On The Hollywood Agenda (Pt. 3) | Mark Duplass | POLITICS | Rubin Report
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Mark Duplass (Actor, Producer, Director) about getting your morals from Hollywood and much more.
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I consider myself a "conservatarian" and this may be my favorite Rubin Report thus far. You guys are fantastic.
GuessWho I'm gonna steal that word. It works too well
Thank you. This really was one of my favorites because I think it'll help leads us to some answers...
@Rubin Report I definitely agree. We've been talking about the need to come together. Now we're taking action \m/
Charles Cooke coined it I think... conservatarian.com/
Would love to see you talk to Charles Cooke!!!
Dave Rubin might be the best political interviewer working today.
It is known.
Stefan Molyneux is the best because Dave gets a little trivial sometimes. Stefan Molyneux keeps it on topic, and deep. Rubin is still very good though.
Duplass was excellent in this. I don't care what side you're on, if you can't see that he's taking a reasonable approach to politics here, then you're too deeply entrenched in whatever ideology you subscribe to.
as a veteran who is disassociated with politics, thank you. thank you very much.
Favorite quote regarding your beginning point about the distinction between the existence of a good/service and government funding:
“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law
Was pleasantly surprised to see Mark being such a reasonable Hollywood guy. Love his work
America has spent trillions on welfare in the last 40 years...the poverty rate has stayed consistent, it has not improved.
The One We should ship the poor to Mexico.
Race realism is a REAL thing.. Don't be scared to take that Red Pill. Maybe there is a correlation between race and IQ, hence why some civilizations or lack thereof, do significantly worse than white Western Countries.
IQ is not improved with money.
+The One
You want your mind blown? See Stefan Molyneux's 34 min video on IQ w Dr. Charles Murray. You will understand exactly WHY the "oppressed" ppl perpetually need a scapegoat.
His heart is in the right place and he's making an effort. I'll take it.
I like Mark Duplass. He's probably the only Hollywood guy I know who actually gives the time to have an actual sensible conversation with people who have different political views.
To answer the pipeline question: Pipelines are far safer (and faster) than transporting oil by rail, which is how a large amount is transported now. Remember then an oil train blew up a town in 2013? (Lac-Megantic, Quebec)
Already one of my favorite film makers and actors, so it's great to see he is also so genuine about politics. Great interview
Spending never gets cut because the people who loose their funding will really, really hate you while the average tax payer just gets 5$ a year back and doesn't care.
Optimus Prime 2020
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Dave the engagement here is truly awesome. This is the actual conversation style you excel at. Please voice your positions with your guests, in depth more often.
Without regard to what political views you hold, I wish that people (especially the internet warriors) would have even a fraction of the self-reflection that Mr. Duplass is displaying.
Excellent Interview Dave.
The pipelines facilitate growth & maintenance of the whole oilfield sector in places like ND. They are safer, cleaner, & cheaper than shipments by truck or rail.
The only reason to not support pipelines is if you are anti-oil & gas. However, there is no current implementable alternative, so it just means importing oil & gas, not elimination. And who thinks that the middle east or Venezuela care more about the environment than we do?
The question therefore is: Why oppose pipelines?
Voluntarily sharing your profit with your team isn't communism.
These are the best interviews, and most revealing IMO. People like Mark, that don't make their money doing political commentary, but are entertaining and thoughtful about both sides of issues, and are secure enough in their career to not worry about backlash. I agree politically with guys like Prager, but enjoyed this interview more because I already know what Prager is going to say. I think Mike Rowe would be a good guest.
Been binge watching the show lately,trying to catch up .Dave always seems to have an incredibly diverse mixture of guest and opinion on his show.And one thing I love about him is he does not get in the way of his guest so you always get a pretty good sense of who the guest is because he has that skill where he knows not to interrupt.
"Allow me to refill your water." Love you Rubin.
Dave: Meals on Wheels is handled by the State. The complaint from The NYT and others, is that "some" states may be choosing to cut funding for the program in an effort to redirect the funds to other programs that they believe are more efficient.
*Not trying to sound like an ass, just wanted to try and clear up any misunderstandings.
I learned today that Ron Livingston and Mark Duplass are not the same person ...
Dave, I love your show because it's the exact opposite of what the vast majority of politics & political interaction is nowadays. It's great fresh air, love how you listen to others and no one yells at each other. I would consider myself a conservatarian (slightly right of center), but mostly a live and let live kind of guy. Thank you for helping to shape my views and challenge me when I needed to be challenged!
"I'd rather have a non-efficient thing than a non-entity". while I respect this guy for expanding his horizons very reasonably and accepting that he doesn't know everything (which I definitely do not either), I believe that having nothing is much better than having something that is bad, but feels good and provides a sense of comfort, like the government does. it just allows people to sit back and not become innovative because there's nothing really motivating them.
This has to be one of my favorite interviews you have done and I am sure you know you have done quite a few great ones. I have been a fan of Mark's character in the League but never put any thought towards what he would be like in the real world. I will definitely be sharing this with a lot of friends/acquaintances who are on the left who refuse to listen or even acknowledge the other side. I sit in the middle and have always found it insane that the two sides can not get together on anything and seeing that a big name is working hard to push both sides together in order to do some good!
Mark Duplass seems more reasonable and sincere than most people people left of center but I've got to comment on that agenda stuff. I have worked in hospitality for years during film festivals. I have driven producers, carried musician's instruments and helped actors overnight packages. Naturally I have overheard MANY of their private conversations while they're on the phone or talking with other guests. Let me put this as objectively as I can; the idea that there is NO agenda by either indie or big studio Hollywood is 100% false. Whether he just doesn't see it that way or is lying on purpose is up to his conscience.
Thanks for the insights. I once considered myself a film buff - learned about the different film festivals and the award circuits that entail them, learned about different studios (big and small), and learned about film budgets. I then learned about how actors are chosen, the politics within selection and how one becomes "established". There's a lot of interesting things in the movie/tv industry because, after all, it's a business. I also learned, as my politics slowly went from left to right, that Hollywood - big tent budget or not - leans hard to he left and is secular.
Most of the eleemosynary organisations began when there was no, or barely, an income tax. People give and keep the costs low.
Long time lurker first time commenting. Good on you Dave. These conversations are helping. As a one time liberal Democrat turned Independent libertarian, I'm heartened. And Mr. Duplass, I want to see you talk with Mr. Rubin in a year. I suspect that your cynicism will spread from the individual and "trickle down economics" to the State. We're all just folks.
I LOVE that Rubin pointed to Ben Shapiro as a great conservative and I agree with Rubin 100% on this point, I too follow Ben Shapiro and think he is a great example of an honest conservative who will call out both sides when needed and yet still hold constitutional conservative principles, the fact that Rubin also sees this makes me have an even higher amount of Respect for Rubin, who I already like, I am a constitutional conservative so I do not agree with Rubin on everything but I still love his honest opinions and the fact that he too calls out both sides Like Ben Shapiro. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK YOU DO RUBIN, WE LOVE YOU BRO!
Thanks Dave and Mark! I am now a fan of Mark. I thought all my left friends but two have lost their minds but I learned a few ways through "finding connections" to approach them again. I've been on a 3 month break from Social Media and plan to go back on May 5th. I don't feel so nervous about it now.
Yeah, mhmm, yeah, right, mhmm, yep, yeah? yeah, 100%, yep, yes, exactly
Truly inspiring words from Mr Duplass
i totally agree with dave on the trump thing. the fact that everyone freaks out over him has me constantly say "c'mon it isn't that bad"
Mark's claim that the ONLY agenda driven productions he sees are coming from religious groups goes far beyond bias, it's a delusion. Simply put, it's
false. How many movies are even made from religious groups??? If he can't distinguish A film's narrative from the COLLECTIVE narrative that actually makes sense given his cleary broken perception of popular messaging. If he totes himself around as someone who can see both sides, he needs to take a vacation. Do people really expect a medal for simply aknowledging viewpoints outside of their microcosm? If so that adds to any layman's distain for the inflated value of hollywood. What's fair is fair, and it's impossible to bullshit forever.
Point me to the agenda driven movies like gods not dead. Where the agenda is the base of the whole story. Obviously Hollywood is liberal and that viewpoint will show through what ever they create. Art is very subjective, and most movies will mirror the people that made it.
Libtards movies everywhere
Joseph Kowalski I'm sorry but why does everything have to be political. Why does everything need to be liberal vs conservative.
3:20 I really liked this moment for some reason
Its so sad to see people who are surrounded by people who all believe the same thing and think they're "educated". Speak to anyone right of center in middle America who see's their state, culture, race, gender, religion, education, lifestyle, and values all consistently insulted on a daily basis by TV shows, movies, celebrities, and even "liberal" friends on social media. They have much more open-mindedness, education, and conviction because they're constantly having to stay informed to defend themselves from the relentless hatred thrown in their faces all the time.
Conservative here, enjoyed the conversation.
Man this comments section! By far one of the most reasonable guests and he's getting the outrage from the left and the right.
Also cracks me up every time someone is pissed they didn't source every other word an hour laid back verbal interview.
I swear some people in Hollywood think everyone who lives outside their world lives in these tiny, unenlightened bubbles. We all know films have agendas, and they're based on the story the maker is trying to tell. That doesn't bother me when it's simply about showing a different perspective or life style. Happy to watch a story about someone who's life is different than mine and hopefully learn something.
What I don't like is when there is this attitude that "I'm going to enlighten you" because I am more worldly, have more wisdom, and my opinions are better than yours. The attitude that this life style is the correct life style or this person's story is better than someone else's or this person's struggle is more noble. Everyone has struggles and acting like there is this hierarchy of who's is worse or harder drives me crazy!
On the budget cuts, our SECDEF, James Mattis had an interview about defense spending and talked about when they do cuts in defense they cut everything equally across the board. He made a point that when the cuts come, nobody looks intently at when programs they really don't need and that aren't effective. I think that outlook can be applied to all government spending. I think we need to look at which programs really are just staying afloat and not doing anything, cutting those programs and applying any loose change to bolster other effective programs.
However, on the flip side, he stated that there is an entanglement of red tape that prevents these programs from being cut completely and that the red tape itself is wasteful spending.
After spending four years in the military I feel I have the same perspective as Mattis and that the wasteful spending is a hindrance to our tax dollars being effectively utilized and cuts need to be made in an appropriate fashion.
Hollywood is about making money and doesnt have a political agenda, you guys are so funny!!!
Is is about making money but it's also bankrolled since where do all the indie films get their budget!
When he was thinking of a conservative, in my head I'm like "better say Ben, better say Ben"
This is an interesting topic to me. I used to study film and switched to construction because I didn't feel comfortable or safe with investing an education into film production.
I know that arts degrees are completely worthless, and that was a big problem for me, but the one thing that pushed me out of "following my passion" was that my professors were trying to push their hard left politics onto us, and that my conservative views were very much not welcome in the classroom or the small parts of the industry I got to interact with.
I can't believe Mark when he says that there is no agenda in Hollywood when the people meant to help us get there are trying to tell us what to think in a course about editing.
I'd hate to make the accusation that he's sheltered because it's not entirely fair since he does reach out, but I had to change my entire life direction because the amount of bias and vitriol I saw in the industry. I didn't feel safe with that kind of life choice.
The federal funding for defense should be higher than the arts...The states formed the federal government for the purpose of national defense and managing interstate commerce.
One way to think about it...
California probably has a much higher interest in the arts, as opposed to a state like Texas. Why would the citizens of Texas be on the hook for funding it?
I don't think anyone is arguing the government should spend more on the Arts then they do on defense. But the question is should the government be spending so much on defense, and if we have so much waist in the military budget why focus on cutting the arts when there are much bigger fish to fry.
Levi agree
Federal funding for defense is something like 600 Billion. Spending for the arts is a small fraction of the 100 Billion spent on education. So the state already spends 100's of times more on defense than the arts. In my opinion the real question should be, why is the government funding the arts at any level. I see no purpose in the government giving money to organizations that are meant to provide cultural/spiritual/religious experiences.
No one Important: I agree. The Federal government should spend $0.00 on the arts...along with several other programs/departments, but I'll leave those alone for now. If a state wants to fund the arts, like California, they are more than welcome to do so if the CA voters want. Their issue is that without the Federal government's funding for the arts, they can't afford to do so without cutting some of the other waste.
As far as the costs go, as long as taxes aren't raised to fund national defense, it really doesn't matter to me. In fact, if we could get the Federal government out of nonsense that they have no need or Constitutional reason to be in, and allow the states (the closest to the people) choose how to best deal with the needs of their citizens, the cost to the taxpayers would drop significantly.
- It is truly sad to see how people are so conditioned to see the Federal government as the boss. Nobody seems to remember that the states are sovereign...basically separate countries that are a part of this 50 member union, and each contributes dues that are to be used ONLY for the NEEDS of the collective. This is where "Progressives" came in. They believed that the collective was the most important, and the right of the individual (state/person) should be irrelevant if it slowed their idea progress.
"The only people I know who are truly making really agenda-driven films that don't show any fairness in the antagonists. . .the only films that I have seen that truly do that are coming from the extreme religious sector of filmmaking."
Well then, you haven't seen Lions for Lambs, Redacted, Rendition, W, Frost/Nixon, Good Night and Good Luck, Fahrenheit 9/11, Platoon, Thank You for Smoking, Truth, anything by Aaron Sorkin, Oliver Stone or Michael Moore, for that matter.
Yes the religious right makes horrible movies with straw man villains (God Is Not Dead, etc), but let's compare the sheer number as well as distribution of those niche films with the anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-military films Hollywood churns out every year. If you're not aware of agenda-driven films, either you don't watch all that many films or you can't see the agenda because you agree with it.
Mark probably won't see this but thank you for the interview. I came in wonder how a leftist could sit down and just discuss and I came out seeing another cool role model. Again thank you
Peach Fuzz makes some very good points.
OUTSTANDING INTERVIEW!
Dave, if you're going to say what Trump did wasn't so bad you should be a little more clear on what he did.
I love how Rubin tried to get him to bash Hollywood, but unlike his other guests he wouldn't take the bait
One of my favorite guests in a long time
You mention black and gay as attributes that need normalization - why not go really progressive and have a conservative protagonist!
The biggest problem of all is relying on anything or anyone, even relying on the internet for research or simply pure entertainment. All the moments we spend on youtube, google, whatever, is slowly (or quickly) robbing us of our own organic creativity. Sure, we're inspired by the things we see but think back to a younger time, when you didn't have so many options as one does these days. You were most likely healthier and more naturally aware of your surroundings and the things you said were't tainted because you weren't inclined to get all your information from 17, 000 different media sources. Most of us don't realize how spoiled we really are. It's probably more of a burden than a blessing that we are allowed so much immediate stimulation. What happened to the artists we used to be? "Comfort doesn't breed creativity." - Chrissie Hynde
'I'd rather have a non-efficient thing than a nonentity'. That sounds really smart, bud.
I know it's an old video, but I can tell you that my wife and I, as Catholic conservative Republicans, would certainly give more to charity if we had less taken out in taxes.
Already with the current tax rates, we're giving more than $1,800 a year to Catholic Charites, the Red Cross, and the Salvation Army.
And we are not at all a six figure family.
Great interview, I'd love to see Mark come back in a little while, maybe do a double-interviewee segment with someone else that doesn't share the same views as him for a broader discussion.
Give with your own money Mark. We don't want to fund everyone elses burden. Suffering is part of a full life.
I discovered this guy in a little indie movie called Safety Not Guaranteed. Highly recommend it.
... giving as an individual is better than expecting everyone else to give...
This was absolutely terrific!
Meals on Wheels got govt. funding cut, and then received many times more funding in donations. It remains to be seen if it will continue, but we do have a solid start.
austin is gunna be on!!!!!! fuck yea
Very good interview, I do have a suggestion for Mark, maybe meals on wheels should be his next charity effort, clearly it is a concern and I think both sides could easily get behind that cause.
"ppl call me baby killer cause I support abortion clinics" aaaaaand? Is that supposed to be the counter equivalent of being called a rascist because I listen to facts? That's a bit of a stretch.
If anyone is interested in knowing exactly who gives more to charity in the private sector, check out a book called "Who Cares". People DO give in the absence of public charities and entitlements.
Dave, you should interview Brett Easton Ellis. He has a podcast that discusses art criticism and how social justice culture is regressing the progress of art. His latest episode was about the liberal meltdown to Trump winning.
A lot of art has the infrastructure to exist because of Federal Money. It allows art that is historically significant such as classical and Jazz music to have scholarships, teaching groups that tour the country and bring it to kids and families who otherwise would not have the opportunity. Maybe Dave needs to bring on someone who knows everything about that and why it's valuable.
Mark Duplass - can you comment on the book Primetime Propoganda? it seems to describe an agenda right from Directors and Producers' mouths...
Funding to Meals On Wheels has not been cut. The Funding program that was cut, only gave a very small amount to good things like MOW. The program was fraught, with corruption, and monies were going to things that did not help the needy, which was the purpose of the program initially. Monies were used to build things like marinas, art museums, auditoriums and such. Those are nice things for communities, but don't do anything for the needy.
What you need to do is create specific charities with specific agendas. It's all about creating the right charity
And the unsung hero in this interview is..... The Therapist.
Meals on wheels--here is my perspective:
It's the evidence of a problem, and funding it soothes it but doesn't solve it. Why do we have senior citizens unable to feed themselves? Is it an issue of money/poverty or disability? If it's disability, then we need manpower such as assisted living. If it's poverty, then we have to know what caused that poverty to fix it, e.g., is it because of low savings rates, too high of inflation, people outliving their expectations, bad info/planning on retirement, irresponsibility?
Funding or not funding it is the band aid on the bullet wound.
when it comes to this I think since Mark is new at this and he hasn't really noticed it yet this is a blind spot for him
after he went on Steven Crowder's show I have huge respect for him but when it comes to the Left-wing bias in Hollywood it's a blind spot for him
I really do hope he gets Van Jones.
a great talk with some awesome content. Keep up the good work Dave.
I think I end up following almost everyone you interview.
Asking professional liars to be honest is a fools errand.
Trump said that the meals on wheels isn't being stopped, the monies are being put under a different budget area. I also worked with meals on wheels and we got a lot of donations from local companies, corporations, grocery stores, and the people that work in the kitchens and delivering do not make a salary.
Watch this video where Dave Rubin appears on the Duplass Report.
The show became Dave explaining his opinions to guests so gradually I didn't even notice!
I was with this dude for parts 1 and 2, as he seemed really rational and reasonable for a dude on the "left". He lost me here though. No leftist agenda in Hollywood? Please. You don't think Moonlight was actually the best picture of the year, do you? He mentions films like God is Not Dead (and as an Atheist and a movie fanatic, I can safely sat that movie is effing awful) coming from the right as being the only movies with legit agendas, but doesn't even mention a guy like Michael Moore? How is he ANY different?
lol meals on wheels issue- govt only contributed ~5%, the rest was charity. Now that Trump cut that, private donations went up bigly and meals on wheels has way more money to serve the people. Sooo Meals on Wheels won.
The Meals on Wheels example IS an example of 'just trimming pennies,' its 3% of the program!
It doesnt even have any impact on the food delivery side, its a housing subsidy.
I guess Duplass hasn't seen Sausage Party. As silly and funny as it is, it's completely agenda driven.
There is a way of knowing if private charity will fill the role of government, with respect to Meals on Wheels. It's called "crowding out". It's a whole branch of Economics that studies the effect of government involvement in a market. Additionally, there is myriad data that shows private charity was far more robust before government provided the level of welfare they do today.
Building oil/gas pipelines make sense because your providing the capacity for tens of millions of people to access electricity & gas up their cars. It's not about the jobs at all.
I found this interview one of the most boring Dave has done because the interviewee, Mark Duplass, is himself a boring individual. He is self absorbed and shallow and simply doesn't get the big picture... at all.
Nothing happens, nothing GREAT happens, without risk.
Duplass should watch old Firing Line shows where WFB brought total liberals (of the time) -- which were so gentlemanly and smart. He would be educated -- and he would enjoy.
That's not Communism, Mark. It's actually perfect Capitalism as it was 100% voluntary on your part.
I like Mark Duplas.
This guy's great, wonderful stuff.
I just wonder, when they're speaking on charities... I think the biggest indicator would be how much is donated when there isnt a tax incentive.
You certainly get the guests rubin.
Awesome stuff. Disagree about Hollywood's leaning. Keep it up - BOTH of you!
Dave, for the love of The Spaghetti Monster, PLEASE get Ron Paul on your show !!!
God. Not Spaghetti Monster.
The real takeaway I hope people get from this interview is that Hollywood is a business. So! If there's a movie or TV show that you think is about to come out and push an agenda, curb your curiosity and refrain from watching it. It's that simple. I too, used to get irked by these underhanded in your face messages. But then I just took responsibility for what I chose to watch and contribute to. Good example. While I'm sure that recent Spider-Man movie was awesome, I wish they'd stop making remakes and super hero movies. So I'm no longer going to the movies to watch them. If you continue to go to the movies and rent them, you're only contributing dollars to their decision making process, by which they will green-light yet another remake or superhero movie. So don't blame the studios, blame the fans essentially.
we have bundled a lot into defence spending that isn't really defence spending, because its easier to get through the process. for example the army corps of engineers does a lot of infrastructure projects. giving them more money might be the most effective way to
get infrastructure upgrades. similar thing with darpa, you want science/technology funding by the government a lot of it has moved to darpa you know the organization responsible for the precursors to the internet, and also were the new shuttle project got sent. the defence sector seems to be where republicans will be fine sending socialist programs.
One of my favorite interviews so far. Very, very, very well done.
Isnt a gay rally supposed to be a protest? isnt it supposed to mean that gays are here despite our society trying to put them down, how does cancelling the gay parade supposed to help anybody? wouldnt that make the conservatives happy because thats what they wanted!
I wholly respect this guy for being willing to connect with people he disagrees with but I advise him to take a look at the charitable giving statistics of America currently and in the past
I knew he was going to say Ben lmao