I was shocked when i saw you only had less than 2k subscribers. Enjoyed every bit of this video (and your other videos). You just gained another subscriber! Keep it going!
2:05 "only 700 horsepower" 1: the engine itself is now 22 years old. 2: the car weighs in the ranges of 2,900lbs to 2,300lbs. need i say more? just power doesnt determine a vehicles acceleration. weight plays a big part too.
Yes but its still not close to the other cars in its price range, if we are taliking acceleration a audi r8 will beat it and the Max speed of 380 kph (~237mph) is just to high to drive anywere even on the Autobahn. So i think it is ok to say its more of a art piece than a high Performance car. + A at the time of release 14 year old engine? For a „Hypercar“??
Unlucky when it comes to the mustang :(( My friend recently crashed the 944 because of bad weather, winter tires and lift off oversteer. We are currently fixing the damage and basically doing all the seals and gaskets of the engine :) glad it didn't hit the timing belt during the crash since it's an interference engine
@@FancyBrent damnnnnnn, when my dad was my age he had an rx7, one time my grandma drove it and forgot to pull the e brake, shit rolled downhill and up a tree😬😬😬😬
The Pagani Hyuara is a purist car, it's a manual because anything else wouldn't be authentic, it is art and feel on wheels Edit: Sorry The Hyuara is a sequential, my mistake
i think i'm able to explain why people drive classic cars, or prefer too, this will be a bit of a read so bear with. in most cases classic cars feel more personal, you say it has worse handling but we get to a point where we don't notice it, the vehicle has its shortcomings and where it cant perform we as the drive get that experience of picking up the slack and feeling like we are a part of the machine, you know its flaws, and it knows yours, over time it becomes less of a problem for the driver, and makes the car seem more human, it gives the car a soul. i personally own a 1970 Ford F100, yes she has her issues, but it makes you care more, pay more attention, cause if you put in the work and take care of them, they'll take care of you. when people go through a breakup, lose a family member, or something else tragic like that, the experience of going for a drive, firing that car up, not having the certainty of modern engineering makes the experience much more personal, you don't have to talk cause it feels like the cars been through it all before, and you feel better afterwards. to sum it all up, the car isn't just a car to us, its not about how we look driving them, or how we are trying to portray ourselves. its about the experience, and the connection, a bond between man and machine.
Man you mentioned it but missed the G-wagon as a whole. You claimed the Pagani was Archaic but at least that engine has racing pedigree, the G-Wagons just a army jeep from ions ago that they realized if they put some nice leather stitching and chrome on they could fleece every wealthy housewife into aspiring to as a status symbol
@Vincetagram I live in southeastern NC about an hour from Wilmington so I know exactly what you mean. Sadly things still shut down around here for a tropical storm like we're gonna be without power for a week. Speaking of being without power from hurricanes, why does everyone buy milk to prepare?
@@poolhalljunkie9 oh shit you’re in wilmington, y’all get fucked way worse by hurricanes than we do lol. In Columbia we might see flooding but the last hurricane that was actually bad here was in 2018 where bridges were collapsing and houses were underwater. If anything, the city really only shuts down here to open up schools and other large buildings to welcome refugees from charleston, hilton head, and MB lol
Echoing what other comments have said, this video was genuinely engaging! Would love to see more! 👍🏻 On a side note, I love the way the i8 looks. I know myself well enough that I wont do a proper performance car justice since I i usually just cruise around, so the i8's engine is alright. Plus in my country, we have to pay an annual road tax thats exponentially more expensive the larger your engine displacement is, so the i8 is pretty darn affordable to run long term when it comes to that tax. The price when it was brand new was steep though, that I definitely agree!
as much as i can agree with no4 they deffo have their place, for example older demographics who may be scared by the 63, also the 43s are pretty good for cruising
Honestly love how you give credit to Pagani for the craftsmanship. Yeah, it makes "only" 700 hp, but it is incredibly light. I agree and think the old old drivetrain is a bit questionable though.
@@mokonemaile4411 Yup! The Huayra BC set an impressive time around Spa, if I remember correctly. The Huayra R is also incredible! (One of the best sounding V12 imo)
@@Vincetagram to each their own I guess. If I was buying a Camaro I'd always default to the V8, but I wouldn't really feel shame in driving a well specced V6 example either. The platform is great from a dynamics perspective, and the active exhaust really makes them sing. I do agree that base engine muscle car drivers are mostly kinda shit though. There was a guy in my old neighborhood with an Ecoboost Mustang that was always doing the most unhinged shit during traffic hours.
@@LoganSLRLockwood lmaoooooo, the EcoBEAST😂 yeah they are def unhinged. Tbf the difference in weight distribution between the EB and GT are noticeable tho
@@averycoolturtle ehh idk, despite questionable reliability; rotary nerds buy it for the engine, LS guys buy it for the chassis, and journalists love it because apparently it is a really good driving experience(I’ve never driven it).
@@oryoucancallme.comment it low key is, but I genuinely do have positive things to say about each of these cars despite receiving majority of their hype for their aesthetics.
The reason I love classic car because it drive very awfully just like the first time you learn to walk it’s difficult but it make more impression then the walk you take minutes ago
The i8 *should* have had an inline-6, not a V8. If they had used the S55 paired with the mild-hybrid system, it would have been a really cool, modern successor to the M1. Instead it was an eco-box with a 3cyl hybrid and a supercar body.
@@doggodproductions2259 i feel you, in a tiktok video about a similar topic, I said if it had the s55 it could have been the new M1 which I think would have actually given the 911 a true competitor.
Old cars were SLOOOOWWWW. There's a Motor Trend database popular with data science programs, so I spent a lot of time with it getting a degree in data science. My 99 Corolla could outrun almost all the famous muscle cars from the late 60s through the 80s.
The huayra hate makes no sense man - the archaic engine is part of the charm that's why they STILL use them. That's what people want. And the car isn't from 'this decade' the car was made in the early 2010s - 700/800hp back then was only behind the Ageras and the Veyrons until the holy trinity came out and even then 700/800hp was still ballistic. And the Huayra does all of this without any hybrid assistance and with the 'archaic' V12. The only issue I have with the Huayras is the gearbox - using a SCT instead of a DCT to save 100kg doesn't make much sense to me when the car is already so light at just 1250kg.
For example, it makes more power per tonne than the Lamborghini sian or the Ferrari Monza sp2. Lamborghini sian: 485.27 hp per tonne Ferrari Monza: sp2 498.75 hp per tonne Pagani huayra: 533 hp per tonne
I like European cars, but emissions are honestly killing them while American brands run wild which doesn't make sense to me. Despite all the hate though, the European cars are still doing very well with the hybrid drivetrain. The hate that it's getting I believe is coming from user repairability tanking which American brands do very well. I saw you on TikTok Nice seeing you on UA-cam, you popped up on my recommended.
I dont think anyone really likes the i8 sure it may look good for some people but nobodys gonna give pretty privileges to a freakin inline 3💀 but hey we live in a time where people like the Tesla cybertruck
@@ChrisPeprah yeah I meant it’s a good car. Overrated and appreciated for the wrong reasons but def not pretty privilege. Good looking car w/ great performance as well.
@@siyoucefdz6883 not necessarily. I’m unsure of how much the v6 weighs in the mustang but you’ll often find that performance v8s weigh less than their v6 variants due to lighter internals and having a block made of a lighter material.
Archaic ? The Huayra can pelt up to 230 mph. Horsepower means shit if you can't do anything with it, The car has the same amount of HP as it does TQ. The hell kinda take is that ? The Huayra ended with 830 HP with its last BC Tri-Colore editions with even more TQ, the lack of a DCT was purposeful as to save weight I mean COME ONE that was the point. First take is null and void here given that all that was overlooked.
@@samueljones3668 I literally mentioned all of that. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s a mercedes drivetrain from 2 decades ago. So what if it does 230mph? It’s not like that’s a feat in that price range. The veyron and others did that more than a decade ago but if the jesko and the tourbillion used the same drivetrain as back then they’d low key be disappointing. The only company who ppl let that shit slide with is pagani. If the goal was to save weight they could have gone with a manual like ppl actually wanted and they clearly realized that with the new pagani utopia. Weight savings is low key an excuse to not have to develop or source a new transmission because a single clutch semi auto in a 7 figure car in the past 5 years or so is unacceptable. I’ve never driven a single clutch car where the driving experience hasn’t been ruined by how terrible the gear shifts actually feel. You could buy a car with all the performance in the world, but if the driving experience is not actually as good as it could be given the technology that’s available at the time, why is it worth 1.4 million dollars? Why is an engine and transmission that’s also available in really cheap used mercs still worthy of being in such a car nowadays?
@@Vincetagram Me when I spread misinformation. You do realize the Huayra launched in 2013 the engine it used was new WHEN IT LAUNCHED, like are you forgetting that ? The engine it has is bespoke to THE HUAYRA AND UTOPIA, the M158 is not shared in ANY MERCEDES or did you just missed that fact. "Two decade engine", you also mean Bugatti with the W16 repurposed and Konigsegg with the Agera V8 reused and retuned in the Jesko. If it isn't broke WHY FIX IT ? Why is an engine that has ridiculously engineered from the get go that has diesel torque AN ISSUE regardless of its age. And who is "people wanted" our broke asses ? The car was waitlisted its entire life cycle, clearly the ones who are the target market DID NOT CARE, and whats ironic is that the Utopia comes both Automated Manual and Traditional and as of the registry keeping track MOST ARE AUTO I wonder WHY, "people wanted is crazy" we aren't the target market the closest we are gonna see these cars are in Forza or a Cars and Coffee. Pagani's demand that price just in material cost alone, who tf else makes cars out of Carbo-tanium, individual artpieces that can function with obscene performance that weigh less than a Ford Focus, Bugatti is cool but that is just straight corporate might flexing on the industry there is no soul behind Bugatti no matter how much they want use to believe that. Pagani does not get a pass because of pretty privilege, it has stats to back up a majority of its claims, that Top Gear episode of it shitting on everything that launched at the time solidified its standing. Even if owners are afraid to push them, who cares the company earned its reputation with its cars.
@@samueljones3668 oh wow, it does have it’s own engine. I stand corrected on that and that only. The people who want manual are the owners. The pagani registry? Please don’t tell me you’re talking about an instagram account? Pagani themselves say 70% of utopia orders are manual. No soul behind bugatti? That N/A V16 exhaust note still sounds much better than a twin turbo v12 and that’s half the battle when it comes to soul imo. None of this changes my stance on the single clutch semi-auto transmission and saying people WANTED that because it sold out is a terrible means of justifying something lol. I think bell delphine’s bath water sold out too along with every other car where they only make 100 of them. There’s a reason they brought the manual back and most of their customers went for it, there’s a reason koenigsegg tried to simulate a manual transmission in the cc850, there’s a reason the GMA T.50 is only sold with a manual and it’s not because people like you and me, who can’t afford it said single clutch semi-auto’s suck. It’s because people 1000x richer than you and me combined agree. The only people saying they’re good are people who drive 2000s lambos and aventador sympathizers…and that’s gotta be the worst one.
C43 and c63 don't look the same have different bumpers and if nothing else it has diferent tail pipes and c43 engine is also made in AMG factory so it is a real amg
@@AiePro26 yeah, video from that day is really far down in my video page on my channel. No footage or pics of me sitting in it tho cause the owners wife didn’t know that it was the second click that takes the photo lol
Pretty sure this is going to be a SUPER hot take but the aventador and pretty much any bently for the same reason. Both ran for so long with little to no notable styling updates you can get your hands on an older model for SUUUUUPER cheap and because of the badge people act like its something crazy to have. Sorry buddy your 2006 Bently isn't that special or unique and there's a good reason it cost less than a base corolla
@@nkuluquentin5887 I don’t think you understood me, I’ve never heard anyone say the driving experience of a ferrari is overrated meaning that it wouldn’t be pretty privelege. They drive incredibly, regardless of who has what record, Ferrari offers an incredible drive.
@Vincetagram Sorry about that man, my bais against Ferrari got the better of me. I get exactly what you're saying. I didn't realise that the Huayra has pretty privileges until I watched your video, who knows what my Ferrari comment might do 😂
from the outside, not really. I've never been for a ride in a pagani but the looking at the POV/interior driving videos, induction noise and the turbo blowoff from inside the cabin is insane.
not saying 700hp is inadequate, but other cars in the same price range are pushing boundaries in engineering and pushing twice as much hp while sounding better. Also, I was moreso criticizing the drivetrain as a whole, because the single clutch single auto absolutely does not do business. It's a unit that mercedes ditched a long time ago and there's a reason they went back to manuals only with the pagani utopia. Like the aventador, it's one of those cars I'm surprised never got a dual clutch.
@@Vincetagram why they didn't go with a dual clutch I have no clue other than the fact it saved them 70> kg, as for Mercedes ditching the engine, they are quite trigger happy when it comes to ditching larger engines, ie the n/a v8 in the c63. When it comes to power ere are the stats. Mclaren P1: kerb weight 1490 kg, power with hybrid 903 bhp, without 727 bhp power to weight 487 bhp no EV, and 606 with full power from the hybrid. The Porsche 918 spyder: 1720
@@Jamesthomas-cj4eu No I said merc ditched the transmission for a reason, sure the single clutch might be lighter but it ruins the driving experience in every car I’ve experienced it in.
@@Vincetagram fair enough on the transmission, however as far as Ive heard the pagani doesnt suffer from many if any of the transmissions flaws, ua-cam.com/video/YIcGHY_Al_I/v-deo.htmlsi=hjTX4kXCZ8LyvQMA ua-cam.com/video/WnyPtKQKP3Y/v-deo.htmlsi=JSqVeolcRg3Y-AJi and ua-cam.com/video/-_bakHYcD9o/v-deo.htmlsi=6Ou7qkS69f-vWr2i are all test drives and or reviews.
@@gregkollaeg2365 so you’re telling me you seriously think a 1935 suburban is going to go for more miles than a new one? I’m actually willing to bet every last dollar that a c2 vette is going to overheat in traffic before a c8, and I don’t even want to know about high end italian car issues from the 2000s and earlier lol. Nowadays we have lambos that will go 150k miles with regular maintenance. Cars of old were more likely to overheat, parts showed wear more quickly, and structural components were harder to replace. Go ahead and mention the fact that an 80s toyota pickup truck is bulletproof proof but in most cases cars nowadays are safer and more reliable. The parts that are prone to breaking are new electrical components but the drivetrain and supporting parts are usually more solid. If older cars were more reliable then you would still see them on the road being driven on a daily basis.
@Vincetagram so take a car from 1935 with little work, it will drive. Take a new electric car. After 8 year the battery is done. The car will never run. The battery cost 40K. So which car is more reliable for the long run? Which is more sustainable?
@@gregkollaeg2365 crazy cause everyone I know with a 1930s-80s car that isn’t a toyota always has their car in the shop, somethings always broken, or it isn’t ready to hit the road yet…..after years of work lol. Classic car guys love to say cars were much more simple back then but never seem to have their cars running and don’t daily drive classic cars. Electric cars are another thing but as for the vast majority of the modern car market, combustion engine cars are more reliable today than they were decades ago and I’m willing to bet that statistics show it.
@@gregkollaeg2365 so what is that, a car from 1995? That's pretty modern to me lol, has all the features of modern cars that make them safer and more reliable.
Holy shit, almost 6k views. thx guys!
I was shocked when i saw you only had less than 2k subscribers. Enjoyed every bit of this video (and your other videos). You just gained another subscriber! Keep it going!
2:05 "only 700 horsepower" 1: the engine itself is now 22 years old. 2: the car weighs in the ranges of 2,900lbs to 2,300lbs. need i say more? just power doesnt determine a vehicles acceleration. weight plays a big part too.
Yes but its still not close to the other cars in its price range, if we are taliking acceleration a audi r8 will beat it and the Max speed of 380 kph (~237mph) is just to high to drive anywere even on the Autobahn. So i think it is ok to say its more of a art piece than a high Performance car.
+ A at the time of release 14 year old engine? For a „Hypercar“??
@@2taktkek The engine was from a racing series.
@@detinychild4043 still 14 years old? I feel like if it was about speed it could have very well had a tuned Amg V12 or something like that.
as a porsche 944 owner, I can confirm number 5 :) it's crazy how much attention and care it needs when you enjoy the car and use it how intended
As a former 1994 mustang gt owner, I learned the hard way and fucked the engine lol
Unlucky when it comes to the mustang :(( My friend recently crashed the 944 because of bad weather, winter tires and lift off oversteer. We are currently fixing the damage and basically doing all the seals and gaskets of the engine :) glad it didn't hit the timing belt during the crash since it's an interference engine
@@FancyBrent damnnnnnn, when my dad was my age he had an rx7, one time my grandma drove it and forgot to pull the e brake, shit rolled downhill and up a tree😬😬😬😬
The Pagani Hyuara is a purist car, it's a manual because anything else wouldn't be authentic, it is art and feel on wheels
Edit: Sorry The Hyuara is a sequential, my mistake
Definitely not a manual, the Utopia is a manual, the Huayra isn't, iirc it uses the same type of automatic as the Aventador
@@rafaeljunmorita3558 Yeah sorry, it's a sequential, I got confused between the Hyuara and the Utopia
Sequential is manual but better. Faster, more brutal, and still gives you the engagement of rowing your own gears.
@@The-fs5wn True, you still get the mechanical feel of a manual but with the speed of a semi auto
The early ones were manual
i think i'm able to explain why people drive classic cars, or prefer too, this will be a bit of a read so bear with. in most cases classic cars feel more personal, you say it has worse handling but we get to a point where we don't notice it, the vehicle has its shortcomings and where it cant perform we as the drive get that experience of picking up the slack and feeling like we are a part of the machine, you know its flaws, and it knows yours, over time it becomes less of a problem for the driver, and makes the car seem more human, it gives the car a soul. i personally own a 1970 Ford F100, yes she has her issues, but it makes you care more, pay more attention, cause if you put in the work and take care of them, they'll take care of you. when people go through a breakup, lose a family member, or something else tragic like that, the experience of going for a drive, firing that car up, not having the certainty of modern engineering makes the experience much more personal, you don't have to talk cause it feels like the cars been through it all before, and you feel better afterwards.
to sum it all up, the car isn't just a car to us, its not about how we look driving them, or how we are trying to portray ourselves. its about the experience, and the connection, a bond between man and machine.
Man you mentioned it but missed the G-wagon as a whole. You claimed the Pagani was Archaic but at least that engine has racing pedigree, the G-Wagons just a army jeep from ions ago that they realized if they put some nice leather stitching and chrome on they could fleece every wealthy housewife into aspiring to as a status symbol
100% spot on man 👍
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"we are about to get a huracane" aint no way you said that so calmly
@@Haddadi_Mourad same shit different year lol, welcome to the southeast😂
@Vincetagram I live in southeastern NC about an hour from Wilmington so I know exactly what you mean. Sadly things still shut down around here for a tropical storm like we're gonna be without power for a week. Speaking of being without power from hurricanes, why does everyone buy milk to prepare?
@@poolhalljunkie9 oh shit you’re in wilmington, y’all get fucked way worse by hurricanes than we do lol. In Columbia we might see flooding but the last hurricane that was actually bad here was in 2018 where bridges were collapsing and houses were underwater. If anything, the city really only shuts down here to open up schools and other large buildings to welcome refugees from charleston, hilton head, and MB lol
thank you for making such a concise and detailed video!
Echoing what other comments have said, this video was genuinely engaging! Would love to see more! 👍🏻
On a side note, I love the way the i8 looks. I know myself well enough that I wont do a proper performance car justice since I i usually just cruise around, so the i8's engine is alright. Plus in my country, we have to pay an annual road tax thats exponentially more expensive the larger your engine displacement is, so the i8 is pretty darn affordable to run long term when it comes to that tax. The price when it was brand new was steep though, that I definitely agree!
I had to take a double look at your subscribers dude - you should have *way* more.
Keep it up!
@@CuttinUpGetGapped thanks man!
idk bout the I8 bro imo that is not it
I’ve always liked how the i8 looked, it really was just an engine away from being a supercar
The i8 is the perfect example of something that looks wayyy cooler than what it is.
@@disast1ckup facts lol
Most people aren't carguys who know the specs. If a non-car person sees an I8 they're gonna think it's faster than a Huracan. THAT's pretty privalege.
@@Vincetagram it was wasted potential fs. but i also feel like the i8 had so much area of improvement in design and performance.
as much as i can agree with no4 they deffo have their place, for example older demographics who may be scared by the 63, also the 43s are pretty good for cruising
keep going with the content man, u and SocialOrbit on the come up fs
Honestly love how you give credit to Pagani for the craftsmanship. Yeah, it makes "only" 700 hp, but it is incredibly light. I agree and think the old old drivetrain is a bit questionable though.
Yeah I’m sure it’s a great drive overall but I think that transmission is gonna be the bottleneck. Glad they went back to manuals with the utopia.
I agree with you completely but the Huayra is actually incredibly capable around a track
@@mokonemaile4411 Yup! The Huayra BC set an impressive time around Spa, if I remember correctly. The Huayra R is also incredible! (One of the best sounding V12 imo)
Bruh no one realizes old cars would literally overheat in today's chickfila drive thru. I'm glad you brought it up
Old shit American cars maybe
Subscribed, I thought I was watching a UA-camr with a million views+ but was super surprised when I saw only 1000
Appreciate the support man, I said if I hit 1000 views in a week I’d drop another so I’ve got another script already written
W takes but ngl the V6 Camaro sounds pretty nice in stock form with the active exhaust. Bit like an American F Type V6, minus the supercharger.
Hard disagree there lol. That being said, I do know of a 500hp turbo v6 mustang
@@Vincetagram to each their own I guess. If I was buying a Camaro I'd always default to the V8, but I wouldn't really feel shame in driving a well specced V6 example either. The platform is great from a dynamics perspective, and the active exhaust really makes them sing. I do agree that base engine muscle car drivers are mostly kinda shit though. There was a guy in my old neighborhood with an Ecoboost Mustang that was always doing the most unhinged shit during traffic hours.
@@LoganSLRLockwood lmaoooooo, the EcoBEAST😂 yeah they are def unhinged. Tbf the difference in weight distribution between the EB and GT are noticeable tho
@@Vincetagram yea true having a lighter front end can change a lot about the way a car handles
I love this idea. I completely agree with you
Hot take but I would say the FD Rx7 can go here too 👀
rx8 is so much more fun to drive than the 7 but people seem to hate on it lol
@@static7985 because they're known for being ridiculously unreliable I think
@@averycoolturtle we are comparing rx7 and rx8.
@@averycoolturtle ehh idk, despite questionable reliability; rotary nerds buy it for the engine, LS guys buy it for the chassis, and journalists love it because apparently it is a really good driving experience(I’ve never driven it).
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preciate it my boy
The ECD Defenders are way more practical than you think. The whole powertrain is 2021 and up GM making it more reliable than the restomod G wagons
Under rated content thought this was gonna be a hate video
@@oryoucancallme.comment it low key is, but I genuinely do have positive things to say about each of these cars despite receiving majority of their hype for their aesthetics.
@@Vincetagram totally agree with the huarya or smth
this guy is to underrated like how is this even possible?
he gets more views on TikTok, I'm assuming he's making the transition.
honestly, the Huarya is one of the most beautiful cars ever made, but the drivetrain just throws it off, however, it’ll still be great, though.
Oh yes a 6l v12 with 750 hp is soooo bad 😟. If it doesn’t have a 1000hp it’s not cool.
Right on the last one; I've thought about buying a Citroen Traction Avant but with modern running gear because I don't want to deal with 1950's tech.
The reason I love classic car because it drive very awfully just like the first time you learn to walk it’s difficult but it make more impression then the walk you take minutes ago
4:22 correction: the camaro and challenger are now discontinued so.........
The i8 *should* have had an inline-6, not a V8. If they had used the S55 paired with the mild-hybrid system, it would have been a really cool, modern successor to the M1.
Instead it was an eco-box with a 3cyl hybrid and a supercar body.
@@doggodproductions2259 i feel you, in a tiktok video about a similar topic, I said if it had the s55 it could have been the new M1 which I think would have actually given the 911 a true competitor.
0:28 Bro loaded into Forza Hotizon 5
I live in Charleston too! Nice vid
I’m actually in cola lol, I’m in charleston often and it’s just something I noticed
Damn, i dint watch the video but i mean the Huayra BC was the record holder in Laguna seca until the Senna was launched
This is pure heat
such a good video ☝️💯
@@r3vky preciate it g
Old cars were SLOOOOWWWW.
There's a Motor Trend database popular with data science programs, so I spent a lot of time with it getting a degree in data science. My 99 Corolla could outrun almost all the famous muscle cars from the late 60s through the 80s.
Bro that title effin got me😂😂😂😂
Youre the only person i saw it likes how the I8 looks
Just found your channel! Definitely worth a sub!
@@YNWJellyFish thanks man, enjoy!
The huayra hate makes no sense man - the archaic engine is part of the charm that's why they STILL use them. That's what people want. And the car isn't from 'this decade' the car was made in the early 2010s - 700/800hp back then was only behind the Ageras and the Veyrons until the holy trinity came out and even then 700/800hp was still ballistic. And the Huayra does all of this without any hybrid assistance and with the 'archaic' V12.
The only issue I have with the Huayras is the gearbox - using a SCT instead of a DCT to save 100kg doesn't make much sense to me when the car is already so light at just 1250kg.
I heard the standard Huayra is bad to drive but the rest that follows were better (I'm bias because I love the BC and the roadster )
i dont understand why no one has ever super charged these sick AMG pagani engines
For example, it makes more power per tonne than the Lamborghini sian or the Ferrari Monza sp2.
Lamborghini sian: 485.27 hp per tonne
Ferrari Monza: sp2 498.75 hp per tonne
Pagani huayra: 533 hp per tonne
ngl I prefer bmw m3 e30 over the new bmws in terms of looks
@@silly_emoji_user honestly fair enough. It’s the e9x for me as far as the m cars go and the f3x for non m cars.
The i8 has a 1.5 liter 3 cylinder.
Love the vid🙏🙏
Appreciate it
You'll end up with crazy amount of followers. Proud to say I'm here since the 1-2k days :) Best success to you bro
@@dominikn.5940 thanks man!
I like European cars, but emissions are honestly killing them while American brands run wild which doesn't make sense to me. Despite all the hate though, the European cars are still doing very well with the hybrid drivetrain. The hate that it's getting I believe is coming from user repairability tanking which American brands do very well. I saw you on TikTok Nice seeing you on UA-cam, you popped up on my recommended.
It does makes sense. Americans don’t realise how strict european rules are becoming. All those wild American cars are not on sale in europe.
4:37 I should not have laughed that hard
Lmaoooo play stupid games win stupid prizes
Porsche 964 turbo, those rear fenders are wider than a bbl.
There is a built 800hp hatchback bmw
I dont think anyone really likes the i8 sure it may look good for some people but nobodys gonna give pretty privileges to a freakin inline 3💀 but hey we live in a time where people like the Tesla cybertruck
w cybertruck slander
I always liked the i8 but yeah it's clear why it wasn't a great success.
Gt3rs?
@@ChrisPeprah nah
@@Vincetagram I mean it's overrated ngl but it still is a good looking car right
Or not good enough in ur opinion
@@ChrisPeprah yeah I meant it’s a good car. Overrated and appreciated for the wrong reasons but def not pretty privilege. Good looking car w/ great performance as well.
I still cant understand the hate for v6 muscle cars , i mean its a v6 after all , its gonna still have that kick and be lighter
@@siyoucefdz6883 not necessarily. I’m unsure of how much the v6 weighs in the mustang but you’ll often find that performance v8s weigh less than their v6 variants due to lighter internals and having a block made of a lighter material.
@Vincetagram oh then the only reason people buy these might be the price
Because muscle cars don't have V6s, muscle cars have V8s, V8 is the muscle engine
"V8 not V6" - Mad Max
@@clutch44444 so it's the unspoken rule?
@@siyoucefdz6883 Pretty much, a muscle car must have a V8, otherwise there's no muscle
Archaic ? The Huayra can pelt up to 230 mph. Horsepower means shit if you can't do anything with it, The car has the same amount of HP as it does TQ. The hell kinda take is that ?
The Huayra ended with 830 HP with its last BC Tri-Colore editions with even more TQ, the lack of a DCT was purposeful as to save weight I mean COME ONE that was the point.
First take is null and void here given that all that was overlooked.
@@samueljones3668 I literally mentioned all of that. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s a mercedes drivetrain from 2 decades ago. So what if it does 230mph? It’s not like that’s a feat in that price range. The veyron and others did that more than a decade ago but if the jesko and the tourbillion used the same drivetrain as back then they’d low key be disappointing. The only company who ppl let that shit slide with is pagani. If the goal was to save weight they could have gone with a manual like ppl actually wanted and they clearly realized that with the new pagani utopia. Weight savings is low key an excuse to not have to develop or source a new transmission because a single clutch semi auto in a 7 figure car in the past 5 years or so is unacceptable. I’ve never driven a single clutch car where the driving experience hasn’t been ruined by how terrible the gear shifts actually feel. You could buy a car with all the performance in the world, but if the driving experience is not actually as good as it could be given the technology that’s available at the time, why is it worth 1.4 million dollars? Why is an engine and transmission that’s also available in really cheap used mercs still worthy of being in such a car nowadays?
@@Vincetagram
Me when I spread misinformation.
You do realize the Huayra launched in 2013 the engine it used was new WHEN IT LAUNCHED, like are you forgetting that ? The engine it has is bespoke to THE HUAYRA AND UTOPIA, the M158 is not shared in ANY MERCEDES or did you just missed that fact.
"Two decade engine", you also mean Bugatti with the W16 repurposed and Konigsegg with the Agera V8 reused and retuned in the Jesko. If it isn't broke WHY FIX IT ?
Why is an engine that has ridiculously engineered from the get go that has diesel torque AN ISSUE regardless of its age.
And who is "people wanted" our broke asses ? The car was waitlisted its entire life cycle, clearly the ones who are the target market DID NOT CARE, and whats ironic is that the Utopia comes both Automated Manual and Traditional and as of the registry keeping track MOST ARE AUTO I wonder WHY, "people wanted is crazy" we aren't the target market the closest we are gonna see these cars are in Forza or a Cars and Coffee.
Pagani's demand that price just in material cost alone, who tf else makes cars out of Carbo-tanium, individual artpieces that can function with obscene performance that weigh less than a Ford Focus, Bugatti is cool but that is just straight corporate might flexing on the industry there is no soul behind Bugatti no matter how much they want use to believe that.
Pagani does not get a pass because of pretty privilege, it has stats to back up a majority of its claims, that Top Gear episode of it shitting on everything that launched at the time solidified its standing.
Even if owners are afraid to push them, who cares the company earned its reputation with its cars.
@@samueljones3668 oh wow, it does have it’s own engine. I stand corrected on that and that only. The people who want manual are the owners. The pagani registry? Please don’t tell me you’re talking about an instagram account? Pagani themselves say 70% of utopia orders are manual. No soul behind bugatti? That N/A V16 exhaust note still sounds much better than a twin turbo v12 and that’s half the battle when it comes to soul imo. None of this changes my stance on the single clutch semi-auto transmission and saying people WANTED that because it sold out is a terrible means of justifying something lol. I think bell delphine’s bath water sold out too along with every other car where they only make 100 of them. There’s a reason they brought the manual back and most of their customers went for it, there’s a reason koenigsegg tried to simulate a manual transmission in the cc850, there’s a reason the GMA T.50 is only sold with a manual and it’s not because people like you and me, who can’t afford it said single clutch semi-auto’s suck. It’s because people 1000x richer than you and me combined agree. The only people saying they’re good are people who drive 2000s lambos and aventador sympathizers…and that’s gotta be the worst one.
08:19 that bmw looks depressed🤣🤣🤣
It looks like it knows that it is ugly🤣🤣🤣
...archaic drivetrain?
w takes bro
Thanks man
Charleston in the house
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C43 and c63 don't look the same have different bumpers and if nothing else it has diferent tail pipes and c43 engine is also made in AMG factory so it is a real amg
I was thinking in my head bros bout to bring up tesla
BMW i8 fs fs
You sat in a Huayra?!
@@AiePro26 yeah, video from that day is really far down in my video page on my channel. No footage or pics of me sitting in it tho cause the owners wife didn’t know that it was the second click that takes the photo lol
Pretty sure this is going to be a SUPER hot take but the aventador and pretty much any bently for the same reason. Both ran for so long with little to no notable styling updates you can get your hands on an older model for SUUUUUPER cheap and because of the badge people act like its something crazy to have. Sorry buddy your 2006 Bently isn't that special or unique and there's a good reason it cost less than a base corolla
not a hot take at all lol, you see mfs with that 08 recession special trying to flex that bentley badge all the time lol.
I always say modern cars are better in every measurable way than classics, but they aren't as cool.
@@bofa83 haha yeah MEASURABLE is the big keyword here
It drives like shit (or something to that effect)
-Lewis Hamilton on the Zonda
Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
a hatchback … with 500 hp ctfu 😂
Totally agree with everything in this vid!
Also I want to know why c8s get so much hate.
Good question honestly
Might prolly be the looks cuz everyone says it looks like a rip off ferrari
"Camaro is a better sports car than both", is this some weird rage bait?
edit: Oh wait this was two months ago nvm.
Cool videos, but aside from that, the editing is a perfect blend of brainrot goofiness and classy professionalism
@@jkeid315 haha that was exactly what I was going for lol
Ferrari has a lot of pretty privileges
@@nkuluquentin5887 have yet to get in a ferrari and think that the driving experience is overrated
@@Vincetagram Exactly! They're meant to be the best super cars but when was the last time they had a record that matters
@@nkuluquentin5887 I don’t think you understood me, I’ve never heard anyone say the driving experience of a ferrari is overrated meaning that it wouldn’t be pretty privelege. They drive incredibly, regardless of who has what record, Ferrari offers an incredible drive.
@Vincetagram Sorry about that man, my bais against Ferrari got the better of me. I get exactly what you're saying.
I didn't realise that the Huayra has pretty privileges until I watched your video, who knows what my Ferrari comment might do 😂
@@nkuluquentin5887 hahahaha all good
8:45 don't believe it in the slightest.
i am gonna say it the huyara dosent sound good
from the outside, not really. I've never been for a ride in a pagani but the looking at the POV/interior driving videos, induction noise and the turbo blowoff from inside the cabin is insane.
lamborghini countach
This guy shows in every video that he actually doesnt know anything about cars let alone drive them. 😂
@@misterpacha1 sure lol
Privilege* :D
Gonna have to argue withe the first pick, don't see how it's an archaic engine if does the business.
not saying 700hp is inadequate, but other cars in the same price range are pushing boundaries in engineering and pushing twice as much hp while sounding better. Also, I was moreso criticizing the drivetrain as a whole, because the single clutch single auto absolutely does not do business. It's a unit that mercedes ditched a long time ago and there's a reason they went back to manuals only with the pagani utopia. Like the aventador, it's one of those cars I'm surprised never got a dual clutch.
@@Vincetagram why they didn't go with a dual clutch I have no clue other than the fact it saved them 70> kg, as for Mercedes ditching the engine, they are quite trigger happy when it comes to ditching larger engines, ie the n/a v8 in the c63.
When it comes to power ere are the stats.
Mclaren P1: kerb weight 1490 kg,
power with hybrid 903 bhp, without 727 bhp
power to weight 487 bhp no EV, and 606 with full power from the hybrid.
The Porsche 918 spyder: 1720
@@Jamesthomas-cj4eu No I said merc ditched the transmission for a reason, sure the single clutch might be lighter but it ruins the driving experience in every car I’ve experienced it in.
@@Vincetagram fair enough on the transmission, however as far as Ive heard the pagani doesnt suffer from many if any of the transmissions flaws, ua-cam.com/video/YIcGHY_Al_I/v-deo.htmlsi=hjTX4kXCZ8LyvQMA
ua-cam.com/video/WnyPtKQKP3Y/v-deo.htmlsi=JSqVeolcRg3Y-AJi and
ua-cam.com/video/-_bakHYcD9o/v-deo.htmlsi=6Ou7qkS69f-vWr2i are all test drives and or reviews.
New cars are more reliable? 🤣 good joke
@@gregkollaeg2365 so you’re telling me you seriously think a 1935 suburban is going to go for more miles than a new one? I’m actually willing to bet every last dollar that a c2 vette is going to overheat in traffic before a c8, and I don’t even want to know about high end italian car issues from the 2000s and earlier lol. Nowadays we have lambos that will go 150k miles with regular maintenance. Cars of old were more likely to overheat, parts showed wear more quickly, and structural components were harder to replace. Go ahead and mention the fact that an 80s toyota pickup truck is bulletproof proof but in most cases cars nowadays are safer and more reliable. The parts that are prone to breaking are new electrical components but the drivetrain and supporting parts are usually more solid. If older cars were more reliable then you would still see them on the road being driven on a daily basis.
@Vincetagram so take a car from 1935 with little work, it will drive. Take a new electric car. After 8 year the battery is done. The car will never run. The battery cost 40K. So which car is more reliable for the long run? Which is more sustainable?
@@gregkollaeg2365 crazy cause everyone I know with a 1930s-80s car that isn’t a toyota always has their car in the shop, somethings always broken, or it isn’t ready to hit the road yet…..after years of work lol. Classic car guys love to say cars were much more simple back then but never seem to have their cars running and don’t daily drive classic cars. Electric cars are another thing but as for the vast majority of the modern car market, combustion engine cars are more reliable today than they were decades ago and I’m willing to bet that statistics show it.
@@Vincetagram still driving my 30 year old BMW every day without any problem. Do you think a modern car from today will work in 30 years? No way!
@@gregkollaeg2365 so what is that, a car from 1995? That's pretty modern to me lol, has all the features of modern cars that make them safer and more reliable.
gt3rs is a horrible car
@@naynay2007_ I’m finna call the CEO of the internet and have him ban you from the internet😂
No
Wadiyatalkinabeet
All the safety/environmental regulations and plastics ruins modern cars.
Let me just hide in the comments with my Ecoboost Mustang... 🥲
w takes bro
Thanks man