, but his goals aline with our heroes and each are about the same culpability for his action in modern day. I still say that they didn't need to stop soldier boy to save Ryan because his goal wasn't to kill the kid, just uphold his deal and think he'd understand if butcher said he has his own deal to uphold. I think this is why I still see him as anti-hero/occasional antagonist, not really a villain and probably adds to his likeability
I feel like soldier boy was just misunderstood and when he saids to to Homeland your disappointment I think it’s him looking at himself and see what he become
@@griffeltheestarvlogsmckee8327 I feel like people who love and root for soldier boy have never been verbally abused, bullied (physically and verbally), and/or were never put down and told by insecure jerks that they weren’t good enough, especially if any of that became continuous
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674i was bullied for aroun 9-10 years, affected my psyche till even now, but even then i root for sb
@@JJARCHIE serious question: would you have said the same (rooting for Sb) if you were in college and got personally bullied in college/adulthood?
And what makes you root for sb?
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 it wouldnt change for me.
Because in a room of evils, he has the most visible and weaker hand.
Soldier boy is a terrible person, but that doesnt mean what he wants to achieve is wrong - he openly accepts things tho at a slower pace, for being a bad guy he sure does just let LGBTQ stuff fly around him, he has rage fits but that is worsened due to his ptsd. Give soldier boy a good reason and a bit of leeway and he would do wonders.
Wait hold on where is it stated that he is homosexual in the show, I’m genuinely curious that caught me off guard, in the comics he is I mean everyone fucked everything in there but when is it said in the show wat episode?
Referring to his relationship with Gunpowder- it’s stated in the show (I believe in Season 3, Episode 2) that Soldier Boy used to sexually abuse him when he was SB’s sidekick. Calling him homosexual is technically incorrect, since he is not exclusively with men, but I simply wanted to point out that Soldier Boy is technically queer and goes to great lengths to cover it up.
@@PosiTVty. if I remember well gunpowder said to butcher *he never touched me like that* implying that his abuse was similar to noir’s where he would just beat him up in training for his ego but who knows maybe he is bi , he was in the comics at least
@@chriscolombie4135 he was a genuine joke in the comics, this is a pure rework. This is pretty much what twitter thinks Captain America is like
@@asaknight321 I actually like the rework but the boys comics were just straight up bad but with genuinely good ideas and moments and yeah that replacement soldier boi was a pussy in every sense of the term
@@chriscolombie4135 the comics were definitely horrible, glad they turned nothing into something with this show
My problem was I only saw Dean from Supernatural in a costume so thats why I didn't want him to lose
Exactly what I was thinking
Long story short. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. He’s garbage but at least a HINT of sympathy, NOT EMPATHY, just sympathy. Homelander is gonna peak and be crazy and no can stop him. Why not fire a glass canon? At least they know how to stop Soldier Boy if need be. But he also listens to “reason” can be persuaded and even better…looks a good drink. That’s an easy enemy to keep down and out of politics and offing more people with his recklessness
It’s because of his lines. “You know what I do when I’m sad or scared? Fucking nothing because I’m not a fucking pussy”😂
That is the mentality of a soldier tho.
Based mentality. These soyboys would call that toxic
The most character defining moment was when he didn’t switch up despite HL being his son, having his grandson presented to him, but for butcher to be the one who switched up
Lmao stupid take. Butcher didn’t switch, he just didn’t want Ryan to die. SB was gonna kill a kid. Holy shit, the takes in this comment section are horrendous dogshit.
Soldier Boy wasn’t gay💀
Probably Bi.
@@moonknight2865wait why?
OP was either projecting or hoping
Soldier Boy is not gay,the bruh in this video is probably projecting and trying to push a queer agenda in his video
@moonknight2865 What? He isn’t bi. He sleeps with women in the show.
I believe that he is liked because although he is what we with our modern social mores would consider a villain (and I believe that overall, he does qualify as maladjusted), he is also actually what the ancients would consider a hero.
Consider: the Greek tales of Achilles had our 'heroes' trying to sack a city and quarrelling over women like they were literal trophies/spoils of war. The Greek gods themselves were considered 'just' and 'good' even though they did things like bedding married women, forcing themselves on mortals they deemed attractive, and (ab)using their magic on mortals for slights to their egos (Athena turned Arachne into a spider for besting her at a weaving contest, and Hera constantly tormented Hercules and gave him a troubled life just because Zeus happened to father him).
In the East, we have tales of divine caprice creating celestial features (the Cowherd and the Weaver Girl are victims of Heavenly micro-management) and nearly destroying the universe (Kali went on a rampage, nearly destroyed the universe, and her husband let her step on him so she could calm down).
However, to the Ancients, these were actually flaws that were very understandable. What they emphasized was that the gods always kept their promises, made fair judgements (even if there was some collateral damage involved), and were valiant in war.
Soldier boy made a promise, and kept it, even though it was his own son who was the target (and his grandson who was the collateral damage - but that happened because Ryan refused to move out of the way).
Though his teammates despised him and deserved to be rid of him, selling him out to the Soviets (their mortal enemy at that time) was a step too far. Him hunting them down and killing them was not the right thing to do, but also not totally unfair. He might be destructive, but there are also rules to the destruction he inflicts.
He was a bully (which everyone loathes), but there is an element of restraint with him: He wouldn't have gone after Ryan if Ryan hadn't gotten in the way, and despite being rough to Hughie and a huge bully to his own teammates, you notice that he only picks on those he thinks can take it (his teammates are super-powered and more durable than humans).
And finally, his prowess in battle is evident to all.
Based on all this, I would submit that Soldier Boy qualifies as a modern villain, but also as an ancient hero/god. In D&D terms, he would be deemed as being a Lawful Evil character that happens to be on the side of the United States.
The actor is charismatic by nature. Love his character from "Supernatural".
Was hopping for a reunion as many more.
Jensen Ackles is one of the only actors (in my personal opinion) who's performance is so good no matter what role he plays due to the subtle micro expressions and his eyes that are very expressional. It gives so much more depth in his acting. (If you've seen Supernatural you probably know what I mean)
Bro loved them GILFS! What’s not to love?!
The single and only reason I love Soldier Boy: Jensen Ackles.
Jokes aside, this was my first introduction to this actor and my first thought was “that is the manliest looking and sounding man I’ve ever seen”. It’s like impossible not to get jealous as a guy when you see him lol
It was surprising just how quickly how Soldier Boy became one of my favorite characters, thanks in no small part to Jensen, he is just so charismatic.
One issue I did have with the season was at the end of the fight in the finale where they administered the gas to knock him out, where MM douses him in it and calls him a ‘racist’ piece of shit. Honestly, that made me blink because it feels like something that came out of nowhere, and I asked out loud ‘how is he racist?’ Sexiest? For sure. Toxic? Most definitely. But racist? Huh?
I know the obvious point people would bring up is that he killed MM’s family, who were all black, but when confronted with that from MM in Herogasm, Soldier Boy said ‘which one?’ While this could imply that he murdered multiple black families on purpose, I always saw it as he killed so many people and families, not just black, that him saying which one meant that he didn’t bother to care and that many of them may have just been collateral damage, not purposefully and racially done.
If the show was trying to portray him as racist, they probably should have done more to show that before they threw out that line, because all his interactions say otherwise. He beat up Black Noir because Soldier Boy felt that Noir was trying to ‘move on up in the world’ and challenge his popularity, he even says that Axel Foley is funny while Noir isn’t. He was apparently friends with Bill Cosby, and when he saw a gay couple on the streets of New York, he didn’t even look disgusted or anything, just surprised, even befuddled.
Not really trying to defend him, he is still a shit human being, but I feel like the show was trying to depict SB as something he wasn’t or didn’t put in the work enough to show this ‘racist’ side. It could just all be from MM’s perspective but if the show did show more instance of this I would be okay with it, it’s just a weird nitpick that I can’t help but point out and cringe at.
“move up in the world” is actually an archaic term against Black people moving up in the social hierarchy, not popularity. And that liking Foley and Cosby thing means that POC are only good to him if they’re entertaining clowns, for their own enjoyment; if they don’t personally make him happy then they don’t have the right… SB shouldn’t dictate Noir, if he was funny or not was HIS right to pursue, and upto the general public to accept him or not.
This is a case of “tokenism” - Bigots often have a chosen 1 or 2 that they personally approve which they then force as a standard on others. A common case nowadays is for female characters in media - you’ll often see misogynist critics claim they like strong female characters, just “well written” ones: and they’ll give Sarah Conner and Ripley as examples… ONLY those 2. Out of the millions upon millions of media on earth, they choose ONLY those 2 (and another couple more who are identical to them), over and over again. Other people aren’t allowed to accept different characters, JUST those 2 pre-approved ones. This is kinda what’s happening here.
@@LilacSreyaFair enough, I actually didn’t know about the potential, if not implicit, meaning behind those choice of word, and thank you for teaching me something new about that.
You bring up a good point with the type of black people that Soldier Boy is okay with and I can see how that can be evidence of him being slightly racist, if not fully.
I still have some reservations before fully calling SB a racist (or it could be bias on my part because I don’t want to associate a character of Jensen to be racist but whatever). For instance, SB called Cosby ‘America’s Dad’ and seemed to have some respect or fond familiarity toward Cosby with how he talked about him and that’s why I assumed he wasn’t racist or didn’t notice the similar professions of Foley and Cosby.
If what you said is perhaps a subtle intention of the writers that I missed, then again thank you, however I still would have liked to have seen something more explicit of SB being racist rather than just kill MM’s family, because not only is the full backstory of that event or the intent behind SB’s actions still unknown, and likely forever unknown unless we thaw him out and ask him, but as good as saying things implicitly is good sometimes we need more concrete evidence. I’m not advocating for SB to start dropping N-bombs and racial slurs but rather a more ‘show-don’t-tell’ approach like a subtle, but a viewable look of disdain or disgust toward a POC like MM or like with Stormfront by having him attack a POC more violently or with more intent to kill. Him beating up Noir in that ‘move on up’ talk could be evidence of that, but then Noir’s comical remembering of the event also showed SB doing the same with Gunpowder.
Also some people, myself included, can be oblivious idiots that can have something like what you said go right over heads.
@@LilacSreyaHard disagree on the women in lead roles take. Their is absolutely a wide spread trend of female leads being unlikable Mary sues who lack any depth what so ever.
@@LilacSreya thing is MM would have no idea about that interaction he didn't ever talk with anyone who was present for that scene so really he has no reason to believe that Soldier Boy is Racist he knows that him killing his family was due to him being reckless with his powers as opposed to him intentionally deciding to kill a random family because they were black.
it just kinda seems like MM is throwing an insult at someone with no real basis for it given the information he knows it'd make more sense if he said this to Butcher given his prejudice against supes has been a defining part of his character for 3 seasons.
I see it less as racism and more outright douchebaggery. Doesn't make it better, but the whole situation with Noir shows that Ben refuses to shares glory even if Irving's casting attempt was a side gig. Dude was that vain.
I don't think Soldier Boy would've worked 10% as well if it wasn't Jensen freaking Ackles.
Bro called soldier boy a homosexual 😂... we watching the same show?
its reasoned that his negative comments come from many of his own deep seeded issues. a person who is secure in their own sexuality would not feel the need to negatively comment on someone else's preference. it's usually done when you are jealous of what some has and you yourself repressed.
@@GotoMaki4Micah bro soilder boy is not gay at all or bi
@@aswdiaodwi then why did he get sloppy toppy multiple times by forcing gunpowder to do it? and why did gunpowder go to vaught and complain about it on record if he wasnt gay at all? come on bro we clearly not watching the same show or u just in denial like soldier boy is
@@kylemendes7246 gunpowder even when he was being beaten to death by butcher still said "he never touched me like that" I think it was just physical abuse like noir not sexual. People just take what butcher said at face value even though he was trying to anger gunpowder
@@kylemendes7246pay attention to the show
I stopped watching after the phrase "he killed MM's family" - IT WAS AN ACCIDENT
HOOOLY SHIT that's the WHOLE POINT of that happening, we were SUPPOSED to realize he's not a monster by knowing it was an- nah fuck this i'm out
Yeah, some pretty dumb takes in this video. Saying that he "loved killing kids" was just stupid, or the closet gay stuff. I think this guy just really hates how everyone likes Soldier Boy and is trying to show how bad he is and why we shouldn't like him.
An accident that he never owned up too. Still making him a villain. Why is that so fucking hard to understand.
@@moonknight2865 Didn't he have like a whole scene in episode 5 which showed he didn't mean to do it and was remorseful? Maybe I'm remembering wrong but if so that doesn't make him a villain.
6:24 "his homosexuality" What?
him getting sloppy toppy from gunpowder didnt make you think ah this man must be a little gay?
Bro he sexually assaulted gunpowder mad times lmao you think he’s straight?
@@kylemendes7246he didn't gunpowder said it wasn't true while butcher was torturing him
@@kylemendes7246braindead take
Chris Evans Captain America is what America thinks they look like. Jensen Ackles Soldier Boy is what America actually looks like.
Sodierboy is based. I like how he talk.
A major part of it is that he was played by Jenson Ackles. He's just got this charisma that he just brings to every role he plays. Highly underutilized actor.
Jensen Ackles just has a swagger about him that makes him always likable.
Soldier boy is basically dean Winchester dialed to 11 and that's alright because it worked
Originally. They were going to make him just as bad/much worse than Homelander. They were going to make the 'hazing' of Gunpowder and the rest of Payback much worse. But Jensen Ackles had the showrunners change the script because he refused to play a child abuser, being a parent himself.
People don't like Soldier Boy because he is a good person. It's that compared to Homelander he's a much nicer and less evil guy. Homelander is just *that* bad.
No, the scene he didn't want to play was the threesome in 3x07. That's the one where they changed the script for him (which was originally meant for the legend). He has talked about it a few times, at least 3 I can think of. Including during the s3 press tour.
>Make Soldier Boy possibly a great character
>Continually tear him down: "Oh he's not really a hero in world war 2, he didn't do anything"
>Continually tear him down: "Yeah he's just a super degenerate"
>Continually tear him down: "He's also super racist...I guess?(this came out of nowhere as an accusation)"
The Boys just doesn't know what to do with characters. It feels almost cynically representative of Amazon's corporatizing of media to be bland blobs of "current-year" politics.
He did make a "racist" jab at MM when he confronted him on killing his family and he said "Which one?" joking that black guys always have multiple families/baby mamas.
Now, this is something that a lot of the unhinged types (and people at Amazon who push these politics in everything) won't agree with, but I personally don't care in that context that somebody made a slightly racist putdown. This dude just appeared from nowhere and tried to gas him to presumably attempt to kill him or subject him to another 30 years of the torture he's been through, but because he mocks the guy that did it in a way that's slightly racist he's the bad guy? Sage says just as asinine arguably racist shit constantly with no justification like being attacked and in a 1-on-1, and we're expected to cheer for her because she's a black woman doing it to white men. Soldier Boy never showed any other hint of racism, and idolized a black guy (Cosby).
But of course it's corporate woke culture, so anything that could be interpreted as racist in this way is considered to be worse than murder and torture.
People miss one thing about his interest in old women, thinking this is kink which isn't. He's like from 90 to 100 years old. So his love for old women makes sense, since he was frozen in time by compound V or its prototype, everything he knew vanished, world changed since he became Soldier boy, but not him. He stays the way he was in the moment when he was injected by drug, in his 20-30's.
So, this lust for old women is more emotional connection for him, with times his familiar. OK maybe they younger than him on 20-30 years, but they mentally close to him than girls in their 20's of era he awake. For him women in 20's of this time-line he's right now more children than adults or different species, but this as I see. And everyone wants something familiar, or someone who understands you emotionally and mentally. If he weren't Soldier boy it would look like an old man flirting with old women, which makes sence.
We seen something like this with Captain Amarica as he acts, speaks, thinks etc, but without interest in old women. They both became misfits of time that vanished.
People also said right, Soldier boy is historically accurate Captain America, If Steve Rodgers wasn't censored by Marvel he would probably be more attractive emotionally to someone as Peggy Carter. In terms of age when he saw her in Civil War movie or a little bit younger , and yes I think if we had a comic book like this, writers would try to show us it doesn't matter he's from different time and he can fall in love for somebody from time he lives now, but I think for Steve a girl of time he stuck would be probably hard to make bridges since they from different times and mentally different, like a human tries to connect with an alien, but who knows what scriptwriters wound try imagine.
To be fair he didn’t know about the bill cosby grape stuff
Given how much he loves being the center of attention he must have mingled deep enough in the entertainment industry to know about all of its degeneracies behind the curtains, hell he's not even flinched when he saw a homosexual coupe of different races when he returned
The answer is because its Jensen Ackles
he grew up in an abusive home, pre ww2, subjected himself to an experimental serum, served as a sort of spec-ops dude in ww2 and after.
yeah, no shit he's dark and tone-deaf.
the more we learn about him the more tragic he kinda becomes.
plus the actor is really good.
you know about bluetooth? gps?
…..you made those words up 😂
I think he does so well with this part because Dean from supernatural had a similar archetype.
It’s mostly because Jensen Ackles is such a great actor and his charm is just too damn good. Plus having a villain that makes you love him and hate him is hard to do and great in the long run.
Soldier boy is like that old fashion high school bully but will do what he wants to do and stick to it
It confuses me why people call Soldier Boy a "monster" espically within the context of the Boys Universe.
The worst thing he did was accidently kill MM's family while trying to stop a carjacking and not care about it, which isn't a unique mindset to have as a supe. Maybe I forgot about some of the other things he did but it seems like he did pretty negligible stuff.
I mean A-Train ran through Hughies girlfriend lied and laughed about like it was nothing and then he killed Popclaw, somebody he actually loved for Homelander.
6:27 you do realize that not every character who’s a masculine male that appears in media Hass to be a closeted homosexual right they could just be a very overly masculine character who has their demons and given how he treated gunpowder I would say that it was more like how his dad probably would’ve treated him trying to beat the weakness out of him but also making him stronger for it
he was tryna point out the gunpowder assault allegations and stuff but didnt convey it amazingly. still nothing confirmed from that so who knows, but i was thinking what u was thinking too
Things i like about soldierboy, he looks tuff and has an iconic looking outfit, power and shield. he acts tuff and goes ham on anyone he sees both verbally and with asswhooping. AND the most important thing, he still has his weaknesses and bad side like any tough character needs. which im guessing disney is missing cause their recent characters are flawless people. when people arent flawless but still manages to be strong and menacing. thats when you got it right! this goes for so many characters that are well written, vader, thanos, ironman, batman, captain america... uhh i could mention more but you get my point
The actor also did an AMAZING JOB. I mean, Jensen Ackles is just an amazing actor
He's charismatic more pessimistically realistic captain america that people wanted to see for years, and one of few characters to never betray his own morals and agenda, of course everyone loved him.
I love him for his toxic outdated takes. He could say something so out of pocket, but make it funny because of Heuys' reactions. I would love a movie of a character with outdated ideals, time traveling, and dealing with a modern person. Soildier boy and Huey vibes.
I mean he was born in 1919 or 1923 I forgot. I don’t think he is very toxic i think he makes a lot of sense I agree with 5 to 10 percent of what he says. Especially about how he does nothing when he is scared because he isn’t a pussy. He has the soldier mentality.
Solder Boy isn't a villain, he's a jerk. He has collateral damage when he is on a mission, but so do other characters. However, he doesn't really set out to purposely kill innocent people and doesn't view normal humans as inferior. He actually likes to hang around drinking and such with the regulars. When Hughie got in his face and called him out on the war stories being fake, Soldier Boy hit him and walked away but obviously held back. That is unlike Homelander who is racist and views normal people as nothing more than ants which he will step on just for enjoyment.
Jensen Ackles just NAILED this part like the damn professional that he is.
I simply believe it's just Jensen's charisma. Dude is just like JDM's Negan. Absolute monster of a human being but we as viewers just love him.
Jensen Ackles as Soldier Boy is the ONLY reason I even tuned in for Season 3 of The Boys.
Jensen as soldier boy has such a soothing voice saying the weirdest shit.
If they wanted us to hate him, 1) pitting him against Homelander and 2) making him JENSEN ACKLES was a bad idea
i think we all love soldier boy because yeah we hate homelander but also because he has the most potential to be good, like a train or lamp lighter. (but judging on how the show is i dont expect them to be redeemed expect homelander tbh. which lowkey sucks but i guess that is what keeps me interested is seeing what they do)
edit: also how can you hate a man who is hunting down his "friends" who threw him in a RUSSIAN experimental prison
I think a part of it is that he is a soldier, coming from a time of war. Soldiers are expected to be rough, they fight and kill and do that for a cause. He isnt a maniac who kills unexpectedly for childish reasons. Plus we actually see him sit down, talk to people, and those oversized shirts and domestic scenes definitely helped with the perception of him as a person. And most of the stuff that makes him bad in modern standards are just what many people saw as values so we hear those sexist, racist stuff from our grandparents too. He isnt out there torturing people with every interaction, making them suck each other for humiliation or anything.
The reason we love him is because of Jensen Ackles
This man makes me feel more patriotic than Homelander ever could. Solely because he encapsulates all of the WORST traits of the stereotypical US war vet. (In the most hilarious ways possible mind you)
Soldier Boy did nothing wrong
lack of media literacy
@@chrischika7026no
Soldier boy did EVERYTHING WRONG and that's cool.
@@pavlemarjanovic1896 Like what?
@@TheBraddy2610He was a complete pos in the past he killed a bunch of people because of his broken psyche, is partly the reason why the good guys lost in the end of he was more flexible and cries about the approval of his daddy like his son does. Does that cover it for you?
Soldier Boy very much feels like the “Cotton Hill” of The Boys. You usually don’t agree with what he does or says, but you love watching him because he’s so damned entertaining.
Solider boy was the most modern definition of a character your supposed to hate but you root for
Bro gave homelander anxiety just by thinking of him.
The reason Soldier Boy is so awesome is that Jensen is an epic actor.
I think a big contributor was the Herogasm fight. For the first two seasons we saw Homelander bully and abuse and slaughter people around him with complete impunity and smugly flaunting his physical superiority over everyone around him, and for the first time, we finally got to see someone actually, PHYSICALLY do some damage to him. The illusion of invulnerability is finally shattered: we now know that Homelander can be killed.
It's kinda hard to shift fire on Soldier Boy, when The Boys is also mostly comprised of sociopathic spree killers
it's not a very complicated matter. When he said "you just made all those words up" I fell in love and that was it
random blink and you miss nudity at 2:46
I couldn’t believe it when I saw it. She busty af too
I think he realised the errors of his ways especially when he said he was a fucking disappointment and tried to honour his promise to butcher.
What makes sense to me, is that we love him because he's suffered and tortured and still remained a badass. That's what most people want. They have pain and they want to fight it while keeping their strength. Soldier Boy fought everyone in the show to defend himself and his beliefs. Who doesn't love that? Being so determined that no one can stop you. Soldier Boy owns that and that's why we love him.