You may put me on a cross and crucify me I will be a maytr for saying this CNC Rivals is the best RTS on mobile and closest to the original CNC while keeping it "light" and fast With quite reasonable monotization Ya'll shit on that game non stop but, as someone whos gone up to the front door of tiberium leauge and only spend...two dollars? Its been a blaast But go ahead and be sad about these games, just be fair(er) to rivals Edit: I saw the ending and rivals mentioned now lol my bad Extra point: They could've just ported a 75 pop version of aoe 2DE with the xbox controls and printed money lol
I agree brother compared to the other rise of kingdom knock off slop games rivals is good and honestly the gameplay itself is also just fun while not being overly monetized
It's a really good mobile game. I reinstall it every now and then, get a high ranking until I start fighting with people 10x my level with pretty much everything unlocked, then I uninstall it and come back a few months later. haha
@@AntonioZL Look the game gives you "challenge" matchups It basically says Bro matchmaking is bad, heres a hard nut for you If you win, you get double the coins and medals as usual (xp too if you care) If not then you lose 0 medals AT that point try a cheeky rush or just mess around. Or if you want to be a lime you can just quit lol there is 0 penalty to losses However if your opponent has 1-3 level gap then its as usual Thats why I sorta got stuck at early tiberium, there is a gap but until then its fine.
Of course it would be a "city building with obligatory, unavoidable PvP". Every "Real Time Strategy" game on mobile is pretty much this. That one Viking game comes to mind.
I mean shit, someone ripped off Frostpunk in this style, and I'm still angry about that (although if my anger is because it exists or because I actually played it, I can't tell you)
I joined for the PVP, and yeah having quit now that my server has been killed by whales I don't think it would have been bad overall if the monetization, power creep of whales, and toxic nature's of pvp power could have been kept in check
I really can't understand who plays their games? They're like Donald Trump of video game industry. Everything they touch turns to s***. Like... I used to play League of Legends, only to get dropped from Diamond 1 to Plat 3 after Tencent bought whole ownership of the company and started to prioritize those who burn ton of money on their games, and apparently I wasn't paying enough to keep my "toxicity" of just telling other toxic people "stfu and play". And I'm someone who's played Dota 2 sine beta and never got a single ban. God bless Gaben. Heroes of the Storm too started promising because it was long developed project (restarted multiple times) during the time of Blizzard not joining up with Activision... and then that merger happened and they had to make casual cash grab with bad monetization, so the rich capitalist do nothing companies just absorb these smaller companies and turn every product to s***, hoping to create a monopoly of the industry with the marketing that they can keep squeezing every cent from the poor consumers. God have mercy on anyone who plays this game or anything similar like Dungeon Keeper mobile. May their souls be freed from this demonic software.
Mobile developers have this style of game nailed down to science. They can drape the skin of ANY IP over their money-sucking "game frame" and make billions. People literally write papers on the psychological tricks used in mobile games like these. Very much not surprised it happened with Age of Empires. Takes one hell of a moral backbone to resist free billions of dollars. Sad.
I just stopped seeing mobile gaming as a form of gaming a long time ago, like once games like Snake and co started dying out in favour of Angry Birds and flappy bird, I knew the platform was going to get treated like a free money printing machine, and that ideal hasn't stopped being a thing since then. ppl need to stop seeing mobile gaming as any semblance of gaming. You're basically putting yourself onto a hamster wheel, only you're also trapped within a skinners box and socially engineered to pay more money over time, while getting prodded with that "wait time" stick. To me that isn't gaming, that's just wallet and psychological abuse over a slow period of time.
@@dirge7459 i mean there ARE some good mobile games out there, including ports of older console games. There's minecraft and terraria, a bunch of final fantasy ports. Crashlands, etc. And for action games, there's CoD mobile and PUBG mobile, not to mention Fortnite mobile. Roblox on mobile is identical to its PC counterpart, if you're into that. I'll even say that while i typically HATE this style of game, the "4x Game of War" style game, there have been some good ones to come along from time to time. Rise of Kingdoms was fun for a time, and Call of Dragons was some of the most fun i've had in a while, partly because it was a "world of warcraft" clone of Rise of Kingdoms, so i liked the style of it, but mostly because i randomly landed into one of the top clans on the server, which meant i got lots of free stuff because the clan was full of whales, and some of the battles we would get into were just amazing fun. Talking about 200 players sending troops back and forth, with generals, captains, team leaders, etc etc. Just an insane amount of fun. That game also allowed you to go from tutorial to battle-ready, for free, within 2 days, whereas others, including Rise of Kingdoms, and especially some others like the Mafia ones, would take a week or longer for f2p players. Even the new EVE Galaxy Conquest game, which is also this style of 4x game, but set in space, is taking way too long to get to the good part. Sitting through 14 hour timers multiple times, running out of stamina every few hours, to finally get to where you're battling a clan, is too much. Most clans won't even get that far because most of their members will quit. If you get into a good clan that can survive the timers, you're in for a good time. That being said, it's never worth spending more than a couple of bucks on these games, and honestly, i'd just enjoy the experience once on one of them, and never look back. The game will die within a few weeks anyway, and then they have to create an entirely new version of it (with new IP) in order to gather more players. EDIT: i think that's why these games are so successful, is that if you play them in a way that keeps you ahead of the curve, as in, you and your clan are somewhere on the leaderboards, at least the top 25-50%, then you could be in for a really fun time when the battling starts. But, you must sit through tons of timers and pointless mini-games until then. But i think many people, especially whales, have had a touch of this fun war stuff at some point with any one of hte hundreds of these clones out there, and that is what they're chasing: their next "fix" for this insane war-like gameplay, that really is quite unique to this genre of game. it's just a shame that because of all of the timers and cash-shop stuff, that most players will actually never experience it, likely ever. they'll quit when they see it takes 4 hours to upgrade their barracks.
I was hooked to NFS No Limits, basically spent around 60-100$ over the course of a year for boosts and cars. The whole thing was an addictive gameplay loop without any meaning. I liked the idea of progressing but it was so minimal and slow after a couple of months without putting in real money, and when I purchased stuff it was basically 20$ packs for skipping 4 hours of grind. Most good cars were timed, you had to go in with the marketing train for any new vehicle/timed event to even get any rewards in the PVP. Then they removed the ability to grind for normal currency in such events just to make it frustrating without spending gold. I deleted the thing, never went back. It was a bummer because it reminded me of NFS MW
what's funny is that the age of empires mobile game for java old phones was legit an Age of Empires 2 demake w limited unit count and actually great gameplay that played like the pc version but on flip phones and it slapped! it was great! it's sad that this is a predatory cashgrab like so many other "strategy" mobile games out there
Oh man, I remember enjoying the hell out of the Java version of AoE 3; it's what got me interested in AoE in the first place! It's such a shame, the average modern phones are so powerful they can run older pc games, like Max Payne, Company of Heroes, XCOM, etc, but the mobile game market is dominated by predatory, microtransaction-ridden mess. So much potential, wasted.
@@BaDitO2 good to see u , yeah I was hoping none of the 2 parties would win just to piss off both dems and republicans but that sadly didn't come to be true , I guess trying to shoot ur opponent and making economy suck and all other crap makes opposition a better option to the average Americano
@@FloosWorld_AoE there wasn't really anything out of ordinary in the video there so NDA breach was likely due to payout rant after not getting paid. They didn't have to kick him out but Microsoft chose to do it. NDA breach based on that video seems more of excuse than actual reason. What else was Age of Noob supposed to do? Say nothing and let you get ripped off? It is extremely scummy to contact to do sponsorship with creator who isn't eligible for payout of said sponsorship
@@Tempires He went about the payment infos in detail which was the part that was covered by an NDA. Edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend AoE Mobile - I also consider it awful.
This piece of garbage is the reason why Age of Noob lost his channel. A very informative and interesting channel lost his partnership with Microsoft because he told them that they are scambags straight at their faces. I guess even Microsoft cannot say no to that juicy Chinese money.
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568I didn't know what happened to his channel until I read the comments today. I'm very well remembered his video about aoem but I've checking it today and that video seems... gone? I'm always wondered why he is not uploading for long time and no particular announcement from the channel either. That's unfortunate, for him and for us all.
He lost it for breaching NDA, he fucked up. He was allowed to speak ill of the game, he wasn't allowed to leak certain information in the NDA clause, which he did.
the moment i see that upgrade take minutes to complete, and a button for instant build show up, i immediately uninstall the game. because i know, it's one of those. after you've seen it once, you've seen it all.
Every time I see a mobile adaptation of an RTS series turn out to be a shameless moneygrubbing scheme, it makes me more appreciative of how faithful Feral's mobile version of Total War is.
Don't forget Worldbox. I actually hope more mobile game adopted their system and improved it to make interesting rts and turn base civ game instead making another rise of king clone
Agreed. What makes me even more sad is that they're not making their games like this just because they're dumb or evil. It's because games like this make them tons of money. Mobile games earn more than PC and all consoles combined. Someone is buying the shit out of them - but who are all those people? I've never met anyone like this in my whole life.
@arquebusier1995 I mean I have had some fun with a couple of mobile games. But 1, I'm glad I've never spent any money on them, and 2, even at their best, it's just nowhere near as fun as computer games.
The fact I actually got TWO ADS for age of empires mobile while watching this video tells me everything I need to know about where the money and effort went
What? C&C Rivals and every later mobile in C&C is garbage like everything from EA. TW...only on tablets if we're talking mobile. But I still go with PC forever.
@@CommanderBohn I haven't played Rivals myself, just watched a bit of a retrospective on this channel. Sort of looked like a precursor to Clash Royale, but I don't even know which of those games came out first.
Who would've expected this to become another whale fishing frontend? These kinds of games exist purely for profit, and we have to deal with the mobile marked being 90% these.
1:26 wouldn't say Age of Empires needed a redemption Arc. AoE3 wasn't a universally hated release like say C&C4. Think revival would be a better word. Except for Aoe1 DE. That was a cashgrab.
@@MrJC1 speak for yourself, I spent far more time with 3 than 2 once I had the ability to actually run it. I'll accept that the consensus is that 2 is a better game, the player numbers on DE are evidence enough, but it's not an awful game that nobody plays either.
At 8:27, when the "skill selection" for the vampire survivor rip-off for C&C legions pops up, the symbol for the skill on the very right is literally ripped straight from warframe
As quick as I found out that it is made by Tencent, I knew it.. the ad itself is typical Chinese mobile gaming, with bombastic claims.. unrelated to its gameplay.
Mobile players deserves better games honestly and not just straight up monetization scams. Throughout thousands of mobile games there's only a few that are actually good games. Mobile legends Pubg mobile Cod mobile Arena breakout Apex legends (before it died) Clash royale (before it became a p2w mess) Clash of clans Sure some may be games that were "copied" from PC games but they are like the big games among mobile gaming. Y'all dont have to diss on mobile players, they're humans as well. They deserve a good game like pc players as well.
They did the very same with that Forza mobile game. I wouldn't trust any mobile game that MSFT is involved with. They slap their big franchises onto any cheap mobile game they can get their hands on, then try to make a profit using some of the worst MTX out there.
From what I did digging on my own research on it was the AoE: Mobile was a reskin of an already existing China game. It just got a AoE label slapped onto for the English Version.
I don't get how games like this keep working. I'd have thought all the whales would have been hooked by something already, and everyone else would be wise to the tricks. It's depressing that that doesn't seem to be the case.
It's awful in every single way. And I can't believe how heavy this thing is on performance, heating generation and storage. One 4k character 3d display from this game is as heavy as ALL of aoe3's icons combined It sucks that people are willingly playing this when significantly better options are available in this scam genre such as rise of kingdoms
I remember when I was playing Ragnarok Online in my childhood, and I was playing like 10 000x servers, because nobody in their right mind thought to play in the real servers, the grind would take forever. Ain't nobody got time for that. Well now we all got our answers who's got the time, the Chinese farmers have graduated from farming the rice fields to farming in video games. ...Like I don't get why Asian video RPG games have to be so freaking grindy.... You could probably spend human life playing that game and never surpassing someone's level who's born rich and had 10 000 dollars to burn in day 1. So nice for him to see himself crushing everyone else, like that rich a-hole in Diablo Immortal who was so over leveled to everyone else that he got banned in PvP. Can we just collectively STOP funding these practices? At least put a cap of... even 120 dollars if you have to... but put a CAP. How is this extortion possible in a VIDEO GAME? This isn't a freaking slot machine that has potential to make a money back (granted it's worse odds than any other money making effort like investing on stock or just buying used good and reselling them).
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm back to playing AoE2:DE. If you play mobile games, either NEVER pay for macro-transactions, or only play buy-once-own-forever mobile games with NO in-game transactions.
The really terrifying thing is that the mobile P2W market of games are really successful and are taking over actually well made games on PC and consoles. I can see one day all gaming will be this way and its all because of the whales out there supporting predatory monetisation. Normal gamers are going to get screwed.
I have a conspiracy that the Chinese have a flexible template for any genre and ready asset like the unity store... I recgonize a lot of the element, asset and how the UI structured... I'm from asia so I play a lot of random game. I'm not sure what engine they use but usually it's the same-
Mobile games are the ultimate least common denominator, they are games in name only, commodified and commercialized. If games like SC2 are Rembrandts and Monets, good indie is like the undiscovered local artist that makes it big, mobile "games" are those soulless simulated oil paintings hanging in chain family restaurants. They are the 30 second jingle made for a pharmaceutical advertisement. Not to sound elitist, but anything with no barrier to entry is likely to be garbage. I'm sure there are some decent puzzle games or minimally monetized time wasters, but the opportunity cost of not just shoveling out another gatcha slot machine is too much to stomach for companies, its a license to print money, who would turn that down?
The issue with this comment is the game is 100% free to play. You don't need to spend money. The funny thing is you trash the company making the game but you don't trash the people who spend 10k on the game the day it releases. From what I've seen the mobile game community praises whales so in reality yall are just making your games bad because you willing throw money at cash grab games then talk shit about games you can't beat in a few hours just because you spent money. 😂😂
We all saw it coming. We didn't believe the try hard trailer. TheViper made a video "playing" it to warn against it. The community warned against it but some people still didn't believe it.
Got an ad for a new game promising an "...authentic Age of Empires experience on mobile..." fed to me by UA-cam at the end of the video. Can't wait to check it out! ...Anyways... Great video as always Zade. Looking forward to the next one. Seeing this travesty makes me wish all we were still complaining about AoE online and other browser based RTS games.
Nice review man 👍 This should be seen by the age of empires franchise , an absolute disgrace , as if they are not making enough money out of the e-sports , and now this , feels like they are begging for money , I wouldn't mind paying monthly 5$ just to keep playing the PC version as long as it's not pay to win , or even add some payed skins for different civilization , without hindering the game play . . . But this ??? They are putting to shame a whole industry , years of work , loads of investment . . . 😢 Take exemple of the PUBG experience : started as a PC game , the best of its time , then created a mobile version that gives you the same experience , and made money out of premium skins , while the game is still not pay to win . So it's possible , they just need to listen to their fans and customers more !! Good content bro , wish you all the best 💪
Mobile games is the ultimate Brainrot of the gaming world. All the people gaming on mobile, completely oblivious to real video games simply dosn't know better, and it is these very people that are so immensly profitable for mobile game makers which is why they keep making the lowest of low effort games as long as these "mobile" gamers keep whaling for these type of games. Sadly.
When this game was announced i thought it would be like aoe1 where you could play the original version on a blackberry (circa 2002?) Idk why that game never went on mobile and idk why they can make a remake of those games for mobile
I gotta genuinely thank you because I have received ads for this "game" for a while and wasnt unsure if I should play it or not. Now I know what tragedy I avoided
"we could have seen this coming" I was there when they announced the game on the anniversary stream, most people back then arleady assumed it would be a trashy cashgrab.
Now l don't know if this was a fever dream but I remember playing an actual AOE RTS on my Nokia N95 some 15 odd years ago. Please developers can we just have an actual RTS game for phones.
Can't say I'm surprised given both the developer and the general state of mobile 'gaming'. It is a shame though. Imagine how much they could have actually done with one of RTS' most iconic and respected IPs. The squandered potential, more than anything else, is what hurts the most here.
5:14 Yeah I believe C&C Legions is the same. it was a game that changed names twice and put on a C&C skin on the first or second name change IIRC, then, the game still being in alpha, EA accepted to "license" C&C over to the devs (seeing as how they were gonna "steal" it anyway and China has no copyright laws) and I believe Level Infinite picked it up? Something like that. I didn't follow its development close enough to confirm, but this is what biased take I have from what I've heard and seen.
The funniest thing to me is that somehow, people are still surprised when mobile games turn out to be shit even after all these years and all the examples of these skinnerboxes.
@@LuigianoMariano I kinda got it why back then, the game truly went P2W, people didn't like the artstyle either, however they fixed that and gave a fair balanced F2P model. Good thing that Project Celeste revived it.
It really bothering me that the smartphone technology nowadays can run a game that close to a PC mechanics, gameplay and graphics yet there's no proper RTS game released. It's like Mobile game devs always thinking about printing money as fast as possible with those microtransaction and live service throught their cheap knock-off games. Even the old mobile game Age of Empire java is way more better than these new knock-off AoE.
I remember COD mobile and people telling me it is just like playing on console. It didn't feel that way to me. I don't even like the feel of RTS on console. An RTS on mobile just won't work.
Age of Empires mobile is not an RTS. It's not a question of the controls not translating but them deciding to go for a no fun just pure monetization formula.
The ads were the worst thing about this game. Disrespecting the players of AoE 2 and claiming to be fans of it at the same time were a massive red flag.
Saw Age of empires mobile, went to download it. Unavailable in ur country, I became sad. Came to utube to check whats it like, glad its not available in my country.
I immediately recognized the fake strategy "Rise of Kingdoms" UI. Mobile strategy is an oxymoron. These games have 0 strategy in them. Heck, not even as basic as Clash of Clans.
look this game up ' ART OF WAR 3 GLOBAL CONFLICT'. A mobile rts game consisting of two different factions with their own unique playstyle. yes, the game is not perfect , but you do not have to be a pay to win dud to enjoy it. though you can spend money to boost your upgrades which would make your units stronger and yadayada. pls check it out if since it if one of the better rts games on mobile compared to other trash. one more thing, the game has good attention from the devs so it recieves updates regularly, like new units(heroes), etc.
After years of ads of AoE clones, the moment I saw the AoE Mobile ad, I had bet Microsoft soft had bought out one of these "studios". Turns out I was correct.
Apart from the predatory MTX "Art of War 3" provides actual RTS gameplay on mobile. I don't play it much anymore though because if I've got the time for an RTS match I may as well use my computer.
Thanks you for an honest review!! I have been wanting a good age of of empires that would be true to the game!! Sad to see that they won't even if we have higher technology!!
I remember seeing an ad for this game that had a roman legionary doing some over the top fighting animation while holding a pilum. They called it a "lancer"... That told me enough about how much (or rather little) thought and care was put into this game.
I had to bblock like 8 ads about this game, it only made me hate it, i even started to hate the original age of empire by just how annoying their ads are.
@8:27 yes, the only thing age of empires mobile is missing are dragons; lots of fantasy themed games throw in dragon shit to hatch eggs and raise dragons, every mechanic is added as something to monetize. It also means they can show off gameplay footage that isnt as misleading because its IN THE GAME its just not a big part of it.
I'm playing it, but you nailed it. Fortunately for me, I knew this game would be a revamp of the original Clash of Clans, just like every other "strategy" game on mobile.
Have you ever heard or played the Nintendo DS Age of Empires version? I actually enjoyed it so much as a kid and i think a similar concept (it was round based) would totally work on phones today.
I literally play zero mobile games, because all of them have 3,355 different "stores" in the UI, everything from barns, to chests, to lockers, to storage, to pockets, etc. and 5,000 different type of in-game currencies, just so you have 5,000 different ways to pay them money.
im truly heartbroken when finding out they made the legend of RTS of all time into a moneygrubbing game like Rise of Kingdoms...., at least Total war series and Company of heroes didnt destroy my expectation of them
Whenever I am interested in a game with online multiplayer mechanics, the first thing I do is check who developed the game and what country they are from. If it’s China especially China that’s automatically a big NO for me.
You may put me on a cross and crucify me
I will be a maytr for saying this
CNC Rivals is the best RTS on mobile and closest to the original CNC while keeping it "light" and fast
With quite reasonable monotization
Ya'll shit on that game non stop but, as someone whos gone up to the front door of tiberium leauge and only spend...two dollars? Its been a blaast
But go ahead and be sad about these games, just be fair(er) to rivals
Edit: I saw the ending and rivals mentioned now lol my bad
Extra point: They could've just ported a 75 pop version of aoe 2DE with the xbox controls and printed money lol
No you are correct. CNC rivals is a great game
I'll fight beside you on this
There is Northgard, Company of Heroes or Total War, those are great games on mobile not the Rivals dumped down experience for morons.
I agree brother compared to the other rise of kingdom knock off slop games rivals is good and honestly the gameplay itself is also just fun while not being overly monetized
It's a really good mobile game. I reinstall it every now and then, get a high ranking until I start fighting with people 10x my level with pretty much everything unlocked, then I uninstall it and come back a few months later. haha
@@AntonioZL
Look the game gives you "challenge" matchups
It basically says
Bro matchmaking is bad, heres a hard nut for you
If you win, you get double the coins and medals as usual (xp too if you care)
If not then you lose 0 medals
AT that point try a cheeky rush or just mess around.
Or if you want to be a lime you can just quit lol there is 0 penalty to losses
However if your opponent has 1-3 level gap then its as usual
Thats why I sorta got stuck at early tiberium, there is a gap but until then its fine.
As soon as the mobile publisher claims to be fans of the original series in professional quality advertisements you're going to get this.
Especially Asians who never had a pc in their childhood
Yeah 😂, corporate scripted words before you can publish it
The ads just like cheap scam, aoe mobile are scam 🗑️
@@Minifutzi_o.O
Correction, it's "chinese mobile devs".
Japan has lots of great single player games.
@@Nicholas_Foong69 a few sure most of them are garbage
It boggles the mind how powerful phones are these days yet I play zero games on them because they all suck
There are good games out there. Not very many, but they exist.
Guardian Tales is cool
Emulators...
Civ 6 is on mobile you could buy it
Wild rift codm pubg r6s , psp emulator and many more
Of course it would be a "city building with obligatory, unavoidable PvP". Every "Real Time Strategy" game on mobile is pretty much this. That one Viking game comes to mind.
I mean shit, someone ripped off Frostpunk in this style, and I'm still angry about that (although if my anger is because it exists or because I actually played it, I can't tell you)
Whales will only toss their wallet at you if they can curbstomp people in Pay to Win PvP afterall.
All this development time just to make Game of War: Fire age again
I joined for the PVP, and yeah having quit now that my server has been killed by whales I don't think it would have been bad overall if the monetization, power creep of whales, and toxic nature's of pvp power could have been kept in check
THATS TRASH THE ONLY ONE I ACTUAÉÉY LIKE IS RISE OF KINDOMS THATS GOOFY AND FUNNY
'Tencent'
Hoboy, this won't go well.
Never trust that company.
I really can't understand who plays their games? They're like Donald Trump of video game industry. Everything they touch turns to s***.
Like... I used to play League of Legends, only to get dropped from Diamond 1 to Plat 3 after Tencent bought whole ownership of the company and started to prioritize those who burn ton of money on their games, and apparently I wasn't paying enough to keep my "toxicity" of just telling other toxic people "stfu and play". And I'm someone who's played Dota 2 sine beta and never got a single ban. God bless Gaben.
Heroes of the Storm too started promising because it was long developed project (restarted multiple times) during the time of Blizzard not joining up with Activision... and then that merger happened and they had to make casual cash grab with bad monetization, so the rich capitalist do nothing companies just absorb these smaller companies and turn every product to s***, hoping to create a monopoly of the industry with the marketing that they can keep squeezing every cent from the poor consumers.
God have mercy on anyone who plays this game or anything similar like Dungeon Keeper mobile. May their souls be freed from this demonic software.
@MaKi-e3h they typical predatory multinational company.
They maybe don't intervene first but everything turn shit when they started to intervene
@@MaKi-e3hDonald trump is as already president and it was good
@@Cronrath64 We'll see in 4 years, my prediction is that it's going to be much worse than his first term
You know a game is bad when you see its ads every fckin minutes on all platforms
True that
I swear there is a 100 games that look and play exactly like this
There is one game that has similarity like this on mobile and I highly recommend it, *Theotown"
Because they all use the same formulas to milk the consumers as much as possible
Mobile developers have this style of game nailed down to science. They can drape the skin of ANY IP over their money-sucking "game frame" and make billions. People literally write papers on the psychological tricks used in mobile games like these.
Very much not surprised it happened with Age of Empires. Takes one hell of a moral backbone to resist free billions of dollars. Sad.
I'm not even sad. I literally feel nothing from this. No use in getting sad over something that you can't stop.
I just stopped seeing mobile gaming as a form of gaming a long time ago, like once games like Snake and co started dying out in favour of Angry Birds and flappy bird, I knew the platform was going to get treated like a free money printing machine, and that ideal hasn't stopped being a thing since then.
ppl need to stop seeing mobile gaming as any semblance of gaming. You're basically putting yourself onto a hamster wheel, only you're also trapped within a skinners box and socially engineered to pay more money over time, while getting prodded with that "wait time" stick. To me that isn't gaming, that's just wallet and psychological abuse over a slow period of time.
@@dirge7459 i mean there ARE some good mobile games out there, including ports of older console games. There's minecraft and terraria, a bunch of final fantasy ports. Crashlands, etc. And for action games, there's CoD mobile and PUBG mobile, not to mention Fortnite mobile. Roblox on mobile is identical to its PC counterpart, if you're into that.
I'll even say that while i typically HATE this style of game, the "4x Game of War" style game, there have been some good ones to come along from time to time. Rise of Kingdoms was fun for a time, and Call of Dragons was some of the most fun i've had in a while, partly because it was a "world of warcraft" clone of Rise of Kingdoms, so i liked the style of it, but mostly because i randomly landed into one of the top clans on the server, which meant i got lots of free stuff because the clan was full of whales, and some of the battles we would get into were just amazing fun. Talking about 200 players sending troops back and forth, with generals, captains, team leaders, etc etc. Just an insane amount of fun. That game also allowed you to go from tutorial to battle-ready, for free, within 2 days, whereas others, including Rise of Kingdoms, and especially some others like the Mafia ones, would take a week or longer for f2p players. Even the new EVE Galaxy Conquest game, which is also this style of 4x game, but set in space, is taking way too long to get to the good part. Sitting through 14 hour timers multiple times, running out of stamina every few hours, to finally get to where you're battling a clan, is too much. Most clans won't even get that far because most of their members will quit. If you get into a good clan that can survive the timers, you're in for a good time. That being said, it's never worth spending more than a couple of bucks on these games, and honestly, i'd just enjoy the experience once on one of them, and never look back. The game will die within a few weeks anyway, and then they have to create an entirely new version of it (with new IP) in order to gather more players.
EDIT: i think that's why these games are so successful, is that if you play them in a way that keeps you ahead of the curve, as in, you and your clan are somewhere on the leaderboards, at least the top 25-50%, then you could be in for a really fun time when the battling starts. But, you must sit through tons of timers and pointless mini-games until then. But i think many people, especially whales, have had a touch of this fun war stuff at some point with any one of hte hundreds of these clones out there, and that is what they're chasing: their next "fix" for this insane war-like gameplay, that really is quite unique to this genre of game. it's just a shame that because of all of the timers and cash-shop stuff, that most players will actually never experience it, likely ever. they'll quit when they see it takes 4 hours to upgrade their barracks.
Would you want to share something about that studies about the psychological manipulation in mobile games?
I was hooked to NFS No Limits, basically spent around 60-100$ over the course of a year for boosts and cars. The whole thing was an addictive gameplay loop without any meaning. I liked the idea of progressing but it was so minimal and slow after a couple of months without putting in real money, and when I purchased stuff it was basically 20$ packs for skipping 4 hours of grind. Most good cars were timed, you had to go in with the marketing train for any new vehicle/timed event to even get any rewards in the PVP. Then they removed the ability to grind for normal currency in such events just to make it frustrating without spending gold. I deleted the thing, never went back. It was a bummer because it reminded me of NFS MW
what's funny is that the age of empires mobile game for java old phones was legit an Age of Empires 2 demake w limited unit count and actually great gameplay that played like the pc version but on flip phones and it slapped! it was great! it's sad that this is a predatory cashgrab like so many other "strategy" mobile games out there
Oh man, I remember enjoying the hell out of the Java version of AoE 3; it's what got me interested in AoE in the first place!
It's such a shame, the average modern phones are so powerful they can run older pc games, like Max Payne, Company of Heroes, XCOM, etc, but the mobile game market is dominated by predatory, microtransaction-ridden mess. So much potential, wasted.
@@M.F.Hafizhan And so few Pay2Play games without in-game-purchases or ads or always-online. Mobile games market stinks.
There was a turn based age of empires 2 in a tablet I had, it even had some Japanese campaign if I recall, it was neat.
@Fernybun that might be the (3?)DS version of AOE2, ornlu the wolf covered some part of the campaign in his channel
Ah yeah, made by Glu iirc. I have one for AoE2, AoE3 and Asian Dynasties. Pretty cool.
They were told about the fake game ads using thier assests and instead of doing something productive they allowed this....😮💨
Exactly what I was thinking
Yeah.. this is exactly, 100% what I would have expected.. Age Of Micro Transactions: Fan Exploitation.
the real Age of Empires mobile was the mid 2000s java phone game
We meet again.
@@pandaprewmaster325 welcome back xD btw I literally called trump 2024 back in 2021.
@@BaDitO2 good to see u , yeah I was hoping none of the 2 parties would win just to piss off both dems and republicans but that sadly didn't come to be true , I guess trying to shoot ur opponent and making economy suck and all other crap makes opposition a better option to the average Americano
@@BaDitO2 well back in 2021 I wasn't much active in the server so I guess I missed your prophecy Heh
@ I posted it every other day 🤣
Age of Noob had his channel blocked for (rightfully) calling this game out for what it is: complete and utter crap. We lost a great channel that day.
He didn't given Viper also heavily critiziced it.
@@FloosWorld_AoE age of noob did get taken out of the age of empires insider program according to him because of his video
@@ConMan11225 Yes because he broke the NDA, not because for criticizing
@@FloosWorld_AoE there wasn't really anything out of ordinary in the video there so NDA breach was likely due to payout rant after not getting paid. They didn't have to kick him out but Microsoft chose to do it. NDA breach based on that video seems more of excuse than actual reason. What else was Age of Noob supposed to do? Say nothing and let you get ripped off? It is extremely scummy to contact to do sponsorship with creator who isn't eligible for payout of said sponsorship
@@Tempires He went about the payment infos in detail which was the part that was covered by an NDA.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend AoE Mobile - I also consider it awful.
This piece of garbage is the reason why Age of Noob lost his channel. A very informative and interesting channel lost his partnership with Microsoft because he told them that they are scambags straight at their faces. I guess even Microsoft cannot say no to that juicy Chinese money.
yeah and no one talked about it for some reason.
@@ConMan11225 Because they endanger their channel
@@ConMan11225 Shills got scared Microsoft was gonna take their partnership, just like Total War shills and Paradox Interactive shills
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568I didn't know what happened to his channel until I read the comments today. I'm very well remembered his video about aoem but I've checking it today and that video seems... gone? I'm always wondered why he is not uploading for long time and no particular announcement from the channel either. That's unfortunate, for him and for us all.
He lost it for breaching NDA, he fucked up. He was allowed to speak ill of the game, he wasn't allowed to leak certain information in the NDA clause, which he did.
the moment i see that upgrade take minutes to complete, and a button for instant build show up, i immediately uninstall the game. because i know, it's one of those. after you've seen it once, you've seen it all.
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Every time I see a mobile adaptation of an RTS series turn out to be a shameless moneygrubbing scheme, it makes me more appreciative of how faithful Feral's mobile version of Total War is.
Don't forget Worldbox.
I actually hope more mobile game adopted their system and improved it to make interesting rts and turn base civ game instead making another rise of king clone
@@mimorisenpai8540 Worldbox has zero relation to any RTS game, what is wrong with you?
@TechAndBeyond381 well I realized worldbox aren't rts but I hope more mobile game like worldbox
@@mimorisenpai8540worldbox falls under godsim. also that game gets boring pretty fast
Or the Teopico 3 also from Feral :)
To call it AOE is like calling Sonic the Hedgehog Fifa 25.
The fact that they have so much money and resources yet choose to make shovelware with deceptive marketing is pretty sad.
Agreed. What makes me even more sad is that they're not making their games like this just because they're dumb or evil. It's because games like this make them tons of money. Mobile games earn more than PC and all consoles combined. Someone is buying the shit out of them - but who are all those people? I've never met anyone like this in my whole life.
'We could have seen it coming' Pretty sure most people did on this one
One of my rules for life is to never have high expectations for mobile games. It's served me well so far.
You better never have ANY expectations for mobile games, especially f2p
@arquebusier1995 I mean I have had some fun with a couple of mobile games. But 1, I'm glad I've never spent any money on them, and 2, even at their best, it's just nowhere near as fun as computer games.
The fact I actually got TWO ADS for age of empires mobile while watching this video tells me everything I need to know about where the money and effort went
Honestly that's objectively funny
Mobile and RTS never mix.
NEVER.
Unless it's Total War
Wasn't the first C&C game decent?
And CoH
What?
C&C Rivals and every later mobile in C&C is garbage like everything from EA.
TW...only on tablets if we're talking mobile. But I still go with PC forever.
@@CommanderBohn I haven't played Rivals myself, just watched a bit of a retrospective on this channel. Sort of looked like a precursor to Clash Royale, but I don't even know which of those games came out first.
"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
:(
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
Ah yes, the same thing happened to warhammer isn't it
Who would've expected this to become another whale fishing frontend? These kinds of games exist purely for profit, and we have to deal with the mobile marked being 90% these.
I mean when I saw it I knew instantly it was a rehash of the typical mobile strategy games. Endless upgrading, and no gameplay whatsoever.
1:26 wouldn't say Age of Empires needed a redemption Arc. AoE3 wasn't a universally hated release like say C&C4. Think revival would be a better word. Except for Aoe1 DE. That was a cashgrab.
AoE3 was awful. We all went back to 2. Lol.
@MrJC1 Checknout r/aoe3. There is still a reasonably large amount of people that like it.
Yeah I could've worded that better. A revival, maybe
@@MrJC1 speak for yourself, I spent far more time with 3 than 2 once I had the ability to actually run it. I'll accept that the consensus is that 2 is a better game, the player numbers on DE are evidence enough, but it's not an awful game that nobody plays either.
@@MrJC1 No.
At 8:27, when the "skill selection" for the vampire survivor rip-off for C&C legions pops up, the symbol for the skill on the very right is literally ripped straight from warframe
I got an ad for this game at the end of this video... Not even kidding
incredible
As quick as I found out that it is made by Tencent, I knew it.. the ad itself is typical Chinese mobile gaming, with bombastic claims.. unrelated to its gameplay.
The only Chinese company I trust in making good mobile games is Mihoyo atp, maybe Netease too
Mobile players deserves better games honestly and not just straight up monetization scams. Throughout thousands of mobile games there's only a few that are actually good games.
Mobile legends
Pubg mobile
Cod mobile
Arena breakout
Apex legends (before it died)
Clash royale (before it became a p2w mess)
Clash of clans
Sure some may be games that were "copied" from PC games but they are like the big games among mobile gaming.
Y'all dont have to diss on mobile players, they're humans as well. They deserve a good game like pc players as well.
They did the very same with that Forza mobile game. I wouldn't trust any mobile game that MSFT is involved with. They slap their big franchises onto any cheap mobile game they can get their hands on, then try to make a profit using some of the worst MTX out there.
Okay, but you're an absolute fool for thinking this would be any different.
Why is that even a surprise? This is mobile gaming.
Unless it's a port from Feral Interactive, then it is pretty much guaranteed to suck on mobile.
yup
based feral
From what I did digging on my own research on it was the AoE: Mobile was a reskin of an already existing China game. It just got a AoE label slapped onto for the English Version.
I don't get how games like this keep working. I'd have thought all the whales would have been hooked by something already, and everyone else would be wise to the tricks. It's depressing that that doesn't seem to be the case.
"Tencent "
It's awful in every single way. And I can't believe how heavy this thing is on performance, heating generation and storage. One 4k character 3d display from this game is as heavy as ALL of aoe3's icons combined
It sucks that people are willingly playing this when significantly better options are available in this scam genre such as rise of kingdoms
This doesn't even look like age of empires at all
I remember when I was playing Ragnarok Online in my childhood, and I was playing like 10 000x servers, because nobody in their right mind thought to play in the real servers, the grind would take forever. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Well now we all got our answers who's got the time, the Chinese farmers have graduated from farming the rice fields to farming in video games.
...Like I don't get why Asian video RPG games have to be so freaking grindy.... You could probably spend human life playing that game and never surpassing someone's level who's born rich and had 10 000 dollars to burn in day 1. So nice for him to see himself crushing everyone else, like that rich a-hole in Diablo Immortal who was so over leveled to everyone else that he got banned in PvP.
Can we just collectively STOP funding these practices? At least put a cap of... even 120 dollars if you have to... but put a CAP. How is this extortion possible in a VIDEO GAME? This isn't a freaking slot machine that has potential to make a money back (granted it's worse odds than any other money making effort like investing on stock or just buying used good and reselling them).
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm back to playing AoE2:DE.
If you play mobile games, either NEVER pay for macro-transactions, or only play buy-once-own-forever mobile games with NO in-game transactions.
Actual "we live in a society" moment. Unbelievable
I kinda feel bad for watching this video with a big grin but this is exactly what i expected lol.
The really terrifying thing is that the mobile P2W market of games are really successful and are taking over actually well made games on PC and consoles. I can see one day all gaming will be this way and its all because of the whales out there supporting predatory monetisation. Normal gamers are going to get screwed.
I have a conspiracy that the Chinese have a flexible template for any genre and ready asset like the unity store...
I recgonize a lot of the element, asset and how the UI structured... I'm from asia so I play a lot of random game. I'm not sure what engine they use but usually it's the same-
You havent seen thousands of other mobile games if this is the worst predatory monetization youve ever seen
Mobile games are the ultimate least common denominator, they are games in name only, commodified and commercialized. If games like SC2 are Rembrandts and Monets, good indie is like the undiscovered local artist that makes it big, mobile "games" are those soulless simulated oil paintings hanging in chain family restaurants. They are the 30 second jingle made for a pharmaceutical advertisement. Not to sound elitist, but anything with no barrier to entry is likely to be garbage. I'm sure there are some decent puzzle games or minimally monetized time wasters, but the opportunity cost of not just shoveling out another gatcha slot machine is too much to stomach for companies, its a license to print money, who would turn that down?
The issue with this comment is the game is 100% free to play. You don't need to spend money. The funny thing is you trash the company making the game but you don't trash the people who spend 10k on the game the day it releases. From what I've seen the mobile game community praises whales so in reality yall are just making your games bad because you willing throw money at cash grab games then talk shit about games you can't beat in a few hours just because you spent money. 😂😂
Honestly idk what you were expecting
i was a fool
We all saw it coming. We didn't believe the try hard trailer. TheViper made a video "playing" it to warn against it. The community warned against it but some people still didn't believe it.
I'm sorry you had to go through that but thank you
Got an ad for a new game promising an "...authentic Age of Empires experience on mobile..." fed to me by UA-cam at the end of the video. Can't wait to check it out!
...Anyways...
Great video as always Zade. Looking forward to the next one. Seeing this travesty makes me wish all we were still complaining about AoE online and other browser based RTS games.
Nice review man 👍
This should be seen by the age of empires franchise , an absolute disgrace , as if they are not making enough money out of the e-sports , and now this , feels like they are begging for money , I wouldn't mind paying monthly 5$ just to keep playing the PC version as long as it's not pay to win , or even add some payed skins for different civilization , without hindering the game play . . . But this ??? They are putting to shame a whole industry , years of work , loads of investment . . . 😢
Take exemple of the PUBG experience : started as a PC game , the best of its time , then created a mobile version that gives you the same experience , and made money out of premium skins , while the game is still not pay to win .
So it's possible , they just need to listen to their fans and customers more !!
Good content bro , wish you all the best 💪
They clearly seen the Dungeon Keeper mobile and thought, "Hey, we can do that too."
"...a subsidiary of TenCent..."
It all becomes clear...
The fact I got an ad for this game before the video makes this extra spicy
Mobile games is the ultimate Brainrot of the gaming world. All the people gaming on mobile, completely oblivious to real video games simply dosn't know better, and it is these very people that are so immensly profitable for mobile game makers which is why they keep making the lowest of low effort games as long as these "mobile" gamers keep whaling for these type of games. Sadly.
When this game was announced i thought it would be like aoe1 where you could play the original version on a blackberry (circa 2002?) Idk why that game never went on mobile and idk why they can make a remake of those games for mobile
I gotta genuinely thank you because I have received ads for this "game" for a while and wasnt unsure if I should play it or not. Now I know what tragedy I avoided
Thank you! For saying it
"we could have seen this coming"
I was there when they announced the game on the anniversary stream, most people back then arleady assumed it would be a trashy cashgrab.
A game that makes Raid Shadowy Legends look like a tame and reasonably honest project? How low can the bar get?
I can't believe they turned a mobile game into a monetisation scam...
Now l don't know if this was a fever dream but I remember playing an actual AOE RTS on my Nokia N95 some 15 odd years ago. Please developers can we just have an actual RTS game for phones.
Can't say I'm surprised given both the developer and the general state of mobile 'gaming'.
It is a shame though. Imagine how much they could have actually done with one of RTS' most iconic and respected IPs. The squandered potential, more than anything else, is what hurts the most here.
I didn't believe it for a moment.
The worst part is, when developers drop the ball like this, it spoils any chance of getting what we actually wanted.
This crap is basically "Evony: The King's Return" with a AoE skin plastered on it.
5:14 Yeah I believe C&C Legions is the same. it was a game that changed names twice and put on a C&C skin on the first or second name change IIRC, then, the game still being in alpha, EA accepted to "license" C&C over to the devs (seeing as how they were gonna "steal" it anyway and China has no copyright laws) and I believe Level Infinite picked it up? Something like that. I didn't follow its development close enough to confirm, but this is what biased take I have from what I've heard and seen.
The funniest thing to me is that somehow, people are still surprised when mobile games turn out to be shit even after all these years and all the examples of these skinnerboxes.
"Age of Empires Mobile is Embarrassingly Bad"
Age of Empires Online: I'm finally vindicated! And it feels great!
Except Age of Empires Online is a good game, and an actual AoE game
@@xiuhcoatl4830 When it came out in 2011, the alleged reaction from AoE purists was that the game was a disservice and an insult to Age of Empires.
@@LuigianoMariano I kinda got it why back then, the game truly went P2W, people didn't like the artstyle either, however they fixed that and gave a fair balanced F2P model. Good thing that Project Celeste revived it.
It really bothering me that the smartphone technology nowadays can run a game that close to a PC mechanics, gameplay and graphics yet there's no proper RTS game released. It's like Mobile game devs always thinking about printing money as fast as possible with those microtransaction and live service throught their cheap knock-off games. Even the old mobile game Age of Empire java is way more better than these new knock-off AoE.
I remember COD mobile and people telling me it is just like playing on console. It didn't feel that way to me.
I don't even like the feel of RTS on console. An RTS on mobile just won't work.
They do work
Northgard should be pretty good, considering the inherent limitations.
Age of Empires mobile is not an RTS. It's not a question of the controls not translating but them deciding to go for a no fun just pure monetization formula.
The ads were the worst thing about this game. Disrespecting the players of AoE 2 and claiming to be fans of it at the same time were a massive red flag.
Saw Age of empires mobile, went to download it. Unavailable in ur country, I became sad. Came to utube to check whats it like, glad its not available in my country.
I immediately recognized the fake strategy "Rise of Kingdoms" UI.
Mobile strategy is an oxymoron. These games have 0 strategy in them. Heck, not even as basic as Clash of Clans.
I think we all saw this coming unfortunately
look this game up ' ART OF WAR 3 GLOBAL CONFLICT'. A mobile rts game consisting of two different factions with their own unique playstyle. yes, the game is not perfect , but you do not have to be a pay to win dud to enjoy it. though you can spend money to boost your upgrades which would make your units stronger and yadayada. pls check it out if since it if one of the better rts games on mobile compared to other trash. one more thing, the game has good attention from the devs so it recieves updates regularly, like new units(heroes), etc.
After years of ads of AoE clones, the moment I saw the AoE Mobile ad, I had bet Microsoft soft had bought out one of these "studios". Turns out I was correct.
I played around 5 minutes, and that was enough for me to realize this was just another generic mobile game.
Apart from the predatory MTX "Art of War 3" provides actual RTS gameplay on mobile. I don't play it much anymore though because if I've got the time for an RTS match I may as well use my computer.
Kingdom game in phone = Clash of Kings
Sad part is the unit and building assets actually look quite good
Thanks you for an honest review!! I have been wanting a good age of of empires that would be true to the game!! Sad to see that they won't even if we have higher technology!!
I remember seeing an ad for this game that had a roman legionary doing some over the top fighting animation while holding a pilum. They called it a "lancer"... That told me enough about how much (or rather little) thought and care was put into this game.
Saw this coming when it was first announced. Surprised so many people got sucked in…
The fact that you can get an ad for the mobile version in this video is funny.
I had to bblock like 8 ads about this game, it only made me hate it, i even started to hate the original age of empire by just how annoying their ads are.
@8:27 yes, the only thing age of empires mobile is missing are dragons; lots of fantasy themed games throw in dragon shit to hatch eggs and raise dragons, every mechanic is added as something to monetize. It also means they can show off gameplay footage that isnt as misleading because its IN THE GAME its just not a big part of it.
I'm playing it, but you nailed it. Fortunately for me, I knew this game would be a revamp of the original Clash of Clans, just like every other "strategy" game on mobile.
should have made age of empires ds definitive and age of mythology ds retold instead
Have you ever heard or played the Nintendo DS Age of Empires version? I actually enjoyed it so much as a kid and i think a similar concept (it was round based) would totally work on phones today.
its really sad, hyped finally play with my friend anywhere anytime without needing a computer or laptop. ended up uninstalling faster than ever
Anyone else remember Age of Empires 2 Mobile from 2005? They basically took AoE2's formula, gave it DUNE II graphics, and put it on the Nokia.
Like how could this even be good. You need arround 25 shortcuts to play aoe2 properly. Impossible on a phone.
I literally play zero mobile games, because all of them have 3,355 different "stores" in the UI, everything from barns, to chests, to lockers, to storage, to pockets, etc. and 5,000 different type of in-game currencies, just so you have 5,000 different ways to pay them money.
AoE games on the PC are a blast the last few years, we can't have it all guys
Thanks for the recommendation, im downloading now I cant wait to spend some cash!🤑
Was excited 3 seconds after the announcement....saw the marketing... and pretty much expected everything you said
im truly heartbroken when finding out they made the legend of RTS of all time into a moneygrubbing game like Rise of Kingdoms...., at least Total war series and Company of heroes didnt destroy my expectation of them
I got the game, started it, then quit and deleted it 3 minutes into the cutscene. I knew something was wrong and this video proved me right.
It's a mobile game, what did you expect?
You can make a good one, but we already knew it would be made by Tencent so yeah I didn’t have any hope
Whenever I am interested in a game with online multiplayer mechanics, the first thing I do is check who developed the game and what country they are from. If it’s China especially China that’s automatically a big NO for me.
Thank you for telling what i was feeling inside my heart the anger that i feel is just so much
The scammers are controlling the Mobile game industry