What happens when I try to upgrade the new HP Prebuilt? - Spoiler alert, it ain't that pretty!

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  • #HP managed to take a crow bar to the knee caps of this poor #prebuilt, so we are trying to find a way to upgrade it anyway, to rather mixed results.
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  • @ThatPaulGuy
    @ThatPaulGuy  3 місяці тому +1

    New follow up on this story incoming - As of May 2024 I am testing graphics cards and hopefully a new bios for this PC - I will post a link here to the new follow up video.

    • @troxeh3283
      @troxeh3283 3 місяці тому +1

      Have a similar prebuilt! If you figured out how to upgrade the gpu, would love to know how!

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 місяці тому

      @@troxeh3283 the rx6400 ends up being a decent choice and I hope to test the rtx 3050 soon, but the Intel Arc A380 was a bust. The bios doesn't recognize the card and there is no setting in the bios to allow the 4600g to use its graphics if there is a graphics card plugged into the PCIe slot.
      If you upgrade the power supply, a gtx 1660 does a great job.

  • @javiersilva2884
    @javiersilva2884 3 роки тому +8

    Regarding the BIOS, these systems are for the non-enthusiast, students, or grandmas who are never going to open the case or access the BIOS. Same comment for the upgradeability and components of the system. Simple systems for simple users.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +2

      True, but during a difficult time trying to find hardware you will also have the curious and desperate. You will also have those that think they can buy this system and do more than this PC will allow.

    • @vomytdaug
      @vomytdaug 2 роки тому

      I tend to think if they just upped the power supply to maybe 280 watts and offered leads for a real video card it wouldn’t be bad. That being said I have the Ryzen 3 version it’s good for the price.

  • @paulcherrytrains3339
    @paulcherrytrains3339 2 роки тому +3

    Good review. I agree this is a computer for those who aren't too interested in upgrading. I bought a similar one which has the i5 processor. I an happy with mine as basically I just wanted a computer I could just switch on and use. I am not a gamer. I saw many like this in an office setting where the users would have them for office tasks. I have kept my 10 year old self built computer as it can be upgraded if desired.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you. I was actually able to do a few upgrades like the memory and a better power supply that could support a video card, but its a very good pc for general use and light PC Gaming. It was fun to play around with it.

  • @FrenziedManbeast
    @FrenziedManbeast Рік тому +1

    I just got one of these off eBay for under $200 because I needed something turnkey with at least SOME PCIe availability. It was an i3-12100 variant with 8GB DDR4 and 256GB KIOXIA NVMe. These things are truly birthed from the deepest bowels of corporate hell. But I put TrueNAS Scale on it to have something to learn ZFS, etc. on - it's working fine so far connecting to an external USB JBOD, but I'm already seeing as soon as anything other than CPU/RAM/SSD fails this entire unit is eWaste. Thanks for the video!

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      Yeah, these PCs definitely seem to be intended for web browsing, checking email, and not much else. Upgrades aren't much of an option.

  • @DomVito87
    @DomVito87 Рік тому +2

    Bought mine from best buy for 200 with the Ryzen 5 5600g. Upgraded the power supply with an after market . Installed a gtx 1650. Not too bad tbh. Can game decently. Put in 16gb of ram also.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      That is a STEAL! And you've got a solid gamer. Love hearing things like that!

    • @Hezuuuuu
      @Hezuuuuu 9 місяців тому

      im gonna do the same, but u got the 1650 lp right? and if yh could u tell me where u got it

    • @Hezuuuuu
      @Hezuuuuu 9 місяців тому

      and did u change the psu? thanks if u answer

  • @dragonslayer8724
    @dragonslayer8724 3 роки тому +3

    Just bought my first hp pre built that's a TE01-1050 (i7-10700 cpu, rtx 2060 gpu) don't have a reason yet to look into upgrading it but hopefully it's upgrade friendly.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      Its a solid CPU/GPU combination and Intel is not nearly as finicky as AMD when it comes to memory speed. That configuration should do you pretty well for quite a while.

  • @johndoherty5790
    @johndoherty5790 Рік тому +1

    Well I have the Same set up from the older HP thats lasted over 12 years ...MY Quad ...to the New Ryzen 5 and ot looking good on it so far for any upgrade!!! HOPE you find someting to work out!!! Watching more vids lol Thanks

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      Ended up doing a few things to improve it overall, ands been a pretty solid PC for what it is. I love the older prebuilts because all of the parts were pretty standard from reputable companies.
      Thank you for the comments and the views. Enjoy!

    • @johndoherty5790
      @johndoherty5790 Рік тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy yes just got done watching the rest of the clips and gong to do some memory and I will be good for what I do. Yes still have old prebuilt ..not gong anywhere lol Thanks

  • @USAF_Medic
    @USAF_Medic 4 місяці тому +1

    My 2 biggest disappointments with my Tg02-1032 are the lack of 10 gig USB-C ports, the one on the front of the case, under the 10 10Gig USB-A ports, is only 5 gigs. The second is the lack of options for upgrade and expansion. I would not buy it again.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  4 місяці тому

      There is definitely a huge opportunity missed by not allowing some upgrades to these PCs. Almost every single component has upgrade issues, so disappointing.

  • @ChfHappySack
    @ChfHappySack Рік тому +2

    Some newer dell prebuilts have a bios in place where, if you try to uninstall the pre-installed bloatware in windows, the bios has microcode that automatically reinstalls it if it doesn't detect it within windows lmao. It's basically the equivilant of venereal disease but for computers 😂😂😂

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      Its sort of the way that McAfee somehow finds its way back onto your system after its uninstalled. And companies wonder why we dont trust them. Lol

  • @Savage1776_
    @Savage1776_ Рік тому +1

    So my comment might be rather long. A year ago I bought the HP Envy 32 gigs of RAM, 1 TB ssd, 2 TB HDD and it was supposed to have the 1060 in it. After about a year of using Lightroom and Photoshop and banging my head against the table I got frustrated at the 1060 and one of the upgrade. It was at this point I found out that I had the integrated GPU 630. So out of frustration I talked to my buddy at the computer store next to where I work and he told me to get a rtx3050 and we should be able to slap that right in without issue. I even watched a UA-cam video where a guy takes these exact HP models and turns them in the gaming computers. But lo and behold my motherboard won't allow it and then there was the power supply issue. Because I spent $1,100 on this machine and have had it less than a year. I knew if I sold it I would lose a lot of money. So at the moment a buddy of mine has 2,400 in a machine that he sold to me with almost identical specs except it has the 3070 GPU and of course a cooling system and a nice box. Now that I got myself situated I'm trying to figure out what to do with this. So as I was looking at different power supplies like you stated you would have to change out the motherboard. I found an HP power supply looking on eBay and they're usually about $140 to $180. But I got lucky and found one with what looks like identical ports and an included six pin at 400 watts! And it was only $15 so I went ahead and purchased it. It should be delivered in the next 2 days and I'm going to try to swipe out the power support and do a 6 to 8 Pin adapter. From my understanding two of the pins are grounds anyways. So I'll have to wait and see. But I'm pretty sure that if you look on eBay you might be able to find a power supply for this. But in the end if you were to spend $1,100 for my machine and then another $350 for a GPU and then another say $150 for a power supply you're just getting in numbers that don't make sense. That's why I decided to try to find a power source for cheap that would work in my situation due to the fact that HP only uses in-house parts. I don't know but I'll keep you posted. I actually have a UA-cam channel that I just started but I'm trying to put out five videos at once. And this computer will be one of them I'll give you an update and post a video about this. My channel would have already been out but because of my computer issues with just Photoshop and Lightroom with my HP it held me up from finalizing all my edits as well. But thank you so much for the upload I really enjoyed your content and your video

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      You've been through quite a bit with that machine. Wow. I ended up swapping in a 400w Power supply and more memory and at one time was testing it with a gtx 1650 Super. Its a shame that HP limits these PCs so much, there is a lot of potential left on the table and its frustrating not being able to upgrade them. I look forward to see how this turns out for you.

    • @thibautdagbert6907
      @thibautdagbert6907 Місяць тому

      Hello, I know that the video is old, but I don't really know what component to put to improve my PC, same model. I would like to be able to add a graphics card, and also a new power supply because 180W... But I can't find any reference. Please if someone can help me

  • @10mbc
    @10mbc 3 роки тому +3

    The memory situation is not HPs fault, is memory's fault. The issue here is as follows: that particular Gskill memory set has a JEDEC spec of 2133 and it is overclockable to 3200 or 3000 or whatever. Problem is that this HP does not have OC. What do you need to do? Buy some JEDEC 3200 Mhz memory kit. Crucial is one of them that have such thing. This is the exact situation as on normal (non gaming) laptops.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      While that is a valid solution, and I have done that to a small resulting increase in performance. HP makes the Bios for their proprietary motherboard. There are no adjustments that can be made for performance, and they are the same entity that ships with one 8gb and one 4gb stick. There are some better choices they could have made.
      I was able to find an 8gb stick of the same type of ram to match them up.

    • @10mbc
      @10mbc 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy it is an office system, not a gaming system. Lenovo is the same, Dell is the same.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      @@10mbc that's part of the point. People can't get graphics cards and their beginning to look at other alternatives like older systems and office machines. Its a perfectly good computer, very light weight and comes with very little bloatware, but there are drawbacks. It offers a pci-e 16x slot traditionally for a GPU but the power supply wont handle it, and the there is not a lot people can do if they are looking to try to buy an inexpensive system like this and convert it to something more powerful. HP put a very good processor in the package with, unfortunately, no real way to take advantage of it.

    • @unknown-jd2tr
      @unknown-jd2tr Рік тому

      i got new ram and i cant change the frequency its stuck at 2133mhz when it should be at 3200mhz ima try what u jus said

    • @insane8103
      @insane8103 Рік тому

      I just use amd ryzen master to raise my ram clock speeds from standard 2999 to 3200 and it works perfectly fine, the change stays too...

  • @modrribaz1691
    @modrribaz1691 2 роки тому +2

    The hardest part to upgrade is hands down the psu, their new design is a legit nightmare.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      Absolutely! Whether it was to save a buck, or to just make things proprietary, its a huge pain!

    • @DomVito87
      @DomVito87 Рік тому

      It is , however I found a psu that's aftermarket that is 400 watts and will work fully with that unit.

    • @modrribaz1691
      @modrribaz1691 Рік тому

      @@DomVito87 I found a 450w one online too, but it was prohibited where I am, so I ended up reverse engineering everything and hooked up a standard 850w one to it. Works fine, the quirk with mine was how to bypass the vestigial sideband signal of ATX.

  • @johnski4709
    @johnski4709 3 роки тому +2

    I always thought they made these pre-builds with the bits sodered in place, lol.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      They would have been just as well off doing it like that.

  • @Capt329
    @Capt329 3 роки тому +2

    FANTASTIC content!! keep it up! I have the same computer but with an I3 10th gen (m01-f1033wb) same case. Would it be possible to replace the processor for like an i5 or an i7 10th gen or would I need a new motherboard for that? Im not against getting a new motherboard but im curious to see if its doable with the original one. Also is there a motherboard you could recommend that would fit in the space in the original case or perhaps a way for me to know the size I should be looking for if I wanna keep this case since I personally like it. Thank you for the content I subscribed keep it coming! (I also already purchased a 600 watt power supply and 8Gb of ram im adding to it)

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the feedback. I'll do my best to keep bringing good content. According to HP you should be able to put a 10400 or possibly a 10700 in it without a problem. As far as the motherboard, it has a weird shape the extends to the front input/output and the rear I/O which makes it difficult to either take that motherboard out to fit in another case or swap in another motherboard. The power supply is also proprietary so you may have to be creative.
      I am considering swapping out some things inside that case and modifying it to still use the front I/O but thats still a few projects away for me.
      Keep me posted on how your progress is going. I'll be interested to see how things are working out.

    • @Capt329
      @Capt329 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy dude u answered everything I needed! Thanks so much. So far I added 8GB of ram and ordered a gtx 1060 (The one with the GDDR5). And got a 600 watt EVGA power supply to power the rig and thanks I’ll follow up with how it’s running but after that I’m gonna look at an i7. Thanks so much man!

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      @@Capt329 Especially let me know about fitting the power supply. The one in the prebuilt is an odd size and the connectors are proprietary, ( I have seen adapters on eBay but haven't tried to get one yet). Glad I was able to help with your questions.

    • @deakksyy
      @deakksyy 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy Paul, is there a way I could swap the motherboard out. I'm using a HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-2225xt and I found out on the support page the motherboard is called Stark. It looks mATX but I'm not sure. I really want to swap out the motherboard with one from Asus, etc because I want to have a usable BIOS. Thanks

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      @@deakksyy Unfortunately, I dont think so without some extreme custom work in order to keep functionality of the front panel input/output. The motherboard that comes in it stretches to both the back panel and front.

  • @spoonshanker1582
    @spoonshanker1582 2 роки тому +2

    I'm planning on getting this computer for my mom for her school work, I was wondering if it's possible to add a second 1 or 2 TB ssd to it. Is there another sata connection? And is the power supply enough for another ssd? I know you said the psu is limited. Btw I'm enjoying the content so far!

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words. In most cases you won't have any issue adding an additional SSD. The unit I got had a spare connector for power and there is additional SATA on the Motherboard for another drive. Power draw will be minimal so it shouldn't present an issue at all.

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden Рік тому +2

    I noticed you can get a Lenovo prebuilt with the same specs for a few hundred less. I wonder what it's BIOS/upgradability is like compared to HP.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      I would guess that the ones that are less expensive also come with fewer features and will be harder to upgrade. Many times the price is able to be discounted due to simplifying the whole process, but I'd be curious to see. It' s also possible now, to build a PC with slightly better specs cheaper than this one was when it came out.

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden Рік тому +2

      @@ThatPaulGuy Looking at the limitations of these prebuilt systems, I'm leaning towards building my own mini ITX computer with a nice 13th gen Intel i7 at its heart!

  • @25condiscount70
    @25condiscount70 11 місяців тому +1

    Sucks that the PSU can't be changed, especially cuz I have a worse variant with a Intel Pentium gold CPU. A new CPU and GPU is basically required if I want to play almost any game, so it sucks that there isn't much room to make it better

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  11 місяців тому

      The worst part is when I first bought it, HP claimed it was able to be upgraded......... yeah, not a lot of upgrade options for yhese models.

    • @25condiscount70
      @25condiscount70 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy Yeah. I don't really need a whole new computer either, a few small upgrades would definitely suffice, but the lack of upgrade options really cuts down on what I might be able to upgrade it with.

  • @barrettgaming2820
    @barrettgaming2820 8 місяців тому +1

    Like one of the people on these comments said you can upgrade the power supply in the computer. But I have found that you can upgrade it from the 180 watt to 310 watts for the exact same size as the original and the same brand from hp. And while you think 310 watts is not much more than the 180 it can power most mid tier cards. The difference from the 180w psu and the 310w is the original one has 2 four pins and 1 seven pin but the 310w one has the same 2 four pins a seven pin and adds a 6pin so that you can plug in a gpu.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  8 місяців тому

      I ended up finding a 400w PSU for about 65USD, upgrading it a bit, and selling it to a friend who streams XBOX games. Worked out perfect.

    • @318Deepsouth
      @318Deepsouth 7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for this video Do you know where i can find that 400w PSU?
      @@ThatPaulGuy

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  7 місяців тому +1

      @@318Deepsouth most likely on eBay for a decent price. I have seen them on Amazon but for about 40USD more. I have the part number listed in either this videos description or the follow up video, but I think it was L04618-800 that I ordered.

    • @318Deepsouth
      @318Deepsouth 7 місяців тому +1

      Thx Im looking into doing a case swap and adding a RX580@@ThatPaulGuy

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  7 місяців тому +1

      @@318Deepsouth keep in mind, the front USB ports are on the motherboard on this design, making it a bit more challenging to swap cases. You may have to find a large enough case and an expansion card or adapter to help provide the USB on the front of the case.

  • @kealanholmes191
    @kealanholmes191 2 роки тому +2

    Hey I just got this desktop and wanted to add a gtx 1650, but I also wanted to upgrade my psu. What psu would you recommend ?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      There is a comment from Brandon Bridges below that gives a model number for a replacement PSU. Its the same model I ordered when I ended up testing this PC further. Its worked out pretty well. If you're getting a non-super model of the 1650 you might be able to get by without it because of the low power CPU.

  • @Icerackett
    @Icerackett Рік тому

    HOT
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  • @Tacogatonacho
    @Tacogatonacho 4 місяці тому +1

    I only put 36gb of ram in my hp M01 F0134 and I’m trying to see if I can put a better gpu in

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  4 місяці тому +1

      There are much better options available for this now than there used to be. The RX6400, Arc A380 and RTX 3050 6gb are probably all decent options for this in 2024.

  • @JesusGonzalez-ft7ec
    @JesusGonzalez-ft7ec Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video man, this is finally what I was looking for. I have this exact PC for my work office and I've recently upgraded the stock RAM to 32gb (overkill, I know), and the 256gb stock SSD to a 1TB one. I'm looking into now upgrading the GPU and I know that would require a PSU upgrade as you mentioned is a pain in the ass, but can it be done?? I am looking at the AMD Radeon RX 580 GTS GPU and a standard ATX 800w PSU, by what I've been reading online for the dimensions on those products, it would seem that I would have enough physical clearance but I'm just not sure.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      The problem with putting a standard PSU is the shape and the proprietary connectors. There is an HP 400w that's compatible that I ended up putting in it.

    • @JesusGonzalez-ft7ec
      @JesusGonzalez-ft7ec Рік тому

      @@ThatPaulGuy Would a 400W be sufficient to sustain the Radeon GPU I mentioned? Also, would you be able to provide me with the part number of that HP PSU? I’d appreciate it!

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      @@JesusGonzalez-ft7ec the RX580 will pull a bit over 200w so you should be okay, *note - thats a should be, not a guarantee of any sort- The power supply is an HP 942332-01. They vary in price due to availabilty and where you can find it, but I paid around 65-70 USD, I think.

    • @JesusGonzalez-ft7ec
      @JesusGonzalez-ft7ec Рік тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy I really appreciate it man!

  • @uglyfrommyoung1603
    @uglyfrommyoung1603 2 роки тому +1

    Can I put this video card in here > GeForce GTX 1650 D6 VENTUS XS OC *GDDR6*
    If not, which one should I use?
    (with a power supply of 450w)

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      The card should fit physically, I have been able to fit a 1650 Super and a 1660, but you may have to move things around a little to make sure you have clearance. There is no 6 pin power on that card, so the power requirements should be good as well. The recommended power supply is 300w, so 450 should be fine if you already have one in the system or one that will fit. HP uses a proprietary power connector on the motherboard.

    • @uglyfrommyoung1603
      @uglyfrommyoung1603 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy And one more thing I would like to ask if this Cooler Master MWE 450 Bronze V2 power supply will fit.
      If not, what else should I buy to make it work well, maybe a new motherboard ?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      @Kolos Tita the problem with trying to replace the motherboard is that it an odd shape that streches from the back input/output to the front USB and has a bit of an odd shape. The PSU is also an odd shape, a 400w replacement for it is part number 942332-01 and I have seen it listed between 70-100 USD. I have another video that gives a rundown of some of this ua-cam.com/video/NdvRZg32TJY/v-deo.html

    • @uglyfrommyoung1603
      @uglyfrommyoung1603 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy Thank you very much for your help I appreciate it )

  • @thibautdagbert6907
    @thibautdagbert6907 Місяць тому +1

    Hello, I know that the video is old, but I don't really know what component to put to improve my PC, same model. I would like to be able to add a graphics card, and also a new power supply because 180W... But I can't find any reference. Please if someone can help me

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Місяць тому +1

      The power supply can be upgraded with a 400w and I found one compatible with model number 942332-001 on Amazon. You can also upgrade the graphics with something like an RX 6400, but I would upgrade the power supply first and try something like a gtx1660. Smaller graphics cards are better here because they will fit in the case and not use a lot of power.

    • @thibautdagbert6907
      @thibautdagbert6907 Місяць тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy Thank you very much for your answers, but the price of the graphics cards offered is not really within my means. What do you think of the MSI GT 710 graphics cards? Could it be compatible?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Місяць тому

      It would be compatible, but I think you would find that the graphics on the CPU are much better than the 710.

  • @agdgdgwngo
    @agdgdgwngo Рік тому +1

    Uhhhh 180w PSU wtf I didn't know they made them that small. Tbh I avoid prebuilds like the plague, a lot of them aren't really PCs in the sense that they don't use standard parts. I believe a custom is usually a better choice in the long run, unless you want a laptop.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      You definitely have to be very picky with off the shelf prebuilts. The parts often work fine with eacher, but not with upgrades ( even though manyvsay you can upgrade).

  • @FartButt518
    @FartButt518 6 місяців тому

    this is literally the reason why i bout a hp pavilion p7-1154

  • @agentgroovington9700
    @agentgroovington9700 2 роки тому +1

    I will be putting the Steam Deck OS on my 4600g.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      That will be interesting to see how it works out. The 4600g ended up being a good CPU and quite capable.

  • @danielspahn3891
    @danielspahn3891 Рік тому +1

    Hey man, saw that you've responded to a couple other comments recently so thought i'd take a punt at asking you. I've got this model and i was wondering if it would be possible to take the parts out and put them on a new motherboard and case. Do you think this would be worth kt with the chance to change the psu and add a graphics card in the future?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      The memory, storage drive and CPU will all work with a new MoBo and case. I found when I tested the 4600g outside on another Motherboard, I actually got about 10% better performance.

    • @danielspahn3891
      @danielspahn3891 Рік тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy i'm not too clued up on computer stuff. But will a new motherboard also bypass the issue with the bios not allowing for overclocking different ram? Thanks a lot for your help

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      @@danielspahn3891 the new motherboard will have a different bios, and it should be much easier to change settings.

  • @arc1x
    @arc1x Рік тому +1

    Have you tried using amd ryzen master to run the ram at its rated speed? I was able to get the stock ram (which was running at 2933mhz) to run at its rated speed of 3200mhz

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      I didn't at the time, and have since sold the PC, so I am not sure if it would have worked or not unfortunately

  • @kgonepostl
    @kgonepostl Рік тому

    You need ram with a proper jedec profile. It'll default to the highest speed. Not ideal, but that's your option.

  • @CitrusGuy
    @CitrusGuy 8 місяців тому +1

    i have this one it was a gift from a friend so its not able to be upgraded so im better off just building a brand new 1 right

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  8 місяців тому

      It depends what you want to use it for. You can put a graphics card like an RX560 or GTX1650 that dont need external power and play some games. The friend I sold mine to, uses it to stream Xbox games. Another option is use the CPU and memory for your next build.

  • @ivanguadalupe9855
    @ivanguadalupe9855 3 роки тому +3

    Gracias por la información estaba a punto de comprar ese mismo prebild y instalarle mi gtx 1650 oc that runs without pci expres external power

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +3

      La GTX 1650 tiene una potencia de 75 vatios, por lo que debería funcionar bastante bien. Tendrás que hacerme saber cómo te fue, por favor y gracias.

  • @piaholkko7364
    @piaholkko7364 3 роки тому +1

    Will be switching my ryzen 5 4600g and gtx 1650 super to a new case next week. New psu and 16gb's ram aswell. Will be easier to upgrade in the future then

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      Don't forget the NVMe drive. I'm pretty much doing the same thing, although I have also been playing around with the 4350G that I have to see if performance is comparable.

    • @piaholkko7364
      @piaholkko7364 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy thanks for reminding hehe. Yeah i will quick format that nvme and take it from my hp to a new case with fresh install of windows. First time bought a silentiumpc case looks pretty cool.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      @Pia Holkko good to hear. Keep me updated. You can also join our discord server and post pics if you like when you get done and want to show it off. Definitely have forgotten an NVMe in the board before then went looking all over for it. Lol

    • @piaholkko7364
      @piaholkko7364 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy Haha. But yes i will post info after im done. I will order mobo, cooler on monday

    • @kealanholmes191
      @kealanholmes191 2 роки тому

      Hey I was thinking of doing the same thing could you share what psu you used?

  • @tre-ou5gt
    @tre-ou5gt Рік тому +1

    Wondering if I can just put in a 6400 without an issue? Mine has the 3400g, but not sure if that card would even be worth it. Not sure what to do with this pc..

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      An RX6400 actually wouldn't be a bad option. Its a single slot, low power GPU that doesn't need external power. I would have tested that card in this set up had it been released, but I've since sold to PC to a friend.

  • @snick3639
    @snick3639 2 роки тому +1

    Hi, I really dont know a lot about PC upgrades and memory, I have hp with ryzen 4600g and 3200 1.2v sticks in my hp prebuilt, is 1.35v sticks okay to put in an hp prebuilt? I'm guessing theres no option to change the voltage in the bios, and im ignorant about this stuff. Can I replace 1.2v sticks with 1.35v in these hp prebuilts? I have an hp tp01 model (its the silver ones they sell in stores next to your black one)

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      You can put 1.35v sticks in, but doing so will most likely have your memory run at the base clock speed (2400, 2600, etc.) because there is no adjustment in the bios to overclock the RAM. I ended up having to find a stick of Kingston value RAM with a JEDEC setting of 3200 to match what was in the PC and it worked well. The stock keeps changing on them but you should be able to find some for about $40-45 a stick, (yes, they're more expensive than 1.35v). Your system should work with 1.35v but it will run at a lower clock speed.

    • @snick3639
      @snick3639 2 роки тому

      @@ThatPaulGuy I'm running dual channel 16gb at 3200 speed right now, at 22 CAS latency, I don't think it's worth 70 dollars to go from 22 to 16 CAS latency, would you agree?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      @@snick3639 I agree, you'll get good performance from what you have already and you wouldn't notice much of any difference switching memory to faster timings.

    • @snick3639
      @snick3639 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy fast response Paul, thanks for that. I'm gaming on the 4600g, mostly resident evil games like re4, waiting for the re4 fan remaster

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      @@snick3639 absolutely, glad to help. Although the model I had did particularly excel in any one thing, it was a solid PC and I'm glad I bought it. Hope yours is working well for you.

  • @God_Loves_You07
    @God_Loves_You07 Рік тому +1

    Can i case swap a Hp ryzen 3 desktop and max it out? (Model number: M01-F0033W), or am I better off buying a office computer case swapping and maxing out that for a gaming computer ?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      The problem Is the motherboard and the input/output being a direct fit in both the front and the back like they are fitted for that particular case. If you're doing any swapping, I'd recommend a different PC.

    • @God_Loves_You07
      @God_Loves_You07 Рік тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy thank you 💯💯

  • @unknown3201
    @unknown3201 3 роки тому +1

    is it possible for me to take out the cpu for possible upgrades in the future?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      It is. I have taken the CPU out to test in another system, and I've also swapped in another CPU, the Ryzen3 4350G to test that with this system.

  • @carlosaparicio2213
    @carlosaparicio2213 3 роки тому +1

    Does any Ram fit into the computer? I plan on upgrading the ram but don’t know enough about it

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +2

      If you decide to upgrade, you will have to take one stick out, (I recommend taking the 4GB sick out), and getting matching RAM.
      The one I got I believe was Kingston value RAM from NewEgg for about $50. You do want to make sure it os JEDEC memory at 3200Mhz. It might not specifically say JEDEC but it should say something about being 3200MHz and be something like CL22 timings.

    • @carlosaparicio2213
      @carlosaparicio2213 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy struggling to find it but thanks for the tip

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      The RAM I purchase can be searched for using 'Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR4 SDRAM Memory Module KVR32N22S68' . I found mine on NewEgg but I'm sure it can be found on sites like eBay, etc.

    • @MH55553
      @MH55553 3 роки тому

      @@ThatPaulGuy Thank you for all the information. Just purchased this exact HP model. For all-in-one use and not really for gaming. Looking to upgrade the RAM to a Crucial 8GB DDR4-3200 UDIMM stick. Fits everything you mentioned. Looking forward to more videos so I can upgrade alongside or at least try to ha.

  • @Mik_Aerospace
    @Mik_Aerospace 2 роки тому +1

    Could I transfer components to a new case upgrade memory and power source as well as slap in a 3050?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      The components, yes. The motherboard, no.
      The motherboard is proprietary and stretches from the rear input/output to the front. The drives, memory, and CPU will all work with a different motherboard and PSU combo, though.

    • @Mik_Aerospace
      @Mik_Aerospace 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy that’s a bummer is there any other decent graphics cards that worl

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      @@Mik_Aerospace for building in that case without changing out the Power Supply you will need to go with one that does not require external power like a GTX1050 or 1650 from Nvidia or an RX560 from AMD.

  • @ctyvxletz3502
    @ctyvxletz3502 Рік тому +1

    Hey So i want to put a gtx 1650 in do u think i could?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      You should be able to put a low power GPU, but anything with external power would need a bigger power supply.

    • @ctyvxletz3502
      @ctyvxletz3502 Рік тому

      @@ThatPaulGuy Please can u list me some low power gpus with no external power

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому

      @@ctyvxletz3502 GTX1050, GTX1650, AMD RX 560, or RX 6400 are a few.

    • @ctyvxletz3502
      @ctyvxletz3502 Рік тому

      @@ThatPaulGuy thanks but the processer uses about 70w so if i got one of those that's more power plus the fans and everything else do u think I would have enough power for all of that

  • @universalunivers9195
    @universalunivers9195 Рік тому +1

    If i put M2 ssd Kingston 500gb pci gen4 will work properly?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      It should work, but that processor only handles PCIe 3.0, so you won't get the maximum speed for read/writes.

  • @NN-tk7uw
    @NN-tk7uw 2 роки тому +1

    I don't get HP's obsession with 12GB RAM.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      Nor do I. It was very weird getting a system with one 8 and one 4.

  • @erikescamilla5701
    @erikescamilla5701 3 роки тому +1

    Well, the answer is, don't buy a cheap pre build PC if you want to made a upgrade.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      That is a great solution is you have a healthy bank account. Others may not have the same luxury.

  • @gabriellunsford145
    @gabriellunsford145 Рік тому +1

    Sadly I bought the exact computer without doing much research about it (about a year ago) do you have any recommendations on how to get a GPU anyway since I can't bear 30 fps from only Minecraft.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      Something like an AMD RX6400 might work for what you need. Its a single slot low power card that doesnt need external power. It's not going to turn it into a full blown gaming PC but it should help and they are running about 150 USD currently on sites like Amazon.

    • @gabriellunsford145
      @gabriellunsford145 Рік тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy thanks Paul I'll look into it

    • @gabriellunsford145
      @gabriellunsford145 Рік тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy I've been looking into it seems it would work great but I can't find anything about it for the oculus quest link services is the GPU compatible for the service?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  Рік тому +1

      @@gabriellunsford145 the RX6400 doesn't have an encoder built in (or a USB type Cconnector), so the VR set up would be using the CPU for the encoding. I've seen reports on reddit, etc that say it works, but I have no idea how the performance would be.

    • @gabriellunsford145
      @gabriellunsford145 Рік тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy hi again Paul. I don't really need to say this since it's been a few days but uh I decided to go with a Nvidia Gtx 1650 since it's fits the bill for what I need, VR ready, better fps (then integrated), and most importantly doesn't need a external power source to run. Thanks for all the help you gave. bye!

  • @AznJungleFever
    @AznJungleFever 3 роки тому +1

    Before I watch this I bet the bios in the hp pavilion gonna be locked lol oof

    • @AznJungleFever
      @AznJungleFever 3 роки тому

      12gb ram is not bad for now lol 😆😂 they gotta do chores for that ram sticks upgrades lol

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      Most definitely is.

  • @brisdadmatt11
    @brisdadmatt11 3 роки тому +1

    I'm stuck at 512mb of Vram is there any way to get more because the bios is useless. I know ryzen can go up higher in vram??

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      Unfortunately, I am stuck at the same. Ryzen APUs are supposed to automatically 'borrow' VRAM from the physical system memory, but nothing I've tried so far has given me any indication that its actually doing that. When I tested the 4350G on an ASUS mobo I was able to adjust the default available to borrow and a few benchmarks reflected that, but I've got no idea how to do it or check it on the HP yet.

    • @brisdadmatt11
      @brisdadmatt11 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy Goes back to having crappy Bios system. This is crazy that HP would do something like this. The APU is only running at 20% with this limitation. And the 180 watt PSU is a joke what kind of GPU can run in this system like this. I feel like HP robbed me of my money on this deal.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому

      @@brisdadmatt11 same here in many respects, but I'll still be trying to find ways to improve it. The 5600g is a very solid processor, there has to be some way to get it to be able run to its full potential.

    • @brisdadmatt11
      @brisdadmatt11 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThatPaulGuy ikr I'm almost thinking of buying a b450 Motherboard and a micro ATX case and slap the APU in that.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      @@brisdadmatt11 one of the upcoming videos will have the 5600g testing on an ASUS X470 to try to get some real benchmarks.

  • @tailguner4951
    @tailguner4951 3 роки тому +1

    Esta PC me puede servir para emular juegos de Nintendo 64 , PS2, Wii, juegos relativamente no tan pesados. La verdad no se nada de PC solo vi que era un Ryzen y me interesó por la oferta que tenía. Gracias

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      Me ha impresionado todo lo que puede hacer. Me alegro de que también sea un gran emulador. Gracias

  • @topisalonen8813
    @topisalonen8813 3 роки тому +1

    Are you planning on switching case and psu and putting gpu in?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  3 роки тому +1

      I have an X570 motherboard that has a 3600x that I will eventually swap in the CPU for testing and comparing, but not sure what Im going to do with the whole system yet.

    • @topisalonen8813
      @topisalonen8813 3 роки тому

      @@ThatPaulGuy Nice. I will buy a new case soon and some 500-600w psu and 16gb ddr4 3200mhZ ram, and switch my ryzen and gtx 1650 super to the new case for future upgrading. maybe buying some b450 mobo.

    • @topisalonen8813
      @topisalonen8813 3 роки тому +1

      I bought my hp for 430€ it had been used a week

  • @s4-yt
    @s4-yt 3 роки тому +1

    I am your 1000th viewer man!

  • @DeepDiveDiver
    @DeepDiveDiver 2 роки тому +1

    Do you cant put a Gpu in it?

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      Yo can put a low power GPU like an RTX1050 or an RX560 but too much older and the graphics on the CPU will be better than the graphics from a discreet GPU, and it does not have a power supply or connections for something more powerful. There are videos where I do make some upgrades, though.

  • @WatchTvNotJz
    @WatchTvNotJz 2 роки тому +1

    Wow so I bought a dud

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      Not necessarily, I was able to eventually have 16gb of memory and at one point proved you can put a low power GPU in it to make a pretty decent mid level gaming PC. The 4600g that is in it is a great CPU and can be used in a different build with great results. There are a few follow up videos on this prebuilt where I'm able to make some pretty big changes.

  • @Gljin40509
    @Gljin40509 2 роки тому +1

    So tired of these youtubers criticizing HP for a computer that is designed for a certain demographic and pissing on it because it`s not "upgradable" to a gaming machine...PC gaming is the most obscene waste of time ever thought of...especially for a grown man.

    • @ThatPaulGuy
      @ThatPaulGuy  2 роки тому

      Opinions vary. The point is, a wide variety of people are going to buy a machine like this because it's relatively inexpensive. Many of those people, not just grown men, will try to find a way to play games on it. Companies like HP tend to go halfway to making what could be a great product, then leave out key parts. Inevitably owners of mahines like this will try to find tips to improve it. I don't have anything against HP, Dell, or any company, I just sometimes disagree with design choices.

    • @manleyfgc7981
      @manleyfgc7981 7 днів тому

      Nice troll comment