Curt Biddick - The Masters of The Air Scene Too Tragic To Be Shown To Audiences
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- *I know I made a mistake with the year 1934*
Curtis Biddick was killed in Episode 3 of Master of The Air but his final moments were a lot worse than what was shown.
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When I asked my grandfather why he became a Marine, rather than RAF. "Because if we got hit, I know I can swim, but I can't fly".
Goes without saying. A sinking ship you can escape, a burning aircraft is a whole other story.
@@AngryMarine-il6ej its ironic, he did a shitload of combat jumps throughout the war being special forces/intelligence. He said glider landings were one of the scariest things he ever experienced... Which says something coming from a Commando.
In the Royal Navy it was a joke that submariners were paid more than aircrew...because "what goes up must come down, but what goes down won't necessarily come back up."
No idea if that's true :)
@@richardsimpson3792 Lots of subs are now on what submariners call, "The Eternal patrol."
As a Missourian, thank you for your service and Ultimate sacrifice for America, we will never forget you! God Bless you all.
It was actually worse than your video suggests. Snyder was the infamous "man on the burning wing". He climbed out of the cockpit window directly onto the burning wing, where he stood - in the flames - for an unknown length of time before those who survived and witnessed the incident lost sight of him. From memory, one person - I cant remember if it was US aircrew or a german pilot - reported that Snyder did activate his parachute from the wing but it got caught on the tailplane. There has been a lot of debate about the accuracy of that report which is why when Snyder is mentioned theres always the debate about "did he or didnt he?". Thats also why no-one can definitively say whether he used his parachute.
The incident was so horrific that even some german pilots reported it in their after action reports and he became, in the german reports, "the man on the burning wing". None of the german pilots knew Snyder's name so they all referred to him as "the man on the burning wing' in their after action reports. At least one german pilot would state after the war that he was so disturbed by witnessing Snyder standing on the B17s wing in the flames that he broke off his attacks on the B17 formation.
There has been some debate over the years about whether the man on the burning wing was actually Biddick but thats considered highly unlikely for various reasons.
Details of this incident are related in various books about the schweingfurt regensberg raid - which was an extraordinary mission (and a complete failure), although the tv series doesnt give any of that detail. You can find details of the man on the burning wing in most of those books, but - one reference: The Schweinfurt-Regensburg Raid by the historian Martin Middlebrook.
It was a 'false surrender" incident on the same raid that made the crews of the 100th bomb group believe for the rest of the war that german pilots were deliberately targeting them as revenge for that incident. However, that belief was never correct. The germans were angry about the false surrender incident (which resulted in 2 or 3 german fighters being shot down) but they did accept it was an accident (the comms between the cockpit and the rear gunners had been severed so the waist and tail gunners didnt know their B17 had lowered its wheels in surrender), and, as german survivors pointed out to historians, they never had time to look for the insignia on bombers. They just shot at whatever was in front of them. The 100th's reputation as the "Bloody 100th" - the US bomb group with the heaviest casualties of the war - was pure bad luck.
postscript: I checked and it was actually Egan who reported that Snyder had deployed his parachute. Because of that, Snyder was listed as MIA.
Subscribed Thank you for telling these brave mens story. I knew many of them having joined the 8th AAF Historical society back in 1991. I am proud to see my friends will not be forgotten. All the men I personally knew are all gone now but because of people like you their not going to be forgotten.
Welcome aboard.
Recently finished the book Guns at Last Light, by Rick Atkinson, he mentions hardly any other country had the wherewithal to ship remains of servicemen like the United States did.
It’s a trilogy.Read the other 2.
You are right. Here in Belgium we have 2 WWII cemeteries (Henri-Chapelle American Cemetery and Ardennes American Cemetery), almost 13 thousand fallen are resting in the hallowed grounds. The effort that was made to find, identify and bury these heroes is impressive. What is also impressive is that the cemeteries are kept in immaculate condition. We Belgians consider it a true honor to have the fallen in our country. Our thankfulness and respect hasn't changed since 1944. We consider it our duty to keep their memory alive and to tell young people what the price of freedom is. Time will not dim the glory of their deeds. May God bless the men and women of the United States Armed Forces. A humble and grateful Belgian, who's grandfather was liberated from a German labor camp by the US 1st Division.
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1st Infantry Division 84 to 86.
"No mission too difficult, no sacrifice too great, duty first!!!"
@@dukecraig2402 Thank you for your service
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I appreciate the sentiment but no thanks are necessary, it was a privilege and an honor to wear the uniform of my country and those who came before me, just enjoy your freedoms and don't tread on others, that's thanks enough for me.
Love your videos,because you use FACTS,and not heresay.
I appreciate that!
As a Brit born into a relatively peaceful Europe I can only say that all of us nations allied in Europe against the axis owe a debt to the rest of the world that we recognise can never be repaid, in particular to the men and women of both the US and Canada who could have turned their backs on us in our time of desperate need but steadfastly came to our aid at such a high cost.
My never ending gratitude means nothing against such a cost borne by an entire generation, especially so soon after the war to end all wars.
My life lived in peace is thanks to that generation of heroes and I include those on the home front as well as this was total war, the likes of which I pray is never seen again.
Ben, as a 4th generation American soldier, I appreciate your sentiments. I am also not only a history buf, but also just a plain ole historian. Here is the TRUTH unadulterated... NONE of the Allies could've succeeded without the other. What are considered "little skirmishes" by some, like the war fought in Greece and Crete by the OSS ( Later CIA ) and the SOE ( British Special Operations Executive later MI 6) tied down SEVERAL German divisions that MIGHT HAVE turned the tide against the Soviets on the Eastern fron. In turn, if the Soviets had not absorbed the number of German divisions they had, the Allies probably would not have been able to invade Europe as quickly as they did with Anvil ( Sicily ), Avalanche ( Itlay ), then Overlord ( France ) . WE here in the US came VERY close to losing in the Pacific if we had not lucked out at Midway. That battle was much closer than a lot of people realized. Skill and luck though are GREAT combat multipliers. With that victory in the Summer of 42 it gave us time to crank up our war production and deliver relief in later 42 with Operation Torch in Morocco. It is all so interconnected that NO ONE nation can claim to have been more important than another. While the Russians in paricular paid the highest human cost in total numbers, the saying "All gave some, some gave ALL", applies. If your STUBBORN and TENACIOUS island had not've held out, we might ALL be speaking German right now. So you take a bow too Ben, we owe YOU and your countryman a debt we cannot repay either.
@@lawrencefields7874 Absolutely spot on brother. (22 years Royal Navy 1988-2010)
The one they missed that’s in the book, I believe they should have shown as more than anything else it demonstrates the horror.
A B-17 returned with damage the landing gear would not extend and the belly turret was jammed in a position that the gunner could not extract.
Everyone knew what was going to happen the base watched, the crew knew including the victim.
The landing was horrific I think they should have shown that in the series.
Another tragedy in war the only way to honour is to show the truth.
It is shown in a couple other movies
@@StacyThornhill Notably the 1990 film "Memphis Belle"
That was covered in WWII In HD, it was actually Andy Rooney reports, there's so much this series missed it feels like a crime.
@@mihajlo961x no not that movie as the ending is much more pleasant
@@saucejohnson9862 I agree, I had hoped they would combine the books as they did with The Pacific. I feel the fighter story would have been much better weaved in. I’d have preferred to see more of that over the prison camp story
@1:29min the narrator mistakenly say '1934'. He clearly means '1944".
Love your channel brother. You give sobering and grounded information on the heroic deeds without glorifying the horror that these people faced. We will NEVER be able to say thank you enough to this generation of warriors. Warriors not only from the US, but Canada, Australia, UK, Russia, Poland, France and yes even Germany, Italy, and Japan and countless other nations. It was a true age of heroes whether they were men, women, or children. You really do them all justice. Thank you VERY MUCH for your channel.
There was a ton left out of this series. It had such promise but instead it drove off the plot cliff.
Thanks again, Take care, keep safe.
Thanks, will do!
Thanks again. Well done.
Thank you too!
Well done? Pfff. Listen to 1:27 and then tell me you think this was well done.
@@johnmohanmusic never make any mistakes in your life?
If we learned one thing from the 20th century, please tell me what that is.
I’ve seen the series twice now, and it’s been obvious to me both times that he died in that plane crash depicted in the show. I didn’t realize others hadn’t thought that.
I have to be honest and say that I wasn't sure. I did only watch it once however.
1:10. It wasn’t Dyce Aberdeen, it was at Cairnbulg beside Fraserburgh NE Scotland. You can still see that old WW2 aerodrome on google maps.
I did notice that the narrator said the raid was on August 17th 1934 not 1945 😳maybe that’s why Hitler was pissed. The 100th bomb group was doing raids 5 years before the war started
August 17th, 1943. By August 1945 the war was over.
I meant ‘43 was a typo but if you listen to the narrator he clearly says 1934, 5 years before the war started and 9 years before the actual raid.
@@brettprince1528I agree, small detail, but proofreading is essential.
@@brettprince1528You should study your history a little more
A decade is not two years nor is the opposite the same.
No good deed goes unpunished
All gave some...some gave all. May they rest in eternal peace and their sacrifices never be forgotten.
thank you for sharing such a real story
Thanks for listening
The creators choosing not to depict his death isn't censoring. Someone can censor someone else's work, you can't censor your own work, unless you filmed what happened and played it, then bleeped out the dialogue and blacked out the scene.
How would you title the video?
@@War_And_Truth left out, cut out, too tragic for audiences. I sympathize, I am a creator also, sorry.
@@skowog too tragic for audiences sounds good. Ill change it.
@@War_And_Truth Great job on the video by the way, subscribed!
@@skowog Cheers
He shouldn't have even been flying that plane. That's how random war is.
So many daring tales of brave men and women of that time. When being 25 was considered being an 'old man', it was certainly a different time. I always enjoyed reading the old British 'Commando' comics, which I still think they issue to this day. I have kept all mine from. the early 80's, and even as recent as the late 90's, as I do with all books, comics...and almost everything to be honest. I have not read any for some years, perhaps time to open the box again. Read my old Phantom comics as well.
Who is old enough to remember going to see Memphis Belle at the cinema's? I also recall as 'amazing tales' kind of program, which had Kevin Kostner as the pilot of B52, which had its belly gunner stuck, but they also had no landing gear, so to save the crew, they also had to sacrifice the belly gunner! I won't spoil the ending in case anyone looks it up.
Great Job! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
You couldn't tell from that crash that he was dead? Duh.
lol
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Great response😂
1934?
If that was my only mistake I'm doing ok.
Hey man, I understand. I’m a bit dyslexic also…
OUTSTANDING!!!
Does nobody read the books? We knew this series was coming for years. Nothing should have been a surprise
If they did, the CGI world probably have been laughable.
At 1:29 the video states that Biddick flew over Schweinfurt/Regensburg in 1934. This is clearly incorrect since the tombstone of the 3 crewmen definitely shows August 17th, 1943. The 4 and the 3 must have been transposed in the script.
Of course they didnt bomb Germany 5 years before the war started. Its a typo.
@@War_And_Truth I think that's what I said.
We cannot comprehend the sacrifices all the allied aircrew made to free the world from Nazi tyranny - I sometimes think we do not deserve what you all did for us
Europe was saved from Nazis, but
August 17, 1934 huh? Did it sound weird to say that, or was that a typo that the AI narrator read?
Typo. Its in the description.
SGT James Bair was a pilot? As a Sergeant? Or did I misunderstand?
He was a radio operator, I have just worded it badly
In the RAF they had Sergeant Pilots...mostly in fighters, but in some larger planes too.
And you could have a bomber with a Sergeant in the pilot's seat, and a commissioned officer as a Navigator or similar. In the aircraft, the pilot was still the commander.
In the German bombers, the aircraft commander was usually the navigator...which kind of made sense in theory because the navigator tells the pilot where to fly. But in combat situations, it's probably better for the pilot to decide what to do rather than wait for an order.
at 1:30 you said "1934" instead of "1943".
Yes that can happen. Band of Brothers made mistakes with 120 million budget. Mine is $0
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BoB got the date of h!tL€R death wrong so... yeah.
AT 1:30 August 17 1934? Perhaps 1943
Typo
Schweinfurt was NOT in 1934. Robot voices are offensive.
Did you notice he said Re- jensburg ?
Read the description buddy. Its probably because I am not a robot that I make mistakes.
August 17, 1934?
Read the description
Subscribed. I'm in. WTYFYS.
Welcome aboard
At 1:26, you surely meant "1944".
Yes
Check your time frame. We weren’t at war in 1934.
Read the description
Thanks for sharing this. Regarding the three aircrew buried together with mixed bones, I wonder if today's DNA testing could separate the remains so they could each be buried close to their hometowns.
I wondered the same thing. I think the families had a an agreement to not mess with them again.
1:27 1934 ! ! !
Read the description
Moving.
You mean 1944 not 34
Yes I realize the US wasn't bombing Germany 5 years before the war started
Actually, 1943.
1:35... 1934?
Its an error. I am aware the US weren't bombing Germany 5 years before WW2 started.
These men were just late teens and very early 20's.
This same age group today has no clue what sacrifice and love of country truly is.
Neither did they before the US entered WW2. They expected to live ordinary lives. There was nothing superhuman or near godly about the servicemen of WW2 - I'm probably a lot older than you and I knew a lot of them in the 1950s and 1960s. They didn't think they did anything other than what they had to do, and many would have avoided it if they could, they didn't want to get involved with kill-or-be-killed, but they had to. Why are so determined to downgrade people living in the 21stC? Ask a few Ukrainians about sacrifice for their country.
1934?
Typo
Barry Keoghan - pronounced 'kee-own'
Or......Keegan
1934 Regensburg raid? I think not. Try 1944
Its obviously a mistake. Do you think I thought they were flying there 5 years before the war even started?
@@War_And_Truth I hope not
Try 1943
Yeh, kinda harsh. Just point out errors. Perfect people ought have mercy on we the imperfect.
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Not 1934 !
Read the description
Me thinks 1944 not 1934
Typo
I couldn't watch Masters of the Air. No characters development, no story development, you feel no attachment to the characters portrayed since you're just slapped with them and is all rushed to combat scenes. Also the over use of CGI dulled it and ruined the experience.
Band of Brothers remains the one, only and greatest WWII series of them all.
Everyone focusing on a grammatical error like fake astute, grammar nazis. youtube vultures
Cite sources, this is read almost word for word from what I just read elsewhere.
If its youtube then its a copy of my video. There are channels popping up almost daily cloning other videos from numerous channels.
I dont have to give sources btw, does Mark Felton provide them? Yarnhub?
One of these we’ll have artificial intelligence (AI) that can correctly pronounce names and cities.
Do humans do any better? Im Australian, I don't know how to write the text to pronounce a lot of European cities correctly.
Do you know how to pronounce Wulkuraka?
@@War_And_Truth I'd rather hear a real, live human with an Aussie accent butcher city names than an AI Robovoice.
@@GrizzAxxemann Well buddy I'm deaf/mute so that's not going to happen.
@@War_And_Truth Do you think somebody would/should review before posting?
@@tomspencer1436 Not sure what you mean sorry
He was cukked by the dreadful woke interject that was put into this show. It was to diminish the utter bravery and sacrifice these young men made. Something we are being stripped of acknowledging.
Who asked?
WUT
@@JoshuaTootell The real story of Curt Riddick in brief. He stayed piloting the plane so the crew including his co pilot could get out. The co pilots name was changed in this dire tv show. But he managed to get out and onto the wing where he jumped only to be cut in half by the tail. Riddick's plane was heading towards a village and the reports from other bomber crews were that he purposefully steered his plane into a field to avoid any civilian casualties. There are many other examples of how down graded this show was so as not to over play the courage of these young men but interject utter fiction in order to appease DEI directives current in entertainment.
Horrible show.. sucked from episode one and continued until it finished.
Savage mofoes..........