What "Hanging on for Dear Life" Looks Like... Intel Core i9 10900K & i5 10600K Review
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2025
- Intel’s back with the 10th-gen Core lineup, and they’re still on 14nm. Are the new chips fire, or are they like fire - too hot?
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The cooler used for all testing was a Corsair H115i. This information should have made it onto the thermal graphs directly, but we missed it.
Hum...
Ok then
Your review is really too rough, you have got used to another level of quality
Aight thanks bro
ok, good to know
"hanging on for dear life" is what every pc component you handle experiences
This is hilarious and made my day, ty
Not just pc components 😂😂
Nah it’s my i7-4790, 16gb Ram, GTX 745 build is doing when I overclock the GPU (and have to max out the GPU fan) to get 900p30fps on Witcher 3
Fucking punts it across the football field
Burn lvl: Intel
I don't care who's better, team blue or team red, all i want is a good competition between the two so we get good pricing
Now we just have to wait for AMD to catch up with NVidia's high end GPUs and soon we can build super freaking sick systems for relatively cheap. Competition is always great for the consumer!
@@Tobias611 Very very true
Hopefully AMD releases some better enthusiast cards, as of now Nividia is still the only choice for high end gaming PCs.
@@Tobias611 hey I bet you are REAL happy right now
@@nicky2575 Oh I am lol. Same/better performance than a 2080Ti for half the price? Now THAT'S good news for the consumer!
COULD I STOP GETTING THE SOLAR POWERBANK AD FOR
5
FUCKING
SECONDS
Aha! I thought I was alone in this struggle! So I'm not crazy!!
lol I feel you
This is a legit suggestion that I am using myself: If you pay for Spotify or something like that, switch to Google Play Music. Same cost, mostly the same library, but you get UA-cam Premium for free. Literally forget UA-cam ads ever existed.
fuck that power brick! i want to give it 0 stars if its on amazon lol
@@yagorbalotsin While that would be great, Google is shutting down Play Music by the end of 2020. It's like Google's just canceling things out of boredom now.
I'll bet that Intel had those crazy thermal solutions up in their sleeve for a long time but only now they're forced to implement them in use.
Competition forces innovation, just like how capitalism should work. Too bad most businesses are monopolies these days.
I wanted to give you a like but you are at 69.
@@ergo8039 Incorrect. Government interference of free and open markets is what leads to monopolies. Free markets are almost completely self correcting.
I love how everyone here is criclejerking on bullshit that isn't even true. No, intel didn't have this 'secret technique' up their sleeve. They were losing sales 10:1, if they really knew about this they wouldn't have hesitated to implement it. They got the idea from der8auer
@@saber-jocky3436 thats a ridiculous notion. Capitalism is a social darwinistic experiment, those who rise to the top and gain money and power and will use that money and power to influence things in their direction whether it be via the government or otherwise. We had free market capitalism once already with little to 0 government interference and it led to monopolies and large scale abuse of workers.
Well, they almost would have got a sale out of me. My intel build desperately needs a CPU upgrade and these would have been a good choice. BUT, new socket. If I'm buying a new motherboard anyway, I'm going back to AMD.
Went from a 4690k to a Ryzen 3600 and don't regret the switch one bit. Even Win 10 these days doesn't require a repair install.
At least you guys got a new socket. With my Z270 board I have the same socket but can't use the same cpus. Like WTF?!
@@compmanio36 it is still recommended to do a win10 reinstall. I switched from intel 2500k to amd ryzen 3600 and did some benchmarking without reinstalling win10. I noticed weird numbers. When i did a clean reinstall the numbers jumped to the expected ranges and also I could overclock higher for some reason before I got stability issues
compmanio36 I’m still rocking the i7 4790k
THese cpu's could have come out a hundred dollars cheaper across the board and I still wouldn't recommend them to anyone, even pure gamers.
2:08 when he said intel engineers had a few more tricks up their sleeves, i was 100% expecting "buy this sleeveless t-shirt from LTT.com"
You can still buy their sleeveless underwear
Missed opportunity!
*lttstore.com
1:46 Thank you for that bit, your video was finally the right way up for us here in Australia
😆
Tommorow : Why i left Yvonne for Intel.
hahahahahaha
That is the funniest thing i heard ever
lmao 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha
i feel like thats more of a unbox therapy thing, with that classic thumbnail of him looking disappointed hold the phone
23 hours ago: "Why I still love Intel..."
and still do! this chips is a beast
@@moby1kanob at consuming lots of watts and at price
@@dam8976 electricity is cheap...
He did that video to impress intel
wtf it’s not about that. think of it like this. gas is 10 cents a gallon and you could own a prius or a truck. one looks cooler on paper, but one uses a lot less gas and is cheaper
As an AMD user myself, I am glad Intel manages to release a good set of CPUs here. Never should we forget that competition is the best thing that can happen to us, the buyers of their products.
Well, good, as long as you're not taking into account the fact that Ryzen 4000 will probably wipe the floor with those. Perhaps we'll see a fair match by, say, Intel 11th gen or 12th gen, but until then the Ryzen steamroller isn't stopping.
i dont even think its good, just look at the power draw.. if this was AMD they would be lynched for it... but atleast these processors are not bad
Unless you’re a raging fanboy! Then you forget that competition is good 😄
Ur right I think u get a good cpu from both side atm als price difference is not that big. Powerdraw is very different but honestly I have never cared about the powerdraw of my pc
At 125w stock in performs quite well. But only if price matched 3900x.
Linus: "Man I sure hope our fire insurance is up to date"
24 hours later: Uploads video about server room catching fire...
"Hanging on to dear life"
oh you mean "Hanging on by a THREAD ??"
The video title was "You will buy Intel". They now changed it.
@@BudgetGamerz Yeah, I just recognized it. But why they changed it?
BADUM TSSSSS!
That thread's quite stretched. :P
@@TheEDFLegacy some say... that it's on the verge of getting RIPPED.
If AMD drops prices in reaction to this Intel release you'll be able to a buy 3900X and an MSI X570 Tomahawk for the price at the MSRP of the i9-10900K.
Thanks Intel!
hmm? Why? By the logic AMD should rise their prices
They won't. They are gonna drop 4000 series as their reaction. And then drop prices on 3000 because 3000 will be outdated.
AMD can only keep dropping prices.
Actually AMD could rise the prices. Because when you buy Ryzen you get also decent (not superb, but still sufficient) cooler. But when you buy Core you'll need to spend extra for huge cooling solution. So there is clear winner in perf/money.
@@Matthew-sp5kv Works for me. Cheapo 3700X deals ftw.
"A few tricks up their sleeves... LTTStore.com"
What I expected, but didn't hear.
2:03
speaking of sleeves...
Haha I was thinking that too
I thought it was joke when he promoted that 3 pack underwear for $49.99, until I went to his actual online store and saw it.
Means they've achieved their marketing goals ^^
He clearly said it but they cut it!
As an Intel fan, I’d like to thank AMD and all their supporters because it has forced Intel to make better products to stay competitive. Yes they are still on catchup in many ways but im pretty confident they will finally make it. This type of competition is what give us the buyers more options and better products to choose from.
"You’re Still Gonna Buy Intel" Not with what those pricing premiums run up to in CAD.
😂😅 real shit
yea whats with that?!
They renamed the video to "What "Hanging on for Dear Life" Looks Like"
@@Herr.Mitternacht lol cause amd gives cpus away for free?
@@Lobstertainment bro u seriously gonna defend intels prices lmao
Intel: Here the I5 and I9!
Me: Where is the I7 ?
Intel: we dont talk about this one.
IMHO the i7 10700KF is the only one appealing to me from the 10th Gen stack
XAN TON agreed
how many times you going to write the SAME COMMENT? its on here bitwit and other tech channels LMAO
@@gamergonegaming6811 facts
i7-10700K performance is probably the same as i9-9900KS.
Never thought I'd see 8 thread i3 becoming commonplace, competition sure is nice.
I remember DUAL CORE "i7" MOBILE processors that Intel used to put out like... Yesterday! It's fucking ridiculous how badly the market was getting bent over to them until Ryzen came around.
well yeah thats crazy
even crazier if you see older amd cpu to zen cpu
@@thatsreallyamoon I bought a $1k laptop in 2015 before I knew about computers. I knew it had an i7 and a video card with 4gb of vram so I assumes it was good. It was not. The cpu was a dual core and it didn't even have an ssd. Fuck dell.
TheScrubmuffin69 rip man, life is tuff sometimes 😓
@@TheScrubmuffin69 tough, but when you save up and make the jump to a god-tier mobile chip like the 4800H/4900H... The difference will be literally unbelievable.
Me: *Screaming* HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Electricity Bill: Why are you running? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?
That slide at 7:10 comparing retail pricing to wholesale pricing without mentioning it in the script is a bit greasy. It's not WRONG, but it's hard to say it'll be a slight premium when we don't know what the premium will actually be.
If you even catch it on the slide, the 99.9% of us who don't know how "per 1k" translates to "retail" are just left confused. And if you don't catch it you underestimate the premium.
Yep, it's easy to manipulate people with numbers, and we all know when Linus said something really practical for average users, lol.
This really stood out to me also and to breeze over it like that seems a bit iffy.
@@knives6683 But he never sais that those will be the final prices, and he even says that Intel will como at a premium price over AMD. He can't say what the final prices will be, so that is as much as he can say
Read your comments before getting to that part of the video. I think it’s fine as the point he was makinh is that Intel is deliberately pricing it at a premium. Since the indicated price on the table is wholesale we should expect an even higher premium on retail. Better to have some idea on the comparison than none at all.
plus the difference on the Mother Board prices
Love how they change the title of the video after a couple of hours to give everybody in the comments that "Gotcha"
Can u tell me what was the original title?
@@ca9inec0mic58 "You're still gonna buy Intel"
@@XAV-117 You're still gonna buy Intel.
It's a ploy to get more views
It’s called clickbait dawg
*Linus:* You're still gonna buy Intel
*Every Macbook user:* Well, I guess...
ARM CPUs for Macbook is around the corner.
@@AchiragChiragg Everyone else: What about us? :(
@@AchiragChiragg I'm aware of that. And I really hope they do it.
So does that mean that some of the gaming that is available now, won’t be available?
Take a look at TallyHo Tech's channel. He puts up the Zephyrus 14 against an Aero Intel laptop and the MacBookPro 16, testing out productivity software. Interestingly, the big gains of AMD are really concentrated in gaming. Intel has a lot of drivers very specific to burst clock and other things that Adobe and DaVinci take advantage of. Even the Mac16 which has "weaker" specs than either, occasionally beats them on productivity tasks because either of Apple's specific drivers and the Metal API.
0:32 For a smoother segue, you should have gotten a fire insurer as sponsor ;-)
That's the most creative way I have ever seen segway being typed 😂
@@RyanMitchell350 This is the correct spelling of the word "segue" that they're talking about
Linus: “You’re still going to buy intel.”
Me: _”No...I don’t think I will.”_
I sure will. Well, maybe 11th gen. The 6700k is still good
@Advocatus Diaboli No Winter is coming you will need it .
@@XAX-v or maybe 9100f
@Advocatus Diaboli OK AMD fanboy
@@Leo-ve9xm OKAY INTEL FANBOI
3:40 "Never buy a piece of tech, based the promise of future software updates" - Marques Brownlee
i always think about that when i buy something since I heard that line...
FTFY Michael fisher
But what about the oculus quest?
you mean markass brownie?
Oculus Quest is that weird exception.
"That... does not compute!" - That is exactly what this does.
....
What's that fire video from 0:29? Can I have a link?
first time I was this early, Linus was reviewing the firetruck
same lol
and there was a firetruck in the intro
Jesus, it’s been a minute. How did this get so much attention??
@@woubulbus joe
@@coreythegamer9845 yeah just noticed that lmao
What’s funny is we all know that as soon as they reach 10nm on desktop we’re just gonna be getting a bunch of 10nm+++ generations.
is 10nm next for intel? is this confirmed?
The next generation is still 14nm, but a new architecture backported from 10nm. The one after that is actually 10nm.
Aaron my dad works there it’s 14nm then their going to roll out the 10nm
Mohsen Amjad Right. And my dad is the CEO of Nintendo.
i don't think so, their CFO said that 10nm is bad for Intel now. They say that 5nm is more promising than 10nm
AMD: Winter is Coming. Intel : Fire and Blood.
I didn't get that reference sorry
@@Pablovru I didn't understand too
@@Pablovru Game of Thrones reference.
Winter isn't coming with those Intel chips power loads.
@@requen It was meant that AMD will burry Intel in winter with their 4000 Ryzen processors...
1:44 audio cut there. Linus definitely thought the base clock was 4.7GHz.
"You're still gonna buy intel"
My wallet: Yeah, no,
SecretChiley lmao
bill gates: buys intel
the 10400f does look reall compelling tho, 6c12t for 150 usd? hell yeah!
Your FPS: yeah nah
@@mynameisray not everyone is as blessed as you with rich parents, my liege
Amd : Announces 4000 series.
Intel: “Mission failed, we’ll get em next time”
Lol a cod reference
Still loses in games even with 7nm
@@alemanmx1980 Are you dumb intel is for lazy gamers and AMD is people who actually work for a living and use their own money and not just feeding on their parents.
Linus: Why I still love Intel part 2
@@BriceRice Well thats a retarded logic.
*1 Day ago*
Linus: "Why I Love Intel"
*Today:*
Not saying it's suspicious... But it kinda is fucking suspicious.
i was thinking the same exact thing lol
It seems as if intel had paid them a bit of cash money? Don’t you think? And maybe bitwit since I saw a video that was pretty much the same
@@50H3i1 Or, its simply the fact that Intel has a more stable platform for his workplace's workflow.
@@woubulbus Making a video where Linus sobs over the "people at Intel" being nice people? I wondered what the point of that video was since obviously they're nice people. Every company has sociable people in it. They rely on the "human" aspect to increase brand loyalty (literally Marketing 101). That video just happened to be released 19 hours ago... Yeah, I smell BS.
...more of that "Red vs Blue" battle...
Sarge: Hey, why the hell do you hang out with blues?
intel: "increases the core count"
amd: "You Dare Use My Own Spells Against Me"
More like.
Intel: this is a fireball
And: how cute, this is a fireball
quick strike no, it’s this:
Intel: FIREBALLLLLLL
AMD: how cute, *this* , is a fireball. *sends a nuke*
intel: fire ball
amd: haha cute this is the sun
Ironically Intel's next gen "Rocket Lake" will revert back to 8 cores max. It has to have some insane IPC if it wants to compete against AMD's Zen3 and it's 15-20% IPC improvement and 50-100% more cores..
Intel: This is a match stick.
AMD: Awh how cute, this is a flamethrower.
You're Still Gonna Buy Intel...
Up Next: Even Used Intel CPUs aren't a good value anymore....
AVeryNormalGuy same
That is what I have!
same
Same
same
Also keep in mind that AMD hasn’t released there 4000 series processors yet.
Their*
Even if they did intel is still a better choice as intel literally never failed as a company and sucked for 10 years in a row like AMD did . It’s a solid king of the hill intel is always better
@@outthewindowproductions9212 do you by any chance own an iphone?
@@outthewindowproductions9212 Someone doesn't remember the netburst architecture to say that Intel never sucked for a couple of years.
They never failed? The last 2 years they have been thrown in the fucking garbage and people havebeen begged to not buy their processors, sounds like a fail to me
literally just got an add featuring, Linus, on his own video, and was so attracted to watching it, I watched the full thing.... *Way to pull in add revenue Linus!* xD
Linus' pandemic beard makes him look like a real grow-up man! who'd have guessed!
Still needs bigger arms to complete the look
"You're gonna buy Intel"
Everyone: this is bait. I'm going to take it
Every single time Linus makes a title obviously baiting AMD people you guys flock to the video and start arguing. Tomorrow's video will be some pro-AMD bait and you'll show up just the same, having the same arguments without an ounce of self awareness. Ffs LOL
@@mirsatyt6286 haha sub begger
I r8 THIS b8 8/8
Well, it’s a great way to make money in this pandemic, he can’t be at the studio dropping random shit for views
I keep my Ryzen 2700X until Ryzen 4000 comes out, sorry I'm tired of paying more for the same or less, after all I use my PC more professionally and only some as gamer
@@dukcy7450 hey man I support the hustle. Not annoyed with LTT, annoyed with his brain-dead fanbase
"You're still gonna buy intel"
Me: No, I don't think I will
AMD still the mid-to-budget range go-to.
@@QuinchGaming it is still the go to for all ranges
I'm to broke for intel
@@zayd1111 I mean you can say that all you want, because it aligns with your opinions and it makes you feel good, but it's clearly not based in reality... You get great value with AMD, that's their whole angle, but Intel has a hugely higher market share and have had so for many many years.. In no way, shape or form are they the "go-to for all ranges", even if you would like it to be that way...
@@Pellemain since when an average consumer does a rearch before buying something
when Linus said "and they packed 10 cores on the freaking thing?" i was like "Hell yeah brother Murica"
They changed the title on this in the last hour or so. It was a positive themed headline.. now it's a negative themed headline
Why did they do this? It's really messed up
@@outdat3d-04zx10r-ha they are just working the UA-cam algorithm. If they don't get a lot of clicks when the video first uploads, then the algorithm won't serve their video as much. So if they are low on video watches and they still have hope for clicks, the they will change the title to hopefully make it more eye catching and clickable.
I forget what UA-camr taught this, but a lot of channels (if not all) do it
Most likely to get more views from AMD fans.
@@zachh6868 I think Linus himself talked about that (and that they are doing it) at some point. Maybe it was in a WAN show or something.
They are a company and maximizing exposure/traffic and revenue is an important thing to do after all.
"You're still gonna buy intel"
Me: *laughs in budget*
Me: laughs while counting my food stamps.
"10900k" The K stands for Kelvin
Lmao
Ha ha.. but it isn't anyway...
Overrused joke at this point.
Lmaoooo
@@azarilh2355 I literally came up with the joke today
Intel core i5 10600k is actually very good for it's price. Thank you AMD for forcing Intel to actually care about their customers once again :D
Man Intel has gotten some rollercoaster ride particularly I'm speaking on the used market, used 7700K has mostly been a bad value from how those sellers are putting it's value, $200-300 like seriously? 10100F came in to market and it's affordable $129 ish tag is a way better value than that 7700K
And something more on the higher end side and more rare to talk about I couldn't imagine how a price of a used 9980XE compares to a used, may as well be new, 10980XE, those 9980XE better not sell at higher tags than a 10980XE
would have been nice to have a consuption comparation between team blue and red
You mean consume as eating them?
Bruce Wayne exactly what he means
Yeah! Im buying the better tasting one
Angelo yeah me too, add a little bit of thermal paste for some extra flavor. Learned this after consuming last gen chips.
Linus: "AMD's 7nm node"
TSMC: "Am I a joke to you"
AMD's still the one using it...
@@chafarlefeu what about ARM SOC(k)s?
This has bugged me for a while. The fanboys keep touting "AMD's" node when they failed HARD as a silicon producer. Zen has been a great design but if AMD actually had to build it it would be a massive flop 5 years down the road. Give some credit to TSMC leading the pack
ASML "Dafuk!, Did I just spend the last 30 years making EUV for come chavs to take all the credit?!?!"
You have GlobalFoundries to blame for the old ass architectures along with AMD. AMD does not produce their own silicon like Intel does, but ever since AMD abandoned GF, they've been in a much better place.
"You're still going to buy Intel..."
*I look at Zen 3 features
*Press X to doubt.*
X
X
8 core CCX... 20% promised single core performance uplift... 7nm+...
Yeah... good luck with that Intel.
I hope zen 3 aint all hype
@@beesong2450 yeah, me too. I'm probably going to buy zen2 with a b550 board when I have the spare cash.
They saved the best silicon for last.
Awesome CPU that new one. Pushing the limits.
Looks like you should be more concerned for the VRM's than the CPU itself.
when companies compete, the consumer wins. I like this
they recieve your money so yeah "consumer" xd
@@mauntaxthelegend3188 You receive a better product for the price...
@@beri4138 yep better product for better price
Capitalism wins again lol
@Ryan W Intel is better for gaming, in specific cases. As in it has to be a k series and has to have adequate cooling. Also power efficiency is non existant. Boost requires twice the fuckin Watts. Amd on the other hand feels jerry rigged and has the ccx issue and ram issues and latency issues. Where because there are two ccx dies, there are a few latency issues and that's why their fuckin 4 core cpu on one ccx performs better in some cases than a 6 core 3600.
Intel on the other hand are just selling Pre overclocked cpus at the moment. As in they're making modifications overclockers would make rather than improving their ipc archetectually instead of just relying on a die shrink.
1:42 that's some slick audio editing you got there..... 😂
I didn't even notice that. 😂
"three!"
Or rather, not slick. I noticed it immediately lol
brokegaming.co.uk/
1:42 Core clocks over time - Lower is better, hmmm
Obviously...
as a daily driver with the 10600k im loving it currently havent seen any issues with it at all heat usually hovers around 60c while under heavy load def worth the buy
same here i love it dude ..
@@MrCorley a fellow member of culture i see
Linus: “you’re still gonna buy intel”
Do you think we all have that much money
edit: jesus christ why do so many people care about this
wow way to tell people that you are a broke ass bitch lol
@@TheCursedMessiah that's mean
@@TheCursedMessiah dude shut up
True XD if you are on a budget choose amd, its a much better bang for the buck
@@Pnk117 calm down its not a big deal
"You’re Still Gonna Buy Intel…"
Me: Was I suppose to? Why? Its just the pentium 4 HT days again. Amd is cool and quiet and Intel is.... through the fire and flames.
Thanks now I have the song in my head. Thanks DragonForce.
Yoooo he changed the title 😂 🤣
@TheGoat are we talking some e8400 wolfdale ? =D
You will need that to cook food
how much is the cooling solution I need to maintain that performance and what is the difference in power consumption
Thermals are well managed
Thermals: 95° yeah dude whatever you say
My thoughts exactly. -5 to the tj max is a well managed thermals in a ltt world.
yeaaahh... not gonna buy intel this year..
AMD here i come
@@gary6576 lol
Y'all have been spoiled by AMD, 95°C power draw isn't that bad.
@@gary6576 This is bait
love the new intro, and a really nice editing job this time around :D
Linus, blink twice if Intel is pointing a gun to your head.
Blink three times if the gun shoots money.
Duck if it shoots tshirts, tho'...
nah. just free chips to test like every other decent tech youtuber
That was exactly what I was thinking about the last two intel videos. Nothing but dunking on them for putting out the same stuff for years and then two in a row being nice when they are still serving up the same stuff.
@@joshpua4274 Last video was a fugen joke. That "personal" type of video with his puppy eyes talking how i shouldnt extend my criticism of the product to the whole company. Lol like i should give a damn.
I guess he is worrying about AMD may be suddenly doing what Intel has done in the past, so he is trying to say that the competition is still on, hoping that AMD will still launch product with great value.
“10 Cores will catch fire”
Ryzen 9 3990x Threadripper: “Huh?”
the heck you mean intels boosting 10 cores on way less efficient lithography nodes, less nm = power reduction + more performance = more efficient. i do admit that they did a great job shrinking the extra die(not needed) material so they could keep up but thats as good as it gets they still need to step up their game.
@@filippos989 He's making fun of Intel
not the same price at all dude :)
also I9-10900K - huh?
There's a large difference between running nearly a dozen cores at a high speed, than running dozens at low.
A storm is coming. It's called Ryzen 4000.
lol linus changed the title
thank god for amd
Same 7nm. Not big improvements.
misterPAINMAKER same 14++++++++++++nm. Not big improvements.
@@misterPAINMAKER 7nm euv, 8 to 10 percent ipc gain, 20% increase in transistor density, and 10% lower power consumption. If smt 4 is true then i dont know if intel would be able to counter that for at least 2 years. By that time zen 4 will be on 5nm with 3d stacking...
I wish I can experience the Moores Law in full action where CPU gain x100 in performance every two years or so, now these days CPU only gain around 0.1 GHz each CPU release. I was born in 2002 and only knew about computer hardware in 2016 so I didn't get to experience the speed at which computers were improving back then when Moores Law was relevant. I hope through technical innovation, that the Moores Law will come back and speed up the computer power by a lot.
The beard and new haircut makes Linus like a minor Game Of Thrones Character that gets killed in Season 2
thats scaringly accurate
Linus: Gets pushed out of a window..
"The Nvidias' send their regards!"
Nice title switch. Old one was “Why you’re still going to buy Intel” or very similar
ok
Linus: "You’re Still Gonna Buy Intel…"
in a few hours later
Linus: "What "Hanging on for Dear Life" Looks Like... Intel Core i9 10900K & i5 10600K Review"
in a few hours later more
Linus: "Buy a new Intel CPU please. I need something to eat"
Artem - This is exactly my thought when watching this. I'm team AMD at this point, because they actually have done some innovation, while keeping prices down. Been running a Ryzen 5 1600 since 2017, and I can right now, buy a Ryzen 5 2600 for $129. That would give me double the power, while changing nothing else! And I can still eBay my older chip for about $100.
Except, he isn't wrong... people will see "best performance in games" and they will buy. If I was looking to replace my purely gaming system, I would be looking at what gets the best out of my graphics card for the budget I have... so will probably stay intel. But for my workstation, i will obviously be staying AMD. There is competition, finally, but with that the choice becomes less clear.
This is the point Linus is making, pretty sure he couldn't give a damn what you spend your money on tbh.
I got my pc pre-built and it’s an intel processor with an LGA 1151 motherboard but I’m looking to switch to AMD Ryzen with a new motherboard whilst keeping the same hard drive. Is there anything I need to know before doing this?
@@MR-om3kg get a cheap SSD. No neeed to ditch your old hard drive(I am still using all my old hard drives even from laptops). No need to do anything else since your HD should still use SATA ports. SSD even SATA not NVME is still loads better than HD
Vizman216 who cares its his life
Linus: 0:28
Linus 1 day later: OUR SERVER ROOM CAUGHT FIRE
Well... that's an unfortunate joken
Title: "You’re Still Gonna Buy Intel…"
People who got laid off because of corona: *Cries in broke*
are you, like, subscribed to every single channel on UA-cam?
wow
Rip, you will have moustache someday
@@purpleneons For some reason, youtube algorithm promote this guy.
Because of the states' measures, not corona.
Bruh
im not going to buy intel:D
Good luck with that company mate
@@vidiadamm what you mean, homie.
Buy the best value/$ for your needs, not the brand.
what if i made a pc with components made by ME
@xHolic homie is lost, man...even his name say so :D
Anyone else remember when this video was still called: "Why you're still gonna buy Intel" or sth like that?
Yeah intel probably paid him to keep that title for a couple of hours
@@lazarvuckovic9615 It's called A/B testing. They try two titles, they see the one which generates more views and then they cut off the one which is less productive. The content of the review and the message is the same: only gamers who care to have all of the frames at any cost are going to buy this, the rest is settled with 8th gen CPUs and AMD Ryzen 2.
@@or1on89 yea ok, I agree. But the title completely changed the meaning. It wasn't just some wordplay for extra views. But the whole meaning of the title turned 180°.
@@or1on89 Ryzen 2? I guess you meant Zen 2?
@@christoph6055 Yeah, in my mynd it went Ryzen 3000/Zen 2 and I merged the two names... xD
I've had an i5 2400 for years and I'm thinking of upgrading to a i9 10900 pc. do you think it's a good idea? I don't know much about ryzen
Yes if you have the budget, it's a beast that will hold up for many years. If you do gaming and even music production (it's very sensible to single thread perfomance). In multithreaded workloads is very good, to push it even further you can overclock or take the safest route which is undervolting or changing the Turbo Boost behavior and increase perfomance by a good margin.
Ryzen is also very good but they usually don't hold up as well like Intel processors. 3rd gen Ryzen will be obsolete once 4rd gen comes out.
Stop forcing me buy CPUs Linus, my kids are starving and they can't handle it anymore
U know..... after buyng intel u will no longer have the need to pay heat taxes
Feed them the CPU chips, they're high in coreteins.
Feed them your old chips ;)
Just buy a $25 Pentium this time around.
Title before it got changed: YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BUY INTEL...
80408AN I don’t get why they changed it
@@mrmister2664 probably wasnt getting enough views because it either annoyed people or they didnt know what itw as about
@@skycubix8943 Maybe because he is praising 60 degrees on CPU without boost (90 with boost btw) and "forgot" to mention he is using 200$ water cooling
@@XQgint The 60 degrees is while the CPU is boosting(4.0GHz is above the base clock), the 90 degrees is when they disable the boost limit
@@skycubix8943 My bad. I checked the specs and this really is 0.3 Ghz above base clock. However specs also say that the boost is 5.30 GHz (Intel® TVB) and does not mention any limit.
Video Linus : "You're still gonna buy Intel..."
Inner Linus : "Forgive me father for i have sinned!"
More like *mother* Su
AMD is his dad?
@@anmolsekhon3865 true
More like let me pay my staff
Bing Bong The sponsor is his dad
i never overclock. not my thing. stock out of the box keeps it simple and fun. then is the K cpu's necessary? thats my question. I have a i7 6700 works well
Now we know why there was an emotional intel video yesterday 🙄🙄
Hahahaha his house caught fire
Lololol
@@swastikray2377 Now it all makes sense he bought an Intel chip . Later his house caught fire and how he's here making this video to tell Intel to stay away from him.
Mahir Shahriar How many times are you going to repost this shitty joke in comment responses?
What a bunch of drama queens you lot are. Both AMD and Intel are producing good tech, there is nothing wrong with Linus getting excited by that.
Man, that beard is attracting viewers... ¬¬
very alpha
linus is no longer a beta
Honestly it's gotten better the longer he grows it out
I came from the mean comments video and I ca t believe this virgin can grow such a beard.
*attacking viewers.
@@lolly4961 I mean he has a wife and kids but ok...
"You're still gonna buy Intel"
*Laughs in R9-3900X*
😂
laughs in 3 year old laptop
Facts lol
Laughs in i-5 9400f
Laughs in 2012 Acer Aspire...
Thank you for putting csgo as a benchmark it's really hard to find Counter-Strike benchmarks on new CPUs please continue using csgo as a benchmark I really appreciate it I've been a longtime fan of the channel
Lol
Yesterdays video: Why I Still Love Intel...
Todays video: Youre Still Gonna Buy Intel...
Me: Coincidence? Something tells me no. Also, when is a CPU with a limiter, or running in the high 80s to low 90s in ~5.5min at stock ever acceptable?
Acceptable if you can afford to replace it in a few months I guess.
I reckon Linus is trying to balance out the popularity of each company as if one dies out (not much chance but still) we're back a too more expensive CPUs with no alternative and less content creating 'drama'. Now AMD is secured but taken a small hit what better time to help intel back up. If AMD looks like it's in danger but gets a chance to redeem itself he'll be saying how he still loves AMD. It's all about keeping the balance of nature.
@@jonomoth2581 so true
@@jonomoth2581 Yeah cause linus cares if intel dies down
of course this can't happen but anyway. No i hate to think but i think someone just took a "boost" to make two videos in a row for intel!
And now the title is "What "Hanging on for Dear Life" Looks Like... ", which doesn't even really reflect the tone of the video and is a 180 of the tone of the original title.
Tomorrow: " why Intel deserves a reach around"
lmao
@J M Intel has a long history of "you get what you get and you'll love it" mentality. They felt untouchable and too far ahead to worry about competition. It has bit them in the butt and now they look like clowns. I have never been an Intel fan, mainly because it felt like a boutique style product. It was always expensive to buy and kind of elitist feeling. AMD was always a refuge for sensible pricing and builds even though they were not perfect. Now that Intel is lagging behind, you have people running out to bash them, in this case with soft gloves so they don't lose that "behind the scenes look" privilege. Competition is great but this limp criticism just to appease the fans is really sad. It's obvious by the sudden title change and the constant ass kissing. I hope Intel comes back better and more competitive in hardware and pricing.
@@Citizen.54 It's funny too. Linus jsut got done with a video about preying INtel would become more competitive, and now releases a video painting their overpriced cpu's in the best light possible while straight up lying about them. Literally showing graphs that disprove his own points. I'll be over here waiting for Ryzen 4000. Hope that check they wrote Linus was worth his integrity.
@@dewaynethomas3122 I watched the entire video, which things is he saying that are disproved in the graphs? Because they seemed to line up fine to me
@J M LTT changes all of their video titles after a while, they've discussed this before, it's a strategy to pull in first-time viewers with sorta clickbaity titles and they switch it to something that more clearly describes the video. They do it for AMD, nVidia - even Dyson!
What is “per 1k” on the pricing?
That's price when buying 1000 units. So price you pay from retailer will be higher
Price per CPU when bought in bolk of 1k cpus
When you make a ton of products at once, your price per unit is less. If you want a single product made in a factory, the price to make that one unit is higher than if you wanted to make many units at once.
It's like freezing ice cubes. You can do 12 cubes together, use a bit more energy, and then have your 12 cubes. Compare that to freezing one cube at a time to make 12 cubes.
Its safe to say u can take the Per 1k price and add 20$ and then u have the real price.
When compared to a 3 year old laptop you bought by the thousand
I already ordered a 10600K since everyone recommends it, good video.
should i buy 10600 or 10600k? will it make significate difference?
@John Smith in the end i bought ryzen 3800x lol
Why did they change the old title? "You will still buy Intel anyway Intel Core i9 10900K & i5 10600K Review" Too much backlash?
backlash combined with the fact that it wasn't even accurate to what was said in the video.
AMD fanboys that's why
Ayyyymd
@@anishgupta8938 did you even watch the video?
95% opinion, 3% Segway to sponsors and 2% facts. That led to the change in title.
Linus: "You’re Still Gonna Buy Intel…"
Me: nope, its too expensive for me to buy new CPU & MB & new CPU cooler & new PSU
250+ Watts!!!
Insanity!
Hmmm... the recent AMD B450 B550 and x570 shennigans shows your point probably doesn't hold water. The x570 is eyewateringly expensive making Intel look cheap.
@@mwnciboo x470 is dirt cheap
imagine being poor
@@mwnciboo AMD already backtracked on that and are now saying that they will support X470 and B450, so that's that.
@@mwnciboo there's absolutely no problem with b450
b450 can support Ryzen 1K/2K/3K/4K(!)
AMD - top CPU performance for it's price
+I don't need to change my silent low profile 140 watt noctua CPU cooler
Doesn’t affect me. Still out of my budget
i know the 3300x is really looking like a good chip for us budget folks though
might finally replace my 8350
O haded an i3, now i i'm with an 1600 :)
AMD Queen of budget. Even more here where i live (brazil)
@Linus Tech Tips Linux, I love you and I have been a long time viewer of your videos but I am extremely disappointed that you left out the 1440p comparison in Gaming. A lot of people are running 1440p these days and moving up from 1080 Med shows how little of a performance gain you are getting over AMD for the price Intel is asking. Steve from Gamers Nexus did the comparison that's why I even realised that going for Intel makes absolutely no sense cost wise right now.
like GN they did 1080 to showcase the difference when the system is not GPU bound.
Wow hold on, at the end of the video when comparing Intel vs AMD prices on similar CPUs, AMDs are listed with *retail* price whereas Intel is in *price per 1k units*, that's not comparable at all !
Intel isn't comparable to AMD anymore. Unless you want to collect on your homeowner's insurance.
Yeah he's an intel shill. No thermals compared, no mention of any cooler.
Desperately trying to get that sponsorship deal.
Yeah i dont enjoy saying this off one of my most beloved channels but..... SHILL ANYONE??
I don't think these chips are available for purchase as of today so the retail price is still unknown. He should have mention it though.
@@Cornelius87 the 10900k is 530 on newegg. But I can't stress this enough, even if it was 430, still wouldn't be worth buying.
woa the opening scene are some firefighters from our Prague in Czechia :D
Ja jsem jednoduchý chlap, když uvidím Česko, dam ti like.
som rád, že aj Češi pozerajú Linusa :D
One of my favorite cities in the whole world!
Doufal jsem že to někdo napíše 😆
Czech Republic for fuck sake, I hate "Czechia". Becherovka driven decision to rebrand the country.
Hey Linus, I just purchased the Ryzen 9 3900x over the i7 9700k for my first build after picking it for gaming and rendering some 3D models, and after watching this video I have never been happier. It seems to perform much better than the i9 10900k at SOME tasks and is listed at a decently lower price! Go team red!
Cooe thanks man! I will be doing a lot of 1080p gaming but I also needed something more well rounded for school work that including some 3D modeling so I think it was a win-win.
Can't wait for Ryzen 4000 to see how they do against Intel's 10th gen, 3rd gen Ryzen was close in gaming to intel's 9th gen and surpasses them in heavy load task and it seems that still do with 10th gen.
@John Smith well if you want to pay that money for a renamed i7 8700k... plus the mobo... But still a good cpu tho.
@John Smith Intel makes good chips that's not a doubt, the issue is the price, unless Intel released a more economic mobo, a decent one cost like 200€, at least they made something good and they are compatible with 11gen; also x470/570 b450 will be with zen3 that's 4 gens, making the users able to upgrade without wasting another 100-200€ extra(unless you want more than cpu power). And heck, you can OC 10900k too.
@John Smith yeah of course, but unless you have money to spare don't know if it's good to waste the same or more on the mobo than on the cpu. I'm not saying to get the cheapest neither. Dunno, that's just up to the consumer. And sorry if I said something that annoyed you, wasn't my intention tho 😅
"these things will be turboing up aggressively under bursty loads"
*plugs fresh pair of underwear from **LTTstore.com*
Not for much longer..
The toilet humour on this channel is interesting at times to say the least. (:
Zombieload 2.0 included
@@Supremax67 Proof?
@@wysetech2000 -- Google the articles, they are no shortage of them.
1:46 I thought my screen rotated upside down somehow
Ctrl + Alt + ArrowDown :D
(In case you're using intel graphics. Don't actually know if amd/nvidiva have the same feature)
Intel: I have won the CPU war.
AMD with Ryzen 4000 nearly ready to launch: *Well yes, but actually no.*
Yesn't
Probably more so of a battle win, the war will drag on forever.
Intel just has way more money they can throw at R & D to be killed so easily.
exactly, intel is a year behind
Lol yups
I highly doubt the 4000 will launch and somehow destroy that almost 30-40 fps gap in some games.
I think 4000 will just be allot closer to where no one really cares, even high refresh people. But, we'll see.
I love your current hair style :) keep it up buddy. Take care of health ❣️
"You’re Still Gonna Buy Intel", Naw dude, I don't think I will.
Overpriced and a day late... most people are just waiting for AMD's Zen3/4000 series at this point.
definitely Not true.... i guess you never learned that you get what you pay for, also perfection takes time.
@@DrGibs347 exactly you get what you paid for ..thats why people buy apple products not because they are worth the money you paid for .but because apple make them believe they get what they paid for ..
@@DrGibs347 Reality has been hard for Intel fanboys eeh?
@@Pit_1209 LMAOOO must be
@@DrGibs347 Perfection becomes sort of a joke when it's confronted with innovation.
"peaking at over 220W" but the graph clearly shows it peaks just above 250W?
Yes that's what over means
@@ashleynewton9083 Then I can say that the cpu is peaking at over 90W.
@@Pathos991 isnt it what intel was doing for sometime with their tdps??
@@Just_Pele Lmao are people unironically upset about that? No matter what team red does you'll bitch anyway 🤣
@@Pathos991 Your username makes me wish we bombed Japan at least 4 more times
5:56 The values in yellow are of the place there need to be i.e 4,719 is past 5,000 mark?